^the socialization problem is a myth. Homeshooling is the best option if you can do it and are not a complete moron. And even if you are a moron chances are so is your kid so hey at least you'll be at their level

Seriously though, I think the option that has served a lot of people I have met is taking college courses in HS. This applies to the homeschooling option just as well. Once you take a few college courses it speaks to your ability so getting into a good college is easier and you can get further in the subject that is your passion. Long term benefits are hard to overstate.

I had friends who went to NCSSM and were fairly sucessful, but there is (or was) a problem getting courses to count (at NCSU). So they'd end up taking courses over again that they didn't need to. Obviously if you took the course at university its easier to transfer. I like the idea of NCSSM but I think more forward thinking about transferring credits needs to be done. I think I heard that NCSSM is becoming part of the UNC-system so maybe this will be less of an issue in future years.

Another friend I have complains that NCSSM doesn't encourage enough competition so some kids can slack through the program. I don't know how wide-spread this problem is. Clearly NCSSM serves some kids well like the ones mention earlier in this thread.

3/31/2007 4:13:10 PM

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"chaoticbliss: why? it's cheaper than private school. they would only need to attend "class" about 4 hours out of the day instead of wasting their ENTIRE day at a public school. they will have more hours in the day for enriching activities. more field trips. they will have a healthy lunch and snack. they will learn how to interract with more than just their immediate peers. they will have more options as to what they learn - italian, spanish, afrikaans. they will have the opportunity to flourish in the areas which they are best at and love most. and they will respect the shit out of me, the all-knowing one!"

AHA, that last line pretty much sums up what's wrong with homeschooling.

(You're pathetic, by the way.)

3/31/2007 7:31:36 PM

^ have a sense of humor by chance?

3/31/2007 9:10:52 PM

Grain of truth, etc...

3/31/2007 9:28:45 PM

i think we're probably gonna do private for elementary and middle school. I would prefer public high school if theres a superior public magnet-type option. if not, then we'll have to go with the best private option available.

FWIW, i *know* theres gonna be cliques in every highschool public or private. i was just wondering if there was that "cool to be stupid" mentality in private schools as there are in most public schools.

anyhow, i appreciate everyone's contribution. a lot of good stuff.


but this was particulary funny to me for some reason:

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"mootduff: it sounds like OP never went to school and just got his view of schools through too many 80's movies "

i *WENT* to high school in the late 80's. and unfortunately, those movies were pretty accurate.

3/31/2007 10:49:26 PM

It all depends on the private school. I think you're ignoring all the different private school types. I went to a college prep school, and being called the "stupid kid" would be highly embarassing.

I went to private and public during HS. Public I found there were so many kids in my class (700) that it would have been impossible to group according to the normal stereotypes. Basically you just found a few friends who shared classes/sports and stuck with them if you could.

Private school was less stereotyped as well, since we were all there by choice for academics. Our classes were small too, so cliques were actually more damaging since you'd inadvertently have to hang out or work with everyone at one point or another.

And BTW, private teachers don't get paid more. They got paid less at my school, but they just choose that so they could write their own curiculum, not have to deal with the politics of public school, and benefit from smaller class sizes. They DEFINATELY didn't get much else other than that, specially since the parents pretty much got 90% say of what went on.

3/31/2007 11:11:59 PM

I certaintly didn't have a problem getting NCSU to count NCSSM classes. I came in with 24 hours and only took one AP exam.

3/31/2007 11:55:01 PM

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"i think we're probably gonna do private for elementary and middle school. I would prefer public high school if theres a superior public magnet-type option. if not, then we'll have to go with the best private option available."

This just seems really snobby. In Wake County, for example, most of the high schools are good. Sending your kid to Ravenscroft instead of Leesville because Enloe (the superior public-type magnet) wasn't an option would be ridiculous.

4/1/2007 4:41:03 PM

to have such strong opinions on this topic, you must have some valid experience from which to contribute. care to share?

