Thats something we definitely wont get an answer to.

If we get an answer to the Michael other thing it will be in the podcast. I'm pretty sure they will answer that in the podcast if there are any more.

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4/20/2010 11:26:21 PM

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"Yeah, the cabin was a holding cell for the MiB Which makes me think of something else When Horrace appeared to Locke and first told him about the cabin, wtf was that? Why was he on a loop? I figure that was the first step in the MiB's plan to kill Jobob, right?"

if it was his holding cell i don't think jobob would've trapped him in there. he always had that thing about not interfering directly with the choices that people make, so trapping MiB doesn't seem like something jobob would do unless someone else like richard did it.

i guess horace could've been MiB. he might even have been walt even though there's nothing to suggest that. it woulda been nice if MiB would've given jack a list of everyone who he possessed.

4/20/2010 11:29:55 PM

idk if you guys listen to the podcast but thats shit we're not going to get because its not as cool when you know everything about everything

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4/20/2010 11:31:33 PM

We know they aren't going to answer it

We're still going to discuss it ok

4/20/2010 11:33:09 PM

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"it woulda been nice if MiB would've given jack a list of everyone who he possessed."

fascinating discussion

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4/20/2010 11:34:00 PM

why on earth do you think jack is dead?

I'm pretty sure I watched the entire episode but don't remember seeing locke put hume into the well. I had a hard time figuring out of that was the end of the "previously on lost" or the start of tonights episode.

I'm willing to bet Sayid did not kill desmond.

4/20/2010 11:40:51 PM

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"fascinating discussion"

congrats on taking a one liner that no one addressed to try and somehow prove that what we're talking about is pointless

4/20/2010 11:45:55 PM

There were way too many gun-cocking sound effects when people weren't really cocking their guns. Damn cliches...

4/21/2010 1:17:03 AM

[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 2:57 AM. Reason : lol]

4/21/2010 2:56:51 AM

Final Season Of 'Lost' Promises To Make Fans More Annoying Than Ever

4/21/2010 7:35:51 AM

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"There were way too many gun-cocking sound effects when people weren't really cocking their guns. Damn cliches..."

lol yea i had noticed that tonight too.. we got the gun-cocking sound effect every time a gun was raised which was really stupid and annoying.

4/21/2010 7:44:14 AM

SOOOOO HAPPYYYYY that Sun and Jin were reunited.


it's sad that I'm so sick of questions on this show that I'm focusing more on people being reunited and being together forever (for the record, I'm not a romantic person)

4/21/2010 8:11:04 AM

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"i guess christian is MiB after all. the whole thing with michael on the freighter still doesn't add up though."

Also doesn't add up with that time Jack was back in the hospital and the smoke alarm went off, then he went outside and Christian was there.


And I don't think MiB was ever Walt, he did confirm that the person has to be dead for him to take their shape.

4/21/2010 9:24:41 AM

walt died in the crash?

4/21/2010 9:32:49 AM

^ lol no

MiB being Christian also doesn't account for what happened to Christian's body. I guess it could be just rotting in the jungle, but I'm chalking these up to minor plot holes.

4/21/2010 9:44:05 AM

I think you guys are taking what MiB said a little too literally. He was Christian in that specific instance, but not every single time we've seen him. Remember when Jack saw Christian in the hospital? You know, the singular event that started his downward spiral into alcoholism, breaking up with Kate, and becoming obsessed with getting back to the island. That couldn't have been MiB.

4/21/2010 10:11:57 AM

That's our point

4/21/2010 10:25:47 AM

Yeah, I dunno. It'd be nice for them to explain every single one of these little mysteries, but at this point, it's not really necessary. The told us all we really needed to know about the main mythology of the show with the Richard episode, and now it's all about wrapping up the stories of the individual characters. In fact, it'd almost be better to leave them as mysteries rather than giving cheap explanations like "whispering ghosts" or "the boat destroyed the statue".

4/21/2010 10:37:52 AM

I can let mysteries of magic go, e.g. "how did the bomb make two timelines", "where did walt get his special powers", "why can that guy talk to ghosts" etc. Other mysteries of "why did so-and-so make a clearly irrational choice instead of a rational one" are harder to forgive.

