i love the "friend" missions, I've seen Pathos a couple times, he's a rapper on the street and you have to kill people that are dissing him and take him to the hospital when he gets shot and stuff

5/13/2008 10:09:21 PM

only 140 pigeons and 40 stunt jumps to go for 100%

5/13/2008 10:45:19 PM

^ holy shit...

5/13/2008 11:16:08 PM

yeah well i'm not working right now, so i have a little free time on my hands

and after having hit 100% on San Andreas, this is nothing...not nearly as much bullshit to do (like the bike races on Mt Paran, train driving, etc)

5/14/2008 1:13:57 AM

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/4902-Zero-Punctuation-Grand-Theft-Auto-IV

5/14/2008 1:54:53 PM

ah ha ha

what's next, the write a letter to your mom mission?

5/14/2008 4:18:01 PM

Haha, he must have missed the part where you email her.

5/14/2008 4:26:15 PM

haha faaking oresome

5/14/2008 4:37:05 PM

woot.. 100% took me about 56 hours
and fwiw finishing the story for me was 25 hrs and around 65%

now i can move on to multiplayer

5/14/2008 5:25:39 PM

^get a haircut and get a real job

5/14/2008 5:28:28 PM

funny you should say that...
i actually accepted a job on monday this week. (i got a haircut for the interview)
AND.. theyre gonna do a hair drug test on me . but yea i'm not gonna make some 8 page thread about it like you would

5/14/2008 5:52:44 PM

so, did you find a useful stunt jump guide online? that's the final 2.5% I have to get

for the pigeons, i used the info here

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/gta-iv-complete-pigeon-guide/a-2008050210174578002

takes quite a while to get all 200

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 7:42 PM. Reason : .]

5/14/2008 7:40:42 PM

^ yes thats exactly what i used actually... and i got the stunt jumps info from the same site.. they have a bunch of good gta info
and for a 100% checklist i used this http://gta4.tv/100percent.php

5/14/2008 10:32:08 PM

i found their stunt jumps stuff shortly after my edit windo expired on that post...30 or so to go

some of them are such a bitch...i swear i did one about half a dozen times the same way and it finally completed on what looked to be my worst jump yet

5/15/2008 12:27:22 AM

1) can you make it so only 2-3 radio stations (that u choose) play?

2) is there any point to bowling,darts,etc michelle/roman? or can i just ignore that crap?

3) that knife sales show on tv is pretty funny

5/15/2008 12:35:30 AM

Quote :

"theyre gonna do a hair drug test on me . but yea i'm not gonna make some 8 page thread about it like you would"

I C WUT U DID DER!!!!!

5/15/2008 2:25:18 AM

When the fuck does the story pick back up? Seriously, I'm tired of running errands for the McCrearys and the Mafia guys. Can somebody please tell me whose missions I have to beat so I can get along with Niko's story?

5/15/2008 6:14:50 AM

lol @ caring about the story

5/15/2008 6:47:12 AM

touche' Polojal, touche'

5/15/2008 8:33:18 AM

question about stunt jumps (and i havent looked at the map yet)

but the one jump in alderney...kind of near your safehouse, but not the one that jumps all the way to algonquin...but the one that faces the helipad...what are you supposed to do? i jumped over the helicopter in the water and it didnt work...am i supposed to land on the helipad or something?

5/15/2008 9:34:44 AM

So i've been a HUGE gta fan since the 1st one. I've been waiting for 4 with much anticipation. I turned it on. I started to play.


Who did they pay to screw up the camera so bad?? I cannot play this game now, at least not until it comes out on pc. The camera is absolutely retarded.

5/15/2008 12:45:35 PM

really? I actually like the camera, and the driving. makes for a nice challenge.

5/15/2008 12:46:48 PM

i think the camera in 3, VC, and SA was easier but its not that different in 4

yeah you have to use the right stick sometimes to adjust your camera but its not that big of a deal to me...also its helpful sometimes to click the right stick, which will automatically reset the view to center

5/15/2008 12:59:21 PM

FIB Buffalo FTW

5/15/2008 1:08:02 PM

when I'm driving I usually have to hold the right stick down a little bit to tilt the camera higher, that way I can see a bit further down the road than the standard view.

