steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
^^mine too. maybe try ABC's feed
http://abc11.com/live/ 10/22/2014 1:11:04 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
so if roy didn't know this is on dean right? 10/22/2014 1:11:37 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11086 Posts user info edit post |
I'm actually watching it on my TV now. Durr 10/22/2014 1:12:37 PM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
I'm Krallum and I approved this message.
[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 1:34 PM. Reason : lol] 10/22/2014 1:12:47 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“We found no evidence that the higher levels of the University tried in any way to obscure the facts or the magnitude of this situation,” the report said. “To the extent there were times of delay or equivocation in their response to this controversy, we largely attribute that to insufficient appreciation of the scale of the problem, an understandable lack of experience with this sort of institutional crisis and some lingering disbelief that such misconduct could have occurred at Chapel Hill.”
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/22/4255098_unc-investigation-bogus-classes.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy" |
welp10/22/2014 1:15:27 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11086 Posts user info edit post |
Is this a lot of CYA right now trying to explain why UNC did nothing before. 10/22/2014 1:16:00 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "InsideCarolina @InsideCarolina 15s15 seconds ago Wainstein report states that Crowder/Nyang'oro were "primarily motivated" by "a desire to help struggling students and student-athletes."" |
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Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bob Ley ?@BobLeyESPN 3m3 minutes ago Roy Williams' frmr academic advsr tells investigators he knew classes were fraudlent at the time, but doesn't recall whether informed coach" |
WHAT? That's the most unbelievable shit I've ever hear.10/22/2014 1:18:37 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Amanda Albright ?@amanda_albright 8m8 minutes ago Under Roy Williams, 167 men's bball players took AFAM ind studies at some point. Under Doherty, 42, under Guthridge, 17, under Smith, 54" |
DEANNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!10/22/2014 1:19:18 PM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
Haters BTFO
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 10/22/2014 1:19:33 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
LOOK, A LOT OF PAGES, NOTHING TO SEE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE DETAILS, WE'RE GOOD NOW.
[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 1:24 PM. Reason : this dude sucks a public speaking. probably part of the plan to get people not to listen] 10/22/2014 1:22:41 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
yeah unfortunately since they've said that it was all Nyangoro and Crowder then this probably won't amount to anything other than extended probation.
That's the missing link, tying it to an actual person in the athletics department. 10/22/2014 1:25:42 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
and here comes the spin
Quote : | "Andrew Carter ?@_andrewcarter 10s10 seconds ago "The story is really centered around Deborah Crowder," Wainstein says." |
10/22/2014 1:27:18 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27785 Posts user info edit post |
I find it pretty amazing how much power a glorified secretary had at UNC. 10/22/2014 1:29:48 PM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Did I hear that a football coach posted about the paper classes and good grades?
And also did I hear that GPAs in these paper classes is higher for student athletes? 10/22/2014 1:37:45 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
A FUCKING ATHLETICS COACH/MANAGER TOLD DEBORAH WHAT GRADES TO GIVE.
HOLY SHIT BRING ON THE NCAA.
[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 1:38 PM. Reason : .] 10/22/2014 1:38:33 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Stewart Mandel ?@slmandel 2m2 minutes ago The scope is so far and beyond any previously reported academic fraud case I can't even fathom what an appropriate NCAA punishment would be." |
At least we got a little bit of national media attention in our favor.10/22/2014 1:38:36 PM |
Novicane All American 15414 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A FUCKING ATHLETICS COACH/MANAGER TOLD DEBORAH WHAT GRADES TO GIVE.
HOLY SHIT BRING ON THE NCAA." |
10/22/2014 1:42:35 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11086 Posts user info edit post |
lol at these notifications to athletes to get their papers graded by Crowder before she retires
[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 1:45 PM. Reason : .] 10/22/2014 1:45:15 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
this seems pretty damning, it will be fun to see how the NCAA spins it 10/22/2014 1:48:53 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
from what ive read, that report is actually pretty damning. Among other things, it lays out how the whole thing was an athletics problem, when all the other "investigations" said it was academic. 10/22/2014 1:49:31 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
They're really trying to hammer football. Sounds like he's trying to avoid basketball as much as possible. 10/22/2014 1:49:51 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
starting to talk about basketball now 10/22/2014 1:50:48 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Wayne Walden, Roy's guy from Kansas, seems to be involved 10/22/2014 1:52:00 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Derek Medlin ?@DerekMedlin 58s59 seconds ago Wainstein: Matt Doherty explained that he didn't change any academic structure in regard to AFAM when he arrived." |
BOOM motherfuckers. Fuck Dean Smith10/22/2014 1:52:07 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Wayne Walden: "I don't remember telling them that at all"
Riiiggghhttt..... 10/22/2014 1:52:29 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
yeah really trying to keep this stink off Roy now.
