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3/28/2007 9:10:24 AM

oh snap

it was just on COLD PIZZA

dude was like, "lowe jr was charged with TWENTY TWO counts...."

3/28/2007 9:19:26 AM

surprised sid spent at least $45k bailing him out. my kid would sit there until the trial.

3/28/2007 9:28:47 AM

WOW, 22?

holy fuck

Suprised some UNC fans aren't over here dropping the N-bombs

3/28/2007 9:28:55 AM

perhaps they have more self control than state fans.

3/28/2007 9:32:39 AM

wasent it 400k?

3/28/2007 9:34:02 AM

450K according to WRAL

3/28/2007 9:37:32 AM

http://news.ncsu.edu/releases/2007/march/032807_Fowler-Lowe_Statements.htm

3/28/2007 9:46:19 AM

I'd beat all 450,000 dollars out of him

actually, I wouldn't have spent the dough to begin with, he'd sit.

3/28/2007 9:48:28 AM

dont bondsmen charge 10%?

3/28/2007 9:49:10 AM

id be all like

I HAVE NO SON

3/28/2007 9:51:28 AM

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"who wants to say that this wont hurt recruiting?"

This guy:

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"this will have zero effect on recruiting."

Or this guy:

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"how the hell would this effect recruiting or anything with our program?"

Seriously, you have to be more naive than my grandmother to not understand how this works. You guys ever hear of a coach named Amato? Yea, when he was at FSU, and recruiting future pro bowlers, this was not an uncommon tactic of his. The Miami roomate of Ray lewis was gunned (in 94ish) down and Amato was known to use the newspaper clippings of that article on recruiting visits to often single mothers and ask them "Do you want your kid going to Miami where he might get shot in a senseless incident?" I bet he's laminating the Pata clippings as we speak.

Fair or not, who's to say, but certianly not against NCAA rules to reveal facts.

Now we all know this doesn't discredit Lowe as a parent, but you can bet coaches who we will recruit against will use it against us. Probably not Roy or K, their programs can recurit themselves so they can obviously take the high road with the media, because quite frankly, it doesn't matter to them.

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 9:52 AM. Reason : .]

3/28/2007 9:51:35 AM

who cares about recruiting, these are people's lives we aer talking about here...Jr.'s life is probly fucked for life if he is convicted, and sidney, as a public figure, is going ot have to answer questions about htis for a long time...plus, a guy got shot...so who cares abour recruiting

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 10:26 AM. Reason : asdf]

3/28/2007 10:25:11 AM

what's the over/under on number of days this story stays at the top of newsobserver.com.....

3/28/2007 10:54:28 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2815667

3/28/2007 10:57:48 AM

^just read that

3/28/2007 11:01:09 AM

Yeah recruiting is the not important when it comes to taking care of a son who doesnt know the meaning between right and wrong...to hell with recruiting b/c family def. comes first!

3/28/2007 11:14:09 AM

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"that would be a below the belt move that I imagine at least most coaches would want to stay away from"

guess again.

3/28/2007 11:24:57 AM

maybe when he's ready to get back out there and he's talking to a recruit and they recruit and his family are thinking and asking "what took you so long to come to us" and he tells em about the family issue and how some things are more important than basketball some families might respect that and think sidney is the man their son should play for.... you get what I'm trying to say

3/28/2007 11:27:01 AM

i suppose that would help the current situation, but it surely doesn't end up with a better situation than before his son was arrested on twenty two charges.

3/28/2007 11:29:07 AM

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"dont bondsmen charge 10%?"

yeah most people don't know how that works

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 11:41 AM. Reason : still a buttload]

3/28/2007 11:41:24 AM

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"Lowe isn't even charged with the original shooting offense. That Brian Patrick Martin kid is the one...where the fuck is his picture?"

They dont care about Martin because his dad isnt famous. I grew up in Gboro and this kinda stuff happens alot: they're used to it. It will all blow over.

To all of you who think this will be a significant damper on Lowe's recruiting, quit being so pessimistic. Yes, other coaches will remind players and their families about this when they say they are considering NCSU. Players will come here for Lowe's coaching and the bball program, not for what his dumbass son did. He is not their daddy, he is their coach. I doubt the parents give over custody of their sons to Sid when they commit. The players make the decisions, not the parents. Players may even feel more comfortable with a coach who has thuglife kids because you cant tell me the majority of bball atheletes dont act like they are thuglife.

Besides, after this becomes old news in a few months, he will be able to say how supportive wolfpack nation was of him and his family when things went bad and how all of this was a reality shock for him and his family that "brought them together" or something. Sid is slick, man. He (and wolfpack nation) will do a good job of damage control and could turn this thing around easily. Every parent knows their son may want to be thuglife and screw up, so why favor some "white cracker" like Roy (whos kids are not thugs ~ probably all spoiled croakie wearing golfers) when they can give him to a black father who has been through rough times with his thuglife son and knows how to deal with it?

