http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/injury-bug-strikes-another-us-forward

Eddie Johnson out with a hamstring injury???? No he isn't our best forward right now, but at some point the injuries need to stop, so we can actually have 11 guys who are healthy enough to play.

5/13/2010 3:11:02 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/05/13/davies.blamesochaux.ap/index.html

FUCKING FRENCH!

5/13/2010 9:34:20 AM

I already said it. It was hose job that our moron of a coach wasn't able to see past.

What I want to know is if a club team has the ability to prevent a player from playing for their national team. I thought that ultimately, it is not their decision. I though there was a precedent to this, but I can't remember it for the life of me.

5/13/2010 9:50:48 AM

http://theshinguardian.com/2010/05/13/charlie-davies-anger-at-fc-sochaux/

Quote :

"I find it “curious” that the US would reference a letter from Sochaux in making their decision when their doctors are in constant contact with Davies and the decision is, exclusively, US Soccer’s."

I was right and I'll say it again. FUCK THE FRENCH AND FUCK BOB BRADLEY.

5/13/2010 11:05:12 AM

Quote :

"What I want to know is if a club team has the ability to prevent a player from playing for their national team. I thought that ultimately, it is not their decision. I though there was a precedent to this, but I can't remember it for the life of me."

Clubs are required to release players for official FIFA international match days. If the game isn't played on an official FIFA international match day then the national team coaches have to beg the clubs for players, or just take the shit players that won't see playing time with their club anyway.

5/13/2010 11:50:16 AM

i dont think it gets any more official international match day than the world cup...

[Edited on May 13, 2010 at 11:53 AM. Reason : l]

5/13/2010 11:53:13 AM

Quote :

"i dont think it gets any more official international match day than the world cup..."

No doubt about that. On big soccer I did read something about the clubs have the rights to the players until the season is over. With that being said, Eddie Johnson made the 30 man roster and then got hurt in a game for his club team the next day.

[Edited on May 13, 2010 at 11:59 AM. Reason : .]

5/13/2010 11:58:49 AM

If one of the players on the provisional list gets injured, then the team is allowed a replacement, correct? Someone needs to break the shit out of Robbie Findley's leg or something...

5/13/2010 6:36:33 PM

^Or good bye Eddie Johnson, hello Charlie Davies!

5/13/2010 6:44:56 PM

Yeah but they said he would only be out for about 2 weeks. I would much rather have EJ there simply for the sake of experience and depth. There's absolutely no way 2 or 3 of those forwards will ever make the team. It's a waste just having them there.

5/13/2010 7:04:24 PM

^Then bring Davies in.

5/13/2010 8:10:21 PM

Findley showing his worth tonight against Houston...

...missing a breakaway


he did score earlier in the game but it was a free header

5/13/2010 10:33:02 PM

Pretty funny Altidore Sportscenter commercial, didn't see it posted in here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27iQdCffxFk

didn't see this on the last page...

Quote :

"You gotta be kidding me, asking for a "link" like you've never heard any Adu hype."

That's my bad on this one, I read it as "as many of you would have liked to believe" not "many would have liked you to believe." Anybody who believed any of that was a dumb ass though.

Quote :

"The dude is just not that good. It was all hype."

... comes off to me as "fuck Adu he sucks" in the context of discussing his place on the USMNT for the future. So you're contradicting yourself when he say he was "all hype" but then say he has "raw ability to become a prominent player." So which is it? If he has raw ability, wouldn't an attitude change/coaching/proper training make him a good player?

5/14/2010 11:35:27 AM

I think you misinterpreted. I said he is "just not that good". I meant for "that" = the amount of goodness he was hyped to be. Perhaps it should have been italicized. He was never a Pele Jr and never will be. Then I go on to say he's 20 years old and can still become a better player, but I would not put him in the national team now. So in a way I'm still saying he's not that good, yes. Not good enough for our national team as of now.

Are you saying you disagree with that? He should be there? Who would you get rid of? I don't see how that's saying "fuck Adu he sucks".



And lulz at the ESPN commercial. I bet 80% of the nation wouldn't get it.

[Edited on May 14, 2010 at 1:49 PM. Reason : .]

5/14/2010 1:47:52 PM

saw that commercial for the first time during this morning's sportscenter
i lol'd

5/14/2010 4:15:40 PM

Quote :

"Not good enough for our national team as of now. Are you saying you disagree with that? He should be there? Who would you get rid of? I don't see how that's saying "fuck Adu he sucks"."

Okay, fair enough... I get what you're saying now.

But who knows if he's good enough for our national team as of now? How many opportunities has he had? He proved he could hang in youth competitions, he played a vital role in Olympic qualifying and in the Olympics themselves, I thought he was very good in the friendly against Spain, couldn't tell much from his games against scrubs in WCQ, and he never played in the CC last summer.

