http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=122361

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"I was on the Evo bandwagon and have been thinking about the switch since its announcement. Is the Evo worth the extra cost? Current Plan: SERO 500: Cost per Mo. $30 Ins&Tep: $7 Surcharges: $2.16 Tax: $2 4G Access: $0 CorpDiscount:0% Tot. Per Mo.: $41.16 24 Months: $987.84 Proposed Plan Req. For Evo: Everything Data 450: Cost per Mo. $69.99 Ins&Tep: $7 Surcharges: $2.16 Tax: $4.04 4G Access: $10 CorpDiscount: 20% Tot. Per Mo.: $74.55 24 Months: $1789.18 Cost to keep the TP2 for 2 years: $987.84 Cost to own the new evo (including phone): $1989.18 If you are planning on switching, have you been able to formulate a better deal? Thanks pt "

5/24/2010 8:20:48 PM

ordered the eris, will be here tomorrow unless i miss the delivery. i have 30 days to decide if i like it, i wanted to save money but i may exchange it for the incredible. it was hard to argue with $40 and no activation though.

5/24/2010 8:58:28 PM

eris = fail

5/24/2010 9:08:53 PM

why is that. i scrolled through the thread and there were some people who liked it

i mean i know the incredible is a lot better, but is it $160 better?

[Edited on May 24, 2010 at 9:20 PM. Reason : .]

5/24/2010 9:19:27 PM

The Eris is underpowered but it still isn't that bad of a phone for the price. If you don't plan on loading it down it should be fine. The Incredible is just an Eris on steroids.

5/24/2010 9:33:09 PM

I dont think the Eris is underpowered at all. With the latest SenseUI installed it is amazingly fast, faster navigating through menus than my OC'd Moto Droid.

5/24/2010 9:34:53 PM

well i will be loading it. at least by the time my 30 day trial period is running out they should have some incredibles in stock if i want to switch.

5/24/2010 9:36:00 PM

Yeah, the Eris is okay if you're not really going to play around much but if you want a bunch of apps, speed, plan to multi-task a lot, etc. then it's not the right phone. I'm happiER with mine since 2.1 but I'm definitely watching new phones coming out. For me, I have my laptop & iPad if I want to play so it's not that important to me with the phone. The Eris is just too underpowered for me to be completely satisfied though. I still hate the "phone" part of it. It shouldn't take 10-15 seconds just to get a damn speed dial number dialed.

5/25/2010 12:28:39 AM

^ something is wrong with your phone, possibly user error

5/25/2010 12:53:30 AM

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"The Eris is underpowered but it still isn't that bad of a phone for the price. If you don't plan on loading it down it should be fine. The Incredible is just an Eris on steroids."

Yeah, it's called the Eris GT for a reason.

5/25/2010 12:56:15 AM

Previous Plan:SERO 1250:
Cost per Mo. $50
Ins&Tep: $7
Surcharges: $5.54
Tax: $3.99
4G Access: $0
CorpDiscount:0%
Tot. Per Mo.: $66.53
24 Months: $1596.72


Proposed Plan Req. For Evo:
Everything Data 450:
Cost per Mo. $69.99
Ins&Tep: $7
Surcharges: $5.54
Tax: $5.60
4G Access: $10
CorpDiscount: 23%
Tot. Per Mo.: $80.53
24 Months: $1932.72

Cost to keep the TP2 for 2 years: $1596.72
Cost to own the new evo (including phone): $1947.72
$1932.72 + $15.00 (189.99[Evo]-175[TP2 sale])

$351 - Cost to own Evo for 2 years.

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I tried copying over my spreadsheet, but it's way too late to be double checking figures. Sprint site is down and I don't know if the discount is applied before taxes, if the surcharges changed or anything. I keep coming up with about 80/month with 23% so I'm just going to use that for now. I sold my TP2 for 175 and I'll be paying 189.99 for the Evo. 450 AT will work out with anymobile, so I won't be paying that much more.



[Edited on May 25, 2010 at 1:54 AM. Reason : tweak]

5/25/2010 1:42:23 AM

The Evo upcharges ($10 buyup and $30 hotspot fee) won't receive corp discounts. And the corp discounts are taken out before tax, tax adding about 13%.