4/1/2007 4:47:07 PM

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"I had friends who went to NCSSM and were fairly sucessful, but there is (or was) a problem getting courses to count (at NCSU). I think I heard that NCSSM is becoming part of the UNC-system so maybe this will be less of an issue in future years."

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"I certaintly didn't have a problem getting NCSU to count NCSSM classes. I came in with 24 hours and only took one AP exam."

Same here, I had 30 credit hours transfer just fine. I took two APs- US History and Chemistry. I got out of my American History requirement and Chem 101 and 201 that way. My Calculus from NCSSM counted after I passed Cal III. I took some departmental placement tests and got out of some physics and foreign language courses, too.

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"Another friend I have complains that NCSSM doesn't encourage enough competition so some kids can slack through the program"

Passing your classes there is sometimes hard enough, so I don't know if "slacking" is what any kid really does there. Competition shouldn't be the only thing that makes kids want to succeed, anyway. I worked really hard there, but I was never the kid with the 1600 SAT score (though trust me, there were several there). I mean, you go from being one of the top people in your class at your old school to being completely average. While that can seem like a blow to the ego, it's important to learn early on that there are a lot of people you'll encounter who are simply a lot smarter than you in many fields. Learning from them rather than competing with them was extremely important. At the same time, you can figure out what you personally want to focus on without the added pressure of knowing that you're only five points behind Billy for valedictorian. I really enjoyed the lack of competition, but I certainly didn't slack off.

[Edited on April 1, 2007 at 5:59 PM. Reason : .]

4/1/2007 5:46:54 PM

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"Sending your kid to Ravenscroft instead of Leesville because Enloe (the superior public-type magnet) wasn't an option would be ridiculous."

i would compare the metrics of the two schools.

particularly % accepted into 4 year universities, and % performing at or above grade level on the standardized tests.

i would also try to ask a sampling of kids from each about what they thought of their school.

if the numbers were close, and i found that ravenscroft kids were a bunch of snottly little elitist pricks, i very well might choose the public.

but i also wouldnt limit my private choices to only ravenscroft.

4/1/2007 8:35:29 PM

Disclaimer-I didn't read the whole thread. here's my 2 cents

I went to carolina friends school for 2 years in high school. most of the kids there had known eachother their whole lives. it was very hard to make friends and get to know people, and it didn't help that I wasn't one of durham/ chapel hill's elite. There were around 75 kids in the whole upper school, so everyone, knew everyone. They only let a couple new kids in each year, and I was one of them.

I went to public high school before it, and honestly think it was stricter as far as academics went than the private school. the friends school was very loose as far as academic standards went- the students pretty much got to set dates for projects to be due, there were no desks, just couches and big chairs in all the classrooms. Basically the students ran shit, not the teachers. There were a lot more rules in place at public school whereas private school was pretty lax. And I think most of the problems stemmed from the fact that most of the students were very wealthy.

Public school sucked. so did a $15,000 a year private school. I graduated through homeschooling. I liked that much better. It just depends on the person, and how they are wired. some folks do great in school. others not so much. college didn't work for me real well either. everybody learns different. you just have to find the right thing that clicks.

I got sent to private school because I was a fuckup. there were a ton of drugs there, among other shit.

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"haha theres one of those in Durham. Its called Carolina Friends. They are about a step away from wearing loin cloths, smoking weed in a circle, and singing kumbayah (sp?)"

lol

4/1/2007 9:28:46 PM

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"Passing your classes there is sometimes hard enough, so I don't know if "slacking" is what any kid really does there. Competition shouldn't be the only thing that makes kids want to succeed, anyway. I worked really hard there, but I was never the kid with the 1600 SAT score (though trust me, there were several there). I mean, you go from being one of the top people in your class at your old school to being completely average. While that can seem like a blow to the ego, it's important to learn early on that there are a lot of people you'll encounter who are simply a lot smarter than you in many fields. Learning from them rather than competing with them was extremely important. At the same time, you can figure out what you personally want to focus on without the added pressure of knowing that you're only five points behind Billy for valedictorian. I really enjoyed the lack of competition, but I certainly didn't slack off."