Who would I get rid of? Findley, Kljestan, Johnson, Pearce, Rogers. Bradley wants to talk about being in-form and none of those guys are at the moment (in MLS!) except for Johnson but I've had enough of him with the national team. He's had his chances with the US and he never shows up. Those guys are never going to make a difference on the national stage and Adu, based on making a difference for various levels of national teams in the past, MIGHT. Sure, it might not make a difference for this summer's World Cup but I don't get why Bradley wants to trot out these same fuck faces only to have nothing to show for it. At least Adu would get more experience training and preparing with the best players our country has to offer instead of maybe getting a minute here and there in some friendly against some crappy team.

It's not a big deal but I don't think he should be judged by not living up to everybody else's expectations. He's still a better player than Kljestan or Rogers will ever be, in my opinion.

[Edited on May 14, 2010 at 5:39 PM. Reason : .]

5/14/2010 5:38:31 PM

Yeah, maybe he would be on par with Kljestan or Rogers, but I doubt either of those guys make the team. He's never done anything to prove he's significantly better than those two. The reason they're at the camp is because Bradley has a hard on for them, especially Kljestan, not because they have any soccer merit. Pearce is up for an entirely different position, as are Findley and Johnson (strikers as opposed to attacking midfielders). From what I've seen even Johnson is still better (despite choking on the big stage) than Adu, not to mention he's playing a position where we have absolutely nothing on the depth chart. Like I said before, would you take Adu in place of Donovan, Dempsey, Bradley, or Feilhaber? I sure as hell wouldn't.

When it comes to Adu, from Bradley's perspective, I think he sees the defensive liability that he is. If he was a more threatening player, it might be a trade off that you're willing to make. I don't think he's at that point, yet.

This is the World Cup. It's not a place to cultivate talent. It's a place where you bring people in who can impact your team. As of now I'd group Adu in with Kljestan and Rogers. Fringe players who, even if they made the team, probably wouldn't see any time anyway.

5/14/2010 6:41:02 PM

I'm not surprised with adu not making the team, but the last couple of times he played with the US, he hadn't played in like 2 years at his club. So its obvious why he wasn't playing well. Now that he has some match practice and has played well for a european team throughout the season, he must be better.

Adu has a shit ton more upside than kjlestan and all those other crappy mids. He has shown on every level that he's the type of player that we're missing, someone who will create and take on defenders. I don't see the harm in having him on the bench. He would be a really good spark off the bench if we're down.

5/14/2010 6:53:49 PM

^^ yeah, so if you're bringing guys that will impact the team, why would you bring in Kljestan, Pearce, Johnson, etc when it's obvious they won't? And since we're bringing 30 guys and these fringe players won't make a roster, why not bring in Adu?


No, I wouldn't take Adu in place of all those guys but that's not the point. The point is the other guys have no reason to get another a chance to make it - they haven't done it in the past and in their current form, they're not going to do it in this camp. When has Adu just flat out proved he wasn't worth it for the national team? He hasn't yet so I think he deserves an opportunity instead of those hacks.

Taking 4 forwards just to have 4 forwards is dumb. And I guess I should have included Bedoya in the list of people I would have taken Adu over because seriously, what the hell? He may end up being awesome eventually but is there ANY chance he'll make the final roster? Any more than Adu would've had?

[Edited on May 14, 2010 at 8:52 PM. Reason : .]

5/14/2010 8:51:46 PM

Drop Conor for Adu

5/14/2010 9:03:07 PM

conor didn't make the roster suprisingly

5/14/2010 9:09:17 PM

it's sad to say, but I would have rather seen Casey than Kljestan/Rogers/Findley because at least he's scored some big goals for us before

5/14/2010 9:11:29 PM

yea conor sucks, but kjlestan and some of the others have been downright horrible when they played with the us. The only reason kjlestan made it is because bob bradley still plays fifa 08 or whichever one he was on the cover of.

5/14/2010 9:16:35 PM

or he saw that MLS commercial where it says virtuoso for him

5/14/2010 9:17:48 PM

Quote :

"And since we're bringing 30 guys and these fringe players won't make a roster, why not bring in Adu?"

I already told you why. Sweatpants has a hard on for these guys. I don't mind giving him a shot over them. At the end of the day it's all the same, he's going to barely make the team and not play or just not make the team. I would rather see him there than Kljestan if only because he has more years ahead of him, but I'm not going to stress about bench players. You've admitted he wouldn't play in place of those four midfielders, and those are the guys that he would have to bump off. Again it seems like you're proposing I'm all "Fuck Freddy" when my stance is more "Freddy who?". I really don't care about the fringe. I hope Adu plays his ass off for his club within the next four years and ends up in the mix for a starting job. Then I will start caring about Freddy Adu.

