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"Now I agree that the guy is being a dick and all, but the tendency of new mothers to think all of this shit is miraculous and glorious is a bit obnoxious in its own right. I know that the tendency of the day is to favor breastfeeding as the way to go, but if the jury is officially out on the matter then I missed the memo. This quote has a slight edge of "mommy arrogance" to it, is all I'm saying. It also doesn't have much to do with the matter at hand, since it is possible to provide "the best food in the world" from a bottle, having removed it from the breast in some more private setting. I'm not against you on this, though, or at least not completely. I would tend to think that any individual who made a big deal out of it was an ass, but at the same time I think there are certain social norms associated with it that I more or less agree with. It's kind of like...a person slurping spaghetti at a really nice Italian place. I'm not gonna go call him out on it, and if anyone were to go call him out on it I'd think that guy was a jerk, but I'm still thinking, "Surely he knows he's not supposed to do that.""

Perhaps I didn't say what I was trying to say in the best way. Yes, the mother could pump from her breast and give a bottle in some circumstances, but in other circumstances that is not possible. Breastmilk has been proven to be much better for a baby than formula. It is easier to digest and contains some things that are hard to copy in formula (such as iron--breastmilk contains far less iron than formula because the iron the breastmilk has in it is so easy to digest). I'm also not even going to get into the child bonding with his or her mother. I know the point of this thread is not to argue the point of whether or not a mother should breastfeed. However, when someone insinuates that I should either leave the restaurant or feed my child from a bottle, it makes me feel as though they do not realize how important breastfeeding is.

6/10/2007 10:12:35 AM

^and immunities

6/10/2007 10:26:46 AM

^^ ignoring the whole pump suggestion, of course

6/10/2007 10:46:06 AM

nothing wrong with a loose tittie

6/10/2007 10:58:01 AM

My best friend has a 6 month old and pumped for a while when she wasn't home to breastfeed, that was UNTIL HER NIPPLE BASICALLY BROKE OFF. SO STFU about pumping. You have NO IDEA!

6/10/2007 11:40:55 AM

TheTabbyCat -- I don't think I'm the only one here who understands the myriad benefits of breastfeeding but still thinks it shouldn't be done in certain settings. The simple fact is, if you absolutely have to give your baby formula once in a while, it's not going to grow up retarded or anything. Ditto if you have to pump every once in a while. I'm not talking about giving it formula every day or hell, every week. I'm talking about maybe having some on hand if the baby gets hungry in a place that it would be inappropriate to breastfeed, or, alternatively, to walk your ass to the bathroom like many other people do.

Similarly, hammster, the relative popularity of pumps leads me to believe that your friend's case is quite rare. At any rate, any healthy mother should, I think, be able to pump when they're going to be taking their baby to some of these places.

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"And I'd like to see a list of these delicious foods that can only be enjoyed at "fancier restaurants.""

Sushi, for one. I have never had sushi that was worth a damn in any place that wasn't, for lack of a better word, "fancy." Yeah, I know they serve something vaguely resembling sushi, and under that name, and Sakura express, but it's an unholy bastardization of the thing that tastes like ass wrapped in foot sole and peppered with dandruff flakes.

Don't be a twat, you know as well as I do that there are some things are not available at the level of Applebee's and below.

[Edited on June 10, 2007 at 1:21 PM. Reason : ]

6/10/2007 1:19:36 PM

Well when you start breastfeeding and using a pump, you let me know how awesome it feels. I definately don't think women use them because they feel great, I think it is out of necessity. One other point: It is quite common for babies who are breastfed to not take from a bottle, so that may not be an option.

[Edited on June 10, 2007 at 1:36 PM. Reason : .]

6/10/2007 1:35:23 PM

It is my opinion that breastfeeding is fine anywhere american express, visa and mastercard are accepted.

TheTabbyCat, I believe that your father-in-law is an ignorant asshole.

I've never had a problem with it, before or after the birth of my child.

My father had a similar reaction as your FIL when my g/f didn't have a blanket to nurse my son, but it was a one time thing. Had he objected to feeding my son in public, I doubt we would see them as much.

[Edited on June 10, 2007 at 1:37 PM. Reason : even the most expensive breast pumps aren't slightly comfortable nor convienent.]