So either Roy is incompetent or lying, not a good look either way. 10/22/2014 1:53:25 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't Boxill try to get Crowder's name removed from the Martin report?
(Which would also make Boxill complicit in the cover up)
[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM. Reason : .] 10/22/2014 1:56:16 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "InsideCarolina ?@InsideCarolina 11s11 seconds ago Roy Williams and Joe Holladay took steps to decrease enrollments in the AFAM paper classes." |
So did you know or not Roy? I mean if you didn't know why did you stop it?10/22/2014 1:58:08 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
glaring deficiency of oversight?
so essentially... a lack of institutional control? 10/22/2014 1:58:29 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11086 Posts user info edit post |
^boycott the schoo? 10/22/2014 1:59:09 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19621 Posts user info edit post |
Enjoy:
http://3qh929iorux3fdpl532k03kg.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/UNC-FINAL-REPORT.pdf 10/22/2014 2:01:38 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19621 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "During the Mack Brown era (1988-1997), 35 football players enrolled in AFAM independent studies.134 In the four years of Carl Torbush’s tenure (1997-2000), there were 35 football enrollments in paper classes. There were 747 enrollments in paper classes during Coach John Bunting’s tenure (2001-2006), and 181 enrollments in paper classes under Coach Butch Davis (2007-2010)." |
10/22/2014 2:03:58 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11086 Posts user info edit post |
upcoming personnel decisions 10/22/2014 2:11:41 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Folt just admitted it was an academic AND athletic scandal. They've been trying to say it was just academic forever. Wonder if that opens up the door for the NCAA to come back in with more penalties (LOIC please). 10/22/2014 2:11:50 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11086 Posts user info edit post |
9 people fired 10/22/2014 2:12:36 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
I'm still trying to figure out how you give immunity to a bunch of people for helping a report that has no merit on any legal standing.
Not saying they shouldn't have gotten a plea deal but they should have had some sort of punishment, if in fact this was all on their heads. 10/22/2014 2:13:33 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
it didn't have anything to do with the report 10/22/2014 2:16:10 PM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
If i were those students...i would demand to go back to college. Fuck mid-life crisis. 10/22/2014 2:16:52 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I mean seriously how do you expect anyone to take anything the NCAA does seriously if they dont bring the hammer down? This isnt some funneling some recruits money or what not. This is blatant academic fraud over decades. This should result in the harshest punishment even layed down by the NCAA yet noting is going to happen. Every school out there may as well do this now as the precedent has been set that nothing of any note will result. Fucking terrible! 10/22/2014 2:17:16 PM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
UNC makes a lot of $$ on basketball so bringing down a hammer on them is eh.... 10/22/2014 2:18:39 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Steve Politi ?@StevePoliti That's the spot on the wall where my UNC diploma was hanging until a few minutes ago. " |
10/22/2014 2:19:05 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
The tournament did just fine a few years back when UNC didnt make it... 10/22/2014 2:19:55 PM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
where them popcorn gifs?
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[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 2:28 PM. Reason : sdsd] 10/22/2014 2:23:57 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11086 Posts user info edit post |
10/22/2014 2:25:00 PM |
bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/23/sports/university-of-north-carolina-investigation-reveals-shadow-curriculum-to-help-athletes.html 10/22/2014 2:25:01 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
WELCOME BACK, NCAA!
[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM. Reason : a] 10/22/2014 2:25:12 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i almost forgot that this all started because Marvin Austin was an idiot on Twitter 10/22/2014 2:27:55 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Wait, what?
10/22/2014 2:29:24 PM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
10/22/2014 2:31:22 PM |