interesting theory i read on some other message board: since other planes have obviously gone down on the island before, a plane with animals on it (going to australian zoo or something) went down on the island. explains the polar bear, and other possibly large animals on the island, and black woman said the sound of the unknown creature sounded familiar, and that she was from the bronx, possibly near bronx zoo.

just another theory to think about

9/29/2004 11:59:47 PM

theories and spoilers will ruin this show

don't play with fire

surprises make it interesting and keep you hooked

9/30/2004 12:33:05 AM

In the show, they had the question, "Where are we?" I started thinking... how about, "When are we?" Time Travel? Burmuda Triangle type stuff?

9/30/2004 6:04:44 AM

Yeah there is no reason to believe the big monster that moves trees is a polar bear, or any normal animal.

Im thinking they hit Isla Nublar off the coast of Costa Rica

9/30/2004 8:38:05 AM

^why is there no reason to think this? they said it was a polar bear...

9/30/2004 8:57:08 AM

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"why is there no reason to think this? they said it was a polar bear... "

they also said that the polar bear didn't knock down the trees, kill the pilot, etc.

I'm wondering what Kate did to be a prisoner, and also how the black kid's dog is gonna tie into things.

9/30/2004 9:00:22 AM

i wonder what fugitive girl did
i mean, it seems like it wasn't anything violent since she didn't know how to use a gun

of course, that could have been an act

btw, shouldn't she have given the gun to Sayed? crazy white guy could have had another clip...

9/30/2004 9:33:20 AM

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"they also said that the polar bear didn't knock down the trees, kill the pilot, etc."

bingo.

9/30/2004 9:39:30 AM

^ they said that the polar bear that guy shot was a baby version of what's been chasing them around the woods.

9/30/2004 10:34:43 AM

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"i wonder what fugitive girl did i mean, it seems like it wasn't anything violent since she didn't know how to use a gun of course, that could have been an act"

Also she put the oxygen mask on the marshal escorting her when he was knocked out. And the guy said something about "maybe they will believe your story" so maybe shes didn't do what ever shes charged with...

9/30/2004 10:45:44 AM

Little kid sees polar bear in comic book. Polar bear appears on tropical island where it shouldn't be.



Maybe this wasn't just foreshadowing.

9/30/2004 11:14:58 AM

jumanji!!!!!!!!

9/30/2004 11:17:48 AM

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"they said that the polar bear that guy shot was a baby version of what's been chasing them around the woods."

I took that to mean it was much smaller than what was out there, not that it was a little bear and that there was a BIG polar bear out there.

9/30/2004 11:18:10 AM

crazy ass mexican fortune-making comics...

9/30/2004 11:42:19 AM

^^ exactly, and i think it was a joke as well, i don't know how you could have watched that part and thought they felt there was actually a giant polar bear running around.

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"Little kid sees polar bear in comic book. Polar bear appears on tropical island where it shouldn't be. Maybe this wasn't just foreshadowing."

yeah, i was thinking it may be something like this too, so if theres dinosaurs also, we'll have jurassic park and sphere, maybe they should throw in some eaters of the dead.

9/30/2004 1:25:26 PM

so, i taped it, but i don't feel like watching it again

the kid saw a polar bear in the spanish comic book?
i just remember seeing super hero's from the Golden Age...

maybe i should focus on watching tv instead of just kinda watching/surfing the interweb

9/30/2004 1:57:59 PM

when they first show the kid reading the comic book he is on a page with a polar bear on it, then he turns the page

9/30/2004 2:00:04 PM

So they should run into Aquaman any episode now

9/30/2004 2:02:11 PM

i saw it for the first time last night and thought it was pretty good.
im wondering if the people before them that apparently are dead now were on some expedition to find out what that thing was (bear...whatever)

9/30/2004 2:14:58 PM

I think Jockgirl is on the right track---

9/30/2004 4:33:01 PM

sooooo
good episode tonight

[/hope]

[Edited on October 6, 2004 at 6:53 PM. Reason : `]

10/6/2004 6:48:52 PM

share your delimma with us

oh wait...

10/6/2004 6:51:57 PM

its about to begin!

10/6/2004 7:55:08 PM

shes even hot in her mugshot

10/6/2004 8:02:18 PM

ahhhh

my loyalty to smallville has me watching it and taping lost, doh...

10/6/2004 8:16:31 PM

fuck a commercial

10/6/2004 8:16:50 PM

go find that dog homie

10/6/2004 8:35:13 PM

nobody told me michael beihn was on that "hawaii" show...

now i'm tempted to watch it as well...

10/6/2004 8:36:02 PM

that chick has some nice and small boobies

10/6/2004 8:36:51 PM

why was there a korean woman on there just now?

10/6/2004 8:38:31 PM

Why aren't these people thinking... before it's too late, those dead people on the plane = food!

10/6/2004 8:40:15 PM

shes japanese and she has always been there

10/6/2004 8:41:01 PM

this dude is a cat

10/6/2004 8:50:10 PM

why he shoot him in the damn heart?!

