jesus, these guys need to change their maxi pads.

2/9/2012 4:31:25 PM

And they still can't figure out why everyone hates them so much.

[Edited on February 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM. Reason : k]

2/9/2012 5:50:21 PM

Have they already forgotten they were in the NIT 2 years ago?

2/9/2012 5:53:43 PM

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"Will UNC submit a formal complaint with the ACC for the sorry officiating last night? Blatant traveling, Zeller called for fouling Henson, Zeller flying forward like something from the Exorcist, and the phantom block by Henson just to name a few. Or will we just take it? I hope not."

2/9/2012 8:25:27 PM

I thought they like to take it.

2/9/2012 8:37:24 PM

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"I think it is interesting that if you look at the players and what schools they are going to, and 3 are going to a school that has done absolutely nothing in a long time, well it just smells a little fishy. Just my take. It would be like Boston College getting 3, that is all I am saying. Sometimes schools get a bump from an NCAA tournament run, but State, what have they done? Dude must be a heck of a "recruiter". "

2/9/2012 9:18:47 PM

^lol

2/9/2012 9:20:16 PM

haha, warren's dad played at state, lewis committed to lowe when he wasn't really well known, and purvis was a local guy. it's not like we pulled kids from california.

2/9/2012 9:21:33 PM

It's the only explanation

2/9/2012 9:21:50 PM

Closed the tab already, and I can't spend more than 60 seconds at a time on that site, but by the first reply Moo U and the burger game were getting shit on hard. Neil Fingleton was mentioned several times.

2/9/2012 9:23:06 PM

Thought he was talking about Baylor until the last sentence... surely they're not afraid of their non-rivals bringing in some good players...

2/9/2012 9:23:37 PM

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"First and foremost - congrats to Duke for winning. I hate you Rivers, but you deserve all the credit in the world for draining that shot as a Freshman in our house over a 7 footer with no time on the clock when your own team-mate is yelling at you to drive. Now that I have that out of the way... I was at the game. This is not to brag, but I say it b/c it's relevant to my post. Another thing that’s relevant, I’m a talented B2B salesperson. Meaning, I can say things to people, or give them a look, or ask them a question that ultimately generates the desired action that I’m looking for, out of them. Again not bragging, but relevant here. Watching Duke on TV is not the same as watching them in person. Their entire team and staff is trained how to “sell” to the referees. In my business world I don’t say ‘manipulate’ I say “sell,” it makes me feel better. But in short – I’m confident that I could get referees to give my team favorable treatment given 2 hours on a sideline. Not bragging, but I’m good at it and I know how to do it. Guess who else knows how to do this REALLY well? That’s right, K is very very very good and I wish I could hire him on my sales team. So, why does K “sell” to the referees? Is he a cheater or an awful bad horrible person? No, he is a winner and he’s found a way to get an edge and help his team win. K learned a long time ago that referees will provide 'make up calls' when he sells to them, and thousands of refs have positively reinforced this over the years. More recently, he's indoctrinated his staff and players to this mantra and it's abundantly clear when you watch them in person. ESPECIALLY when they are behind or in trouble or against an opponent they cannot beat. They need an edge and they use these tactics, and they do it very well. So, hats off to Duke for finding an edge and exploiting it. Honestly, it reminds me of 4 Corners, we found a loophole in the game that allowed us to beat teams that were better than us. But, I think we can all agree amongst friends, 4 corners temporarily hurt the game of college basketball. Winning 10 – 8 or 7 – 5 was not really proving we were the better team. So a rule was put in place to stop teams from using 4 Corners (i.e. the shot clock). Why in the heck hasn't someone with power (see: not us) either a) called Duke out on their ‘selling’ tactics and/or b) suggested new rules to prevent teams from doing it? Here are some examples of Duke’s sales tactics, there are many but here’s a few: -All players and staff know refs by their first name, and refer to them openly during live play and dead balls. -All players and coaches work hard to establish relationships with refs, earn their trust, learn thing about them, and they know each ref’s “style.” -During every single time-out a member of Duke’s staff is talking to a Referee. It's not always about the game, it might be about the weather or their children or cheerleaders, etc. Building rapport. Earning trust. -K knows Ref rotations, when a ref makes a questionable call, he waits for them to rotate to his sideline, and then he attacks to get his edge. He also knows what ‘attack’ method works best on which ref (some he yells, some he jokes, some he just stares, etc) -Last night, with 10 mins left, during each time out on the first horn (warning 30 seconds before you need to take court) Duke players all took the floor, fanned out and they each began talking to a ref. Is this a coincidence that all the strange calls happened with 10 mins or less to go? Quite possibly, who knows, but my question is why are we even in a position to ask this question? THIS HAS TO STOP It seems simple rules would help. We will never get them to stop flopping. Nor will we get their shooters to stop the JJ leg kick to draw a foul. But why can't we do the following: 1) No player may speak to a referee during the course of a game 2) No coach can speak to a referee unless it is during a dead ball, at midcourt, with the other coach present 3) First offense is a warning and second offense is a technical foul That’s it. You cannot talk to a ref, at all, unless you are the head coach and the other head coach is present. This removes ‘sales’ from college basketball and levels the playing field. Again, not going to start a crazy thread about refs being the reason we lost to Duke last night, because I do NOT believe that to be true. But when is College Basketball nation going to stop allowing Duke to use sales tactics to manipulate refs into getting favorable calls? This is running our game. Level the playing field and let’s play. If you don’t know what I’m referring to, then you’ve never seen Duke play a game in-person when they are behind or in threat of losing a game."