6/10/2007 1:35:28 PM

I am desperately searching for the part where I said or implied that breastfeeding felt "awesome" or "feel great" or even "weren't painful." I just said that using them from time to time is not going to cause the average woman's nipple to fall off.

6/10/2007 7:18:12 PM

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"My best friend has a 6 month old and pumped for a while when she wasn't home to breastfeed, that was UNTIL HER NIPPLE BASICALLY BROKE OFF. SO STFU about pumping. You have NO IDEA!"

yeah i have no idea. my sister fucking pumped and had 0 problems. they love to allow products that usually pull off peoples nipples

[Edited on June 10, 2007 at 7:19 PM. Reason : .]

6/10/2007 7:19:44 PM

i don't care about women breastfeeding in most public places. however, i don't want to see that shit when i'm trying to have a decent meal. if you cover up, i'm fine with that... many women do not. i can't stand crying babies in restaurants, so breastfeeding is better than that, but I believe that it's best to get a babysitter if you're going somewhere nice.

something i hate more than crying babies in restaurants: parents that don't show any real discipline or control when their kid is having a hissy-fit.

6/10/2007 9:05:25 PM

I love how all these people who have never had children are telling the person who has had children what they should do.

[Edited on June 10, 2007 at 9:33 PM. Reason : ]

6/10/2007 9:32:34 PM

cuz you need to have kids to have an opinion on breastfeeding in public. dont forget that every parent EVER is perfect and knows all there is.

6/10/2007 9:38:32 PM

^I was thinking earlier that nobody should breastfeed in public cause mothers can't really know their baby's preference. My mother told me she breastfed in public with me on occasion, and I feel violated. LOL

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"GrumpyGOP: Don't be a twat, you know as well as I do that there are some things are not available at the level of Applebee's and below."

I'm not talking about places like Applebee's.

I'm saying that you can get good food without having to go to some uppity/stuffy restaurant.

"Fine Dining in a Casual Atmosphere"

[Edited on June 10, 2007 at 9:51 PM. Reason : sss]

6/10/2007 9:49:37 PM

At least we're not in India where every street corner is a potential urinal...I saw way too much tiny indian penis when I was there

6/10/2007 9:52:59 PM

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"I love how all these people who have never had children are telling the person who has had children what they should do. "

i do not fucking get what you people do not understand. In some situations it is NOT appropriate to pull your top down and let your baby start breast feeding. i.e at a nice restaurant, formal event, at the movie theater, on a airplane if you are sitting next to a stranger. This is completely overlooking the fact that your baby should be with a baby sitter if you "must" go somewhere where babies may not be appropriate. Nothing is worse then a crying baby in a restaurant or in a movie theater. I guess some of you people just grew up in the trailor park and never learned manners.



if this is you in Sullivans Steakhouse (it is off of glenwood & a fancy restaurant for all you lower class people) then I am going to be like what a fucking trashy mother. If you are Cameron Diaz I may make an exception otherwise i do not want to haphazardly see your fat saggy titty while i am enjoying my $25 lobster tail.

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"when someone insinuates that I should either leave the restaurant or feed my child from a bottle, it makes me feel as though they do not realize how important breastfeeding is. "

they are right. in this instance it doesn't matter. so STFU and go eat at McDonalds where no one gives a fuck and half the work staff has there kids running around the McPlayground since they can not afford child care

[Edited on June 10, 2007 at 10:27 PM. Reason : l]

6/10/2007 10:20:23 PM

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"Sushi, for one. I have never had sushi that was worth a damn in any place that wasn't, for lack of a better word, "fancy.""

Not to change the subject, but some of the best sushi I've ever had was from whole in the wall places that are as casual as any fast food restaurant.

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"Similarly, hammster, the relative popularity of pumps leads me to believe that your friend's case is quite rare. At any rate, any healthy mother should, I think, be able to pump when they're going to be taking their baby to some of these places."

Yeah they work, but often no where near as well as the baby's mouth does. My wife pumps at work and gets nowhere near as much as when our daughter eats. Plus they are a pain to put together, clean, etc. What's the point when the baby can get the milk direct instead of pumping it and putting it into a bottle, both of which may cause contamination? Then you have to deal with storage (can't leave it sitting out for too long) on top of that, it becomes a serious pain in the ass compared to just straight breastfeeding.