That's good you had the discipline to learn in that environment, but the guy I know really did slack off, so much so that he has failed and retook classes at NCSU (as a consequence of his previous slackness at NCSSM according to my source). Perhaps he is an exception to the rule.

I'd rather have my kid take classes at some place like NCSU, competition is real and unavoidable in this world. Not that it is the sole motivator, I know people in my major who were in it purely to compete, that burns out quickly, folks like me who had genuine passion last longer and ultimately do better. But I also compete, its a good thing, it keeps me from getting to slack if nothing else.

4/1/2007 10:56:27 PM

There are benefits to public school outside of the pure academic considerations. In my experience, coming through the public schools can make you a more well-rounded person because you have to learn to relate to a diverse cross-section of individuals. People that don't learn this in adolescence typically will never be able to empathize with or relate to people different from themself.

Honestly, there are only 3 reasons I could ever see myself putting my kids in private K-12 schools.
1) The public schools being unsafe
2) The academics being very bad
3) The kid having special needs that aren't being met at a public school

4/2/2007 7:00:23 AM

joe_schmoe, I actually had some more insight into this topic. When it comes to middle school, high school, you should let your child decide.

4/2/2007 9:10:00 AM

Now that it has been mentioned I forgot to say that I was homeschooled for a couple years also. 1st-3rd grade and then like 6th while I was in europe while my dad was on sabbatical.

I actually enjoyed it for the most part other than my mom being a commie teacher. I wouldn't suggest it past the early years though. Kids need to get out and socialize. Who cares if your the smartest person if you can't have a competent conversation with people you don't know or can't maintain a good image in uncomfortable social situations. Thats my theory atleast.

Anyway I think early homeschooling helped me out and put me ahead of the curve early on. I never had trouble in school although I didn't consider myself smart at the time (I was always living in the shadow of my perfect academic wise older brother who I wasn't able to one up until college- a high 1400's score on the SAT doesn't seem impressive to anyone when your brother got high 1500's )

4/2/2007 12:20:28 PM

I went to summer camp with a guy who went to Carolina Friends.

He didn't wear shoes.

4/2/2007 1:47:58 PM

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"When it comes to middle school, high school, you should let your child decide."

interesting. why do you think a 5th or 6th grader can see beyond the immediate "i wanna go to _____ because _____ goes there"

4/2/2007 8:56:01 PM

^According to Erik Erikson's ideas about the different stages of development, children begin to think about their identity (Who am I? What are my values?) at the start of adolescence (ages 11-15). Most of us will try on a number of different hats during this period that can last until our early 20s. Anyway, I think you should begin to give your child as much autonomy as possible as he or she tries to sort out his or her identity, and this includes allowing him or her to pick his or her school.

[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 10:38 PM. Reason : ]

4/3/2007 10:36:38 PM

when i was 15.. i decided NOT to go to school. and my parents let me. yeah, that was smart. letting a child decided between public/private/home is ridiculous. how are they going to weigh the advantages of one over the other without having any experience?

yes, an 11-15 yr old should be allowed to dye their hair, and express themselves through clothing, but they do not have experience enough to determine where they will get the best education.

4/3/2007 10:43:22 PM

I haven't read through this entire thread, but here's my personal experience:

I went to public school until 8th grade. I got picked on constantly for being "too smart."

I then went to private school in 9th and 10th grade. I still got picked on, just by fewer people because the class sizes were smaller.

I then went to the Alabama School of Math & Science. I didn't get picked on, I found out about NC State and some great scholarships, and now I am making $Texas while all my tormenters are either knocked up, in jail, or in some other hopeless situation.

My advice: send the kid to public school, but do not under any circumstances limit her education to what she learns in school. My parents had me doing multiplication at 6 and writing in cursive around the same age. Did that make me smarter? Probably not, but it put me ahead.

And remember, torment from your peers at an early age builds the kind of character and spiteful bitterness necessary to become successful and rub it into others' faces on down the road.

