^^ the first ten mins are freaking cool

10/10/2005 6:11:59 AM

Burn the land
Boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me

10/16/2005 10:41:42 PM

this guy

10/16/2005 10:43:39 PM

^ & ^^

10/17/2005 4:02:22 PM

Quote :

"but it was oddly arousing when Kaylee was getting fucked in the engine room off camera in "Out of Gas""

DAMN was it ever

BTW, "War Stories" was, perhaps, the funniest show I have ever seen.

oh, and Christina Hendricks... NEED I SAY MORE?

11/25/2005 4:16:47 PM

"Take me sir, take me hard"

11/25/2005 5:23:05 PM

"...good bible"

11/25/2005 6:46:28 PM

anybody know anything about a possible season 2?



[Edited on December 4, 2005 at 3:19 PM. Reason : i went out and bought the series on DVD and loved it]

12/4/2005 3:14:15 PM

The movie finished it for sure

12/4/2005 3:32:10 PM

The last word from Joss Whedon is that DVD sales will be key to whether this story gets continued in any form. There were rumors that sci-fi or one of the premium channels had optioned rights for a tv movie sequel but they've been denied by the Whedon camp.

12/4/2005 3:40:55 PM

i would think that the Sci Fi channel is the only place where it would succeed

12/4/2005 4:56:23 PM

i hope they make more

they have such a good cast

12/4/2005 5:22:27 PM

I think it could thrive on scifi, and really turn it into a powerhour channel
Battlestar + Firefly? They'd have my vote for sure

12/4/2005 5:46:19 PM

well i dont know about a power channel (for some reason sci fi will always be the way it is) but it certainly would be a good GREAT replacement for Farscape


and to be perfectly honest, i love the scifi channel because it doesnt have bullshit crap tv series like most other channels do

[Edited on December 4, 2005 at 5:52 PM. Reason : .]

12/4/2005 5:52:17 PM

^ahem, the 4400

12/4/2005 8:57:14 PM

Quote :

"it certainly would be a good GREAT replacement for Farscape"

indeed

or they could just have it on sci fi and bring bacl farscape too

12/4/2005 9:28:00 PM

farscape is weak.


CHRIIIIITOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNSDfasdfasdfsafdsdafsdfsdfsd

12/4/2005 9:55:48 PM

the show should be easier and cheaper to produce with a smaller cast. 6 instead of nine. thats a tremendous cost reduction

12/5/2005 6:15:36 AM

yea i always thought that there were just too many characters. they all were good actors...but the whore and the pilot really werent needed

12/5/2005 7:51:28 AM

you take away any of those characters and the show breaks

12/5/2005 10:15:04 AM

^Someone needs to see the movie.

12/5/2005 12:56:28 PM

Quote :

"you take away any of those characters and the show breaks"

100% agreed

the show's cast is as close to perfect as you can get, IMO

each character compliments or carries one of the other characters in the show and balances it well

Mal / Zoe - War buddies - very dedicated friendship
Wash / Zoe - Married Couple - very involved love for each other
Mal / Inara - Opposites attract - Love/Hate each other all the time but could never be without each other
River / Simon - Very strong, deep rooted sibling relationship since childhood (Big brother cares for / protects little sister)
Kaylee / Simon - Very innocent new shy-flirty-love relationship back and forth between them
Jayne / Simon - Very uneasy tension between the two based off the behavior of River and their status with "The Alliance"
Shepherd Book / Mal - Conscious / Religious reminder for Mal and a father figure to the group as well as Mal

in my opinion this show does this better than any I have seen in a long time





[Edited on December 5, 2005 at 2:10 PM. Reason : and yes, someone needs to see the movie]

12/5/2005 2:08:30 PM

Um, have you seen the movie?

12/5/2005 8:32:46 PM

*****SPOLIERS*****SPOILERS*****SPOLIERS*****SPOILERS*****SPOLIERS*****SPOILERS*****

















Ron glass had to go because he was basically dying at the time. He's better now, but he was barely even able to be in the movie at all.

As far as wash, wash was great but if you could do away with any of the characters, he would be it. I was sad to see him go, but if it makes the series more feasable... then I'm for it.




















*****SPOLIERS*****SPOILERS*****SPOLIERS*****SPOILERS*****SPOLIERS*****SPOILERS*****

12/5/2005 8:36:08 PM

Keep kaylee, dump zoe and inari. Let shep go...obviously wash is dead...

12/5/2005 8:45:28 PM

I have seen mreo than one theory that we will see either a move or a miniseries or both to fiull in fomr the end of the series to the start of serinity.

