Gravis said that offering Pateev was totally independent of the deal with Favors

11/12/2008 5:20:25 PM

The 2009 recruiting classes as of signing day. There are still prospects out there that could make this list change. I've bolded the ACC schools. It was funny reading all the GT fans comments in the Atlanta-Journal Constitution articles on Favors talking about why would Favors even consider NC State and that GT's class was so great. Well look at who's rated higher. Who's the bitch now!

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/810677.html

2009 Top 25 Recruiting Classes

1 North Carolina
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Henson has a chance to be one of Roy's all-timers; solid depth with star power

John Henson (3)
Dexter Strickland (18)
Leslie McDonald (63)
Travis Wear (41)
David Wear (42)


2 Texas
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Stud wing players led by Bradley give the Horns a leg up in the Big 12

Avery Bradley (10)
Jordan Hamilton (13)
Shawn Williams (44)


3 Florida
Dave Telep's Class Notes: One of the most important signees of the Donovan Era and two solid bigs

Kenny Boynton (8)
Erik Murphy (39)
Deshawn Painter (52)


4 Villanova
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Villanova has a reputation for attracting guards but Jay Wright will love these big fellas

Maalik Wayns (26)
Mouphtauo Yarou (28)
Isaiah Armwood (31)


5 Duke
Telep's Class notes
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Two of the three best kids in NC on board and a third in their sights

Ryan Kelly (11)
Mason Plumlee (19)


6 Kansas
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Jayhawks replace Shady and Chalmers with Robinson and Johnson

Thomas Robinson (20)
Elijah Johnson (25)


7 Indiana
Dave Telep's Class Notes: The foundation class for Crean's tenure was a priority and mission accomplished

Maurice Creek (45)
Christian Watford (72)
Jordan Hulls (80)
Derek Elston (90)
Bawa Muniru
Bobby Capobianco


8 UCLA
Dave Telep's Class Notes: A potential star in Honeycutt and three bigs who are going to battle for PT

Tyler Honeycutt (21)
Anthony Stover (70)
Brendan Lane (83)
Reeves Nelson (89)


9 Kentucky
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Orton's out for the rest of the year; Hood acquisition under the radar

Daniel Orton (12)
Jon Hood (36)
G.J. Vilarino


10 Washington
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Drama filled recruitment of Gaddy ends with the hometown boys scoring big

Abdul Gaddy (9)
Clarence Trent (77)
C.J. Wilcox
Charles Garcia


11 Minnesota
Dave Telep's Class Notes: As of signing day, the Gophers landed the Big Ten's two best incoming recruits

Royce White (30)
Rodney Williams (32)
Justin Cobbs
Trevor Mbakwe


12 Connecticut
Dave Telep's Class Notes: This foundation for this class was poured two years ago; Oriakhi keeps improving

Alex Oriakhi (14)
Jamaal Coombs (81)


13 Illinois
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Heavy lifting done a long time ago with this group; Richardson, Paul are key

D.J. Richardson (66)
Brandon Paul (88)
Tyler Griffey (92)
Joseph Bertrand


14 Oklahoma
Dave Telep's Class Notes: There's something solid about this group; TMG is easy to bet on for success

Tommy Mason-Griffin (24)
Andrew Fitzgerald (85)
Kyle Hardrick
Steven Pledger


15 Marquette
Dave Telep's Class Notes: The Buzz around Milwaukee is that this group is just what the new coach ordered

Junior Cadougan (50)
Jeronne Maymon (75)
Erik Williams (95)
Dwight Buycks
Brett Roseboro


16 Oklahoma State
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Lots of guards to pick from but the heart and soul of this class is Roger Franklin

Roger Franklin (43)
Karron Johnson (49)
Torin Walker
Ray Penn
Fred Gulley
Reger Dowell


17 North Carolina State
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Richard Howell brings the lunch pail, Wood the stroke; what can Brown do for you?