4/3/2007 10:44:45 PM

^ hear, hear

[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 10:59 PM. Reason : ]

4/3/2007 10:46:07 PM

thank you

[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 11:11 PM. Reason : ]

4/3/2007 10:52:22 PM

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"BamaPack: I then went to the Alabama School of Math & Science. I didn't get picked on, I found out about NC State and some great scholarships, and now I am making $Texas while all my tormenters are either knocked up, in jail, or in some other hopeless situation."

Keep telling yourself this.

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"BamaPack: My advice: send the kid to public school, but do not under any circumstances limit her education to what she learns in school. My parents had me doing multiplication at 6 and writing in cursive around the same age. Did that make me smarter? Probably not, but it put me ahead."

I learned to write in cursive (before print), and I was doing algebra at 6. And that's still not notable.

(You sound like a douche that I would make fun of.)

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"BamaPack: And remember, torment from your peers at an early age builds the kind of character and spiteful bitterness necessary to become successful and rub it into others' faces on down the road."

You're pathetic.

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"chaoticbliss: when i was 15.. i decided NOT to go to school. and my parents let me. yeah, that was smart. letting a child decided between public/private/home is ridiculous. how are they going to weigh the advantages of one over the other without having any experience? yes, an 11-15 yr old should be allowed to dye their hair, and express themselves through clothing, but they do not have experience enough to determine where they will get the best education."

Kids know what they like and where they'll be the most comfortable. And that's very, very important. That's one of the main factors in determining where a child will get the best education.

It's not like I'm suggesting you force them to choose randomly. You take them to the different schools to visit and explain what you know to them, of course.

[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 11:46 PM. Reason : Can't stop the edits...]

4/3/2007 11:31:43 PM

[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 11:43 PM. Reason : consolidated]

4/3/2007 11:39:51 PM

Bridget.. Obama may be a little spiteful from his experiences as an adolescent but in the last 3 post youve made yourself out to be a cold heartless bitch ( for lack of a better term ) when you were young. I guess his statement shined some sort of truth to your eyes when evaluating yours and his place in life but its disappointing to see you name calling someone who's used his torments as a child/teen to prosper in life, although his statement about rubbing it into peoples face is a bit childish.

4/4/2007 12:57:13 AM

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"OneNighter86: Bridget.. Obama may be a little spiteful from his experiences as an adolescent but in the last 3 post youve made yourself out to be a cold heartless bitch ( for lack of a better term ) when you were young."

I was a chubby and intensely emotional child. It was genuinely entertaining and sometimes frightening/disturbing to see me get upset, and plenty of me peers played to that and teased me quite a bit. I was never the tormentor. But I don't create imaginary worlds in my mind where every perceived offender is suffering a horrible fate, and if I ever achieve some sort of kick ass success in my life, I have no intentions of rubbing it anyone's face.

I mean, the guy needs to be honest with himself on a couple things. 1) Kids grow up. They change. And some of them are leading successful lives. 2) Some kids don't grow up. They're the same douche bags they were as children. And some of them are also leading successful lives (and they don't give a shit about him or his childhood).

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"OneNighter86: I guess his statement shined some sort of truth to your eyes when evaluating yours and his place in life but its disappointing to see you name calling someone who's used his torments as a child/teen to prosper in life, although his statement about rubbing it into peoples face is a bit childish."

Come again? Did you word something incorrectly?

Cause it seems like, in that first bit, you're implying that I'm calling him pathetic because I've done some sort of evaluation of our "places in life" and am distraught with this "truth." In truth, I called him pathetic because he's pathetic.

And as far as him using his torments to prosper in life, reread it. It's not some story about how he turned all that hurt and negativity into positive energy to succeed. It's about "spiteful bitterness." Nevermind that he's full of shit when he says "torment from your peers at an early age builds the kind of character and spiteful bitterness necessary to become successful..." Does it really? Are children who are tormented at an early age somehow more likely to be successful than kids who are not? Let's bring this back to reality here.

4/4/2007 10:06:46 AM

^x7, x6, x5 And that is why I generally don't like **SSM kids.