At this point, I really don't give a single shit about Jack, Kate, Hurley, etc. I was happy for Jin and Sun, but that was the last character connection I had. Now I'm just interested in wrapping up the mysteries with detailed, fully accountable explanations.

I will be disappointed.

[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 11:24 AM. Reason : .]

4/21/2010 11:17:59 AM

I've accepted that 90% of the mysteries will never be solved, but what I would be most interested in is the reasonign they were created in the first place. It would be awesome if after the show they went and wrote a book or released a bonus DVD where they talked about some of the old more major mysteries (things like Walt) and what they originally intended for them.

4/21/2010 12:35:10 PM

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"I think you guys are taking what MiB said a little too literally. He was Christian in that specific instance, but not every single time we've seen him. Remember when Jack saw Christian in the hospital? You know, the singular event that started his downward spiral into alcoholism, breaking up with Kate, and becoming obsessed with getting back to the island. That couldn't have been MiB."

I agree. I guess it's possible that maybe Jacob was Christian in the other instances (like when Jack saw him at the hospital after the alarm went off). I believe it was MiB who said that Jacob had picked out Jack and that whole crew even before they crashed on the island. It's possible that Jacob was taking the form of people to influence (or make them go cray cray) the losties to go back to the island.

I think it's funny that Claire said to Jack "so he told you that he was our father in the jungle." I guess MiB took the shape of Christian to lure Claire away from the group (and Aaron) that night she disappeared. I'm just surprised that she was able to walk away from her baby so easily but now wants him back so badly.

I still think something is weird with Claire.

4/21/2010 12:46:31 PM

So they've mentioned a few times that the reason they are on the island is that Jabob needed a replacement after he died. But he wouldn't have died if he hadn't had brought them there in the first place. I guess he brought them to show MiB that people can still be good?

4/21/2010 1:23:57 PM

^good point, but they never specified that Jacob needed to die in order to be replaced.

4/21/2010 1:27:21 PM

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"I guess it's possible that maybe Jacob was Christian in the other instances (like when Jack saw him at the hospital after the alarm went off)."

i don't think it's possible. if MiB could get off the island to do that, he wouldn't be going to all this trouble rounding folks up to do it now. i think

4/21/2010 1:36:46 PM

Curious to find out what the MiB will do to Claire when he finds her. Sayid definitely didn't kill Desmond.

4/21/2010 1:36:50 PM

so it doesn't look like this has been talked about:

When sun was being wheeled into the hospital, she was beside Locke and said "it's HIM!" (and seemed very frightened), and then locke grinned.

Is it possible that it's MiB in locke's body in the other reality somehow?

At first I thought, no - it can't be because he would have went back and forth with MiB/Locke on the island. But that only happened with desmond. Island Hurley doesn't know that alternate reality hurley knows about island hurley memories (if that makes sense).

So, I'm thinking maybe something is going to happen on the island which will cause their "consciousness/memories", or at least MiB's, to jump to the other reality (though it's in the past compared to the island) - i mean, a lot of people already suspect that in some regard. But i think maybe it hasn't happened yet on the island. As in what we're seeing in bizarro world (them beginning to remember things) is the result of something still to come on the island.


I kinda feel like i'm saying something that's already known, but at the same time is different.

4/21/2010 3:16:07 PM

^duro, you always come strong. VERY interesting theory (re: the alternate reality Locke being the MiB). If this theory is correct, it would give rise to a whole host of new questions: if that is the MiB, then he has already escaped the island, right? Has he set into forth a plan to do the damage that Jacob, Ilana, Whidmore, etc. all insist that he would do if he escaped? Or were they all wrong and all he really wanted to do was escape the island to live a normal life? Previously, most of us just assumed that Desmond ran over Locke in the alt-timeline to get him into the hospital, but if this theory is true, is it possible that Desmond knows that he is the MiB and was ACTUALLY trying to kill him? Was the whole episode dedicated to Locke's alt-timeline simply just meant to throw us off the trail?