6/10/2007 10:59:03 PM

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"I love how all these people who have never had children are telling the person who has had children what they should do"

As creepy as it sounds, I asked my own parents about this, and they, by definition, have had children. They also agree with me. But all that aside, having kids does not make you the end-all expert on what to do with them. I think it's a safe bet that most people who DON'T have kids would have a better idea what to do with them than, say, a child molester WITH kids would.

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"I'm not talking about places like Applebee's. I'm saying that you can get good food without having to go to some uppity/stuffy restaurant."

First of all, I specifically said I was talking about places better than Applebees, but that notwithstanding...

Like I said, yes, you CAN get CERTAIN kinds of good food in places that aren't uppity. I love Bojangles. It's my lifeblood. But that isn't the only kind of good food in the world. To get good Sushi, or good duck, or good veal, in this country you're probably going to have to go to a nicer restaurant.

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", but some of the best sushi I've ever had was from whole in the wall places that are as casual as any fast food restaurant."

This is almost certainly the case in certain places, but just as certainly not in all. I've yet to find good sushi in such a place around Raleigh. And if such a hole-in-the-wall became popular, you can be the prices and standards would go up.

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"What's the point when the baby can get the milk direct instead of pumping it and putting it into a bottle, both of which may cause contamination?"

Again, I'm not talking about doing this all the time. I'm not even talking about doing it frequently. I'm talking about either doing this or going to a more secluded spot when you're in certain surroundings.

I would like to think that we all agree it wouldn't be entirely appropriate to just start breastfeeding at a funeral or in church. If that's the case, we'd have to agree that there are certain circumstances in which public breastfeeding is not appropriate, in which case there are circumstances that you should:

1) Not bring a baby.
2) If you bring a baby, bring a bottle.
3) If you won't bring a bottle, leave the area at feeding time.

Given those things, all that's left to argue about is which places are acceptable for breast feeding and which aren't, which is a much hazier area. Right now I just want people to suck it up and admit that you can't just whip out a food titty wherever you please.

6/11/2007 2:07:16 AM

^sure there are some places where it might be less appropriate to do, but in a place like a church or a movie theater there are generally other places where they can go . . . even if it is just in a seat out in the hall or entryway. But in a busy eating establishment where they should go? A lot of bathrooms, even at fancy places aren't necessarily the cleanest places. Or would the crowded waiting area be a better place for everyone to be disgusted? Or maybe they should be forced to sit in the 100+ degree heat in the car?

and I don't get the impression that this thread was started with the topic being a fancy dinner where the baby most likely wouldn't be anyway. It is more about your run of the mill, everyday restaurant like Applebees.

[Edited on June 11, 2007 at 6:42 AM. Reason : ]

6/11/2007 6:38:28 AM

I think the argument here has become where is appropriate instead of is it appropriate. Seems like most people think it's ok if a) it's discreet and b) it's in a tasteful environment. I would agree and I think 99% of breastfeeding moms would agree that you shouldn't feed your baby during a funeral. I mean I wouldn't bring my lunch to a funeral either, so that's fair.

My problem is with people who think that a baby shouldn't be able to eat anywhere in public. Those people need to grow up.

6/11/2007 7:15:45 AM

My Step sister had her baby about 9 months ago and she breast fed all the time. They love to go out to eat and sometimes you just can't find a baby sitter where they live. Being aware that many people are not comfortable at a restaurant or other public venues watching someone breast feed (blanket covered or not) they planned out their dates.

First, they came to realize they could not go out as much due to the fact they had an infant. They adjusted their lifestyle for this. Mostly it was spur of the moment eating out at nice restaurants.

Second if they were going out, and the infant was going to accompany them they picked a low key restaurant where it wouldn't be generally noticed (IE: not Olive Garden or some place typically packed).

Third the last thing she would do before leaving was feed the baby. I think they did this because feeding time meant a diaper change in 10 minutes. Kid was like clockwork.

So on a typical night out to eat like this there was no need to feed, BUT if there were it would not be noticed. They saved the nice places for nights when they had a baby sitter. Since they don't live too far from my dad and step mom that's easy enough.

I think the biggest thing about how they viewed it was that they had a lot of respect for people who might not be okay with it. Myself included. Like many have said there are some places that it is not appropriate.

The easiest relationship they made was if it's looked down on you talking on a cell phone there, it probably isn't a good idea to breastfeed. This of course because they are very considerate of those around them.

