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First-Round Projections 1. Houston Reggie Bush, RB USC 2. New Orleans Mario Williams, DE NC State 3. Tennessee Matt Leinart, QB USC 4. N.Y. Jets D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T Virginia 5. Green Bay A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio St. 6. San Francisco Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 7. Oakland Vince Young, QB Texas 8. Buffalo Brodrick Bunkley, DT Florida St. 9. Detroit Michael Huff, DB Texas 10. Arizona Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt 11. St. Louis Chad Greenway, LB Iowa 12. Cleveland Kamerion Wimbley, DE/OLB Florida St. 13. Baltimore Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 14. Philadelphia Winston Justice, T USC 15. Denver (from ATL) Chad Jackson, WR Florida 16. Miami Donte Whitner, S Ohio St. 17. Minnesota Ernie Sims, LB Florida St. 18. Dallas Jason Allen, S/CB Tennessee 19. San Diego Johnathan Joseph, CB South Carolina 20. Kansas City Tye Hill, CB Clemson 21. New England Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio St. 22. Denver (from WSH) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 23. Tampa Bay Antonio Cromartie, CB Florida St. 24. Cincinnati Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 25. N.Y. Giants Kelly Jennings, CB Miami 26. Chicago Richard Marshall CB Fresno St. 27. Carolina LenDale White, RB USC 28. Jacksonville Marcedes Lewis, TE UCLA 29. N.Y. Jets (from DEN) Manny Lawson, DE/OLB NC State 30. Indianapolis Laurence Maroney, RB Minnesota 31. Seattle Ashton Youboty, CB Ohio St. 32. Pittsburgh Sinorice Moss, WR Miami
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Second-Round Projections 33. Houston Eric Winston, T Miami 34. New Orleans Nick Mangold, C Ohio St. 35. N.Y. Jets Joseph Addai, RB LSU 36. Green Bay Tamba Hali, DE Penn St. 37. San Francisco Bobby Carpenter, LB Ohio St. 38. Oakland Gabe Watson, DT Michigan 39. Tennessee D'Qwell Jackson, LB Maryland 40. Detroit Davin Joseph, G Oklahoma 41. Arizona Leonard Pope, TE Georgia 42. Buffalo Taitusi "Deuce" Lutui, G USC 43. Cleveland Abdul Hodge, LB Iowa 44. Baltimore Brodie Croyle, QB Alabama 45. Philadelphia DeMeco Ryans, LB Alabama 46. St. Louis Orien Harris, DT Miami 47. Atlanta Cedric Griffin, CB Texas 48. Minnesota Kellen Clemens, QB Oregon 49. Dallas Marcus McNeill, T Auburn 50. San Diego Demetrius Williams, WR Oregon 51. Minnesota (from MIA) Chris Chester, OL Oklahoma 52. New England Brian Calhoun, RB Wisconsin 53. Washington Rocky McIntosh, LB Miami 54. Kansas City Darryl Tapp, DE Virginia Tech 55. Cincinnati Dominique Byrd, TE USC 56. N.Y. Giants Thomas Howard, LB UTEP 57. Chicago Greg Jennings, WR Western Michigan 58. Carolina Joe Klopfenstein, TE Colorado 59. Tampa Bay Andrew Whitworth, T LSU 60. Jacksonville Jason Spitz, C Louisville 61. Denver Mark Anderson, DE Alabama 62. Indianapolis Daniel Bullocks, DB Nebraska 63. Seattle Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College 64. Pittsburgh Danieal Manning, DB Abilene Christian
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Third-Round Projections 65. Houston Ko Simpson, DB South Carolina 66. Houston (from NO) Gerris Wilkinson, LB Georgia Tech 67. Green Bay Max Jean-Gilles, G Georgia 68. San Francisco David Pittman, CB Northwestern St. (La.) 69. Oakland Maurice Drew, RB UCLA 70. Buffalo (from TEN) Ryan O'Callaghan, T California 71. N.Y. Jets Brandon Williams, WR Wisconsin 72. Arizona Jon Alston, LB Stanford 73. Buffalo Maurice Stovall, WR Notre Dame 74. Detroit Devin Hester, CB Miami 75. New England (from BAL) Chris Gocong, DE/LB Cal Poly-SLO 76. Philadelphia Claude Wroten, DT LSU 77. St. Louis David Thomas, TE Texas 78. Cleveland Charles Spencer, G Pittsburgh 79. Atlanta Calvin Lowery, DB Penn St. 80. Dallas Charlie Whitehurst, QB Clemson 81. San Diego Paul McQuistan, OL Weber St. 82. Miami Parys Haralson, DE Tennessee 83. Minnesota Will Blackmon, WR/CB Boston College 84. San Francisco (from WSH) Victor Adeyanju, DE Indiana 85. Kansas City Brandon Marshall, WR Central Florida 86. New England Montavious Stanley, DT Louisville 87. N.Y. Giants Kyle Williams, DT LSU 88. Chicago Anthony Fasano, TE Notre Dame 89. Carolina Darnell Bing, DB USC 90. Tampa Bay Willie Reid, WR Fresno St. 91. Cincinnati Stanley McClover, DE Auburn 92. Jacksonville Jerome Harrison, RB Washington St. 93. Atlanta (from DEN) Devin Aromashodu, WR Auburn 94. Indianapolis Dusty Dvoracek, DT Oklahoma 95. Minnesota (from SEA) Le Kevin Smith, DT Nebraska 96. Pittsburgh Brent Hawkins, DE/OLB Illinois St. 97. N.Y. Jets (comp. pick) Roman Harper, DB Alabama