[Edited on April 4, 2007 at 10:16 AM. Reason : ^]

4/4/2007 10:15:07 AM

What I was trying to imply was that maybe when you were a teen you were one of the kids making fun of others, noticeably or not, and now at your current affairs in life arent as successful as obama and feel the need to call him names when he just simply said that he used his torments to succeed in life.


And I was a little drunk when I wrote my statement but I dont see how you wouldnt be able to comprehend it as it is.

4/4/2007 10:20:28 AM

I thought Bridget's post was dead on

4/4/2007 10:22:07 AM

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"OneNighter86: What I was trying to imply was that maybe when you were a teen you were one of the kids making fun of others, noticeably or not, and now at your current affairs in life arent as successful as obama and feel the need to call him names when he just simply said that he used his torments to succeed in life."

Yeah, I got this. "Come again?" was supposed to be an opportunity for you to take it back.

I didn't call him names necessarily. "Pathetic" is not a name, but that's beside the point. In a roundabout way, you did call me a "cold heartless bitch." Maybe there's something wrong with you that you would feel the need to call me a cold, heartless bitch. Or maybe, just maybe, you called me a cold, heartless bitch because you think I'm a cold, heartless bitch. You know, the same way I said BamaPack was pathetic. Do you follow?

And by the way, my "current affairs in life" have never been successful, and it would be foolish to attribute all my opinions to my lack of success.

4/4/2007 1:13:38 PM

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"Yeah, I got this. "Come again?" was supposed to be an opportunity for you to take it back."

Didnt know you cared

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"I didn't call him names necessarily. "Pathetic" is not a name, but that's beside the point. In a roundabout way, you did call me a "cold heartless bitch." Maybe there's something wrong with you that you would feel the need to call me a cold, heartless bitch. Or maybe, just maybe, you called me a cold, heartless bitch because you think I'm a cold, heartless bitch. You know, the same way I said BamaPack was pathetic. Do you follow? "

" Pathetic " carries the same negative connotations as if one were to say " ugly " or " stupid " and in all essence carrying the same affect. As for me saying you're a cold heartless bitch, well I was a bit drunk and didnt really mean to say it but I couldnt think of anything else at the time (*for lack of a better term ). I dont think youre a cold heartless bitch, but at times you can be real adamant about stuff that you would be better of letting go because both parties where somehow affected in the past ( perhaps you name calling/making fun of kids in grade school vs him being the one that was being made fun of ).

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"And by the way, my "current affairs in life" have never been successful, and it would be foolish to attribute all my opinions to my lack of success."

I disagree. You think and therefor you are. And perhaps what you believed to be is true are the reasons where you are. Opinions do matter, even if they're negative. They affect you all in their own way.




And hey, sorry about the " cold heartless bitch " thing. Wasnt my place to be saying that

4/4/2007 7:45:58 PM

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"^x7, x6, x5 And that is why I generally don't like **SSM kids."

Because I corrected someone's grammar and thanked her for fixing it? The "thank you" was to the poster above me, who had typed "here, here" instead of "hear, hear."



[Edited on April 4, 2007 at 8:04 PM. Reason : I don't like Bama's attitude either. But feel free to stereotype me, since you want to soooo badly.]

4/4/2007 7:55:17 PM

Sorry StillFuchsia... I guess it should have just been ^x7, x6 in this case.

I read the post after the edit so I would have no idea that you were thanking him for correcting his grammar. I just assumed you were agreeing with them both. (I'll leave correcting grammar on a message board alone as you are an English major and perhaps that irks you)

4/4/2007 8:25:30 PM

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"" Pathetic " carries the same negative connotations as if one were to say " ugly " or " stupid " and in all essence carrying the same affect. As for me saying you're a cold heartless bitch, well I was a bit drunk and didnt really mean to say it but I couldnt think of anything else at the time (*for lack of a better term ). I dont think youre a cold heartless bitch, but at times you can be real adamant about stuff that you would be better of letting go because both parties where somehow affected in the past ( perhaps you name calling/making fun of kids in grade school vs him being the one that was being made fun of )."

I tend not to let things go. That's true.

