ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
soccer still has a LOOONNNGGGG way to go 6/9/2010 7:42:41 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
sorry, the soundtrack to the 2nd vid i posted is totally gay. pump down the volume. 6/9/2010 7:44:36 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Get a Free "I Don't Believe the Liberal Media!" Bumper Sticker!" |
6/9/2010 7:44:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
if you can ignore the politics, there are still a lot of truths in that link 6/9/2010 7:56:59 PM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
^how could you possibly ignore the politics of that article? i had to stop reading because it was soooo partial to its agenda. the author very clearly tried to tie liberalism with soccer. that is stupid. it only takes a handful of conservatives who like soccer to disprove that argument. and it was the entire basis of his argument.
soccer is a liberal sport now?
6/9/2010 8:35:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
if you dont want to take the 5-6 minutes to read it, why should i offer a response
especially when he brings up quotes from soccer journalists all over the world] 6/9/2010 8:41:22 PM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
^i actually just stomached the entire article.
and i still think it's stupid. you can respond or not respond, i don't really care.
and the "quotes" from foreign journalists all fall along the line of "yeah, soccer isn't popular in the US. I don't really know why" so those don't really add any value to the article.
linking soccer to liberalism is as stupid as linking baseball to conservatism. they're sports. some people like 'em, some people don't.
[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 8:58 PM. Reason : ] 6/9/2010 8:53:03 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
image fail
[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 9:11 PM. Reason : damn]
6/9/2010 9:10:51 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Anrdes Escobar just signed his death warrant on ESPN Classic
(self-goal in USA-Columbia '94 WC)
RIP 6/9/2010 9:22:29 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Attn Soccer and Hockey Fans.
Please stop telling me I just don't understand it when I say I don't like your sport.
This isn't to bash your sport but I don't tell people that they don't understand football or baseball when you say you don't like them.
None of these games are so much more rocket science than anything else.
Also, I'm tired of working with a ton of Europeans." |
I posted this in another thread but it was locked.6/9/2010 9:40:04 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The BBC issued an apology the following day after its pundit Alan Hansen commented on another match that "the Argentine defender wants shooting for a mistake like that."" |
aha6/9/2010 9:42:17 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you just don't understand it 6/9/2010 9:45:58 PM |
stateredneck All American 2966 Posts user info edit post |
the only reason i give a fuck about the world cup is the drinking game 6/9/2010 9:54:37 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
please stateredneck
we need you as a fan to survive 6/9/2010 9:56:17 PM |
stateredneck All American 2966 Posts user info edit post |
well yall need someone cause its still "unpopular" by standards 6/9/2010 10:00:07 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
I thoroughly enjoy hockey.
Cannot stand soccer. 6/9/2010 10:05:27 PM |
nasty_b All American 1183 Posts user info edit post |
soccer is kinda like the Olympics to me. once every 4 years is awesome and i will watch every minute of it, but more than that is too much for me. 6/9/2010 10:06:29 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well yall need someone cause its still "unpopular" by standards" |
Haha.... Yeah, it's probably going to cease to exist as a sport in a decade because it's sooooo unpopular.6/10/2010 9:24:14 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well yall need someone cause its still "unpopular" by standards" |
this is the dumbest fucking thing ever said
NEWS FLASH: THE WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND AMERICA, AND THINGS ARE DIFFERENT OUTSIDE OF THIS COUNTRY.
Soccer IS the most popular sport in the world by a large margin. No informed person will argue against this.
Way to live up to your name, stateredneck.6/10/2010 10:07:31 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
the extremely poor people throughout the world love soccer
the extremely poor people in the US love basketball and football
there are more extremely poor people outside the US 6/10/2010 10:47:48 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NEWS FLASH: THE WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND AMERICA" |
newsflash: we live in America, and we like American sports, like football and basketball
Quote : | "Soccer IS the most popular sport in the world by a large margin" |
rice is the most popular food in the world...who gives a fuck...i'd rather eat a steak and baked potato]6/10/2010 11:30:47 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
U-S-A! U-S-A!