5/15/2008 1:27:26 PM

^yeah i do that too, and always have for the past several GTAs so moving it left and right while turning isn't a big chore for me. I like it, gives it a move cinematic feel or something

5/15/2008 1:31:05 PM

^^def helps for the suprise cars stopped over/at the bottom of certain hills...I hate those bastards

5/15/2008 2:12:30 PM

Quote :

"10 Things That Suck About Grand Theft Auto IV With game reviewers still mopping up their collective ejaculate, you'd think GTA IV was the greatest game of all time. The amount of hyperbole showered on Rockstar's game was unparalleled, with nearly every critic unleashing a string of adjectives that cast GTA IV as the second coming of video gaming Christ. Once the initial euphoria of the graphics wears off, you soon realize that GTA IV doesn't evolve its inherent gameplay beyond that which has come before, and in a lot of respects, significantly less. With a Metacritic score of 99%, one might think it impossible to find any faults with a game that has been equated with everything from Citizen Kane to The Godfather. Wrong. 1. Money Has No Value This is my biggest beef with GTA IV: money has little value. You go on a hundred missions to earn cash...for what? More ammo? A new pair of shoes? I have $750,000 in my bank account and I live in a shit-hole. All the clothes I can buy were purchased in the early stages of the game. So what am I supposed to do with all this money? This is the American Dream? Where did the option to purchase real-estate go? The whole game is based on making money but the designers forgot one key element: you need something to spend money on, else your money is worthless. $5 hamburgers and an optional freeway toll just don't amount to very much. 2. Multiplayer Multiplayer in a GTA game is nothing new if you've played previous PC versions and downloaded certain mods, but this is the first time it's been officially included by Rockstar, so you'd think they'd do it right. Instead, multiplayer feels like an afterthought, sporting a level-up system that takes forever to advance in ranks, all so you can unlock a few items of clothing. The Lobby system can take ages for a game to start, usually because all the stoners in the room forget to click Ready, or worse, bitch and moan about a specific game setting that usually leads to mutiny. There's no shortage of multiplayer game modes, which is great in theory, but I'd gladly take two well-balanced game modes over a multitude of half-assed, poorly designed ideas that find the majority of players running around maps searching for a freaking car. It's called Grand Theft Auto, not Grand Theft Pedestrian. A lot of the problems could easily be addressed by a Host who doesn't have his head up his ass, but most toggle settings that are detrimental to fun, usually forcing the majority of players to abandon a round in mid-stride out of sheer boredom. What GTA IV really needs are maps created specifically for multiplayer, something we'll undoubtedly be paying for in future DLC. 3. Ponderous Story A lot of reviewers keep harping on the stellar, amazing, and unparalleled story, which makes me wonder if any of these guys actually watch movies or read books. The tale of Niko is nothing original, evidenced by hundreds of movies from the era of film noir, but what sets this apart from its cinematic cousins is the sheer ponderousness of the story. This is a plot that barely moves and keeps repeating itself over and over. As a character, Niko doesn't evolve and his actions have little impact on the game world, save for the ending, which is as empty as everything that preceded it. The writers of GTA IV make a rookie mistake: they tell me, they don't show me. Telling me Niko is searching for his moral compass is of no use, especially when none of the elements manifest in terms of gameplay, save for a few rudimentary decisions that are no more than, "Kill Mr. X or Kill Mr. Y." 4. No Upwards Mobility The majority of critics claim that GTA IV is about the American Dream, an ethereal concept that means something different for everyone. In the universe of GTA, the American Dream apparently entails moving from one pigsty apartment to another pigsty apartment, albeit in a slightly better part of town. There is zero sense of social advancement or self-sufficiency, and all the way till the end of the game you find yourself working as nothing more than slave-labor for those who are enjoying the American Dream. 5. A Step Back From Previous Versions While the graphics engine is an amazing achievement and deserving of the highest praise, every other aspect of GTA IV has devolved. It's as if the designers put 95% of their effort into creating a believable environment and used the last 5% for gameplay. Instead of mini-games involving taxi fares, ice-cream trucks, pizza delivery, ambulance driving, fire-fighting, territorial control, managing a gang...you get a boring round of pool, bowling and darts. 6. Wonky Cover System It's great that GTA IV now has a cover system. It's not so great that it makes me want to punch my Xbox in the face. God forbid you attempt the cover system near several objects as you never know where you'll get attached. I've lost track of how many times I've been in cover mode, only to have the game refuse to fire my weapon for some inexplicable reason, forcing me to uncover and recover. It's annoying, frustrating and lacks polish. 7. Dopey Mini-Games Billiards, bowling and darts, eh? Three boring mini-games that have little to no impact on anything. You can't even bet an opponent for some cash, which I guess doesn't matter because money has no value anyway. The designers could have exercised a little creativity by developing a little pick-up basketball game at the park, or skeet shooting, or dirt-bike racing. Hell, I'll take a little Frisbee tossing or miniature golf. Something original, for Pete's sake. 8. Relationships Are Idiotic One new aspect to GTA is the concept of relationships. Unfortunately, it's rudimentary at best, bordering on sublimely retarded. All you have to do is call someone on your phone, pick them up, and head wherever you need to go. Once there, you do nothing that has any impact. As long as you don't total your car or inadvertently shoot your date in the face, they all seem to love you. In the end, relationships in GTA stand as a concept that was never developed. The designers should have taken some notes from The Sims and offered the player tangible options based on the environment the characters find themselves in. 9. Clothing Interface I made a terrible mistake in the early part of the game: I purchased every bit of clothing I could find. I didn't realize that the clothing interface, which hasn't changed from previous versions, would continue to be a monumental example of crappy design. There is no organization to the clothes, no quick way to select a suit or casual attire, forcing the player to view every single item one-by-one, an act that redefines tedium and borders on torture. 10. Phantom Traffic I don't know what else to call this, so I'm sticking with Phantom Traffic. Phantom Traffic has been around ever since GTA went 3D and it continues to bug the hell out of me. What is it? It's when you look down a stretch of road and don't see any cars. You turn around, look down another stretch, and still don't see any cars. So you turn back to your original viewpoint and suddenly there's a freaking traffic-jam, cars everywhere. I was hoping the next-gen version of GTA would expand the distance cars appear, but such is not the case. Ultimately, this means it's pointless to look around and see if any cops are around before stealing a car, as the second you turn your attention to the window, you have no idea what has suddenly materialized behind you."