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Fourth-Round Projections 98. Houston James Wyche, DE Syracuse 99. New Orleans Demetrice Webb, CB Florida 100. San Francisco Lawrence Vickers, FB Colorado 101. Oakland Anthony Smith, DB Syracuse 102. Tennessee Leon Washington, RB Florida St. 103. N.Y. Jets Alan Zemaitis, CB Penn St. 104. Green Bay Derrick Martin, CB Wyoming 105. Buffalo Elvis Dumervil, DE Louisville 106. New England (from DET) Guy Whimper, T East Carolina 107. Arizona Fred Matua, G USC 108. Philadelphia David Kirtman, FB USC 109. St. Louis Kevin Boothe, OL Cornell 110. Cleveland DeMario Minter, CB Georgia 111. Baltimore Dion Byrum, CB Ohio 112. Cleveland (from ATL) Rodrique Wright, DT Texas 113. San Diego Babatunde Oshinowo, DT Stanford 114. Miami Zach Strief, T Northwestern 115. Minnesota Miles Austin, WR Monmouth 116. Philadelphia (from DAL) Tarvaris Jackson, QB Alabama St. 117. N.Y. Jets (from KC) Greg Eslinger, C Minnesota 118. New England Derek Hagan, WR Arizona St. 119. Denver (from WSH) Owen Daniels, TE Wisconsin 120. Chicago Freddie Keiaho, LB San Diego St. 121. Carolina Jonathan Scott, T Texas 122. Tampa Bay Brandon Johnson, LB Louisville 123. Cincinnati John McCargo, DT NC State 124. N.Y. Giants Jeremy Trueblood, T Boston College 125. Jacksonville James Anderson, LB Virginia Tech 126. Denver Bernard Pollard, DB Purdue 127. Philadelphia (from IND) Hank Baskett, WR New Mexico 128. Seattle John Torp, P Colorado 129. Pittsburgh Andre Hall, RB South Florida 130. Denver (comp. pick) Jeremy Bloom, WR Colorado 131. Pittsburgh (comp. pick) Daryn Colledge, T Boise St. 132. Baltimore (comp. pick) Rob Sims, G Ohio St. 133. Pittsburgh (comp. pick) Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green 4/12/2006 6:24:47 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
i thought mccargo was projected higher 4/12/2006 6:33:13 PM |
bkhardee All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
yeah same here.. and Rodrique Wright from Texas.. last year he was a first round lock. I dont see either of them falling this far down the board 4/12/2006 6:38:56 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
how the fuck did jimmy williams fall that far 4/12/2006 7:22:33 PM |
dksimmons Veteran 238 Posts user info edit post |
If I were the giants I would pick a LB, judging by the "ass-raping" a mediocre deshaun foster put on them in the first round. 4/12/2006 7:45:15 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Why do we have guys going pro that are likely to not go on the first day? 4/12/2006 7:47:12 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, I love Jimmy Williams in the 1st, McClover in the 3rd, and MCCARGO!!! in the 4th. Byrd is a fatass though forget him. Get Bullocks or someone instead.
[Edited on April 12, 2006 at 9:25 PM. Reason : k] 4/12/2006 9:24:41 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
Hmm, Darnell Bing in the 3rd round? 4/12/2006 11:21:53 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
unless i missed something, there is no way that kiwi will slip to the bottom of the 2nd round.......
...is there?
Carolina better take lendale if he is available, there is talk now of him slipping to the 2nd round. i also find it hard to belive that carolina won't go for a lb somewhere, unless they take the "best player available" route. 4/13/2006 11:30:08 AM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
kiwi, like Lendale, hasn't really been that impressive at the combine & proday. I don't think he'll fall that far, but I wouldn't expect him to be a #1.
