Quote :

"Then motherfucking prove it you god damned cocksucker."

You need to calm the fuck down.

You're getting way too worked up over something as stupid as inventory.

12/21/2005 10:56:44 AM

wow

El Nacho has made himself look like a huge goober, troll, choad, and loser in one thread.

self pwnt

gg

12/21/2005 11:13:00 AM

DeputyDog, you'll probably get shit for it at EB Games, probably some like $30-40. You would better off selling it on eBay or here.

12/21/2005 11:31:11 AM

they were going for like 75 in november store credit (same with ps2, gc being a lot less). might not be as much now, but that aint terrible.

12/21/2005 12:03:32 PM

eb games always gives me the shaft. I dont know why I keep bringin stuff to them.

12/21/2005 12:12:46 PM

I had a dream where I am standing at a Microsoft outlet and I ask them if they have an XBOX shortage, and they were like no we have enough but no one is buying it.

I was like ok man I'll buy one.

12/21/2005 12:15:16 PM

^^ i know right, but it is easier than trying to sell on ebay and: few bucks > 0 + wasted shelf space (assuming you'll hardly ever or never play that game again)

12/21/2005 12:33:54 PM

I never take stuff back to EB to cash out. You pretty much get pennies on the the dollar.

I figure that the chance that I'll dig it out of the closet and play it again is worth more that the $20 bucks they would have given me on hundreds of dollars of investment. Happened with the Sega Saturn. Some guy brought a huge box of games in (right before the Saturn demise) and traded it for like 2 used dreamcast games. I was waiting in line also and I offered to buy a few - which really pissed the guy at the counter off . I would have easily given him 10x the amount of value he ended up getting from one of those game shops.

12/21/2005 12:58:05 PM

shrug i traded in my ps2 and about 18 xbox/ps2 games that were old and i wouldnt play anymore. got about 200 in credit after all the bonuses and whatnot. that really isnt so terrible considering what a used ps2 and games cost (especially those particular games). im sure i couldnt have gotten much more if any.

that said i coulda kept about 8 of the games and lost only 10-15 bucks. i didnt realize it right then, but again im almost certain ill never play those particular games again and i needed to get rid of some closet junk (it really adds up).

all the games you buy on credit dont have sales tax either so thats easily another 10-15 bucks.

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .]

12/21/2005 1:45:05 PM

I'm going to seriously walk into a store in the end of January, take a picture of the mile high stack of Xbox360's and post on the wolfweb with the caption

"HAHAHA YOU CAMPED OUT AND I STILL GOT ONE BEFORE A DECENT GAME CAME OUT"

You won't care though. You'll be too busy playing computer video games.

12/21/2005 1:53:35 PM

El Nacho

congrats on making yourself look like an idiot

How about this, instead of me calling every fucking phone number in the book to FIND one, since you obviously are so fucking desperate to be right on this one, then why don't you start calling every fucking best buy, cc, toys r us, wal mart, sams club, Tom & Dick's TV shack, and who-the-fuck-else could possibly be carrying them, and you tell me that every single one is cleaned out.

Because you have as much statistical proof to back up your claim as I do.

and thats zero.

I just don't have a hardon for proving I'm right.

(btw me momma says hello, and wants to reimburse you for the long distances charges, she still uses MCI for her long distance carrier, and she wants to know if she can just apply it to her monthly bill)

12/21/2005 2:08:02 PM

Quote :

""HAHAHA YOU CAMPED OUT AND I STILL GOT ONE BEFORE A DECENT GAME CAME OUT""

PGR, Fifa, Perfect Dark, King Kong, Call of Duty 2....are all well over 'decent'

12/21/2005 2:09:16 PM

i havent played up but id be more than willing to buy pgr3, condemned, pd0, and doa (when its out though i thought it was supposed to be out on the 18th).

maybe call of duty and kameo as well.

12/21/2005 2:13:37 PM

gloveko lies, only game worth playing is geo wars.

i mean justify your purchase i dont care, just dont lie to these poor bystanders

12/21/2005 3:07:57 PM

no walmart, target, or kmart in the triangle had them as of noon today (per phone calls).

12/21/2005 3:20:31 PM

Perfect Dark Zero and King Kong are terrible games.

Call of Duty 2 is nice but one dimensional as are PGR3 and FIFA. None of these titles are "must have" especially considering that CoD2 and sports games are available for the computer and other consoles.

I would say Geo Wars is the best game on the Xbox360 considering its only 15 bux and insanely fun.

12/21/2005 3:26:31 PM

Gears of War may make me pick one up

may

and that isnt out yet. so money in my pocket.