5/15/2008 2:46:34 PM

I agree with a few of those, especially the money has no value and clothing interface.

Once you do the bank heist you basically are set for the rest of the game.

5/15/2008 3:09:15 PM

^I'm less than 25% through this game and can almost agree with every bit of that

5/15/2008 3:12:07 PM

Quote :

"I've lost track of how many times I've been in cover mode, only to have the game refuse to fire my weapon for some inexplicable reason"

uggghhhhh i hate that!!!

5/15/2008 3:42:05 PM

^happens occasionally, but you can usually fix it just by moving around in the area where you're hiding

5/15/2008 3:49:33 PM

The more multiplayer I play the more I realize the lobby system sucks ass

5/15/2008 3:53:46 PM

see thats what i loved about scarface...you capped some fools, completed some cool missions, and you could but a nicer car/house/girlfriend.

but yeah, i agree with that article nearly in full

5/15/2008 4:15:53 PM

haha that zero punctuation review is hilarious

5/15/2008 4:25:56 PM

^ he should have been aborted

[Edited on May 15, 2008 at 4:57 PM. Reason : not you ncWOLFsu...the zero guy haha]

5/15/2008 4:56:36 PM

^^^It use to be like that in the older GTAs. I remember in Vice city you had a mansion at the end.
I haven't played gta4 that much but now i'm kinda bummed you don't get better safehouses or snazzier clothes, or cooler gfs. Oh well...

[Edited on May 15, 2008 at 4:57 PM. Reason : 6]

5/15/2008 4:56:54 PM

You do get better safehouses and snazzier clothes.

Just no mansions.

5/15/2008 5:10:23 PM

yeah in San Andreas you could buy like 5-6 properties on each of the 3 islands (or was it Vice City)

I agree with a lot of that list...still a great game though

5/15/2008 5:13:41 PM

^sure, several of them are legitimate points


but to me the major point is that I haven't played a game this addicting and fun in several years, which I think justifies the high ratings people have given it.

5/15/2008 5:42:04 PM

I want my goddamn jet pack back.

5/15/2008 6:03:44 PM

5/15/2008 6:35:27 PM

^ I lol'd

...and now feel guilty for it...

5/15/2008 7:17:56 PM

it's definitely smaller than San Andreas...amd he's spot on with the money...unless you go through RPG's like it's nobody's business, there really is no need for a lot of cash...getting 100% is retardedly simple

5/15/2008 9:50:45 PM

i'm not even half way done with the game and the story is already boring the hell out of me. I haven't touched GTA4 in a long time because of Mario Kart. I think San Andreas is the superior game

[Edited on May 15, 2008 at 10:17 PM. Reason : .]

5/15/2008 10:17:31 PM

the problem is the first part of the story (before you get your second safe house) is basically a tutorial...they needed to have some mini-sandbox tutorial that was optional in my opinion

just got 100% completion...final stunt jump was boss (crossing the west river on a motorcycle)

5/16/2008 1:02:01 AM

^thats one of the few jumps ive done...what do you do for the jump by the helipad on the west river south of the jump you're talking about?

5/16/2008 1:07:25 AM

just come from the tunnel on the north side and land on the helipad (from your safehouse, head east and go down the ramp after the T intersection...not too much speed or you'll overshoot it

here's the stunt jump guide i used

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/nail-all-50-stunt-jumps-in-gta-iv/a-200805021829984050

[Edited on May 16, 2008 at 1:48 AM. Reason : .]

5/16/2008 1:47:34 AM

Has anyone tried to pick up a hooker with the g/f still in the car?

5/16/2008 1:50:28 AM

I think I liked San Andreas more. It was way bigger and diverse. the huge ass mountain + woods/forest make it so much better than just dense city.

5/16/2008 2:25:09 AM