tl;dr: check the bolded part...it's this guy's proposed rule changes.

2/9/2012 9:24:18 PM

Dude dropped JUST GOT BACK FROM THE GAME and inside sales in consecutive sentences

Surely that's one of our guys

2/9/2012 9:25:19 PM

^my first thought as well lol

2/9/2012 9:26:09 PM

hahahahahaha, biggest ship of fools ever

Quote :

"Again, not going to start a crazy thread about refs being the reason we lost to Duke last night,"

and yet, thats exactly what you did

[Edited on February 9, 2012 at 9:30 PM. Reason : .]

2/9/2012 9:28:26 PM

Quote :

"Another thing that’s relevant, I’m a talented B2B salesperson. Meaning, I can say things to people, or give them a look, or ask them a question that ultimately generates the desired action that I’m looking for, out of them. Again not bragging, but relevant here."

I would punch a motherfucker in the face if he said that to me. Assuming he was being serious.



But yeah. That guy is trolling pretty hard.

Quote :

"so tuff"

2/9/2012 9:35:48 PM

^And several other posters agree with him...that's what gets me.

2/9/2012 9:39:18 PM

Quote :

"Another thing that’s relevant, I’m a talented B2B salesperson jedi. Meaning, I can say things to people, or give them a look, or ask them a question that ultimately generates the desired action that I’m looking for, out of them."

This is how I read it.

2/9/2012 11:30:49 PM

lots of dt love going on over there right now

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=8692552

2/11/2012 4:01:37 PM

Honestly surprised to see UNC fans recognizing.

2/11/2012 4:13:32 PM

that level of greatness transcends petty rivalry hate

2/11/2012 4:17:36 PM

I wish espn would've been around when DT played as well as dunking being legal.

2/11/2012 4:55:53 PM

What will they say about roy joking about suicide?

2/11/2012 5:04:11 PM

that may be the most out of place (unexpected) thread/responses I've ever seen on IC

[Edited on February 12, 2012 at 12:37 AM. Reason : ]

2/12/2012 12:37:45 AM

K is a master of "working" the officials, best there is. But when I saw Zeller taking a charge from 4 foot 7 Sam Zglinsky yesterday, that made me vomit. UNC fans have to keep quiet about Duke flopping.

2/12/2012 2:40:44 PM

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"They lost one game over a 2 yr period and beat UCLA for the title in 1974."

unc tar hole basketball knowledge...

tough to get educated at Walmart

2/12/2012 4:07:18 PM

Quote :

"The whole "grab a coin/dollar off the top of the backboard" is an anecdote that has been attributed to many players with freakish verticals, but in Thompson's case I do not believe that ever happened. I have never seen confirmed footage of ANYONE being able to do this, actually. The top of the backboard is 13 feet above the floor. Let's assume Thompson was 6'4, and let's give him a reaching height of 8'4 (reaching height is roughly about 2 feet above a player's height). That would mean he would have to jump 56 inches just to get even with the top of the backboard. Naturally, he would have to jump even higher to pick a quarter off the top of it (assuming the quarter isn't dangling over the edge). Thompson's vertical was reportedly measured at 44 inches - which I assume is either standing or a one step hop. But even with a running start, he's not getting up a full foot (or more) higher."