12/21/2005 3:28:53 PM

Quote :

""HAHAHA YOU CAMPED OUT AND I STILL GOT ONE BEFORE A DECENT GAME CAME OUT""

Condemned is a must buy...it kills every Resident Evil type game ever made...the environment is fully interactive as well...there is nothing like beating a dude down with a clothes hanger or concrete rebar.

and to Maugan...I guess you STILL haven't gone to http://xbox.clambert.org/ because that tells you who is sold out and who isn't without calling...

12/21/2005 4:25:38 PM

Quote :

"Target Xbox 360 Racing and Sport Bundle Sold out 4 minutes ago CompUSA Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago ComputerBrain Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago CompUSA Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago ComputerBrain Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago eStarland Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago BusyBeaver Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago BusyBeaver Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago eStarland Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago ToysRUs Xbox 360 Pro Player's Bundle II Sold out 4 minutes ago ToysRUs Xbox 360 Pro Player's Bundle Sold out 4 minutes ago ToysRUs Xbox 360 Core Player's Bundle II Sold out 4 minutes ago ToysRUs Xbox 360 Core Player's Bundle Sold out 4 minutes ago Provantage Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago Provantage Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago BarnesAndNoble Xbox 360 BN Bundle (with games) Sold out 4 minutes ago Amazon Xbox 360 Core Bundle Mature Sold out 4 minutes ago Amazon Xbox 360 Core Bundle Teen Sold out 4 minutes ago Amazon Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago Amazon Xbox 360 System Fully Loaded Sold out 4 minutes ago EBGames Xbox 360 Premium System Sold out 4 minutes ago EBGames Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago Mwave.com Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago CircuitCity Xbox 360 Systems Sold out 4 minutes ago Wal-Mart Xbox 360 Pro Bundle Sold out 5 minutes ago Wal-Mart Xbox 360 Live Bundle Sold out 5 minutes ago KBToys Xbox 360 Core Bundle with Games Sold out 5 minutes ago KBToys Xbox 360 Premium Bundle with Games Sold out 5 minutes ago KMart Xbox 360 Premium System Sold out 5 minutes ago EastLuna Xbox 360 Premium System Sold out about 8 hours ago EastLuna Xbox 360 Core System Sold out about 9 hours ago ErwinComp Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 2 days ago ErwinComp Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 2 days ago BarnesAndNoble Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 7 days ago BarnesAndNoble Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 7 days ago"

The only places in stock are two AUCTION sites

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 4:39 PM. Reason : s]

12/21/2005 4:38:22 PM

Quote :

"El Nacho congrats on making yourself look like an idiot"

I'll give you worked up. But there's only one idiot here. (Well two if you count Lokken, but anyone that browses the entertainment section of TWW, already knew that.

Quote :

"How about this, instead of me calling every fucking phone number in the book to FIND one, since you obviously are so fucking desperate to be right on this one, then why don't you start calling every fucking best buy, cc, toys r us, wal mart, sams club, Tom & Dick's TV shack, and who-the-fuck-else could possibly be carrying them, and you tell me that every single one is cleaned out."

I don't really have to do that, because you wanna know who already has? EVERYONE THAT WANTS AN XBOX 360.

You act like just because someone doesn't live in a big city they don't play video games. You act like just because someone lives in a backwoods hick town in the middle of nowhere, that they don't have the internet, access to eBay, and the desire to make a quick 200% increase on their investment. You actually think there's a store somewhere where 360s are just sitting on the shelf and people walk by it and don't know or care what this newfangled dee-vise is. And that's just simply not the case. It's national news how there are shortages everywhere. And in this day and age, most people know about ebay, and you're the idiot if you think that there's ANYWHERE in this country that people are walking by a 360 in the store and not buying it.

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" Because you have as much statistical proof to back up your claim as I do. and thats zero. I just don't have a hardon for proving I'm right. "

translation: I know I'm wrong, but there's no possible way you can call several thousand stores and verify that, so I'm going to continue talking as much shit as possible.

I just like how you've backpedaled from saying that two weeks after launch you would be able to saunter into any store and pick up a 360 with no problems, to having your entire argument rest on the hope that there might possibly be one lonely xbox collecting dust on the bottom shelf of Bob's Bargain Electronix in Stillwater, OK.

Quote :

" (btw me momma says hello, and wants to reimburse you for the long distances charges, she still uses MCI for her long distance carrier, and she wants to know if she can just apply it to her monthly bill) "

As I've already stated, I have free long distance, so no thanks. Tell her to save up her money so she can buy all those Xbox 360s that are so prevalant in her local walmart. I hear you can make a killing with those things on eBay.