And I didn't make fun of other children in grade school, by the way. Don't know why you're hung up on that...

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"I disagree. You think and therefor you are. And perhaps what you believed to be is true are the reasons where you are. Opinions do matter, even if they're negative. They affect you all in their own way."

Okay, fine. You can feel free to attribute every opinion I have to my low "place in life."

And I'll tell you to go fuck yourself. Fuckface.

[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 5:09 AM. Reason : ]

4/5/2007 5:07:47 AM

^you wouldn't say it to their face, now would you?

4/5/2007 5:19:55 AM

Actually, yes, I would, and I have...when people start talking about how they were made fun of for being smart and how all those kids are now "in jail or knocked up" (this is what they always say) and how they're successful and blah, blah, blah...it is just so fucking lame. If there was a brief pause in the conversation, my typical response would be... "Come on, dude. That's just pathetic. You can't possibly mean that..."

I have a lot of these opinions, and I normally just wait a couple beats, and if nobody says anything, I'll jump in with it. But normally the conversation goes on pleasantly, and there's really no place for me to share a criticism.

As far as the "go fuck yourself" part, I'd probably say that word for word to OneNighter86's face. It's really a dismissive phrase in this case, not challenging or angry or anything...

[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 5:39 AM. Reason : sss]

4/5/2007 5:35:44 AM

something tells me you're more likely to just argue with people and insult them over the computer

you seem like you don't get out much

4/5/2007 5:38:30 AM

^I'm definitely more likely to argue over the computer. Like I said, in face-to-face communication, there aren't many pauses in conversation for me to become argumentative with other people. I'd have to bring shit back up at the end of the conversation, and people would be like, "WTF are you talking about?"

And I don't get out much anymore. You're very perceptive.

4/5/2007 5:41:39 AM

i bet she could suck a mean dick tho...

4/5/2007 5:42:30 AM

^^why is that? afraid?

4/5/2007 5:56:04 AM

at least she doesnt buy a fucking wolfweb name the day of the egg hunt...

4/5/2007 6:29:04 AM

thought it was a good time to join

been lurkin for a while

4/5/2007 6:43:59 AM

bwn?

4/5/2007 12:19:42 PM

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"Okay, fine. You can feel free to attribute every opinion I have to my low "place in life." And I'll tell you to go fuck yourself. Fuckface."

never did I say you were in a " low " place in life. I just compared it to bama's current affairs. And come on..... " Fuckface ", you could have come up with something better than that.

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"Actually, yes, I would, and I have...when people start talking about how they were made fun of for being smart and how all those kids are now "in jail or knocked up" (this is what they always say) and how they're successful and blah, blah, blah...it is just so fucking lame. If there was a brief pause in the conversation, my typical response would be... "Come on, dude. That's just pathetic. You can't possibly mean that...""

You say this like its happened several times. If so, than why?. And being made of for being smart is their way and excuse to deny the fact that they were being made fun of for " not fitting in " either it be fronm the way they looked, spoke, or what they liked.

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"As far as the "go fuck yourself" part, I'd probably say that word for word to OneNighter86's face. It's really a dismissive phrase in this case, not challenging or angry or anything..."

what?. If you're going to say something like that than why say it at all if you dont have any emotion behind it? And really, would you say that word for word to my face? over some meaningless internet argument. Id understand if it were a real life argument.



and hey, you can go fuck yourself too....in a dismissive, not angry or challenging way too

4/5/2007 3:36:23 PM

I went to J.H. Rose High School(also known as Greenville Rose), and anyone who is from east of Raleigh, NC knows that Rose sets the standard for Schools public or private in the Eastern part of the state. Rose was about 70% white, 20% blk, and 10% everything else. Yes there were cliques, but that is a apart of the academic environment at Rose. Yes, I had friends in all of the cliques..and I was in hs from '94-'98 and I had friends in mostly all of the cliques at Rose...the jocks, preps, goths, nerds, band geeks, the my parents have as much $$ as Oprah cliques, etc....your kdis experiences will be based on all of these positive and negative experiences in school. As, someone who currently works at a private high school here in Ch. Hill, I can tell you that if I had my high school years to do over again I would choose J.H. Rose High School IN A HEARTBEAT..HANDS DOWN....My graduating class had 333 students, and over 200 of us went to 4 year or 2 year colleges/universities, our valedictorian and saludetorian got full rides to Harvard, we had 8 kids get the Morehead, 3 get the Parks Scholar at State, great athletic teams....not a single private high school ive come in contact with compares to the experience and level of education I received at J.H. Rose High School...and the Triangle area has some pretty outstanding private schools.