2/12/2012 4:21:46 PM

Quote :

"You are wrong, I personally witnessed DT do this at a summer basketball camp at Gardner Webb between my 7th and 8th grade years. Part of the money on the top was mine. I am not making this up!"

I don't know why, I just that post was funny.

And this one is

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"i'm just shocked that all of the supposed Tar Heel fans are waiting in line to sing the praises of a junkie who played for mooU. I just hope I'm missing an obvious joke here."

[Edited on February 12, 2012 at 4:45 PM. Reason : ]

2/12/2012 4:36:12 PM

look at this fucking reaching height

2/12/2012 5:57:20 PM

^^^ i'm laughing very hard at this.

2/12/2012 6:42:21 PM

That DT thread is 5 pages long and a very good read. I don't think I've ever seen that many UNC fans speak that highly of another teams player.

2/13/2012 12:39:22 PM

^agreed. i wasn't around for DT (don't think many here were) but reading that thread makes me realize how great he must have really been. very good read, imo.

2/13/2012 12:53:29 PM

2/13/2012 2:30:19 PM

^ ha, what a weak attempt to copy the speedo guy at dook.

but then again that might just be how he rolls in general being that it's chapel hill.

2/13/2012 3:16:29 PM

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=8709220

Quote :

"I notice many of you (like myself) have had it with Elmore's clear bias against our team and its players. Here is a link that will allow you to send feedback to them. I have already done so, and voiced my request in civil terms. Perhaps if enough of us send in respectful complaints, they'll listen and remove him from broadcasts involving our team. His clear bias against us is just too distracting to ignore any more. My suggestion is that your comments be brief, cordial and correct. Blowhards and screamers they'll ignore. Thoughtful, courteous and respectful feedback perhaps will be acted upon favorably .... Link: broadband.espn.go.com/espn360/watchespn/feedback "

2/16/2012 4:56:02 PM

So one out of how many announcers don't blow unc. How dare him. I shall have his job.

2/16/2012 5:17:24 PM

And yet I remember him praising them as being a legitimate Final Four team during the Miami game.

2/16/2012 5:54:19 PM

god damnit, I remember watching the Duke/UNC game a few years ago with some dumb UNC broad and she went on about how Duke's speedo guy was so tacky/classless and UNC would never do something like that. I was like

2/16/2012 7:50:35 PM

i always laugh at these type arguments

http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=8720746

2/21/2012 4:44:58 PM

^ with you on that. I think a better question to ask would be in they could stay in a game with the Euro professional teams. The answer to that is of course no, a euro pro team would probably still wipe their collective ass with them, but still it'd be a more worthwhile debate

2/21/2012 6:05:39 PM

The worst part about it is that people are still trying to defend it 4 pages later

2/21/2012 6:24:38 PM

The Elmore one cracks me up only because I've seen hundreds of butthurt State fans saying the same thing about him... every fanbase thinks everyone is out to get them.

2/21/2012 6:27:22 PM

to be fair here, len elmore did play at maryland in the early '70s... he probably does hate both state and unc.

2/21/2012 6:30:22 PM

He's never very complimentary of anyone these days. He's a crotchety old man like Billy Packer was... and God knows I miss him instead of that douche Clark Kellogg.

2/21/2012 6:32:57 PM

Kellogg is garbage. I much prefer someone I hate to someone that bores me. That's true for pretty much all facets of my life, except the dentist.

2/21/2012 6:45:35 PM

Slave Famous making me think about my life choices itt.

2/21/2012 7:29:00 PM

^^ Ah, the old "I don't care if they love me or hate me as long as they know my name" (-"Ravishing" Rick Rude, although I'm sure it was said before I read him saying it) philosophy from the fan perspective.

[Edited on February 21, 2012 at 8:31 PM. Reason : .]

2/21/2012 8:31:12 PM

regarding transfers:

Quote :

"Why transfer, only to get a chance at getting blowed out in a bowl game?"

3/12/2012 7:34:41 PM

I, for one, think Len Elmore is usually pretty good.

3/12/2012 8:18:08 PM

Quote :

"NCSU Carolina has literally the worst fans in the country. A more obnoxious and less intelligent fanbase can not be found. I, personally, would be THRILLED if we met the wolpfack tarholes in the Elite 8. Conventional wisdom says that its tough to beat a team 3 times in the same year and damn near impossible to do it 4 times, but imo that doesn't apply to the heels when it comes to NCSU. We own them."

Well except for that last part

3/18/2012 3:21:33 PM