Also, I disagree about Bedoya. I think his stock is rising. It may have been a little bit early, but from what I've seen of him he looks like he can hang on the international level. FWIW, I can't say that I've seen better from Adu either.

5/15/2010 12:23:17 AM

im not sure why you guys are comparing rogers with adu and klestjan...rogers is an out and out winger and hes on this 30 man squad because we have no good wingers. the other 2 play pretty much the same position though so it makes sense to compare them

5/15/2010 12:49:15 AM

I'm not comparing them individually, I'm comparing the worth of using a roster spot on them.



yeah, I know why Bradley picked them too and that's kind of my problem (because other than Davies, the rest of the 20-22 picked itself so how tough was it exactly for him to pick 30 guys). I'm not all worried about the fringe either but I would hope our coaching staff is and that's why this move is completely short-sighted and another example of why I don't think Bradley should be around much longer

I didn't mean to hate on Bedoya because I know absolutely nothing about him. But what have you seen from him? How is Adu owning a U21 WC or being a key part of the Olympic team not worth more than a couple of caps from Bedoya?

5/15/2010 12:11:11 PM

Bedoya held his own against the Netherlands. He was challenging the likes of Schneider and drew a free kick (inches from being a penalty). He seemed to be in the right position most of the time, which is more than I can say about a lot of our guys. However, I did point out it may have been to early to jump on the Bedoya bandwagon. He has been playing a full 90 minutes a game since early in the season too, which is noteworthy.

U21 doesn't speak too much to me. Tournaments, in general, don't. I think Adu screwed himself by choosing to go to a club like Benfica. You may be forgetting just up until a few months ago the guy had a long spell on three clubs' benches. If he can continue good form with Aris he should definitely get some looks in the future. Too little too late is probably the best way to describe his position.

And I'm done with the Adu talk. I want to focus on people who will be at the World Cup and continue to complain about Davies and Sweatpants.

5/15/2010 7:06:13 PM

Quote :

"Tournaments, in general, don't."

Oh well. I like to give players credit for performing well for the national team when they do, wherever that may be.

Quote :

"I think Adu screwed himself by choosing to go to a club like Benfica."

What's wrong with Benfica? The mistake was Monaco/Belenenses and the way he handled it.

Quote :

"You may be forgetting just up until a few months ago the guy had a long spell on three clubs' benches."

No, I didn't forget. And Oneywu says hi.

5/15/2010 7:27:42 PM

seems to me he made the mistake to go to benfica when he clearly wasnt good enough to play there.

what does onyewu say hi to? pretty much up until the injury he was a regular starter with liege and then milan signed him...whether or not he was gonna be a regular starter there, how many other us players can you say signed for ac milan??



[Edited on May 15, 2010 at 7:31 PM. Reason : edit]

5/15/2010 7:29:02 PM

hi to being in-form and getting games and all that horseshit


And I'm not hating on Oneywu for the same reason you shouldn't hate on Adu. Prominent European club says, "hey we think you're good and we're going to pay you a lot of money but we can't guarantee your playing time," do you really expect them to say, "Nah fuck off I'm going to go to Belgium instead"

there's more than "damn I better go somewhere where I can get a lot of games under my belt so Bob fucking Bradley will think I'm in form." It's all about getting paid first

and secondly, what did you want Adu to do instead? Stay in Salt Lake? Like that would have been a better option than going to a club like Benfica?

[Edited on May 15, 2010 at 7:39 PM. Reason : .]

5/15/2010 7:34:09 PM

^^

Pretty much what I would've said. Dude was a brick wall at Standard and basically willed himself a Milan contract. He's been injured most of the time at Milan, so who knows if he would have ever gotten onto the field. I'm not so sure it was a great idea to go to Milan, but Nesta's 36 and prone to injury, so he might get to see some of the field if he can stay fit himself.

^

I think the difference is that Gooch played into a spot on Milan while Benfica took a chance on a really good prospect. I think you're trying to compare apples and oranges. Gooch was already national team caliber talent. Adu was upcoming. Apples and oranges.


*OnYEwu

[Edited on May 15, 2010 at 7:45 PM. Reason : .]

5/15/2010 7:41:21 PM

he shouldve never played in the mls to begin with. sorry, but even the best 14 yr old in brazil is gonna struggle and get beat up in the mls...thats just a stupid league to play in if youre smaller or gifted in the attacking department.

5/15/2010 7:45:23 PM

I said I'm gonna quit dat Freddy talk.