10/6/2004 8:50:39 PM

haha, dude thought he was all badass

10/6/2004 8:52:01 PM

haha

bald dude's going to get dog back

asian dude's going to kill black dude for looking at his woman

10/6/2004 8:55:35 PM

dogs gonna be eaten@!

10/6/2004 8:56:06 PM

I CANT WAIT ANOTHER WEEEEEEEK

10/6/2004 9:01:16 PM

Best drama since sopranos

10/6/2004 9:03:57 PM

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"shes japanese and she has always been there"

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"Cast (in credits order) Matthew Fox .... Jack Evangeline Lilly .... Kate Ian Somerhalder .... Boone Dominic Monaghan .... Charlie Jorge Garcia .... Hurley Maggie Grace .... Shannon Malcolm David Kelley .... Walt Naveen Andrews .... Sayid Harold Perrineau Jr. .... Michael Josh Holloway .... Sawyer Terry O'Quinn .... Locke Daniel Dae Kim .... Jin Yoon-jin Kim .... Sun (as Yunjin Kim)"

Is korean.

10/6/2004 9:07:23 PM

SHES JAPANESE IN THE SHOW!

10/6/2004 9:08:22 PM

Black kid looks at comic book of polar bear ---> polar bear appears in woods.

Dad tells kid that he will find the dog as soon as the rain stops ---> rain stops.

10/6/2004 9:11:29 PM

oh the kid is the controller?

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"SHES JAPANESE IN THE SHOW!"

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"Also among the core characters are outsiders Jin (Daniel Dae Kim) and Sun (Yunjin Kim), two South Koreans who don't speak English."

