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steviewonder
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^^mine too. maybe try ABC's feed

http://abc11.com/live/

10/22/2014 1:11:04 PM

Lionheart
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so if roy didn't know this is on dean right?

10/22/2014 1:11:37 PM

scotieb24
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I'm actually watching it on my TV now. Durr

10/22/2014 1:12:37 PM

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I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 1:34 PM. Reason : lol]

10/22/2014 1:12:47 PM

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Quote :
"“We found no evidence that the higher levels of the University tried in any way to obscure the facts or the magnitude of this situation,” the report said. “To the extent there were times of delay or equivocation in their response to this controversy, we largely attribute that to insufficient appreciation of the scale of the problem, an understandable lack of experience with this sort of institutional crisis and some lingering disbelief that such misconduct could have occurred at Chapel Hill.”

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/22/4255098_unc-investigation-bogus-classes.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy"


welp

10/22/2014 1:15:27 PM

scotieb24
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Is this a lot of CYA right now trying to explain why UNC did nothing before.

10/22/2014 1:16:00 PM

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"InsideCarolina @InsideCarolina 15s15 seconds ago
Wainstein report states that Crowder/Nyang'oro were "primarily motivated" by "a desire to help struggling students and student-athletes.""


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10/22/2014 1:17:26 PM

Lionheart
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"Bob Ley ?@BobLeyESPN 3m3 minutes ago
Roy Williams' frmr academic advsr tells investigators he knew classes were fraudlent at the time, but doesn't recall whether informed coach"



WHAT? That's the most unbelievable shit I've ever hear.

10/22/2014 1:18:37 PM

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"Amanda Albright ?@amanda_albright 8m8 minutes ago
Under Roy Williams, 167 men's bball players took AFAM ind studies at some point. Under Doherty, 42, under Guthridge, 17, under Smith, 54"



DEANNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

10/22/2014 1:19:18 PM

Krallum
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Haters BTFO

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

10/22/2014 1:19:33 PM

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LOOK, A LOT OF PAGES, NOTHING TO SEE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE DETAILS, WE'RE GOOD NOW.

[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 1:24 PM. Reason : this dude sucks a public speaking. probably part of the plan to get people not to listen]

10/22/2014 1:22:41 PM

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yeah unfortunately since they've said that it was all Nyangoro and Crowder then this probably won't amount to anything other than extended probation.

That's the missing link, tying it to an actual person in the athletics department.

10/22/2014 1:25:42 PM

Lionheart
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and here comes the spin

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"Andrew Carter ?@_andrewcarter 10s10 seconds ago
"The story is really centered around Deborah Crowder," Wainstein says."

10/22/2014 1:27:18 PM

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I find it pretty amazing how much power a glorified secretary had at UNC.

10/22/2014 1:29:48 PM

slackerb
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Did I hear that a football coach posted about the paper classes and good grades?

And also did I hear that GPAs in these paper classes is higher for student athletes?

10/22/2014 1:37:45 PM

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A FUCKING ATHLETICS COACH/MANAGER TOLD DEBORAH WHAT GRADES TO GIVE.

HOLY SHIT BRING ON THE NCAA.

[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 1:38 PM. Reason : .]

10/22/2014 1:38:33 PM

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"Stewart Mandel ?@slmandel 2m2 minutes ago
The scope is so far and beyond any previously reported academic fraud case I can't even fathom what an appropriate NCAA punishment would be."


At least we got a little bit of national media attention in our favor.

10/22/2014 1:38:36 PM

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"A FUCKING ATHLETICS COACH/MANAGER TOLD DEBORAH WHAT GRADES TO GIVE.

HOLY SHIT BRING ON THE NCAA."

10/22/2014 1:42:35 PM

scotieb24
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lol at these notifications to athletes to get their papers graded by Crowder before she retires

[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 1:45 PM. Reason : .]

10/22/2014 1:45:15 PM

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this seems pretty damning, it will be fun to see how the NCAA spins it

10/22/2014 1:48:53 PM

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from what ive read, that report is actually pretty damning. Among other things, it lays out how the whole thing was an athletics problem, when all the other "investigations" said it was academic.

10/22/2014 1:49:31 PM

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They're really trying to hammer football. Sounds like he's trying to avoid basketball as much as possible.