5/25/2010 4:43:13 AM

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"^ something is wrong with your phone, possibly user error"

Yes, that's it. I'm retarded and have difficulty remembering how to hit the green button followed by one of the contacts.... You have an OC'd Droid that's slower than an Eris and you're saying something is wrong with MY phone? Yeah, I'm sure it's just me....

5/25/2010 7:21:34 AM

SenseUI is smoother in general than stock android. Either way the Eris is at a disadvantage hardware-wise when compared to the Droid or Incredible. And the Eris is pretty close to being EOL.

ha, and apparently Verizon pulled an apple with the Shadow. Someone supposedly found it in a verizon gym.

5/25/2010 8:05:35 AM

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"Yes, that's it. I'm retarded and have difficulty remembering how to hit the green button followed by one of the contacts.... You have an OC'd Droid that's slower than an Eris and you're saying something is wrong with MY phone? Yeah, I'm sure it's just me...."

Yes, I am. I know 3 people who have traded in their Moto Droids for a Droid Eris, and are completely happy with their trade. Guess it could be the kind of apps you are wanting to run in the Eris, not sure

5/25/2010 11:29:54 AM

So I'm thinking of switching to Verizon and getting an Incredible, any advice?

Right now I'm on my parent's AT&T family plan and they're not on a contract. (Getting tired of the Razr I've had for 4 years...)

Any tips? I heard it was a good idea to wait until the end of the month, so I'm thinking some time this week I'd go to the Verizon store and tell them what I want.

I'm probably going to go for a data plan with the smallest texting package (that isn't 0 texts).

How much trouble is it to port your number over?

5/25/2010 12:42:55 PM

Depending on where you are, you might need to wait a little longer.. the Incredible is back-ordered a couple weeks here, but I'm not sure about where you are.

5/25/2010 1:11:26 PM

I'm in Fredericksburg, VA. No idea what the availability is here, all I know is that they had a demo unit at the store I was at last week.

Considering I've been using the same mediocre phone for 4 years I won't have a problem waiting a bit longer.

5/25/2010 1:15:42 PM

Porting your phone number over is easy, just tell them you want to do it, in most stores they pretty much just assume you want to, shouldn't be a cost.

$5 for 250 texts i think is the cheapest text package, $30 for unlimited data

Get the Incredible if you can.

5/25/2010 1:25:43 PM

i like the incredible. i am waiting for the shadow to come out so that i can compare the two.

i would prefer android with no skin (i.e sense UI).

5/25/2010 3:56:48 PM

I'm trying to get the new HTC Incredible with my "New Every Two", but I think they are incredibly out of them. Doesn't even show up on the list of available phones for me.

[Edited on May 25, 2010 at 5:04 PM. Reason : Verizon's website is slow as balls in ice water ]

[Edited on May 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM. Reason : NVM, it's back up]

5/25/2010 5:03:31 PM

For those of you who have Live Wallpaper on your android phones, check this out. Their is a "Zombie Live" Wallpaper out..
http://www.androidcentral.com/quick-app-pixel-zombies-live-wallpaper

5/25/2010 6:02:33 PM

got the eris

what apps do i need

5/25/2010 7:04:24 PM

http://www.appbrain.com/

5/25/2010 7:10:24 PM

Benchmark comparison between the Droid with 2.1, Evo 4G with 2.1/SenseUI and the NexusOne running Froyo. I get just over 6 using Linpack on the Droid running SenseUI and OC'd to 750MHz. Still way under the almost 40 that froyo was getting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utnYpybdIKo

5/25/2010 7:12:54 PM

i'm pretty happy with this eris so far and this is only 1.5, they said i should get a notification about an update on the phone.

[Edited on May 25, 2010 at 8:55 PM. Reason : .]