3/28/2007 12:06:55 PM

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"maybe he'll wear the red jacket in court for good luck. "

hahah lmao

3/28/2007 12:13:02 PM

Yeha with a huge bail like that Im sure he only had to put up 10%.

Unless he just put forth the whole thing in which case he'd get his money back in a few weeks. (doubt he's got 450k just laying around like that though)

If your bail is smaller or youve got FTA's the 10% rule doesn't usually hold.



I think its funny how many of you act like this will have no effect. If this was Roy William's kid we'd have ammunition for years. Total embarrassment. I don't want Sidney to be fired or anything, but this is about as bad as it gets for the University and the program. Be objective and think about it.

3/28/2007 12:19:14 PM

^embarassment , certainly. Ammo for holes and dookies. yep, same thing as embarrassment.

embarrassment is way different than a significant damper on recruiting and the basketball program. Or am I wrong about that? If so, give me a good reason other than looking bad with to some of the players parents, please....

3/28/2007 12:24:49 PM

Even if these are all some bullshit charges, Sid, Jr. should just roll with it and release a rap album.

3/28/2007 12:25:02 PM

i'm just wondering if this is good or bad timing. it's about as far away from when we'll be playing b-ball again. does it mean people will just forget about it?

3/28/2007 12:28:07 PM

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"Brian Patrick Martin, 19, of Greensboro, was arrested soon after the shooting on charges of attempted murder and attempted robbery charges."

The tiny blurb at the end of the article.

Oh yeah, this other dude was caught for attempted murder....Back to Sidney Lowe



I know thats the way it goes, but it still sucks.

3/28/2007 12:31:26 PM

this thing is going to keep coming back up... arraignment, pleading, god forbid this thing goes to trial

3/28/2007 12:36:13 PM

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"You people saying it won't hurt anything are thinking as an NC State fan. Try being some mother from Colorado or somewhere, and you're shipping your kid off into some stranger's hands. This will hurt, like it or not, on at least some level."

Agreed. Most people on this board are so in denial, or blinded by the truth, its not even funny. And its not just with this, its anything dealing with NCSU. Its actually kind of pathetic.

3/28/2007 1:24:18 PM

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"^embarassment , certainly. Ammo for holes and dookies. yep, same thing as embarrassment. embarrassment is way different than a significant damper on recruiting and the basketball program. Or am I wrong about that? If so, give me a good reason other than looking bad with to some of the players parents, please...."

still no support for your claim other than "oooh his parents might think Sid raises thugs" and "ooooh those other mean coaches will say mean things about Sid like how his son was a thug"

please....

3/28/2007 1:41:57 PM

please, this shit will be forgotten by next week. no one will care

3/28/2007 2:07:16 PM

^ I wouldn't bet on that. You've got a LOT of people around here that'll make sure of it.

3/28/2007 2:12:41 PM

^^I bet Sydney will care. And if you don't think personal problems with a sons coach affects them, why don't you give Andy Reid a call.

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 2:24 PM. Reason : .]

3/28/2007 2:24:13 PM

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"please, this shit will be forgotten by next week. no one will care"

May I ask what planet do you currently reside?

3/28/2007 2:29:28 PM

jesus christ, man has been our coach for a year and some people are still saying sydney

3/28/2007 2:29:41 PM

This has about as much to do with NC State as Danny Green's dad getting busted for a drug ring in upstate New York has to do with UNC

3/28/2007 2:46:36 PM

I agree on the fact that Sid's family is more important than recruiting, but there is no way of getting around it...this will affect our recruiting, the degree is not yet known and may never be known. I mean what kid is going to say "I didn't choose NCSU because Sid's kid is a criminal and deviant"?

3/28/2007 2:48:45 PM

I don't think this will affect recruiting at all

3/28/2007 2:51:19 PM

sid's family is in no way more important to me than his ability to recruit.

3/28/2007 2:51:40 PM

i agree...its not like he introduces himself as "My son was just arrested"

3/28/2007 2:53:17 PM

I heard Peyton Manning just quit the Colts since Dungy's son killed himself last year

3/28/2007 2:55:09 PM

Thats what happens when you send your kid to NC A&T

3/28/2007 6:12:18 PM

holy crap, i just realized where he lives. its just over a mile from my house, and two of my coworkers live in the same development. thats kinda crazy

3/28/2007 6:33:03 PM

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"Clifford said Lowe insists he is innocent, and that he turned himself in at the Guilford County Magistrate's Office on Tuesday."

wait WHAT?

3/28/2007 9:38:54 PM

looks worse to run imho...must be confident he is innocent if that's teh case

3/28/2007 9:57:53 PM

well it's not as if this kid's going to go into exile. he really has no choice in the matter, even if he's cut and dry guilty, he's still better off turning himself in.

3/29/2007 1:19:17 AM

Is Sidney II's mother the same woman that Lowe is married to now?

Because his children now are really young.

I leave TWW for 2 days and come back to this.

3/29/2007 1:20:32 AM

lesson learned?

3/29/2007 1:21:13 AM

This is sad....bothers me some, but a father can't control every move of his kids


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3/29/2007 8:15:19 AM