Lorenzo Brown (33)
Richard Howell (51)
Scott Wood (what now GT fans?! fuck your class! :mad


18 Clemson

Telep's Class notes
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Tigers score huge with top in-stater and potential all-american; Booker underrated

Milton Jennings (23)
Devin Booker (65)
Donte Hill


19 Louisville
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Always talent heading to Pitino's place; solid mix of different style players

Rakeem Buckles (48)
Peyton Siva (54)
Stephan Van Treese
Mike Marra


20 Georgia Tech
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Hewitt has his new leader in Udofia plus an athletic big and wing options

Mfon Udofia (53)
Kammeon Holsey (78)
Glen Rice
Brian Oliver


21 Memphis
Dave Telep's Class Notes: If the jucos are as good as advertised then we underrated this bunch

Nolan Dennis (46)
Darnell Dodson
Will Coleman


22 UAB
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Cousins defines Mike Davis' signature group; Fields is a great looking sleeper

DeMarcus Cousins (6)
Adrien Coleman
Dexter Fields


23 Georgetown
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Big names on the scene dot the class; can Riley rise up and develop like Hibbert?

Hollis Thompson (34)
DaShonte Riley (57)


24 Pittsburgh
Dave Telep's Class Notes: Can you picture Taylor and Blair in the same frontcourt? Yikes, look out Big East

Dante Taylor (17)
Lamar Patterson (93)
J.J. Richardson
Talib Zanna


25 Kansas State
Dave Telep's Class Notes: The resurrection of Wally Judge was one of the comeback stories of the year

Wally Judge (16)
Rodney McGruder
Nick Russell
Jordan Henriquez

11/12/2008 6:20:37 PM

Quote :

"5 Duke Telep's Class notes Dave Telep's Class Notes: Two of the three best kids in NC on board and a third in their sights"

I dont like that at all

Nope, not one bit.

11/12/2008 6:36:01 PM

Eh, Duke will have to make up a lot of ground. Wall has a good relationship with Lowe and Calipari.

11/12/2008 6:46:44 PM

I do not doubt the chance of "NC State shit" happening.

11/13/2008 7:37:58 AM

Where are our LOIs?

Annoying really.

11/13/2008 8:00:48 AM

Tech has kids named Brian Oliver and Glen Rice? Oh shit, we'd be screwed if this were 1989.

11/13/2008 9:08:58 AM

Quote :

"Glen Rice Brian Oliver "

Did GT really recruit another Brian Oliver? Is this the son of the Brian Oliver from the Kenny Anderson-Dennis Scott-Oliver Lethal Weapon 3?

Also did they recruit Glen Rice jr as well??



[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 9:19 AM. Reason : ^ beat me to it]

11/13/2008 9:18:40 AM

^^^ Wood signed.

11/13/2008 9:25:48 AM

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081113/

NCSU Top 5 Class with either Wall or Favors

NCSU #1 Class with both

11/13/2008 11:58:14 AM

I refuse to get my hopes up. I just won't do it and get my hopes stomped and pissed on again... but I'm giddy just thinking about it.

I'm surprised Uconn isn't on the could be Top 5 list. If Durand Scott commits, they'd have the #'s 21, 41 and 65 in the class filling their only available scholarships...

[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 12:16 PM. Reason : rivals]

11/13/2008 12:15:54 PM

i think we'll get wall

11/13/2008 12:19:49 PM

I think we a decent season, not win the ACC or anything, but a solid season for what we have to just help the confidence of Favors and Wall.

I think both are going to wait and see how the season shakes out and I've read that Wall is trying to make sure his grades/SATs line-up with all the schools he's considering. So I think these kids are definitely doing the right thing for themselves.

I'm a long-time State fan, so I know not to get my hopes up too much. But I think we have as good a shot with both as anyone else does, just gonna have to hope in the end they pick the good guys.

11/13/2008 12:51:45 PM

I wonder when they are expected to announce their commitments, or when they are expected to commit. I know Wall is visiting Memphis on Saturday. Maybe Favors will commit earlier since he already visited UGA and GT.