10/22/2014 1:49:51 PM

dtownral
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starting to talk about basketball now

10/22/2014 1:50:48 PM

dtownral
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Wayne Walden, Roy's guy from Kansas, seems to be involved

10/22/2014 1:52:00 PM

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"Derek Medlin ?@DerekMedlin 58s59 seconds ago
Wainstein: Matt Doherty explained that he didn't change any academic structure in regard to AFAM when he arrived."


BOOM motherfuckers. Fuck Dean Smith

10/22/2014 1:52:07 PM

jbrick83
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Wayne Walden: "I don't remember telling them that at all"

Riiiggghhttt.....

10/22/2014 1:52:29 PM

Lionheart
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yeah really trying to keep this stink off Roy now.

So either Roy is incompetent or lying, not a good look either way.

10/22/2014 1:53:25 PM

dtownral
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Didn't Boxill try to get Crowder's name removed from the Martin report?

(Which would also make Boxill complicit in the cover up)

[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM. Reason : .]

10/22/2014 1:56:16 PM

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"InsideCarolina ?@InsideCarolina 11s11 seconds ago
Roy Williams and Joe Holladay took steps to decrease enrollments in the AFAM paper classes."


So did you know or not Roy? I mean if you didn't know why did you stop it?

10/22/2014 1:58:08 PM

dtownral
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glaring deficiency of oversight?

so essentially... a lack of institutional control?

10/22/2014 1:58:29 PM

scotieb24
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^boycott the schoo?

10/22/2014 1:59:09 PM

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Enjoy:

http://3qh929iorux3fdpl532k03kg.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/UNC-FINAL-REPORT.pdf

10/22/2014 2:01:38 PM

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"During the Mack Brown era (1988-1997), 35 football players enrolled in
AFAM independent studies.134 In the four years of Carl Torbush’s tenure (1997-2000), there were
35 football enrollments in paper classes. There were 747 enrollments in paper classes during Coach
John Bunting’s tenure (2001-2006)
, and 181 enrollments in paper classes under Coach Butch Davis
(2007-2010)."

10/22/2014 2:03:58 PM

scotieb24
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upcoming personnel decisions

10/22/2014 2:11:41 PM

jbrick83
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Folt just admitted it was an academic AND athletic scandal. They've been trying to say it was just academic forever. Wonder if that opens up the door for the NCAA to come back in with more penalties (LOIC please).

10/22/2014 2:11:50 PM

scotieb24
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9 people fired

10/22/2014 2:12:36 PM

Lionheart
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I'm still trying to figure out how you give immunity to a bunch of people for helping a report that has no merit on any legal standing.

Not saying they shouldn't have gotten a plea deal but they should have had some sort of punishment, if in fact this was all on their heads.

10/22/2014 2:13:33 PM

dtownral
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it didn't have anything to do with the report

10/22/2014 2:16:10 PM

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If i were those students...i would demand to go back to college. Fuck mid-life crisis.

10/22/2014 2:16:52 PM

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I mean seriously how do you expect anyone to take anything the NCAA does seriously if they dont bring the hammer down? This isnt some funneling some recruits money or what not. This is blatant academic fraud over decades. This should result in the harshest punishment even layed down by the NCAA yet noting is going to happen. Every school out there may as well do this now as the precedent has been set that nothing of any note will result. Fucking terrible!

10/22/2014 2:17:16 PM

LastInACC
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UNC makes a lot of $$ on basketball so bringing down a hammer on them is eh....

10/22/2014 2:18:39 PM

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Steve Politi
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That's the spot on the wall where my UNC diploma was hanging until a few minutes ago. "


10/22/2014 2:19:05 PM

steviewonder
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The tournament did just fine a few years back when UNC didnt make it...

10/22/2014 2:19:55 PM

LastInACC
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where them popcorn gifs?

[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM. Reason : d]

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10/22/2014 2:23:57 PM

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10/22/2014 2:25:00 PM

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/23/sports/university-of-north-carolina-investigation-reveals-shadow-curriculum-to-help-athletes.html

10/22/2014 2:25:01 PM

tower
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WELCOME BACK, NCAA!

[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM. Reason : a]

10/22/2014 2:25:12 PM

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i almost forgot that this all started because Marvin Austin was an idiot on Twitter

10/22/2014 2:27:55 PM

Bullet
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Wait, what?

10/22/2014 2:29:24 PM

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10/22/2014 2:31:22 PM

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