Breastfeeding is a beautiful thing and some people feel the need to shove that in other's faces but it's only going to make you look like a inconsiderate jackass. Noone is going to care about the needs of the baby just that "that lady is breastfeeding". People will stare and it won't be nice.

so the best advice anyone can really give you is to accept the fact that you have a child and your lifestyle needs to change unless you don't care about pissing people off and ruining their evenings. To some people it really is a big thing and can ruin their evenings and saying "they should get over it" doesn't change the fact it's inappropriate and many restaurants WILL ask you to leave especially in Cary.

6/11/2007 7:19:51 AM

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"The easiest relationship they made was if it's looked down on you talking on a cell phone there, it probably isn't a good idea to breastfeed. This of course because they are very considerate of those around them."

if you're eating a meal with someone regardless of location, you shouldn't be on the phone at all.

6/11/2007 9:13:45 AM

6/11/2007 9:17:17 AM

that is fucking weird. i would probably make fun of the kid if i were in elementary school who was still sucking mama's tatas at age 8. kinda like the kid who still wets his pants, cries a lot, etc

6/11/2007 10:26:07 AM

Yes, breastfeeding is natural. Yes it is healthy for the child. But it DOES NOT have to be done at a nice restaurant with tons of people around. I'm not saying the child should go hungry... FEED IT BEFORE YOU GET THERE.

I'm also not saying it should never be done in public, but show some discretion, just like everyone else should do.

6/11/2007 10:32:16 AM

When I started this thread, I was referring to a place like Applebees. When we went to dinner with my father-in-law, it was to Chili's.

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"I guess some of you people just grew up in the trailor park and never learned manners."

First of all, people who want to FEED their babies while being DISCREET are much more manerable than some people who go out and talk all loud or do other things and disrupt other tables. Secondly, I'm pretty sure feeding our children breastmilk in public doesn't constitute a comparison
to a trailer park...if you're going to say that, then I guess I could just say that your bad spelling constitutes a comparison to you being dumb as fuck.

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"if this is you in Sullivans Steakhouse (it is off of glenwood & a fancy restaurant for all you lower class people) then I am going to be like what a fucking trashy mother. "

Perhaps bad taste for not taking her child somewhere private-yes...trashy-no.

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"If you are Cameron Diaz I may make an exception otherwise i do not want to haphazardly see your fat saggy titty while i am enjoying my $25 lobster tail."

WTF difference does it make if a woman looks like Cameron Diaz or if she's not attractive. You are not going to be seing titty. It is going to be under a blanket. You can fantasize or gag all you want, but you will not be seeing titty. Most mothers are experienced enough to know how to be discreet and not allow the slippage of a titty.

6/11/2007 10:53:41 AM

i wouldnt want someone breastfeeding in front of me at a restaurant while i tried to eat.

6/11/2007 10:58:58 AM

this thread should be locked at this point

all it is is a bunch of trolls saying " I DONT WANT SOME SAGGY BITCH FLOPPING HER TITTY ON THE TABLE FOR HER PIGLETS TO SUCK ON WHILE I'M EATING MY KOBE BEEF STEAK"

knowing full and well that a blanket is all they would see anyway, which makes it a straw man in addition to obvious trolling.

6/11/2007 11:06:06 AM

no, because at this point the the thread has evolved into a discussion on where breastfeeding is appropriate.

I think Raige detailed the most responsible approach to eating out with a child who is still breastfed. That is an extremely responsible solution that even I, the grand dick of the thread so far, would be cool with.

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"Raige: I think the biggest thing about how they viewed it was that they had a lot of respect for people who might not be okay with it. Myself included. Like many have said there are some places that it is not appropriate. The easiest relationship they made was if it's looked down on you talking on a cell phone there, it probably isn't a good idea to breastfeed. This of course because they are very considerate of those around them."

Bingo. Fucking awesome. You somehow took my thoughts and put them in word form. I don't have a problem with breastfeeding. I do think there are certain things which are not appropriate for a restaurant. Talking on a cell phone, swearing loudly, breastfeeding, shitty clothes, etc. the list goes on.

Do I think it's as big a deal if you're letting your kid get a suckle of the zipple at Bojangles? No. It's a fast food joint, it's as low as it gets on the ladder of dining establishments. Just like if you were at a 5star restaurant, they'd probably not let you in with anything short of a nice pair of pants and a dinner jacket.