11/13/2008 3:42:39 PM

What's the deal on Lo Brown and company...did we get LOIs?

11/13/2008 4:26:30 PM

^I haven't heard anything. Someone on here said Wood signed, but I haven't seen anything to confirm it.

What are they waiting for!?!?

11/13/2008 4:42:17 PM

Lorenzo Brown wont do anything until Monday when he has a PC with his friend

11/13/2008 4:56:11 PM

^Who's his 'friend'? Howell?

11/13/2008 5:12:37 PM

probably a HS teammate.... Howell signed at the same time his buddy/classmate did (Ari Stewart - Wake)

11/13/2008 5:33:54 PM

Here you go:

http://www.chronicle-tribune.com/articles/2008/11/13/sports/doc491bb09e64a36554881109.txt

Wood's letter of intent

11/13/2008 6:20:42 PM

^Nice. It'll be interesting to see how Wood's senior year goes and if he lives up to the hype of "shooting better than reddick at this stage" hype.

Quote :

"Howell signed at the same time his buddy/classmate did"

So Howell is official? Anyone got a link?

[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 6:26 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2008 6:25:51 PM

I can't find the article link, but I read that Scott Wood is already Marion's all-time leader in 3-point field goals and shooting percentage and he still has a season to play. Never hurts to have a guy who can knock down the three.

11/13/2008 6:36:55 PM

Quote :

"http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/810677.html 2009 Top 25 Recruiting Classes "

what happened to the whole #6 thing?

11/13/2008 6:51:29 PM

^that was on espn

11/13/2008 6:53:27 PM

Well there's also been some big commitments during that time. Those rankings came out in late August. Kenny Boyton committed to Florida, Abdul Gaddy switched to Washington after Olson announced his retirement, Avery Bradley and Jordan Hamilton chose Texas, Ryan Kelly chose Duke, Daniel Orton chose Kentucky, Wally Judge committed to Kansas State, Thomas Robinson and Elijah Johnson committed to Kansas, Tyler Honeycutt decided on UCLA, and Rodney Williams committed to Minnesota. Those are all players that Scout has listed as higher than Lorenzo Brown (I don't agree with a couple of those being higher, but whatever). There were also other guys that committed to programs during that span and boosted those teams' rankings.

[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 8:47 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2008 8:30:21 PM

^x4 drunktyper posted the link that mentioned Wood having the school career and single-season 3-point shooting records just two posts above yours.

11/13/2008 8:43:00 PM

Have any of you looked at the "Derrick Favors please go to NC State" and the "John Wall please go to NC State" groups on Facebook? WTF is Cody Hawkins, the QB for Colorado, doing in the group for John Wall? Why does he want Wall to go to State?

11/13/2008 8:56:42 PM

interesting comments from Lowe about our signings. Howell is signing Monday with his teammate, but Lowe mentioned that Brown and Wood were signed but that there were others and they were optimistic there were no problems with them.

11/14/2008 1:24:34 PM

if there is someone else signing, it can't be wall or favors because they already said they'd wait. well, favors' coach said he "may or may not wait" but i'm not getting my hopes up.

11/14/2008 1:30:02 PM

evidently Wall and Favors are getting interviewed today(?) on ESPNU sometime between 4-6 for their signing day special

11/14/2008 1:42:54 PM

Quote :

"We're very excited about it. Lorenzo Brown is going to be a great addition to our ballclub. Scott Wood is an excellent shooter; he's going to provide some of that outside shooting for us. And we have some others, and I can't really talk about it, but we're optimistic there's no problems with other people. But those two gentlemen are signed and they're ready to go. "

-Lowe

11/14/2008 1:45:35 PM

^ I would be careful reading into that statement that somehow we've got some silent verbals that are going to sign

Lowe got in a little bit of heat talking about CJ Leslie who has not signed a LOI...coaches can't talk about recruits who aren't yet signed, so it may be that he was talking about Richard Howell...but that still doesn't explain the plural of "others"...

probably nothing to see here

11/14/2008 1:50:19 PM

i just want to know one way or another so i can stop clicking on this thread every few hours and seeing chit-chat shit instead of reading recruiting "news"

11/14/2008 2:28:28 PM

recruiting is pretty much 99% chit-chat and 1% legitimate news. it's a fickle business.