I've always been curious - I know foreign sports like tennis and hockey have never been popular either but why isn't there a crusade against them like there is for soccer? It just seems like people go out of their way to hate on it. 6/10/2010 11:34:26 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
the original American sport -- killing Injuns 6/10/2010 11:35:44 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
it doesn't seem like people ever really try and push tennis or hockey on the masses and try and force them to like it or try and convince them how they are supposed to care about it like soccer] 6/10/2010 11:35:50 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
anybody can grab a random friend and go out and play a good tennis match
you can't just grab a buddy and play one-on-one soccer
tennis is more playable
and yes, there are some people who outright HATE hockey 6/10/2010 11:39:20 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I just hate it when someone says you are stupid for enjoying one particular sport just because that person doesn't enjoy the game. It's kinda like music who the fuck cares what you like I may think country music is almost unbearable to listen to but that doesnt make someone else wrong for enjoying it. That being said I plan on watching every single match this world cup 6/10/2010 11:40:34 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "anybody can grab a random friend and go out and play a good tennis match
you can't just grab a buddy and play one-on-one soccer
tennis is more playable " |
How is this relevant to anything? Every major sport in America is a team sport that you can't just go out and plan one-on-one. At least in the sports intended form.]6/10/2010 11:42:01 AM |
stillrolling All American 1225 Posts user info edit post |
soccer doesnt get pushed on America any more than hockey does or any other sport. just because people are putting it in their magazines and advertising for it, they wouldnt push it if it wasn't going to make them money. everybody seems to have this paranoid "stop pushing soccer on us" complex...i really dont give a shit if you watch it or not, its just annoying when unprovoked people bash it. 6/10/2010 11:42:23 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Once every four years, there's a media blitz. In the time of the year when the only other thing going on is baseball so it's not exactly stealing attention away from anything.
In between that, soccer gets the same run on ESPN that stupid shit like billiards and poker get. There are never articles (hell, even box scores) in newspapers or magazines. Most games are limited to a soccer-specific channel or at 7:30 in the morning or 2:30 in the afternoon once a week. How exactly is soccer forced on you? 6/10/2010 11:42:47 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah maybe soccer doesn't get pushed on the masses as much as some other sports all of the time, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think it gets pushed on the masses more than other sports in the time leading up to the World Cup
Maybe I'll give a shit about how important soccer is to the world when people in China and France and Germany give a fuck about NC State football and basketball...THE WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND CHINA AND FRANCE AND GERMANY, right God? 6/10/2010 11:46:12 AM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "soccer is kinda like the Olympics to me. once every 4 years is awesome and i will watch every minute of it, but more than that is too much for me." |
6/10/2010 11:47:36 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
How about two weeks of Super Bowl hype with like the same 3 fucking stories that we hear over and over and over again on every single sports radio show, tv show, and sports website? NO/Katrina, Bettis/Detroit, Patriots/Undefeated, etc.
March Madness is hyped up by people that know jack shit about basketball. I mean, damn, can we talk more about brackets and office pools and loss in work productivity?
Every sport is hyped up too much. It just so happens that you like one sport and not the other so it annoys you more.
[Edited on June 10, 2010 at 11:51 AM. Reason : .] 6/10/2010 11:50:27 AM |
nasty_b All American 1183 Posts user info edit post |
who gets hated on more Nascar or soccer? who gets more defensive about being hated on? 6/10/2010 11:50:29 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah maybe soccer doesn't get pushed on the masses as much as some other sports all of the time, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think it gets pushed on the masses more than other sports in the time leading up to the World Cup" |
The only reason for that is because they want ratings. You should levy your complaints at broadcasters instead of soccer fans.
The world cup IS the most watched sporting event in history, just not in the US. Each four years they try to give it another shot to see if people want to watch.