As for carolina, RB, TE, & DB are all needs though as well as LB, so I can't really argue against any of the 1st 3 picks. And it looks like Thomas Davis will be playing LB anyway. Maybe the 4th pick (or if carolina gets Chicago's #3 for RManning) should be LB though.
[Edited on April 13, 2006 at 11:35 AM. Reason : ] 4/13/2006 11:32:36 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
i disagree with TE being a need. we have several TE's that do exactly what they are asked to do (mainly block/ check down passes). our offense doesn't need a te to have 50+ catches per year.
there are only so many plays to go around, and with 30-35 running plays, 10 or so to smitty, and 5-10 to other receivers/backs, there aren't many more touches left. 4/13/2006 11:50:29 AM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
that makes no sense at all
an offense with less playmakers is better than one with more?
haha 4/13/2006 11:59:31 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " What do you say to the people who are obsessed with the team having a receiving tight end? Derek, Raleigh, NC
I think what people might not understand is that there are five eligible receivers in the game. By virtue of the way we move people around, the tight end gets into one of the receiving spots sometimes, but his major job is as a blocker in pass protection. He still has to be effective for us in certain downs and distances and field positions, though. Our tight ends have been that way. When they have gotten down in the red zone, they have been much more effective. We don't feature one in particular, but our tight ends usually end up with about 45-50 catches between them. I think we do a pretty good job. We just don't have one who is going to catch 90 balls because we're not set up that way. There are teams in the League who have tight ends who catch that many, but if you look closely, you'll see they don't have a wide receiver who catches that many. If our tight end was the guy who was best suited to make big plays down the field, then we'd give it to him. Our best asset was Steve Smith last year, Muhsin Muhammad the year before, and Stephen Davis the year before that. We're going to give them the ball.
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I didn't just pull it out of my ass, i'm pretty sure henning would know what the team needs, considering he is the offensive coordinator.4/13/2006 12:03:58 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
im pretty sure spreading the field with dangerous players is the way offenses work best
just ask the rams, colts, and hell, even my giants
limiting your options on offense is just stupid no matter how you look at it 4/13/2006 12:16:28 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
going after a player you dont need and won't use is stupid as well. what good would having an outstanding receiving te do if he gets the same amount of touches that our current te's get?
also, a lot of times, the good receiving te's aren't as good at blocking. it would actually hurt carolina if they put a te on the field that could catch better than mangum, sideman, gaines, but couldn't block as well.
Im not against getting a receiving te, but there are much more pressing needs that should be addressed first and foremost, and i bet the panthers will agree come draft weekend. 4/13/2006 12:42:51 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just ask the rams, colts, and hell, even my giants" |
the rams and colts do it mainly with receiver spread formations, and rb's catching out of the backfield, and your giants did a really good job of scoring in the playoffs with that great TE.4/13/2006 12:46:56 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what good would having an outstanding receiving te do if he gets the same amount of touches that our current te's get?" |
exactly
you change your gameplan
your offense isnt exaclty what one would call "versatile"
Quote : | "the rams and colts do it mainly with receiver spread formations, and rb's catching out of the backfield, and your giants did a really good job of scoring in the playoffs with that great TE." |
again, spreading the field with dangerous targets
not limiting themselves to two WR's
and i believe the Giants scored the third most points in the NFL last year4/13/2006 1:32:46 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "your offense isnt exaclty what one would call "versatile" " |
no one ever claimed it was. Ask anyone, we live by the run, die by the run. although smitty changed that to a degree last year, everything still starts with the run, and i think that a good blocking te is more important to us than a receiving te (both for pass protection and the run). we have 2 very good receivers now, and a third that will be a factor by the end of next season (carter). i just think that we are fine at te. The only area that te is really a liability for us is the red zone, but we still get a few touchdowns a year from our te's
also, its like henning said above, most teams that have a really good receiving te, don't have a go to receiver (giants- plaxico was great until big games, then he would vanish. Chargers- gates is by far the number one receiving threat, followed by lt out of the backfield, Chiefs- behind gonzalez, they get it done with a group of average receivers, and good backs, ravens- heap was about the only good thing about the ravens last year ect....)4/13/2006 2:07:34 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
you need versatility 4/13/2006 3:30:36 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
which is why we need help for the "glass bull", known as deshaun foster, more than anything. 4/13/2006 3:32:28 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
thats not versatility 4/13/2006 3:34:59 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
i disagree. having a back like white will all us to pound the ball inside, while also allowing foster to switch it up and hit the edges, and catch passes out of the backfield.... without getting hurt (hopefully).