11/14/2008 2:38:31 PM

Quote :

"Have any of you looked at the "Derrick Favors please go to NC State" and the "John Wall please go to NC State" groups on Facebook? WTF is Cody Hawkins, the QB for Colorado, doing in the group for John Wall? Why does he want Wall to go to State?"

Jacorry Harris, the freshman Miami QB is in the "Derrick Favors Please go to NC State" group as well, lol. I don't get it

11/14/2008 3:18:30 PM

all those people from other schools are thinking, "damn...those fools need some help."

11/14/2008 3:35:59 PM

Recap of State basketball classes

name - scout/rivals star rating - position - position rank if available - other schools that were interested including known offers in italics

2002
Cameron Bennerman - ****/*** - 23 - SG - Tennessee, Virginia, Clemson
Dom Mejia - ****/** - SG - Rutgers, Seton Hall, Connecticut, Penn State, Drexel, Hartford, Siena, Boston College, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Illinois, LaSalle, Marquette, Massachusetts
Justin Flatt - ***/*** - SG - WVU, Clemson, Arkansas State, Vanderbilt, Virginia, Fairfield, Ohio State, Penn State, Florida
Adam Simons - ***/ - C - Wake Forest, Richmond, North Carolina


2003
Engin Atsur - /*** - SG - Texas, Siena, Clemson, Georgia Tech
Mike O'Donnell - **/*** - PG - North Carolina State, Butler, Furman, Holy Cross, New Orleans, Old Dominion, South Alabama, Stetson, Florida, Florida State, West Virginia


2004
Cedric Simmons - *****/**** - PF - 4/17 - Clemson, Wake Forest
Andrew Brackman - ****/*** - PF/SF (for some reason Rivals had him listed as a SF ) - 7/23 - Arizona, Dayton, Miami (OH), Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech
Gavin Grant - ****/*** - SF - 14/30 - Pitt, Richmond, Rutgers, St. John's


2005
Brandon Costner - *****/**** - PF/SF - 6/9 - Georgia Tech, Indiana, Kansas, Michigan, Seton Hall, UCLA, Virginia, Connecticut, Saint Joseph's (PA)
Courtney Fells - ****/***** - SG - 9/7 - Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, FSU, Georgia Tech, Kansas
Ben McCauley - ****/**** - PF - 24/22 - Cincinnati, Penn State, Pitt, Virginia, Xavier, Duquesne, Maryland, Ohio State, Stanford


2006
Dennis Horner - ***/**** - SF - 22/19 - Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Notre Dame, Villanova, Wake Forest
Bartosz Lewandowski - ** - C - San Diego

The 2006 class would have looked a lot better had Larry Davis not defected to Seton Hall and Dan Werner not defected to Florida after Sendek went to ASU. The funny thing is they would have gotten a ton more playing time had they come to State, but Werner does now get to say that he was on a National Championship team even though he didn't ever see the floor.


2007
JJ Hickson - *****/***** - C/PF - 3/2 - Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Georgetown, Illinois, Kentucky, Miami (Fl), Tennessee
Tracy Smith - ****/**** - PF - 18/10 - Alabama, Charlotte, LSU, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech, USC, Memphis, Tennessee, Louisville
Javier Gonzalez - ***/*** - PG - 30 - LSU, Duquesne, Hofstra, Washington State (I actually heard that they had offered), South Florida, UCF, SMU, VCU, Florida
Johnny Thomas - ***/*** - SF - 40 - Miami (FL), George Washington, Old Dominion, Wake Forest (supposedly they were about to offer right before he committed), Clemson, FSU, Virginia Tech, Xavier