BUT I LIED.

[/Adu]

5/15/2010 7:46:57 PM

lol

5/15/2010 7:49:28 PM

... brought up Gooch to say that being in-form and getting games is not that big of a deal in terms of a roster spot. He hasn't played a game since October. But whatever, let's drop the Adu issue after I respond to this

Quote :

"I think the difference is that Gooch played into a spot on Milan while Benfica took a chance on a really good prospect. I think you're trying to compare apples and oranges. Gooch was already national team caliber talent. Adu was upcoming. Apples and oranges."

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, as it pertains to this discussion. who cares about their established reps with national teams? Adu wanted a higher level of training/competition (and more money) so he went to Benfica. The decision to go wasn't flawed, it was his attitude/work ethic when he got there that forced him out to other bad situations, which made it even worse

Quote :

"thats just a stupid league to play in if youre smaller or gifted in the attacking department."

hasn't hurt Dempsey or Donovan

[Edited on May 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM. Reason : I can't read... fuck ]

anywho... I was just going back and reading old US soccer posts/threads and how we were hating on Johnson like 3 years ago, how the fuck is he still around

[Edited on May 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM. Reason : johnson]

5/15/2010 7:54:57 PM

Smart move Bob! I know Casey sent us to the World Cup with 2 goals vs Honduras, but he totally blew a header vs DC United in the first half that a 5 year old could score on.

5/15/2010 8:33:17 PM

I'm pumped to see the Revs get raped by Benefica F.C. on Wednesday.. my first game this season.

5/15/2010 11:02:25 PM

http://nononsenseboysusa.com/

essential website for lulz

Quote :

"NNB Question of the Week: Where are our Heroes playing professional soccer? There are enough umlauts in the team names to create a trail from here to South Africa. Michael Bradley plays for has been kidnapped by a pre-historic monster named Borussia Mönchengladbach. Come on fellas, this can’t be better than the MLS."

I almost cried I was laughing so hard.

[Edited on May 16, 2010 at 3:27 AM. Reason : .]

5/16/2010 3:23:56 AM

hahah thanks for that link, some serious gold in there

5/16/2010 10:19:42 AM

Can't forget the orange wedges.

5/16/2010 12:12:18 PM

Double post, but this is worth it.

Quote :

"The May Day marches are paying immediate dividends. We have 9 defenders, 12 midfielders, and only 6 forwards on the roster. Seems like a timid, European approach. Did we bring only 6 Daisy Cutters to Iraq? Of course not, and we won the shit out of that. We recommend revising the roster to include 6 defenders, 9 forwards, and 12 super-forwards."

5/16/2010 12:15:14 PM

The soccer gods must hate the USA. Now someone from our U-17 national team who signed with Toronto FC has to retire because of a medical condition.

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog/sow_experts/post/17-year-old-Zac-Herold-forced-to-retire-before-f?urn=sow,241590

This World Cup needs to start and end before anyone else gets into trouble.

5/17/2010 11:35:30 PM

man...that's something you would never wish on your enemy. I hope he had a bit of money saved and can get back to school.

5/18/2010 9:57:49 AM

^^ double sucks. he could drop dead at any moment, just more so if he exercises.

5/18/2010 10:56:45 AM

^How will he stay healthy, if he isn't allowed to exercise? I wonder if he will be allowed to even go golfing? This probably means no Nintendo Wii, Dance Dance Revolution, NES Power Pad, or anything else that is enjoyable. Now he'll have to watch the junk food, and my guess is there will probably be some sort of alcohol restriction.

5/18/2010 12:07:20 PM

USA v Czech Republic 7:30 ESPN/HD/3.com

5/25/2010 12:02:46 PM

I thought it was at 8

get ready for a MLS audition... chatter amongst soccer writers is that established starters (Donovan, Dempsey, Bradley, Jozy) will be in street clothes tonight

5/25/2010 12:33:38 PM

^ The game probably starts at 8, with ESPN providing a half-hour of Alexi Lalas spewing diarrhea pregame.

5/25/2010 1:00:57 PM

----------------Johnson----Buddle--------------------

Beasley-------Edu-----------Torres----------Holden

Bornstein-----Onyewu---Goodson-----Cherundolo

-------------------------Guzan-------------------------


I'm actually kind of excited to see Edu/Torres and I'm curious to see how fit Holden looks but the rest of the lineup is pretty

Donovan, Dempsey, Howard, Bocanegra, DeMerit and Altidore, AND Bradley and Feilhaber not in uniform

[Edited on May 25, 2010 at 7:13 PM. Reason : locks not even dressed]

[Edited on May 25, 2010 at 7:17 PM. Reason : two more]

5/25/2010 7:07:11 PM