12/21/2005 5:09:12 PM

this alone should make Maugan admit he was wrong, but we know that won't happen

Quote :

"Target Xbox 360 Racing and Sport Bundle Sold out 4 minutes ago CompUSA Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago ComputerBrain Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago CompUSA Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago ComputerBrain Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago eStarland Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago BusyBeaver Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago BusyBeaver Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago eStarland Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago ToysRUs Xbox 360 Pro Player's Bundle II Sold out 4 minutes ago ToysRUs Xbox 360 Pro Player's Bundle Sold out 4 minutes ago ToysRUs Xbox 360 Core Player's Bundle II Sold out 4 minutes ago ToysRUs Xbox 360 Core Player's Bundle Sold out 4 minutes ago Provantage Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago Provantage Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago BarnesAndNoble Xbox 360 BN Bundle (with games) Sold out 4 minutes ago Amazon Xbox 360 Core Bundle Mature Sold out 4 minutes ago Amazon Xbox 360 Core Bundle Teen Sold out 4 minutes ago Amazon Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago Amazon Xbox 360 System Fully Loaded Sold out 4 minutes ago EBGames Xbox 360 Premium System Sold out 4 minutes ago EBGames Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 4 minutes ago Mwave.com Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 4 minutes ago CircuitCity Xbox 360 Systems Sold out 4 minutes ago Wal-Mart Xbox 360 Pro Bundle Sold out 5 minutes ago Wal-Mart Xbox 360 Live Bundle Sold out 5 minutes ago KBToys Xbox 360 Core Bundle with Games Sold out 5 minutes ago KBToys Xbox 360 Premium Bundle with Games Sold out 5 minutes ago KMart Xbox 360 Premium System Sold out 5 minutes ago EastLuna Xbox 360 Premium System Sold out about 8 hours ago EastLuna Xbox 360 Core System Sold out about 9 hours ago ErwinComp Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 2 days ago ErwinComp Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 2 days ago BarnesAndNoble Xbox 360 Core System Sold out 7 days ago BarnesAndNoble Xbox 360 Platinum System Sold out 7 days ago"

12/21/2005 5:20:03 PM

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"and to Maugan...I guess you STILL haven't gone to http://xbox.clambert.org/ because that tells you who is sold out and who isn't without calling..."

That is just for online sales.

12/21/2005 5:21:29 PM

99% of online sales sites factor in in-store inventory for "pick up in the store option"

durr...that takes out most of the "in-store" xbox's just sitting around

12/21/2005 6:18:09 PM

Quote :

"99% of online sales sites factor in in-store inventory for "pick up in the store option""

Good thing Best Buy is on that list.

Or Sam's Club.

OH SHIT, THEY'RE NOT?

In fact, Best Buy has said for a long time that in-store pickup of XBox 360s ordered online won't happen.

Doesn't seem like EBGames is letting you check in store availability.

Circuit City won't even let you check in-store availability. All they say is that they're sold out on the web.

99%, huh?

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 6:40 PM. Reason : .]

12/21/2005 6:39:12 PM

^I've picked stuff up in the store from online purchases at Circuit City and Best Buy before...so you're wrong there

Quote :

"Best Buy has said for a long time that in-store pickup of XBox 360s ordered online won't happen."

Exactly, but they still show up in inventory...

That site DOES track in-store inventory...http://xbox.clambert.org/map_inventory/index because that's how I knew that there were 24 IN THE STORE at Best Buy in Burlington...that's how I have an X360 in my living room.

[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 6:47 PM. Reason : /]

12/21/2005 6:44:19 PM

^durr. that was just for the two shipments to Best Buy. That paged you linked to was just for the Dec. 18th release. It does NOT track local inventory, it just said how many they were going to get. NOT how many they have at one given time.

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"We'll try to help! Below is a list of many online retailers selling the Xbox 360. Our servers are querying each retailer every few minutes, and reporting back the latest inventory status here. While we're unable to determine local inventory in your area, we can give you an idea of what's available online. In the past week alone, more than 150 visitors have successfully used the locator at Toys R Us, Circuit City, and Amazon!"

Quote :

"^I've picked stuff up in the store from online purchases at Circuit City and Best Buy before...so you're wrong there "

durr.. Not for the 360.

Quote :

"Web-only: Xbox 360 currently sold out, please check back often* *Web-only packages not available for in-store pickup. We are receiving shipments on a regular basis. Please check back frequently."

http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/genericContent.do?oid=136791



[Edited on December 21, 2005 at 7:07 PM. Reason : durr]

12/21/2005 7:00:35 PM

Wow

you quote a handleful of stores from across the vast expanse of the good ole united state of ameruca and I'm supposed to believe that it represents the whole population of retailers?

