I mean its at least got an entirely new storyline.

8/31/2007 12:16:45 PM

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"No, but I didn't pay $600 to spend $60 on an 85."

LOL THE PS3 IS SO EXPENSIVE!!!!

I mean, if you're gonna bash me for being unoriginal......

8/31/2007 12:21:46 PM

I'm not bashing you for being unoriginal, I'm bashing you for being a tool.

8/31/2007 12:36:22 PM

And when all else fails, we resort to name calling. How can you even pretend you're anything but a troll in this thread?

8/31/2007 12:42:38 PM

That's not namecalling. It's an accurate assessment of what you saying "Halo 2.5" would have been.

Like all those kids who run around going "M$".

8/31/2007 12:51:40 PM

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"Not surprising, given how difficult it must be for you to get laid, Skipper."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

WHAT A GREAT RESPONSE

AND YOU BITCH AT ME FOR TROLLING

8/31/2007 1:17:02 PM

man, you guys are really pathetic.

8/31/2007 1:34:13 PM

so weak. Console war bullshit goes in this thread:

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=490610

[Edited on August 31, 2007 at 1:51 PM. Reason : .]

8/31/2007 1:50:27 PM

You know its pretty funny that you guys are getting worked up about mediocre games.

I suppose you have to justify 600$ to yourself and thats why you're so rabid in your defense.

8/31/2007 2:19:22 PM

lol. OK now even I please ask that we get back to our regular programming. I've heard and participated in this mud war before, and we're all over it.

So, I'm really pissed at circuit city for not carrying retail warhawk. doesnt make sense, i mean - ive got tons of credit there to be used and I can't even pick it up. They dont have metroid prime 3 either. But both are all over the place at Breast Buy. Damn.

8/31/2007 2:26:09 PM

^ Wonder why they're not carrying it? Both of those games seem to be selling pretty well.

8/31/2007 2:30:24 PM

The only people here who are getting "worked up about mediocre games" are the trolls who don't own a PS3. The rest of us are either playing Warhawk or looking forward to the next round of excellent looking titles.

Also, if you can name me a single other piece of A/V equipment, or even a collection of devices, that offers all the functionality of a PS3 for under or even close to $600, please do so. And don't you own a $600 cell phone?

8/31/2007 2:31:28 PM

Iskander I love how you keep throwing the phone comparison as if its remotely, remotely similar.

I use my cellphone an order of magnitude more then you use your ps3. Not a percentage, not a factor of, but an order of magnitude. I've built cell phones. I've programmed cell phones. I've had access to the shit faggots like you make threads about and I still bought an iPhone. If you had any sense, which you don't, but if you did you would have taken your 500$ and copied me by buying a device as useful as an iPhone. Instead, you're locked in here defending yourself -poorly- because of a game like Warhawk. WARHAWK. FUCKING WARHAWK.

"BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE 3G GG LAWL!"

EDGE is plenty enough to post wicked burns like this on you from the shitter at work.

[Edited on August 31, 2007 at 3:01 PM. Reason : kek]

8/31/2007 3:00:32 PM

dude, ya'll arguing are faggots

on topic, i dont think im getting anything until ut3

8/31/2007 3:06:20 PM

^^You know I have a cell phone that I use a lot too. The only difference is mine was free, and 99.9% of the time it's going to serve the same exact purpose as yours. Not that I don't want an iPhone, I do once it has a larger storage and 3G. I'm not criticizing your purchase of an iPhone, I'm pointing out how silly it is that you're bashing the PS3, while you own the cell phone equivalent to it.

This thing was one of the easiest purchases I ever made. I needed an upscaling DVD player, check. I needed something to play HD movies on my 1080p HDTV, check. I needed something to stream music and movies to my HT system, check. On top of that, I knew I would eventually be playing MGS4 and FFXIII on it. If no other game ever got released for the PS3, I would still be happy with it because of those 2 and all the A/V functionality.

However, I've been pleasantly surprised by the quality of the releases the PS3 has seen thus far, not even a year after it's release. Is there something offensive to you about me enjoying playing a game on my console? No other console, not even the 360, has seen a game as fun as Warhawk less than a year after it was released (maybe that's why you're so pissed off). But go ahead, continue bashing a game you've never played and talking about your job, like anyone here gives a shit. Everything you know, I can find out by reading arstechnica.com twice a day.

^Why not? Someone is gonna come here and start posting expletives like an immature baby (see SandSanta) regardless of whether I respond to their trolls or not. I may as well try to keep it under control. I contribute more quality information to this thread than anyone else here.

[Edited on August 31, 2007 at 3:27 PM. Reason : V happy?]

8/31/2007 3:18:02 PM

someone's having some serious delusions of grandeur in this thread.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that anyone approaching 20k posts on tdub hasn't produced anything significant.

