Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
I look forward to hearing some peoples' "explanations" for global warming on Pluto, Mars and Triton
Especially when one of the articles is titled "Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists"
How can scientists be puzzled if they understand SO MUCH about global warming? 1/23/2007 5:29:17 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
i'm gonna out on a limb and say that we know very little about pluto 1/23/2007 5:32:03 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
but dont we know:
- its getting hotter - there arent humans there to cause it to get hotter
???
maybe al gore could explain it..im sure our exhaust from our cars is going up to outer space and ending up on pluto perhaps? yeah people will believe it! 1/23/2007 5:35:21 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
What is the point of talking about other planets? Do you really think all these scientists in their experiments never considered that our global warming can be natural? 1/23/2007 6:25:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you really think all these scientists in their experiments never considered that our global warming can be natural?" |
I've been saying that all along, but according to people in this thread, there is no doubt that humans are the major cause1/23/2007 9:38:52 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^ what part of carbon emissions don't you understand? 1/23/2007 10:04:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
i dont understand the carbon emissions causing global warming on mars, pluto or triton...please explain why mars, pluto and neptune's moon triton have been experiencing global warming 1/23/2007 10:05:54 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
i don't know a goddamned thing about motherfucking Pluto
and neither do you.
[Edited on January 23, 2007 at 10:21 PM. Reason : ] 1/23/2007 10:19:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
i know theres global warming on pluto and there are no humans on pluto
please explain how that can be! 1/23/2007 10:24:09 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've been saying that all along, but according to people in this thread, there is no doubt that humans are the major cause" |
I wasn't directing it to you, I was directing it to the person who used this logical fallacy to claim that AGW is a hoax.1/23/2007 10:25:54 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
hell, even Bush said that we need to confront global warming in the state of the union, so at least he (in public) has recognized a significant problem exists 1/23/2007 10:26:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
how much of the other things Bush said do you believe?
but overall those speeches are so predictable, of course he's gonna talk about global warming, jobs, the military, etc...same old same
i'm asking joe schmoe to explain the global warming on pluto http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html
he's so smart and all since he moved away from the hillbilly south out to seattle
[Edited on January 23, 2007 at 10:28 PM. Reason : .] 1/23/2007 10:26:59 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
I don't believe that he believes it's a priority, but I also believe that you have not studied positive reinforcement feedback loops, creeping normalcy or linear regression models on temperature variations. Fact is, you can't justify your position without statistics, which means most of your posts are opinion based and erroneous. Produce some facts, or shut up. 1/23/2007 10:32:22 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
where are your facts? throw around some stat terms and its supposed to make you seem smart? 1/23/2007 11:03:28 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
Hey, you are the one talking about Pluto here, all the rest of us are on Earth 1/23/2007 11:10:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe if I oversimplify it you might begin to understand what I'm getting at:
- The Earth is getting hotter - Pluto is getting hotter - The Earth has people on it emitting CO2 - Pluto has no people on it
If Pluto is getting hotter and there are no people on Pluto, that means something other than humans are causing global warming on Pluto. Why are you so certain that people are causing global warming on Earth? 1/23/2007 11:12:38 PM |
TypeA Suspended 3327 Posts user info edit post |
That's some solid scientific method you just employed there Einstein! 1/23/2007 11:16:36 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm asking joe schmoe to explain the global warming on pluto" |
Pluto has a revolutionary period of ~250 earth-years.
Pluto is 6 billion KM from sun, compared to the earth's 150 million KM
Pluto's mass is about 1/500ths that of earth.
Pluto's has a wispy-thin atmosphere of methane.
Pluto's average temperature is -215 C
Pluto is covered in ice and volcanoes.
....
Pluto is about 2 C warmer than 13 years ago, when it was at its perihelion (closest distance to sun). this is adequately explained by its highly elliptical orbit ... and basic thermodynamics, perhaps you've heard of it.
For you to go about and dismiss hundreds of thousands of years of antarctic data, and DIRECT *real-time* observational data correlating global tempeature with atmospheric carbon -- just because a frozen little speck of a non-planet is fluctuating a couple degrees 40-times farther away from the sun than we are...
well then you're a goddamned fool, and you should have your BS degree revoked because you obviously didnt learn a fucking thing about science.
[Edited on January 23, 2007 at 11:19 PM. Reason : ]1/23/2007 11:16:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists" |
^so the scientists who have actually studied Pluto are puzzled, but you have it all figured out!
let alone, you just said this
Quote : | "i don't know a goddamned thing about motherfucking Pluto" |
I'm sure you have it all figured out!
Quote : | "just because a frozen little speck of a non-planet is fluctuating a couple degrees" |
hey that little rock 93,000,000 miles from the sun has only fluctuated a couple degrees over the last century or so!]1/23/2007 11:20:36 PM |
TypeA Suspended 3327 Posts user info edit post |
It's pretty obvious the guy is just a troll, or he really is stupid. That's about the only way to explain his postings.
Just put it this way, I've been around since before he came here. For years, virtually 100% of his post content was about the NBA, weed, and hip hop music, with random smatterings about other sports, entertainment, and chit chat topics.
Now, all of a sudden he is a Soap Box "expert". 1/23/2007 11:21:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
^i know more about climate change than your pot kettle troll ass 1/23/2007 11:24:28 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so the scientists who have actually studied Pluto are puzzled" |
you fucking retard, if you would read the article, rather than just the headline, you would see that the scientists are not "puzzled". they have a number of theories, most of which involve classic thermodynamics and volcanic activity.
if your little drug-addled brain cant wrap around the concept that Pluto is a completely different dynamic than earth, then I don't know what else to tell you.
and i for one, dont think you ever graduated from state with an MEA. i'm betting you flunked out shortly after matriculation. or maybe you just took a couple classes at Wake Tech.
All thats for sure is that youre just a pathetic troll who obviously doesnt know what the hell you're even talking about.
[Edited on January 23, 2007 at 11:41 PM. Reason : ]1/23/2007 11:29:23 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on January 23, 2007 at 11:38 PM. Reason : forget it. im done with you. talking to you is pointless.]
1/23/2007 11:34:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148444 Posts user info edit post |
i swear, i left NC to get away from you people 1/23/2007 11:51:45 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
Heres why the Pluto argument is total bs.
-incoming solar radiation to the earth has never changed (earth and pluto share no other traits that would cause both of them to warm) -no mass enters or exits the earth (with the exception of shuttles, asteroids etc) -every planet undergoes cyclic warming and cooling (its 99% likely that earth's is not cyclic because this is different and more profound than any peak ever) 1/24/2007 12:36:15 AM |