The argument is where do you draw the line?

[Edited on June 11, 2007 at 11:24 AM. Reason : s]

6/11/2007 11:23:59 AM

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"i wouldnt want someone breastfeeding in front of me at a restaurant while i tried to eat. "

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"If you are Cameron Diaz I may make an exception otherwise i do not want to haphazardly see your fat saggy titty while i am enjoying my $25 lobster tail."

How about you 2 fucking not look in that direction???

And if that's the light you see breastfeeding in, then I hope in the future your wives, sisters, daughters, etc, are forever ridiculed and made fun of while breastfeeding, including by YOU.

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"this thread should be locked at this point all it is is a bunch of trolls saying " I DONT WANT SOME SAGGY BITCH FLOPPING HER TITTY ON THE TABLE FOR HER PIGLETS TO SUCK ON WHILE I'M EATING MY KOBE BEEF STEAK" knowing full and well that a blanket is all they would see anyway, which makes it a straw man in addition to obvious trolling."

EXACTLY. A bunch of tactless, classless, and disrespectful trolls. Go back to your mothers so they can teachh you some goddamn manners and respect.

6/11/2007 11:29:58 AM

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"When I started this thread, I was referring to a place like Applebees. When we went to dinner with my father-in-law, it was to Chili's."

I think these places are kinda borderline, so I didn't want to harp on them -- figured there was no point until I had sold people on the "fancy restaurant" place. Really and truly, unless it's a real low-brow place (fast food, etc) it's not in the best taste.

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"My problem is with people who think that a baby shouldn't be able to eat anywhere in public."

Yeah, that's a bit extreme. Really, restaurants are far and away the place I have the biggest problem with it, as well as theaters, where any visible distraction is a no-no. If I saw a girl breastfeeding in a mall or shopping center or on a park bench or many other public places, I'd probably do a double take just because I'm not used to seeing it, but it wouldn't bother me.

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"But in a busy eating establishment where they should go? A lot of bathrooms, even at fancy places aren't necessarily the cleanest places."

You know, they're not, but they're also not so dirty that there's any health hazard presented by standing in there and breastfeeding. I'm not asking the kid to slurp the milk off the counter. If the bathroom is really intolerably filthy, fine, do what you have to do, but it'd have to be pretty fucking bad.

Think about it -- the bathroom is the accepted place to go when you have to expose part of your body that should be covered up in whatever place you're at. If I'm eating on the deck at East Village and have to break the seal, it'd be much more convenient to me to just stand at the railing and let fly off the side. But I go to the bathroom, and I do it without bitching.

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"How about you 2 fucking not look in that direction???"

That's not entirely fair. One goes to a restaurant and pays good money with the expectation that they won't have to avert their eyes from some section of the restaurant.

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"And if that's the light you see breastfeeding in, then I hope in the future your wives, sisters, daughters, etc, are forever ridiculed and made fun of while breastfeeding, including by YOU."

Again, not completely fair. Everyone defecates, and I don't ridicule them for it, but I also don't want them to do it in front of me while they eat. I'm not trying to say to equate the two in any way, but the point is that a process being necessary does not make it acceptable dinner theater.

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"EXACTLY. A bunch of tactless, classless, and disrespectful trolls. Go back to your mothers so they can teachh you some goddamn manners and respect."

Well I'd like to think I was having at least a little tact, class, and respect. Except when it comes to BridgetSPK, but that's neither here nor there. And incidentally, when I mentioned this thread to my mom she said that she always went into the bathroom when my brother or I needed to eat in restaurants (which is, admittedly, more information than I wanted from her -- a simple "don't do it in public" would've sufficed), and in general agrees with me point for point.

[Edited on June 11, 2007 at 11:45 AM. Reason : ]

6/11/2007 11:39:06 AM

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"nd if that's the light you see breastfeeding in, then I hope in the future your wives, sisters, daughters, etc, are forever ridiculed and made fun of while breastfeeding, including by YOU. "

I do not see how you can have any credibility in this argument. In your country a woman would be off to the stocks to be stoned if caught with her jugglies exposed in public breastfeeding. Go chat on the Saudi message boards.