Becouse we all know there is a HUGE fing gap there.

12/5/2005 10:59:20 PM

^ darkhorse published 3 comics that filled that exact gap

12/5/2005 11:22:03 PM

Nah. After that torture episode, it just isnt the same without Wash.

12/6/2005 1:45:44 AM

Quote :

" 100% agreed the show's cast is as close to perfect as you can get, IMO each character compliments or carries one of the other characters in the show and balances it well"

In reality, the show is fundamentally 4 characters: Mal, River, Simon, Zoe, and zoe is stretching it. Everyone else is easily expendable.

Ordered list:
1. mal
2. river
3. simon
4. zoe
5. inara
6. Jayne (kaylee can go here, but she is 1/10th as funny as jayne)
7. Kaylee
8. wash
9. book

Kill them off starting from the bottom

[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 2:02 AM. Reason : sdf]

12/6/2005 1:56:54 AM

let us all trust in the wisdom of Joss

12/6/2005 4:13:55 AM

well...if firefly would ever comeback, it could only happen if the DVD sales were thru the roof, or if serenity did much better

and i dont see either happening. so i guess its gone.

12/6/2005 4:17:02 AM

The only reason I say Book is more important to the story than everyone is giving him credit is that his back story is the least known. There is definantly room to expand his character.....



**Spoiler**

well maybe not now since he's dead. I'd still like to know what his deal was though.

**Spoiler**



I think the surplus of characters and how well they all balance is what made firefly different from other shows out there.

12/6/2005 2:33:30 PM

I think I will be getting the first seasonz0r

12/6/2005 10:03:04 PM

I'm thinking about getting the 1st season, and I'll definitely pick up the movie. That show rocked, and it deserves a second chance. Networks can suck a dick.

12/6/2005 10:23:27 PM

first season is so freaking cheap man. I got mine for 15 bucks on amazon as a gold box item way back before the movie hype started up again.

28 bucks on amazon for firefly complete series.

16.98 for pre-order of serenity. to be released december 20th

[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 11:46 PM. Reason : ]

12/6/2005 11:40:05 PM

Quote :

"I think the surplus of characters and how well they all balance is what made firefly different from other shows out there. "

THANKYOU!! At least one person got what i was trying to say.

12/7/2005 7:15:07 PM

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/673/673102p1.html

Quote :

"Exclusive: A Serenity Sequel? This one's for the Browncoats. by IGN FilmForce December 1, 2005 - IGN FilmForce has heard that, although it was very disappointed in the poor box office showing for Serenity, Universal may not have retired Captain Malcolm Reynolds and his renegade crew just yet. Sources said that, given the strong sales of the TV series Firefly on DVD, Universal is planning a sequel film to Serenity that will be produced with and to broadcast premiere on the Sci Fi Channel, which is part of the NBC Universal family. The project is said to be a lower budget undertaking streamlined for the small-screen. IGN FilmForce checked with Joss Whedon's camp who denied the claim; Universal did not comment. Time will tell if this rumor pans out."

Sounds like $80 million was NOT the cutoff.

[Edited on December 10, 2005 at 7:07 PM. Reason : -]

12/10/2005 7:06:52 PM

i hope they dont go too low budget

12/10/2005 7:33:28 PM

bought the DvD, and I must say quality.

And can someone sum up why this wasnt a successful show?

12/11/2005 12:10:30 AM

it was on fox

12/11/2005 12:18:39 AM

^^ Where did you get it...doesnt come out until the 20th.

12/11/2005 12:51:14 AM

^the series, not the movie

12/11/2005 3:48:03 AM

Quote :

"And can someone sum up why this wasnt a successful show?"

other than the fact that Fox's execs are the biggest retards on the planet, no i can not

12/12/2005 9:04:31 AM

kkthx

12/12/2005 12:29:08 PM

but then again, these are the same dumb fucks that cancelled Family Guy

12/12/2005 12:50:34 PM

bttt any news?

1/12/2006 11:42:48 AM

i think its pretty much dead in the water

1/12/2006 12:23:43 PM

Fox cancels tons of unique shows, even if they're good. If there's not an instant fanbase, they won't tolerate letting anything grow for a season or two. It really would have done much better on the WB because they aren't looking for the kinds of numbers Fox is.

1/12/2006 4:14:01 PM

or even if fox had let the
1) run the real pilot first
2) run the episodes in order
3) keep the same timeslot

1/12/2006 4:31:50 PM

It is interesting to look at the dvd box/book and see that there were episodes that were never even aired between episodes that were aired. I hate this show didn't make it because it is a great quality show.

1/12/2006 4:39:42 PM