[Edited on August 31, 2007 at 3:21 PM. Reason : d]

[Edited on August 31, 2007 at 3:22 PM. Reason : wrong count]

8/31/2007 3:20:01 PM

I'm actually not going to read any of that because I've read other forums and by definition everything you're going to argue ever.

Instead I'm going to post pictures of clowns because they're funny and more intelligent then this thread.



[Edited on August 31, 2007 at 3:21 PM. Reason : To iskander. With Love <3]

8/31/2007 3:21:05 PM

that's funny cuz that's the same image that pops in my head when I read one of your posts.

8/31/2007 3:28:26 PM

With that, I'm going to post a picture of my kitty.



<3 engin.

[Edited on August 31, 2007 at 3:29 PM. Reason : :]

8/31/2007 3:29:10 PM

TIGER CUB

ITS A TIGER CUB

8/31/2007 3:37:59 PM

KITTY!!!!!!

8/31/2007 4:09:24 PM

Whoa, someone on a forum figured out that if you plug a controller that doesn't support Sixaxis into the PS3 (since you can use damn near any USB controller with it), Lair will default to analog stick controls. People are trying it out and many seem to prefer it that way, even though there are certain moves you can't do.

8/31/2007 4:22:51 PM

like the 180 which i hear is crucial...i still wont buy it, its not worth it it seems, rent it and be done with it

8/31/2007 4:53:32 PM

^^interesting...


More and more, I"m getting the feeling that Sony forced Factor 5 to make this THE SIXAXIS GAME. It just doesn't make sense that they wouldn't include analog control. If they did, everyone would probably just turn off sixaxis right away. Let's face it, so far the sixaxis is pretty awful. I have yet to see a game where it's well used, and most of the time it's actually a nuisance (accidentally jumping pre-snap in madden, doing the 'wave' in blast factor unintentionally, etc etc).

I'll bet they wanted to include analog but were denied by Sony, so this is their way of sticking it to the man. Good for them.

8/31/2007 5:18:26 PM

That's extremely possible. At one point Lair was described as being "Ken Kutaragi's baby". However, if they really wanted to force Sixaxis, they could have done it with Warhawk. I personally prefer the pro flight option with analog sticks, but there are plenty of people on the forums who say Sixaxis is best for piloting the Warhawks At the end of the day, they left it up to the player to decide, which is how it should have been for Lair.

8/31/2007 5:25:38 PM

Quote :

"The only people here who are getting "worked up about mediocre games" are the trolls who don't own a PS3. The rest of us are either playing Warhawk or looking forward to the next round of excellent looking titles. "

Do you flip a coin to decide what game to play?

I guess heads is warhawk, and tails is warhawk

8/31/2007 7:01:16 PM

Just noticed a lot of good shit hit PSN this week

demos for NASCAR, Tiger Woods, and All Pro Football

Tekken 5 now has online mode (for a price)

Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo HD Remix for sale now

8/31/2007 7:13:58 PM

Kinda pisses me off that they're charging $10 extra for Tekken 5 online. I mean, I already spent $20 and online should've been included IMO. So now you're paying $30 for a game that's easily 3 years old.

On the other side of the coin, I can see that they went above just porting the title (online code, leaderboards, etc etc). So I guess at least they earned their $10.



In other news: Gamespot just trashed Lair in their review as well. Hmmmm... things are starting to look bleak. Good thing I can probably trade mine in at EB and get around what I paid for it. Or hell, maybe it'll be a good game, right ??

9/1/2007 11:38:23 AM

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"I'll bet they wanted to include analog but were denied by Sony, so this is their way of sticking it to the man. Good for them."

I seriously doubt that they made a bad game on purpose just to stick it to Sony. However, I do think it is entirely possible that Sony forced them into doing it. From what I have heard from developers, most pride themselves in what they make. I also think it is entirely possible that they were still working on making Sixaxis better, but Sony gave them a set in stone release date that they were not allowed to break.

9/1/2007 1:34:55 PM

I think it's safe to say that Factor 5 won't be getting any more games published by SCEA. No bones about, this is a huge embarrassment for Sony and Factor 5. This game was supposed to be a lot better than this. I dunno, I enjoyed the Rogue Squadron games, and they were always technically sound games. I guess the Star Wars franchise made the gameplay seem better than it actually was. I'm sure Nintendo will take them back with open arms, god knows they need all the 3rd party developers they can get.

9/1/2007 1:44:26 PM

YO'z - i just picked up Warhawk and Metroid Prime 3 at Circuit City. This jabra earpiece is kinda awesome. really small. Those two and Bioshock means i've got one siggy game from each console i'll be playing like hotcakes.

Everyone add me on PSN if you can - "kainen1".

9/1/2007 1:52:41 PM

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"I guess the Star Wars franchise made the gameplay seem better than it actually was."

No Hoth, no game.

9/1/2007 3:11:40 PM

nah, rogue squadron and 2 were both great. i never played 3. that said, it has been a long time since they were released so ppl expect more. that said, of course SW theme helped.