4/21/2010 3:59:35 PM

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"and then locke grinned."

I don't remember this

4/21/2010 4:04:21 PM

^I remember it. I was trying to figure out what it meant and I couldn't figure it out. duro's theory is pretty solid to me.

4/21/2010 4:09:53 PM

Just rewatched that scene on ABC.com

I guess maybe he has the faintest hint of a smile

Not very convincing

4/21/2010 4:19:47 PM

i just watched it again, definitely agree that it's questionable to call it a grin - or much of a reaction at all (i was going off seeing it once at 12am).

Maybe after her near death experience she just had a memory of him being "bad" from the island and that's why she started flipping out. Alternate reality Sun has never met Locke. But it could definitely just be that she has a brief memory of MiB as Locke and that caused the reaction.

4/21/2010 4:40:59 PM

^yeah, that's how I looked at it too; that Sun remembered Locke as being bad based on her recent interaction with MiB-Locke.

If the trend were to apply to Locke, then his alt timeline self would "sync" with his island timeline self and he'd remember everything from coming to the island and diggin the hatch, to his trip off the island to convince Jake, Kate, et al to come back. Talk about an akward moment, what if he remembered Ben murdering him, then all of a sudden Linus is chillin' in the hospital room when he wakes up worried about him.

It's for that reason I don't think he'd "sync" with the MiB, b/c it'd be a mix of "new" memories from his time on the island as himself and then as MiB incarnate, and that just doesn't make sense to me.

4/21/2010 4:58:39 PM

I still like the theory, if only because it would make for an interesting little twist.

4/21/2010 5:08:07 PM

"duros" theory is exactly what I said long ago, after the locke episode.

Now its more like the near death experience awakens everyone to the island reality and getting hit by the car is going to turn locke into the smoke monster.

4/21/2010 6:33:12 PM

I dont think the alt-locke has the memories of the smoke monster.



[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 8:25 PM. Reason : .]

4/21/2010 8:21:59 PM

i like how jack said locke's dural sac was fucked up just like the girl in the story he told kate in the first episode.

4/21/2010 9:11:43 PM

^when he was operating on Ben, in order to get Kate busted out, didn't he purposefully slit Ben's dural sac? Maybe not, but that's what I was thinking when he mentioned it this episode.

4/21/2010 9:17:00 PM

^ i think you might be right

it would be kind of interesting if jack fixes locke's legs in bizarro world since it would be an act of science that healed the man of faith in that case

[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 9:32 PM. Reason : .]

4/21/2010 9:22:26 PM

if the surgery goes well, i bet we see



but in the hospital

4/22/2010 2:35:16 AM

i thought jack slit ben's kidney

not that it makes a lot of difference

4/22/2010 12:38:15 PM

attn mambagrl

http://www.google.com/search?q=lost+finale+call+sheet

4/26/2010 5:21:31 PM

^lol...holy shit. Anyone here actually read the spoilers?

[Edited on April 26, 2010 at 5:34 PM. Reason : .]

4/26/2010 5:33:56 PM

Interesting...Interesting I tell you... or is it?


III

4/26/2010 5:46:38 PM

WILL

NOT

READ

4/26/2010 6:58:56 PM

i quit reading spoilers but im debating on reading that

4/26/2010 7:01:47 PM

I've peaked at the spoilers wiki once or twice this season, but it's usually something like "JACK TALKS TO LOCKE" or "KATE FILMED A SCENE IN THE JUNGLE"

I did read a single line from the leaked call sheet before thinking better of it. No clue if it's real -- if it is, the finale is gonna be doo doo.

4/26/2010 9:25:30 PM

apparently there's supposed to be a big emotional death scene coming up but i have no idea who it is

4/26/2010 10:28:47 PM

Hope it's Jack or Kate... or even better yet, both.

4/27/2010 9:41:39 AM

it better not be Desmond or Jin/Sun... I will flip a lid

4/27/2010 11:01:13 AM

my money is on Jin or Sun

4/27/2010 11:06:47 AM