Sigh.

And you're right, I wont admit I'm wrong because there is no fucking way to prove that you're right. I think you're missing that point.

12/21/2005 9:08:06 PM

what we have here is a classic case of TWWitis

12/21/2005 9:16:14 PM

yes I'm ashamed that I actually got dragged into this.

I'm above you mere plebes.

12/21/2005 9:18:46 PM

you're a shithead

12/21/2005 9:20:58 PM

takes one to know one bucko.

12/21/2005 9:34:37 PM

don't get sad. I was just repeating what you called me in my browser thread. I guess takes one to know one, eh?

12/21/2005 9:36:45 PM

12/21/2005 9:45:59 PM

Quote :

"And you're right, I wont admit I'm wrong because there is no fucking way to prove that you're right. I think you're missing that point."

How could I miss that point when it now makes up 100% of your argument?

I'd really like to see you deny that you were wrong about saying this:

Quote :

"but two weeks after the release you'll be able to walk into any best buy and say - "I want that one" and pick it up."

You're right Maugan. You really shouldn't allow yourself to be drug into discussions where you obviously don't have the first clue what you're talking about.

12/21/2005 11:40:46 PM

This is a really stupid thing to insist about being right on.

God knows other than the people hoarding them and selling them on eBay, everyone in the world wishes that Maugan was right.

[Edited on December 22, 2005 at 12:39 AM. Reason : .]

12/22/2005 12:39:38 AM

12/22/2005 1:35:23 AM

walmart gets them completely randomly and unannounced. They've gotten three shipments that I know of first hand, the last one being on the 18th.

12/22/2005 2:01:51 AM

I think at this point they are starting to trickle in randomly and not in giant waves. I know EB Games in Cary is getting their 3rd shipment in tomorrow. Of course they only got 8 in their second shipment. It may be possible to find one randomly at a target or walmart somewhere, but I'm sure they won't be on the shelves very long. At least for the next month or two.

12/22/2005 2:18:27 AM

Quote :

"walmart gets them completely randomly and unannounced. They've gotten three shipments that I know of first hand, the last one being on the 18th."

Walmart in Burlington didn't get any on the 18th ...I checked there before I waited at Best Buy because I was gonna keep one and sell one...so it must be completely random for Walmart (as in not every Walmart gets them at the same time)

12/22/2005 2:44:39 AM

I'm not adding anything to the conversation argument but I thought "casually walking into a store and picking one up" implied that every store had a stack of them ready to be purchased. "Casually walking into a store and picking one up" means not having to call 5 stores across town in an attempt to find one.

Is the argument;
1) You can't casually walk into a store and buy one if you'd like to
or
2) There isn't one single x-box 360 on any shelf at any store in the entire USA

I guess it is a moot point because unless you are counting the display model both are true. If you could buy one on a shelf somewhere then why would people be able to get away with selling them on e-bay for $1K? How do they charge $1K if people could easily pick one up for less than half that? (it's because they can't) I know that I for one would call every store within a 200 mile radius to pay $400 before I'd drop $1K on e-bay.

Arguing that there are some on a shelf someplace is pretty ridiculous. Shows my age, but imagine trying to find a Cabbage Patch doll in a store 5 MINUTES after the store opened. You couldn't.

[Edited on December 22, 2005 at 8:22 AM. Reason : -]

12/22/2005 8:22:32 AM

Quote :

"Is the argument; 1) You can't casually walk into a store and buy one if you'd like to or 2) There isn't one single x-box 360 on any shelf at any store in the entire USA"

It was (1) at the start of the debate, but as TWWitis set in, Maugan changed the debate to (2). El Nacho didn't really have the skills to call him on it so too late now.

gg Maugan

sry to El Nacho maybe someday you won't be a n00b anymore

[Edited on December 22, 2005 at 8:35 AM. Reason : s]

12/22/2005 8:34:58 AM

i think it is somewhere in between, to me at least. theres been plenty of ppl whove reported going into places like CC or costco and getting one without having to wait in line 8 hours, which was originally my point when i made a similar assertion.

im wasnt saying every store would have a shelf, but you could find one if you went to some, maybe even a good amount, of places. i was partially wrong, but not fully in my opinion. i truthfully beleive i could have gotten one at regular price without waiting in line if i wanted one (might have had to get up earlier, but thats it).

12/22/2005 8:38:39 AM

^^ Glad we got the official word in the thread now.

