SC corners and safeties played lights out on us!
Our receivers were no where to be found.
Our offensive line looked very suspect and 'should' have things in order before Pittsburgh comes to down.
IM GLAD we have to scrub teams next to get our offense in order.
The offensive coordinator needs to take the reigns off Wilson some b/c he was def. hesitating plays,
which he made soundly last season.

We will be fine in the long run, but yes our biggest two question marks are to fine 1) go to receivers when Owen is being double covered and 2) getting SOLID O-Line protection so Wilson can look downfield..

but Pack Nation we will be ok, it just sucks this one didnt go the other way...

9/4/2009 2:02:02 AM

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"The Wolfpack suffers a season-opening loss to the Gamecocks on ESPN."

lol

why do they always talk shit about ncsu?

9/4/2009 6:43:28 AM

^isnt that pretty much what happened?

media conspiracy

9/4/2009 6:59:36 AM

yeah, the bunch of us at the bar who are fairly in the know as far as football, and not merely screaming at refs and about adjusting to SC's zone blocking scheme kept talking about SC's secondary's ability to close so quickly--like most SEC teams.

and about how we clearly recruit volleyball players to flank us at wideout.

9/4/2009 7:48:46 AM

Thoughts on last night's game:

1. Defense was better than I expected and considering how badly we lost the field position battle, giving up just 7 pts was remarkable.

2. Offensive line sucked period.

3. We looked completely unprepared in 1st half.

4. Wilson looked slow and under-threw the WRs on the few deep routes we tried. Glennon has a fucking cannon.

5. Tackling was bad on multiple plays and needs to be more consistent.

6. Missed face mask call was biggest play of the game IMO.

9/4/2009 7:51:58 AM

Missed face mask, missed pass interference on our first drive and a couple of missed holds when garcia would leave the pocket. Good ole SEC officiating
I was happy to see our defense do so well and our O will come around (by the end of the game wilson looked like he was moving quicker)

9/4/2009 7:57:43 AM

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"6. Missed face mask call was biggest play of the game IMO."

are you serious? the play of the game is when we fumbled on our first play from scrimmage and gave them the ball inside the 20 which resulted in their only points of the game.

9/4/2009 8:00:27 AM

^ Yeah but we had time to recover from that play. The timing of the missed face mask is what makes it more significant IMO. Had the ref not blown that call, we start that drive at the SC 35. Instead we were at mid field, got the PI call, got to the 35 and fizzled. We would have atleast been at the 20 with both calls.

In terms of every play in the game, yeah the Baker fumble was the biggest, but we should have been able to recover.

9/4/2009 8:04:08 AM

The dropped pass in the end-zone didn't help either

9/4/2009 8:08:14 AM

So where's the guarantee that there would be a PI if the refs had called the facemask penalty? You can't assume we would have been down at the 20.

No love for the dropped passes? And I kinda agree with the key play being our first snap/fumble. It probably deflated the entire team... at the very least the fans. Fumble on the first snap and the other team scores. The HERE WE GO AGAIN feeling sets in and remains.

9/4/2009 8:13:10 AM

I can kind of understand those drops. The last one was a good defensive play and the defender ripped it out of the receiver's hands. One of the others was double coverage and I guess the receiver lost track of the ball cause the damn thing just bounced off his hands. Which the opening fumble, missed calls by the refs, poor oline play, soft defense and wilson trying to stay in the pocket all had a hand in that clusterfuck of a game.

9/4/2009 8:17:53 AM

the thing about that facemask is that it saved a touchdown. even if they called it, it would have been a huge loss for us.

9/4/2009 8:25:38 AM

There was this guy at the bar last night talking shit about how bad we suck. So I asked him who his team was and he said Notre Dame. To which I responded, "Oh, so I guess you are still pissed about the 2003 Gator Bowl". He had no idea what I was talking about. BIG FAN!

9/4/2009 8:28:41 AM

well they've lost so many bowls since then its probably hard to remember.

9/4/2009 8:32:42 AM

Nah, he is just the typical ND fan that I run into. Fans of the team because it's the cool thing to do, but couldn't even name their starting QB.

Similar to UNC fans and Dallas Cowboys fans.

[Edited on September 4, 2009 at 8:34 AM. Reason : a]

9/4/2009 8:33:42 AM

Ugh, USC fans are insufferable. They're touting this one like it was some banner win and proof of that "stifling SEC defense".

9/4/2009 8:37:41 AM

Their secondary was pretty stout, I would probably have to agree with them.

9/4/2009 8:38:48 AM

Yeah but the problem with that logic is, what do you call our defense? They only scored 7 off of a lucky fumble. Guarantee the USC fans aren't calling it "good".

9/4/2009 8:45:05 AM

Whoever said the SC secondary was closing fast was right on the money. Any time we had a window of an opening, it would disappear before the ball arrived (and it's not like Wilson can't fire the ball). Not only that -- when we did complete a pass, they were all over us before we could make a move.