J.H. Rose Graduate C/O '98

4/5/2007 3:47:43 PM

^^You're not even making sense anymore.

You keep bringing in all these peripheral issues.

Your basic point is that 1) you think I'm a mean person for telling BamaPack that he was pathetic and 2) you think I was motivated by some feeling of having a lower "place in life" than BamaPack.

My responses to your points:

1. Okay.
2. No.

As far as the peripheral stuff:

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"never did I say you were in a " low " place in life. I just compared it to bama's current affairs. And come on..... " Fuckface ", you could have come up with something better than that."

I should have said lower instead of low. It's difficult for me to come up with words to respond to your posts because the ideas behind your posts are so ridiculous.

Fuckface is one of my favorite words.

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"You say this like its happened several times. If so, than why?"

Yes, I have heard the "picked on for smart, now rest prison/pregnant" deal several times. That's one of the reasons why I was so quick to respond to it here. Why have I heard it several times? Because there are a lot of pathetic people like BamaPack out there. Maybe I come off as somebody who would sympathize.

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"And being made of for being smart is their way and excuse to deny the fact that they were being made fun of for " not fitting in " either it be fronm the way they looked, spoke, or what they liked."

Perhaps. I don't really give a shit.

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"what?. If you're going to say something like that than why say it at all if you dont have any emotion behind it? And really, would you say that word for word to my face? over some meaningless internet argument. Id understand if it were a real life argument."

Dismissively. As if to say, "I'm not going to entertain such an argument at this moment." And of course it would be a real life argument.

[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 4:22 PM. Reason : You need to work on your reading skills, man.]

4/5/2007 4:20:07 PM

mean girl > ugly girl
all i'm sayin...

lighten up. all of you, for that matter.

bridgetspk, you are not all-knowing in the area of child-rearing. you're depending too much on book experience rather than life experience and common sense. you are going to have a rude-awakening the day you have to be diplomatic in expressing your ideas. even if you have something worthwhile to hear, people will shut you out because you're too forceful. you will get nowhere.

it's like someone going "all in" in the first round of texas hold'em.

that being said, i'm done with this thread! the topic has been covered.

4/5/2007 4:32:12 PM

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" I should have said lower instead of low. It's difficult for me to come up with words to respond to your posts because the ideas behind your posts are so ridiculous. Fuckface is one of my favorite words."

ok.. but Fuckface isnt cool at all. Get with the times woman.

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"Yes, I have heard the "picked on for smart, now rest prison/pregnant" deal several times. That's one of the reasons why I was so quick to respond to it here. Why have I heard it several times? Because there are a lot of pathetic people like BamaPack out there. Maybe I come off as somebody who would sympathize."

Pathetic... really? Dont be so quick to judge, especially about other people and what theyve gone through.

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"Perhaps. I don't really give a shit."

Than why entertain the stance you hold?

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"Dismissively. As if to say, "I'm not going to entertain such an argument at this moment." And of course it would be a real life argument."

ok

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"You need to work on your reading skills, man."

pisshhhh... no. Perhaps you need to better clarify yourself when you make such moot statements.

4/5/2007 4:34:57 PM

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"Than why entertain the stance you hold?"

What stance is that?

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"Pathetic... really? Dont be so quick to judge, especially about other people and what theyve gone through."

I get it...you disapprove of my characterization of him as pathetic. I got that from your very first response to me in this thread.

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[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 4:41 PM. Reason : ...]

4/5/2007 4:40:39 PM