Quote : | "Maybe I'll give a shit about how important soccer is to the world when people in China and France and Germany give a fuck about NC State football and basketball...THE WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND CHINA AND FRANCE AND GERMANY, right God?" |
That's a retarded analogy. And besides, there are professional basketball leagues in all of those countries.6/10/2010 11:51:06 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
greatest thread bump EVER 6/10/2010 11:52:47 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The world cup IS the most watched sporting event in history, just not in the US" |
Where do you live motherfucker kind sir?]6/10/2010 11:53:05 AM |
stillrolling All American 1225 Posts user info edit post |
the thing is... you never have the "damn I hate the NFL" or "damn the NBA sucks" type shit you have with soccer. every 4 years every dickhead that sees a soccer commercial wants to come out and proclaim why they hate soccer. this isnt the "official you must watch soccer, the world loves it, so must you!" thread. 6/10/2010 11:57:04 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you never have the..."damn the NBA sucks" type shit you have with soccer" |
ORLY??6/10/2010 12:04:16 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^^ oddly enough, this IS the official I hate soccer thread. 6/10/2010 12:06:29 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
i hate soccer year in, year out -- I only express my hatred once every 4 years
kinda like when I pull out my "I HATE REPUBLICANS" shirt in 2008 and again in 2012 6/10/2010 12:22:29 PM |
stateredneck All American 2966 Posts user info edit post |
Awesome. Let the nigerians get excited for their soccer and I will eagerly await football season. But lets remember this is the I hate soccer thread. If you want to make an I hate america thread because we dont adore soccer go ahead. I wont post in it. 6/10/2010 12:40:29 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
You do realize the rest of the world just sort of scratches their head at the American self-masturbation around gridiron football, right? 6/10/2010 12:53:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Yes we realize it, and no we don't give a shit.
And theres no need to specify "gridiron" football.
This is TWW. If you say "football" we all know you mean American football and not soccer.
Get off your mightly global citizen high horse.] 6/10/2010 12:55:24 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^^ and, like the position everyone takes to anything you post, we dont give a shit. 6/10/2010 12:57:46 PM |
nasty_b All American 1183 Posts user info edit post |
Oh no! theres a message board in argentina saying tackle football sucks. the NFL is in big trouble!!! 6/10/2010 12:59:42 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
u nasty_b 6/10/2010 1:06:07 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes we realize it, and no we don't give a shit." |
YET,
THIS THREAD6/10/2010 1:10:40 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
sense, make it 6/10/2010 1:15:16 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
American exceptionalism is the theory that the United States occupies a special niche among the nations of the world in terms of its national credo, historical evolution, political and religious institutions, and its being built by immigrants. The roots of the belief are attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville, who claimed that the then-50-year-old United States held a special place among nations, because it was the first working representative democracy.
The theory of American exceptionalism has a number of opponents, especially from the Left, who argue that the belief is "self-serving and jingoistic," that it is based on a myth, and that "there is a growing refusal to accept" the idea of exceptionalism both nationally and internationally.
The basis most commonly cited for American exceptionalism is the idea that the United States and its people differ from other nations, at least on a historical basis, as an association of people who came from numerous places throughout the world but who hold a common bond in standing for certain self-evident truths, like freedom, inalienable natural and human rights, democracy, republicanism, the rule of law, civil liberty, civic virtue, the common good, fair play, private property, and Constitutional government. The term is also used by United States citizens to indicate that America and Americans have different states of mind, different surroundings, and different political cultures than other nations, and still others use it to refer to the American dream and the slow yet continuous journey of the people of the United States, sharing a nation and a destiny, to build a more perfect union, to live up to the dreams, hopes, and ideals of its founders, so that "these dead shall not have died in vain – that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom – and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from this Earth."
Researchers and academics, however, generally use the term "American exceptionalism" to strictly mean sharp and measurable differences in public opinion and political behavior between Americans and their counterparts in other developed democracies.
Persons who are not supporters of the theory of American exceptionalism often argue that it is equivalent to jingoism and nationalist propaganda. In their arguments, they often compare the US to other countries that have claimed an exceptional nature or destiny. Examples in more recent times include the UK at the height of the British Empire, as well the USSR, France and Nazi Germany; while many historic empires such as Ancient Rome, China, the Spanish Empire and a wide range of minor kingdoms and tribes have also embraced exceptionalism. In each case, a basis was presented as to why the country was exceptional compared to all other countries, drawing upon circumstance, cultural background and mythos, and self-perceived national aims. 6/10/2010 1:19:10 PM |
stateredneck All American 2966 Posts user info edit post |
Single greatest country ever
[Edited on June 10, 2010 at 1:24 PM. Reason : AMURICAN PRIDE]
6/10/2010 1:23:41 PM |