5/25/2010 8:27:28 PM

^^^

handcent (much better than stock messanger)
Astro - file manager
touiteur - if you use twitter (preference of course)
NPR / NY Times / Reuters - good apps for news or streaming NPR
Google Voice - love not calling my carriers voicemail
WordPress - if you use it of course
Scanner Radio - hillarious listening to the Raleigh cops
Tip Calculator - basic, but makes tips easier than how easy it is now
Tube Downloader - good for d/loading youtube videos
Pandora/Slacker -
Shazam - cool
Adobe Reader if you need it
I can send you a link to Swype, which is an amazing keyboard.
Dropbox - if you use it (there are 3rd party ones that may be better)
Google Finance
First Aid / iTriage
Google Goggles
Google Sky Map
Google Gesture - universal search with gestures
Movies - if you go to them
Skyfire - enables some Flash - nice if you arent on Froyo
R-Line - Raleigh buses downtown - VERY accurate
SetCPU - if rooted
Urban Spoon - can be useful for food.

5/26/2010 8:38:43 AM

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"Tip Calculator - basic, but makes tips easier than how easy it is now"

I still can't believe people use these things. It takes about 5x longer to get out your phone and use an app to calculate a tip than to do it manually.

5/26/2010 9:14:38 AM

^ Maybe want to give like 13.213% tip?

5/26/2010 9:18:15 AM

haha, that's exactly what I was wondering. Do people use that just to give weird % tips?

Anyway, I do appreciate the list of suggested apps since I'm just waiting until this summer to upgrade to an Android phone.

[Edited on May 26, 2010 at 9:49 AM. Reason : ]

5/26/2010 9:38:38 AM

does Sprint/will the Evo 4G have any type of visual voicemail?

5/26/2010 10:38:05 AM

@Duncan, you might want to get the unlimited text package. I'm not sure how much you text now, but texting on the Incredible is a breeze. ...and the speech-to-text is amazing.

5/26/2010 10:50:03 AM

How easy is it to switch texting plans?

I really don't text very much now, but I could see myself using it more if it's easier.

I figured I'd start with the 250/month plan and save $15/month and upgrade later if I find myself texting that much.

5/26/2010 10:56:07 AM

I'm a verizon user, currently have that blackberry 8330. My new every two is coming up in about 3 months, what's TWW recommend as far as Droid vs Incredible vs somethingcoollikethat.

definitely wanna get on that android.

5/26/2010 10:56:58 AM

Can't believe you guys are calling out my recommendation about tips... I even pointed out its a very easy task already..... I use it a lot in groups and sometimes when I want to do more that 15, but less than 20... because that is not easier than pushing a few buttons on my phone.

5/26/2010 11:32:12 AM

My buddy always uses a tip calculator but never leaves obscure tips. It takes really horrible service for me to leave a bad tip so usually I either halve the bill twice or I use the 20% trick. I can't really think of a situation where I'm leaving 18% but I'll reach for the calculator when I'm too drunk to crunch numbers or feeling especially lazy.

56.45
5.65 x 2
11.30

56
28
14

5/26/2010 11:58:14 AM

Sideview of the Shadow. Not really digging the bulge at the top where the camera is.

5/26/2010 12:13:48 PM

fail

to everyone who isn't a member of that forum

5/26/2010 12:36:09 PM

List of good apps:

FlyScreen or SlideScreen
Google Sky Map
ShopSavvy
Google Translate
Touiteur or Twitter official app
WordPress
UrbanSpoon
DoodleDroid
Beautiful Widgets
PDANet (tethering) or Wireless Tether (root)
Snaptic Compass
Snaptic AK Notepad
StudyDroid
Camera ZOOM FX or FxCamera
PhotoBurst or Continuous Shoot
Nesoid Lite
Pandora
WeFi (wifi finder)
GDocs
Gmote
Where's My Droid
Mobile Defense
Aldiko (ebook reader)
Photoshop.com
WeatherChannel
LED Flashlight
SMS Popup (or Handscent)
PhonemyPC
Speedtest.net
Locale
Fusion Voicemail Plus (Visual VM)
FeedR
KeyRing
Dropbox
Adobe PDF
ROMmanager
setCPU
LEDshack
ASTRO file manager
Sweet Dreams
MixZing (media player)
Skyfire Browser
Pandora
USAToday
UrbanSpoon
Movies
Swype (or SlideIT)
Softrace or RunKeeper
Mint
Subsonic (media streaming)
Skype

I use DoubleTwist for syncing photos, videos, and iTunes playlists to my Droid
http://www.droiditunes.com/

5/26/2010 12:48:11 PM

lol. whoops. lets try again

5/26/2010 12:48:50 PM

Get Scoremobile for Sports. It just came out for android.