2008
CJ Williams - ***/*** - SF - 28/25 - Clemson, South Carolina, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, ECU, VCU, WCU, Miami
Julius Mays - ***/*** - SG - 34 - Indiana, Xavier(these don't show up on Scout but I found information elsewhere that indicated that these schools had offered), Ball State, Western Michigan, Purdue, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Penn State, Cincinnati


2009
Lorenzo Brown - ****/**** - SG/PG - 8/7 - UConn, Florida, Memphis, Oregon, Georgia, LSU, Texas, Auburn, Georgia Tech, Miami (Fl), Ohio State, Tennessee, UAB
Richard Howell - ****/**** - PF - 19/15 - Georgia, Marquette, Oregon, Michigan State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Auburn, Georgia Tech, Texas, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Memphis
Scott Wood - ***/*** - SG - 29/29 - Virginia Tech, Miami (FL) (these two schools did offer even though Scout doesn't show it), Butler, St. Louis, San Jose State, Western Michigan, Pitt, Purdue, Xavier, Southern Illinois, Baylor, Dayton, Illinois


2010
CJ Leslie - *****/**** - PF - 4/12
Ryan Harrow - ***/*** (Harrow could easily rise to a 4* guy in the next year) - PG - Wake Forest, Auburn, Chattanooga, Kentucky, Marquette, Florida, Clemson



I think Sidney's recruiting is looking pretty good overall compared to where we were just a few years ago. The 04 and 05 classes should have been great for us, but Simmons and Brackman only playing for 2 years hurt. And well the 05's could still leave an impact this year if they play with the passion that we have seen in the past.

11/15/2008 10:15:30 AM

not ncsu related, but fsu picked up a 5-star SG who's ranked #22 in the '09 class

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2652680

11/15/2008 11:18:30 AM

^^ Werner had a nasty game last night. anybody else watch it? he'll be the leading scorer for the Gators this year

11/15/2008 11:32:28 AM

GoPack has a story about our three '09 signees

[Edited on November 16, 2008 at 12:18 PM. Reason : so far...]

11/16/2008 12:17:40 PM

Quote :

"evidently Wall and Favors are getting interviewed today(?) on ESPNU sometime between 4-6 for their signing day special"

Did this happen?

Maybe already mentioned, but Rivals ranks our '09 class at #13

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=875539

[Edited on November 16, 2008 at 7:30 PM. Reason : :]

11/16/2008 7:23:12 PM

i dont think wall interviewed.. he was in memphis all weekend.

they did interview favors but apparently it was a boring ass interview.

11/16/2008 8:31:29 PM

How many schollys do we have left to offer for the '09 class?

11/17/2008 9:21:37 AM

it's a secret.

11/17/2008 9:33:46 AM

^^10

11/17/2008 9:36:32 AM

Quote :

"How many schollys do we have left to offer for the '09 class?"

this has been answered so many times. please do a little research.
hell, its been discussed in this thread at least 10 times

11/17/2008 10:21:22 AM

^^^^enough schollys, the staff isnt stupid, they would not offer more than they knew they had.... unless they were unc football that is

[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM. Reason : ]

11/17/2008 10:31:29 AM

I know, I know, the scholly situation has been discussed multiple times. But I still haven't seen a definitive explanation of how we'd get 2 more players for '09 without someone transferring. Who would transfer? I don't know how scholly's really work, can one be revoked if the coaches find someone better?


[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 10:53 AM. Reason : ]

11/17/2008 10:47:01 AM

simonn

Quote :

"we currently have 12 scholarship players if you count simon harris. you are allowed 13. we're definitely losing fells, mccauley, harris we're potentially losing costner, thomas... whoever else is suspect to transfer. plus we have an open spot anyway. so that's anywhere from four to six open scholarships, not including any tranfers, although i don't think we'll see any transfers. we have three commits."

11/17/2008 5:31:03 PM

man i said it was a secret.

11/17/2008 5:39:32 PM