Like the 1-2 combo of davis and foster 3 years ago. They gave the panthers tremendous versatility. 4/13/2006 3:40:54 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
so you like the 1-2 combo when subbing in running backs
but not in subbing TE's for different personnel packages 4/13/2006 3:49:53 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
we do that! that is my point, it's not broke so don't fix it. We have 3 very capable te's for what their asked to do, and even if we get another one, he will be asked to do basically the same thing, so what's the point? 4/13/2006 3:58:51 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
sigh 4/13/2006 4:05:35 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
with that said, hopefully the Panthers will get LenDale. 4/13/2006 4:12:43 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
yep, my vote is for lendale also. 4/13/2006 4:53:38 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
There are better Tight Ends than what the Panthers have. The ones the Panthers have are not perfect. I am not saying the Panthers need to spend an early pick on a tight end, but it could definitely help take the pressure off Smith and Johnson, and could definitely be a big boost overall to the offense. The reason the tight ends don't get a lot of looks in the current Panthers offense is that they aren't good receivers. If the Panthers drafted a good catching tight end, there is no doubt his role would be expanded. 4/13/2006 5:02:17 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
exactly 4/13/2006 5:51:13 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
lol, all I know is that we didn't have a good TE last year, and we still beat the Giants. 4/13/2006 6:02:05 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Kiper just said Manny might go as high as 18 to the cowboys 4/13/2006 6:49:40 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
i want the giants to take him
he'd be perfect 4/13/2006 7:51:48 PM |
BigPapa All American 4727 Posts user info edit post |
looks like the Panthers won't be drafting LenDale White 4/13/2006 7:57:37 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
does it 4/13/2006 7:59:32 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
it was just reported that White has a hamstring tear. 4/13/2006 8:00:48 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
we could get him w/ our second rd pick now.
the panthers rb situation is looking more and more sketch. Is houston planning on keeping davis after they draft bush? 4/14/2006 10:20:34 AM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah they are planning on keeping Davis. Domanick is an above average back, but they just can't pass up on Bush, especially since both are versatile (good receivers). 4/14/2006 12:06:09 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
too bad, davis is a very good, pound it type of back who is unfortunate enough to be part of a franchise that doesn't invest in good offensive linemen. if they don't do something about that, it'll make bush look average at best. 4/14/2006 12:28:30 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
apparently the panthers expect Jenkins and Foster to both be 100% for training camp...for what its worth...its good news 4/14/2006 1:45:49 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
the question is how long will they stay healthy?
I'm worried that foster will have some type of season/career ending injury early, and if we don't have another dependable back (not goings) we can kiss our season goodbye. we could recover if Jenkins got hurt, though. 4/14/2006 1:58:45 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
i'm more optimistic about foster than some...i think he will be fine...i mean is steve smith a question mark after he broke his leg? i dunno i just think anybody can get injured on any given play, i'm just blindly hopeful about the cats haha 4/14/2006 2:01:10 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone heard the latest on Arrington? I keep hearing that he hasn't signed with anyone yet, but not why. does he want more than teams are willing to give, or what? 4/14/2006 2:08:24 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Smith WAS a question mark after his broken leg but bounced back and had an incredible year.
Foster has a question mark because he hasn't gotten back and shown he is healthy, and when he does the question mark will go away.
Smith got hurt one year, Foster has been hurt almost every year he's been with the Panthers. 4/14/2006 2:12:00 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^^^rb is such a rough position though. there haven't been many backs to suffer multiple serious injuries their first few years, and come back to have a strong career.
Hopefully DeShaun will prove nay sayers wrong.
[Edited on April 14, 2006 at 2:12 PM. Reason : ^what he said] 4/14/2006 2:12:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i just figure if fox and hurney and old richardson and all the boys have faith in deshaun, i'll give them the benefit...plus when he IS healthy, he is a beast...dragging safeties 30 yards...dragging the whole eagles team 10 yards into the end zone...running all over atlanta twice last year, etc 4/14/2006 2:13:50 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
Arrington is asking too much money. Until he's coming down with his price, nobody gonna sign him. (except maybe the Packers.) 4/14/2006 2:14:38 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
when he is healthy, he is one of the top 10 backs to watch. i have faith in the management/coaching staff too, but when seeing him repeatedly pound it between the tackles, i cant help but worry (even though 2 of his 3 major injuries were suffered while bouncing it outside).
i would just feel much better if we had a 235 lb bruiser for the inside running. 4/14/2006 2:25:44 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
mel kiper is a horrible "draft expert" 4/14/2006 5:46:43 PM |
DrOldSchool All American 2221 Posts user info edit post |
Who are you, Bill Tobin?
His mailman knows more about the draft than Mel Kiper
[Edited on April 14, 2006 at 5:52 PM. Reason : BT] 4/14/2006 5:50:23 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
my day b4 the draft mock destroys kiper's year after year 4/14/2006 5:58:48 PM |