9/4/2009 8:46:11 AM

UGH... without reading all the whining all I can say is NCSU beat NCSU... USC didn't beat NCSU.

9/4/2009 8:46:41 AM

We drop a few passes. We are a much better team at the beginning of this season than we were at the beginning of last season. Our offense looked fluid at times and we were able to move the chains fairly consistently when we'd get a rythm going. Unlike last year. Just one too many costly mistakes. The penalty on the Spencer catch down the middle, russel throwing over TJ Grahams wrong shoulder as he was streaking down the middle, the fumble, and of course the jay smith catch. We also had a costly holding penalty I remember.

I was actually suprised by our defense. Big improvement from the beginning of last year. Remember they broke in the 2nd half giving up 34 points. Didn't happen tonight, was good to see! Secondary really suprised me...Garcia had a really long time to hold on to the ball several times but couldn't find anyone open down field

9/4/2009 8:46:54 AM

^ Technically the D did not give up 34 pts last year. 6pts were a result of Evans's horrible, horrible pick 6 to start the 2nd half. Also the score at half last year was 3-0 I think.

9/4/2009 8:56:55 AM

last night in my drunken stupor I thought that Spurrier's timeout in the 4th quarter while we were driving and had all the momentum was a great call and might've won them the game


now that I'm sober, I totally agree

9/4/2009 9:02:48 AM

We definitely beat ourselves last night. Our O has me concerned because their D, while athletic, is really young and was without 2-3 players due to suspension. RW definitely looked slow, our OL got bullyed the whole first half, we had dumb penalties cost us some big plays, and our WRs have stone hands all of a sudden.

The jury is still out on our D for me. I think they played well last night, came up with some huge stops, big turnover by Lemon, but at the same time, USC's offense was suppose to be really bad. They have a sophmore QB(more int's than TDs), freshman RB, their OL gave up the most sacks in college last year, and they only had one returning WR with much experience.

All in all I think the Bible needs to go back to the drawing board and go back to the last 4 regular season games and look at what we did there and go back to that. Let RW play his style instead of turning him into a pocket passer. We have a lot of young talent that showed up last night, just have to hope these guys can keep playing well and getting more experience and that our experienced players(Baker, WRs, OL) can get back to form.

Also, George Bryan needs better routes, not just 3-yard routes on 3rd down.

The next 2 games will hopefully build confidence.

9/4/2009 9:04:33 AM

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"when we did complete a pass, they were all over us before we could make a move."

yea i felt like our yards after completion were negative

9/4/2009 9:16:46 AM

I don't understand the whole deal with the coaches neutering RW's play. He's probably only here for this last year and if he gets hurt, so be it. We've got MG and he's probably not as much of a drop-off as Beck or Evans was (knowing full well this is NC State we're talking about) and we'll probably have to use him anyway so... not much to lose...

9/4/2009 9:19:39 AM

I actually don't feel too bad after watching the 4th quarter. Dropped passes were the key. I think we'll be fine, especially with our kinda friendly schedule.

I had to LOL at the sc fans chanting "SEC." Yeah, they won, but that's like us chanting "ACC" at a basketball game. Yeah, your conference is better, thanks to your hated rivals.

[Edited on September 4, 2009 at 9:21 AM. Reason : -]

9/4/2009 9:21:10 AM

Can't say the D is good just from that game. The usc offensive line was young, their RB was young, their QB went into fetal position every time there was rush, and they still moved the ball on us well for a while.

9/4/2009 9:22:26 AM

The other thing about USC fans, of course, is that they think they've seen the "real RW" in both games. Sigh.

9/4/2009 9:22:52 AM

Well, State put up 10 pts. We just gave 7 to the other team

9/4/2009 9:33:01 AM

^ No, the stifling SEC defense caused that fumble.

9/4/2009 9:36:01 AM

I just finished editing and converting the game without commercials. It's a single AVI file at just over 1.0GB

If anybody wants to pm me with any torrent info on where to host this thing that'd be great.

Might make a smaller 100mb version later on.

9/4/2009 9:42:29 AM

why would anyone want to own a copy of that pitiful game? That was probably the most boring game I've ever seen, NCSU or not

hell, was there even a play over 20 yards last night?

9/4/2009 9:45:42 AM

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"DROD900 All American 16024 Posts user info edit post last night in my drunken stupor I thought that Spurrier's timeout in the 4th quarter while we were driving and had all the momentum was a great call and might've won them the game now that I'm sober, I totally agree 9/4/2009 9:02:48 AM "

I agree it was a brilliant timeout aided by a completely boneheaded playcall on the next play by Bible.

9/4/2009 9:46:38 AM

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"why would anyone want to own a copy of that pitiful game? That was probably the most boring game I've ever seen, NCSU or not hell, was there even a play over 20 yards last night?"