5/26/2010 1:48:01 PM

Trying to decide which way to go. New at 2 K comes available in next month or so with Verizon. Heavily leaning twds the Incredible. Currently using BB Curve 8330. I have had no major issues with it, but looking to upgrade.

My GF has Droid and loves it, but she is not to tech savy or into the apps as I would be.

My problem is I have no idea of the "tech" language and want to make sure I get the best phone for multi-tasking, speedy and smooth browser, and easy email/message pull-up/storage/response.

I am also addicted to BB messenger...I am sure there has to be a app to add that to the android?


III

5/26/2010 2:00:36 PM

BBM is a blackberry thing so I doubt you'll ever see it on android. Any of the Droid phones are a step up from the 8330. The webkit browser is top notch and leagues ahead of anything RIM offers. You'd need to wait til RIM releases an OS 6.0 device to get a similar experience.

Multitasking is easy and can be done by holding the home button and switching to one of your 6 most recent apps used (Froyo will list 8 most recent apps). Apps are generally put into a suspended state while you run another one unless it's running as a service in the background so if you're playing a game and pause it to do something else, it'll get closed if you open more than 6 (8 on froyo) apps before going back.

Gmail integration is great but still has a few quirks (downloading attachments, etc). SenseUI adds more Exchange features like allowing security policies but Touchdown for Exchange is a must have for anyone wanting flawless exchange support. For text messaging, Handcent is a pretty good alternative to the stock messaging app and it's free.

5/26/2010 2:13:06 PM

Has anyone tried Red Phone?
Its supposed to allow you to make encrypted phone calls over 3G or Wifi.
http://www.whispersys.com/

5/26/2010 2:39:08 PM

Quote :

"Can't believe you guys are calling out my recommendation about tips... I even pointed out its a very easy task already..... I use it a lot in groups and sometimes when I want to do more that 15, but less than 20... because that is not easier than pushing a few buttons on my phone."

wasn't really "calling you out" but even what you described is easier to do in 5 seconds in your head vs pulling out a phone unless you want to leave an *exact* tip at some number in between 15% and 20% for some reason.

I mean no big deal to me if someone uses a tip calculator, but I just can't think of a time someone could would need to use one.

5/26/2010 3:06:27 PM

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"I mean no big deal to me if someone uses a tip calculator, but I just can't think of a time someone could would need to use one."

seriously, simple math in your head can get you 10/15/20% for tip, calculating 18% is only saving/costing $2-3 on a $100 bill, how often do you need to do that? and why wouldn't the default calculator do that for you? and why would you care about $2-3 on a $100 bill?

just face it, it's an app for people bad at math.

[Edited on May 26, 2010 at 3:37 PM. Reason : .]

5/26/2010 3:36:02 PM

or convenience. Clearly a personal choice. When I want to split up a bill its tremendously easier. For those who agree, the app I mentioned is one of the better. To those who think doing it in their head, dont like exact numbers, or whatever.... do not use this app.

What app are you guys using for screen shots? I use the computer but would like to put up a pic of my current setup.

Which reminds me:

Launcer Pro - GREAT launcher (functions and FAST). Will post a pic if someone knows a good app to try.

5/26/2010 3:57:59 PM

I usually just double the tax and round up but I can see the convenience of using some sort of calculator. Not to mention I have a knack for making math errors.

If you're rooted, you can use drocap2 in the market.

5/26/2010 4:06:13 PM

^ works well. Did not have time to fool with the SU notification showing.

I LOVE Launcher Pro (shown) and the Zombie live wallpaper. This is on my G1 with cyan's 5.0.7. Love not having the clock up there.



[Edited on May 26, 2010 at 4:28 PM. Reason : eagt]

5/26/2010 4:27:18 PM

^yea i saw that zombie wallpaper today, kinda funny.

Why do you love not having the clock? just too big or what?

5/26/2010 4:34:44 PM