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"Cast, characters make 'Lost' entertaining The ensemble cast of "Lost" includes, from left in foreground, Dominic Monaghan, Matthew Fox, Evangeline Lilly, Josh Holloway, Yunjin Kim, Daniel Dae Kim, Malcolm David Kelley and Harold Perrineau. In the back row are Terry O'Quinn, Jorge Garcia, Ian Somerhalder, Maggie Grace, Naveen Andrews and Emilie De Ravin. The actors say the show's writers have given each character a unique and complex past. ABC By Michael Tsai Advertiser Staff Writer Is it, as cynics have sniffed, "Survivor" with a script? Or maybe "The X-Files" gone Gilligan? 'Lost' * 7 p.m. tomorrow * ABC The cast * Jack: Matthew Fox * Kate: Evangeline Lilly * Boone: Ian Somerhalder * Charlie: Dominic Monaghan * Hurley: Jorge Garcia * Shannon: Maggie Grace * Walt: Malcolm David Kelley * Sayid: Naveen Andrews * Claire: Emilie De Ravin * Michael: Harold Perrineau * Sawyer: Josh Holloway * Locke: Terry O'Quinn * Jin: Daniel Dae Kim * Sun: Yunjin Kim Co-creators/executive producers * J.J. Abrams * Damon Lindelof Executive producer * Bryan Burk Is it "Robinson Crusoe" meets "The Lord of the Flies" meets "Jurassic Park" — with an ensemble cast of 13 improbably beautiful people? After much money (the pilot episode, reported to have cost more than $10 million, is said to be the most expensive in network TV history), much hype, and much speculation by its pre-debut fan base, ABC's "Lost" makes its broadcast debut tomorrow night with the first half of a two-hour pilot shot at Mokule'ia and other spots on O'ahu. The show's premise — a plane traveling from Australia to Los Angeles crashes on a deserted island, leaving 48 survivors to form their own civilization and fend off mysterious creatures that lurk on the periphery — drew snickers from TV critics and industry observers when production started in April. That was then. Soon after a rough cut of the pilot was sent to ABC, bootleg snippets began turning up on the Internet, leading to wild speculation about the direction of the show, but also wowing potential viewers with production values rarely seen on network TV. With co-creator and executive producer J.J. Abrams ("Alias") personally directing the first two episodes and a strong international cast assembled to appeal to a broad audience, the show has already been singled out as one of the hits of the season by critics attending advance screenings at the Comic-Con International convention in San Diego and Honolulu's own Sunset on the Beach shindig. "What is exciting about this show is that it is unlike any other show on TV," says executive producer Bryan Burk. "We like reality shows, but this is not a reality game show, or a cop show, or a hospital show. It's not 'Survivor' or 'Gilligan's Island.' " "We have drama, action, adventure, horror, eeriness — everything you could hope for." Tomorrow's premiere episode begins moments after the crash, with Jack (Matthew Fox), a doctor, waking up alone in a bamboo forest. He makes his way to a nearby beach where his fellow survivors are strewn amid the still-burning wreckage of their plane. One by one the rest of the characters emerge. Each brings with them from the real world a distinct identity and — as the show will reveal each week — an intriguing personal history. "In the pilot, you see the characters in the first 12 hours after what is probably the most traumatic experience you can have," says Fox, who is perhaps best known as the eldest brother in "Party of Five." "Visually, you might make assumptions about who they are, based on the way we're all programmed to view things. But these characters will surprise you." Thus, Fox said, the show's title is appropriate on two levels. "I think it refers to the individual being lost personally, not just lost on the island," he said. Burk said much of the great arc of the show — the first four to five seasons have already been plotted out — has as much to do with the characters finding out who they are and who they need to be to survive the natural and preternatural challenges that arise. "What you did, your life before the crash, are both irrelevant and very relevant to who you are on the island and what you become," Burk said. "The people fans like and identify with may change as the show goes on and the characters show what they're made of." It's a good bet that Fox's character will remain at the forefront of the show through at least the first season. As the survivor's only doctor, Jack takes a natural leadership role in the first episode. Still, even Fox says he doesn't know what to expect from script to script. "They (the writers) kept me in suspense through the first four or five episodes," he said. "They surprised me with a few things." Newcomer Evangeline Lilly plays Kate, a reserved young woman who is called to duty early in the first episode. "Kate is tough and assertive but removed emotionally — and for a good reason, which will come out later," Lilly says. "There's a dichotomy to her character. I love her vulnerability, and yet there's also a strong physicality to her." The latter could certainly be said of Lilly, who wasted no time acclimating herself to her new O'ahu home by hiking along the Old Pali Road, swimming at Lanikai and exploring other parts of the island. While Jack and Kate anchor the show, the rest of the characters provide grist for many seasons of storytelling. Charlie (Dominic Monaghan, "Lord of the Rings") is a heroin-addicted bass player with a dark secret. Locke (Terry O'Quinn) is an even more mysterious loner who lurks about the periphery. Other characters, appropriate perhaps to airplane seating arrangements, are introduced in pairs. Maggie Grace plays spoiled, headstrong Shannon, whose insistence that rescue is imminent borders on denial; Shannon's older brother Boone (Ian Somerhalder) is much less convinced. Michael (Harold Perrineau) has just gained custody of his son, Walt (Malcolm David Kelley) after the death of the boy's mother. They're still virtual strangers when the plane crashes. Naveen Andrews ("The English Patient") plays Sayid, a former member of the Iraqi Republican Guard. "For a major network to include this kind of character in the main cast, and not as a negative sort of character, but as a person who is almost heroic — that's very rare," says Andrews. "I'm proud and grateful for this role." Sayid's dramatic counterpoint is Sawyer (Josh Holloway), a slightly obnoxious, jingoistic American. Claire (Emilie De Ravin) is a pregnant woman who finds a sympathetic friend in Hurley (Jorge Garcia), an affable lug who makes sure the mother-to-be gets two servings of indestructible airline dinner. Also among the core characters are outsiders Jin (Daniel Dae Kim) and Sun (Yunjin Kim), two South Koreans who don't speak English. Yunjin Kim originally auditioned for the role of Kate. Producers went with Lilly instead, but liked Kim so much they added the Sun and Jin characters to accommodate her. Daniel Dae Kim, a familiar face to fans of "24," "Angel," "CSI" and "ER," said he welcomes the opportunity to use his first language on TV. "It will be a big challenge," said Kim, who was born in Pusan and holds an MFA in acting from New York University. "I've never not spoken English in a role." Kim said subtitles will be used when the couple speak to each other, but not when they try to talk with the other survivors, thus underscoring how apart they are from the rest. Of course, if "Lost" were strictly based on nuanced character studies, it likely would not have held an special advance screening at the Comic Con in San Diego last month. The otherworldliness of the show comes out in brief but disquieting moments, from an out-of-its-element polar bear to the unseen mystery beast that starts thinning out the the supporting cast from the very first episode. "With the monster, I think they want to get every element in from the beginning so that nothing comes out of left field later," Grace said. "You don't want to introduce it in Episode 8 and have the audience feel toyed with." Even with all of those elements at play, Grace said, the end result is surprisingly cohesive. "The writers have combined all the genre elements so seamlessly," she said. "There are otherworldly elements, but they aren't the focus of the story." Reach Michael Tsai at mtsai@honoluluadvertiser.com or 535-2461"

[Edited on October 6, 2004 at 9:18 PM. Reason : ahem]

10/6/2004 9:13:40 PM

i am saying they are japanese
quit being so fuckin hard headed

10/6/2004 9:23:35 PM

fuck, i forgot to watch it. someone type up a synopsis for me. (:

10/6/2004 9:58:55 PM

website should have the details of the episode
u didnt miss much

10/6/2004 10:04:10 PM

fat guy is getting on my nerves for saying "dude" way too much and generally being a little tactless bitch

token black guy should have gotten eaten

10/6/2004 11:37:08 PM

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"i am saying they are japanese"

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"Also among the core characters are outsiders Jin (Daniel Dae Kim) and Sun (Yunjin Kim), two South Koreans who don't speak English."

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"quit being so fuckin hard headed"

ahem
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Did anyone else notice that the preview they showed after last weeks episode is the same one they showed this week? I wanted to see the crazy guy with knives this week, and apparently I have to wait another week

Fantastic show though, they are good at keeping you wanting to know more.

10/7/2004 8:27:12 AM

last week they showed a preview for the entire season, since they just finished showing the pilot episode

10/7/2004 11:09:04 AM

oh

well

pwnt

10/7/2004 11:14:29 AM