I'd like to make a cut that was just all of the dropped passes to show to anyone saying it was Russell Wilson having an off night.

9/4/2009 9:56:35 AM

He was having an off night though. Not really tucking it an running like he used to.

9/4/2009 9:58:21 AM

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"I'd like to make a cut that was just all of the dropped passes to show to anyone saying it was Russell Wilson having an off night."

I will hook you up with that then. Should be lengthy? pfft.

9/4/2009 10:03:55 AM

The reason we lost this game is T.O.B. and his stupid fucking ideas. He apparently hasn't worked the the O-line or special teams much at all. They were horrible. But the worst is him forcing RW to be a pocket passer. WTF. RW is not a pocket passer nor do we have the O-line to support a pocket passer. T.O.B. is a damn moron for doing what he's done and he is the reason we lost. SO FUCK YOU T.O.B.

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"He was having an off night though. Not really tucking it an running like he used to."

RW didn't have an off night. THE FUCKING COACHES HAVE CASTRATED HIS GAME. No longer does he look at WR1, WR2, then scramble, but he looks for WR1-WR4 and then doesn't have time to get out of the pocket. He's been told to sit in the pocket and not to make things happen.

[Edited on September 4, 2009 at 10:09 AM. Reason : .]

9/4/2009 10:06:42 AM

yeah, I don't think he was off. His passes were pretty much on the money and last night just wasn't the night to try to actually look through his progression because the defense was all over him before he could think. And we've got to get rid of that swinging gate punt formation or whatever the hell it's called.

9/4/2009 10:15:34 AM

Well, right. By off I mean he wasn't playing like he used to. You can blame that on whatever. I think it had 80% to do with the coaches telling him that he shouldn't be running as much (at all) and 20% to do with the fact that, honestly, he just doesn't look the same as last year. Could just be a first game thing though.

9/4/2009 10:20:57 AM

He honestly looked like RW from the Clemson game last year -- jittery and confused. I expect he'll get it together soon, just like he did last year. I hate playing cupcakes, but maybe they'll help bring back RW's mojo

[Edited on September 4, 2009 at 10:23 AM. Reason : ]

9/4/2009 10:22:53 AM

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"^ Yeah but we had time to recover from that play. The timing of the missed face mask is what makes it more significant IMO. Had the ref not blown that call, we start that drive at the SC 35. Instead we were at mid field, got the PI call, got to the 35 and fizzled. We would have atleast been at the 20 with both calls. In terms of every play in the game, yeah the Baker fumble was the biggest, but we should have been able to recover."

dude, we still had a brand new possession w/ plenty of time and great field position. in no way was it crippling.

and we did not beat ourselves this game, south carolina beat us. they totally outclassed our offense.

9/4/2009 10:23:55 AM

i was only able to see the first and fourth quarters, and i didn't see that RW actually had time to go thru his progressions. They basically turned Norwood loose on him. I think the fumble did a psych job on the offense; what happened to Andrew Wallace on those two plays back to back? One negated a 38yd pass, and the other he jumped offsides as soon as he became set like he was full of the emotion

9/4/2009 10:24:10 AM

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"and we did not beat ourselves this game, south carolina beat us. "

Exactly. We weren't great, but damn people ... give credit where it's due. Their defense played great.

9/4/2009 10:24:53 AM

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"and we did not beat ourselves this game, south carolina beat us. they totally outclassed our offense."

I dunno, we gift-wrapped SC's only score of the game so...

9/4/2009 10:26:01 AM

they also spotted us 6 points.

9/4/2009 10:26:34 AM

WHOEVER IS #64 ON OUR OFFENSIVE LINE SHOULD NEVER SEE THE FIELD AGAIN

I think he racked up more yards in penalties than our team did on offense

fuck him

9/4/2009 10:28:35 AM

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"I can kind of understand those drops. The last one was a good defensive play and the defender ripped it out of the receiver's hands. One of the others was double coverage and I guess the receiver lost track of the ball cause the damn thing just bounced off his hands"

There were two drops that really bugged me. There was the double coverage int he end zone and then the bobble when our receiver (can't remember who) was running down the sideline.

In both cases, it was remarkable that the receivers were in place to make those catches...getting in position was the hardest part. Actually catching the ball should have been easy at that point, because both of them had it in their hands and just had to pull it in or clasp down.

9/4/2009 10:36:07 AM

It's Andrew Wallace, RS Freshman. I'll give the guy a pass considering it was(a) his first collegiate game and (b) Left tackle is a damn hard position to play – easily the toughest on the Oline. But he defintiely screwed us a few times.

9/4/2009 10:40:51 AM

^^I hope you're not talking about the Jarvis Williams attempted catch at the end of the first half. If he would've caught that, that would've just been amazing. It got tipped by a defender.

9/4/2009 11:07:44 AM