9/1/2007 3:15:45 PM

Quote :

"I seriously doubt that they made a bad game on purpose just to stick it to Sony. However, I do think it is entirely possible that Sony forced them into doing it. From what I have heard from developers, most pride themselves in what they make. I also think it is entirely possible that they were still working on making Sixaxis better, but Sony gave them a set in stone release date that they were not allowed to break."

CapnObvious, you kinda missed the whole point of my post. I wasn't saying they delibaretely made the game bad to stick it to Sony. They included "unofficial" support for the analog sticks (by plugging in a USB controller) to stick it to Sony. (since I'm assuming that Sony FORCED them to make it SIXAXIS only)

get it?

[Edited on September 2, 2007 at 11:56 AM. Reason : d]

9/2/2007 11:52:37 AM

[doubtful]

9/2/2007 4:01:48 PM

This is getting a little crazy.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186459

You know, for a game like Lair, this is pretty useless other than as a proof of concept. But imagine using it for something like a JPRG, where response time means nothing (like, if they implemented to work with all the PS1/PS2 games you can play on your PS3). With PSPs TV out feature, you could theoretically be on the road, remote play a game on your PS3 through your PSP, and output it to a TV. Amazing idea, and even more amazing that it actually works.

[Edited on September 3, 2007 at 8:07 AM. Reason : :]

9/3/2007 7:53:54 AM

if they could only get that remote play feature to work with Warhawk.....then I would get even less done.

9/4/2007 7:58:03 AM

New firmware out, 1.92.

Apparently it speeds just about everything up: system bootup, XMB access, thumbnail loading times, game loading times, etc etc. Controllers now auto-shutoff after 5 minutes of inactivity (yay!) There are rumours circulating that it also fixes warhawk freezing problem + improves the responsiveness of the sixaxis (people are saying controls in Lair feel 'tighter'). Probably just wishful thinking LOLLERCOPTER.

Sounds to me like they're prepping for the next BIG fw update, which should let us tinker w/the XMB from in-game.

9/4/2007 10:14:40 AM

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"Sounds to me like they're prepping for the next BIG fw update, which should let us tinker w/the XMB from in-game."

Good lord thank god. This to me is the one the most critical needed features - period.

9/4/2007 10:33:30 AM

Sounds good. Man Warhawk is fun as crap.

9/4/2007 10:46:25 AM

Just saw this story. Sony's Japan troubles continue and looks like we'll see another price cut..seems like it's the Wii of all things that's kicking their butt in their important native market.

More PS3 Price Cuts Imminent...
Tokyo-based Sony Corp. will net $2.9 billion when it sells 34.5 percent of Sony Financial Holdings Inc. October 11 in the Japan's biggest initial public offering of 2007. Sony Financial Holdings, a consolidated subsidiary of Sony Corp., is the company's insurance unit formed in 2004. Bloomberg spoke with analysts who speculated the move was meant to raise funds for the currently unprofitable game division and consumer electronics division.

A Tokyo-based analyst told Bloomberg the increased assets could allow Sony to pursue additional PlayStation 3 price cuts. The move could help Sony move more units in Japan, where the PS3 is being outsold 3-to-1 by the Wii, as well as worldwide.

9/4/2007 8:22:01 PM

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"seems like it's the Wii of all things"

thats the only thing that would kick their ass. the 360 could be a dedicated jrpg, pervy sex game, and fighting console and would still never be bought by the japanese.

9/4/2007 8:29:03 PM

True. Well if the Wii is doing so goddamn well everywhere, where aren't there more games?

Anyway. Yeah.

9/5/2007 12:25:17 AM

I started a TWW guild on Warhawk. Send a message to "philihp" for an invite. Clan tag is [NCSU].

9/5/2007 2:41:49 AM

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"Controllers now auto-shutoff after 5 minutes of inactivity."

It's about time. I hope it is disabled in movie mode though.

9/5/2007 8:02:32 AM

i just noticed i didn't have to plug in the controller to do the update and that made me happy

9/5/2007 8:19:26 AM

^noticed that too

9/5/2007 9:39:39 AM

By the way, what did you all think of the Folklore demo? I have to say, I didn't really think much of this game, but after reading some previews and now playing the demo, my interest is piqued. It seems like a nice mix of adventure/RPG with really pretty graphics and an elegant use for the SIXAXIS. With a decent story and a lengthy adventure, I think we could have a sleeper hit on our hands. I could see this game coming from no where and washing out the bad taste that Lair left in our mouths.





http://ps3.ign.com/articles/816/816881p1.html

[Edited on September 5, 2007 at 11:04 AM. Reason : couple screenshots for viewing pleasure]

9/5/2007 10:55:54 AM

have any of us actually played Lair?

9/5/2007 10:58:50 AM

No, but I think it's pretty safe to say that even if it's not quite as horrific as the reviews make it out to be, it didn't live up to expectations.

9/5/2007 11:02:36 AM