The argument turned retarded for both sides and I think they realize that.

I'm sure we all can agree there might be one on a shelf at this very moment. The idea that you can stroll down to any random store and just pick it up is absurd. If it was that easy (unless you luck out), there wouldn't be threads, posts, and links about which stores have them on the shelves right now.

If you put enough effort into it you might be able to find one. At that point though, how much is your time worth? The premium on Ebay might not be so bad. I never understood the hatred for the initial price hikes on Ebay. It sucks you are paying more than retail, but the reality is you are paying some kid to have stood in line for you for hours (on the cold, rain , etc).

New cars (Prius and MINI comes to mind) are often sold at premiums by the dealers and people gladly pay to be the first to get it. I have never understood how with consoles BB and the like just don't charge double opening day. I mean sell a few at retail for the die hards and sell a few to the people willing to pay.

[Edited on December 22, 2005 at 8:48 AM. Reason : late on the submit]

12/22/2005 8:43:24 AM

Quote :

"I'll give you worked up. But there's only one idiot here. (Well two if you count Lokken, but anyone that browses the entertainment section of TWW, already knew that."

hahaha says the girl that called a fucking walmart to verify what some dudes mother said about a video game system being in stock

youre a fucking idiot, youve dug yourself a 'fucking idiot' hole, and you cant get out.

12/22/2005 8:52:34 AM

^^ shrug i paid a little extra for WoW so i could join my friends who had started playing at launch. week later they were out at normal prices, so i wasted 10-20 bucks but i also got a full week of gaming in (quite a few levels).

so i agree, if you really want it for xmas (have a kid who really wanted it) and have the extra cash, i dont see a problem with paying 5-600. anything higher is a bit much.

[Edited on December 22, 2005 at 8:53 AM. Reason : .]

12/22/2005 8:52:39 AM

Quote :

"Shows my age, but imagine trying to find a Cabbage Patch doll in a store 5 MINUTES after the store opened."

This may be a shocking revelation to you, but the marketplace has changed a bit since the late 80s/early 90s.

A $400 console is a bit different than a $15 doll, not to mention the fact that the growth of eBay is part of the reason why there aren't any on shelves anymore. People who would buy Cabbage Patch Dolls and try to price hike them had a much smaller audience to do so to. With the rise of eBay and all the news stories of them going for 10x the normal price, everyone who wasn't an initial buyer of a 360 (in addition to a lot of people that were) became a reseller.

There are 9,000 or so 360s on eBay right now. You put all of those back on store shelves in addition to all the ones who have been sold by 18 year olds with their first credit card trying to make a quick buck and suddenly there has been a huge dent made in the supply shortage.

It's really nothing like any of the Christmas toy shortages before.

12/22/2005 9:15:56 AM

I cant believe you

A) seriously responded to that shit

and

B) typed that fucking much

12/22/2005 9:21:55 AM

^^I wasn't talking about factors that led to a shortage, I was talking about the shortage itself.

One thing has not changed. People want one and can't get them. That was the point.

Maybe there are 9000 of them on e-bay. If you put them back on the shelf I doubt it would make a dent in the supply shortage. There are probably a half million (made up I know) people that want one. 9000 would do nothing.

[Edited on December 22, 2005 at 9:23 AM. Reason : ^^]

12/22/2005 9:22:51 AM

Quote :

"El Nacho didn't really have the skills to call him on it so too late now. "

See and I would have thought that calling him out on it 35 days ago would have been good enough.

/message_topic.aspx?topic=314915&page=6#7846778

or you know, maybe pointing that exact point on my first post of this page.

Quote :

"I just like how you've backpedaled from saying that two weeks after launch you would be able to saunter into any store and pick up a 360 with no problems, to having your entire argument rest on the hope that there might possibly be one lonely xbox collecting dust on the bottom shelf of Bob's Bargain Electronix in Stillwater, OK. "

sry to Excoriator maybe someday you won't be a dumbass anymore


[Edited on December 22, 2005 at 9:45 AM. Reason : more]

12/22/2005 9:38:24 AM

Quote :

"Maybe there are 9000 of them on e-bay. If you put them back on the shelf I doubt it would make a dent in the supply shortage. There are probably a half million (made up I know) people that want one. 9000 would do nothing. "

9,000 right now which means 9,000 available after just about a month after the product was released. 5,000 auctions will be over by today.

Assuming that on average, even 3,000 units a day were sold on eBay that means over a span of 25 days 75,000 units moved through eBay. 15% of your random "half-a-million people want one" figure. I'd say that's more than just a dent.

12/22/2005 10:39:51 AM