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"tables. Secondly, I'm pretty sure feeding our children breastmilk in public doesn't constitute a"

blah blah blah. you are not the first person to have a kid nor the last. So stop acting like you brought into this world the next jesus christ to save humanity. No one thinks your baby is cute except you and your husband.

6/11/2007 11:47:16 AM

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"the bathroom is the accepted place to go when you have to expose part of your body that should be covered up in whatever place you're at."

Whats being exposed? If the titty and child are under a blanket, then whats the big deal?

6/11/2007 11:50:57 AM

It's not the titty/nipple I have a problem with, it's the act itself.

If a girl pulled up her skirt in the middle of a restaurant and started masturbating, it's not the pussy I'd be offended by, it's the act itself.

If a dude pulled down his shorts and started jerking it in the middle of the restaurant, yeah i'd have a problem having to see this dude's pecker, but I'd be more pissed about the act itself.

If someone at the next table pulled out a cellphone and started talking, it's not the cell phone I have a problem with, I'm offended by the act itself.

It's a lack of consideration for the people in close proximity to you. The use of a towel doesn't help/hurt the act. I just don't think it's appropriate for most restaurants.

6/11/2007 11:57:36 AM

Maybe it is ok if i put my hand in my pants and jack off during a nice sit down dinner. What is the big deal?? I am just taking care of a physical need and if my hand is in my pants then there is no penis.

6/11/2007 11:57:56 AM

In most social situations, most people are more comfortable when mothers nurse discreetly. Good manners suggest that you should take the feelings of others into account,

6/11/2007 12:03:21 PM

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"In your country a woman would be off to the stocks to be stoned if caught with her jugglies exposed in public breastfeeding"

Not only are you xenophobic, but stupid as well.

How many times does someone has to say that you don't see the breasts at all?

And wow, you know so much about the laws here,

You would make good friends with Hitler, Stalin, OBL, etc

6/11/2007 12:03:29 PM

Yeah, I refer to the exposure because it's the quick way to get the point across, and because I admit to liking the word "titty" as much as anybody.

A better way to say it would have been:

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"the bathroom is the accepted place to go when you have to expose do stuff with part of your body that should be covered up in whatever place you're at."

6/11/2007 12:06:02 PM

I don't see what the big deal is with taking other people's feelings into consideration. In polite company, you don't cuss, you don't fart, you don't burp, you don't talk bad about people's mamas... I don't see why mothers can't feed their children discreetly, especially since it obviously makes people uncomfortable in certain situations.

nobody is saying the child should go hungry. noone is saying the child should be fed unnatural chemicals as a substitute. all we are asking is that women, instead of approching the situation with the "I CAN FEED MY BABY IN PUBLIC AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT" attitude, why not just be polite? especially in places where it is generally accepted as "no shirt, no shoes, no service"

6/11/2007 12:09:47 PM

SIDEBOOB FTW

6/11/2007 12:11:09 PM

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"That's not entirely fair. One goes to a restaurant and pays good money with the expectation that they won't have to avert their eyes from some section of the restaurant."

Depends on where the woman is sitting, and what's behind and next to her, but chances are that you won't have to avoid a whole "section". And anyway, if there is something interesting close to her, like a painting or a sculpture or whatever, is the [indirect] sight of a breastfeeding woman offensive, esp if nothing is visible, and she looks the same as she would if she were not breastfeeding, i.e., covered to the same degree? Because really, you won't be looking at her, but at whatever is interesting close to her (if there IS something), and so she would only be visible (fully COVERED) from the very CORNER of your eyes.

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"Well I'd like to think I was having at least a little tact, class, and respect. "

Sorry, that wasn't directed at you, but at the two people I quoted. I haven't seen your posts in this thread yet (I just entered the thread!), but I am damn sure that you were being a hell of a lot more respectful than those two I quoted.

6/11/2007 12:18:03 PM

If two people were having sex at the table behind me, I wouldn't have to look at it but once to know it was going on. It's not directly the sight of it, it's the lack of respect for the feelings of those around.

Some things are not appropriate for a restaurant.

6/11/2007 12:24:51 PM

Here is the real answer that matters, REGARDLESS of what anybody here thinks:

If the restaurant/place is OK with it, then everybody STFU.

If the restaurant/place is not OK with it, sorry feeding mothers, you will have to find one which has no objection.

Really, if the laws/rules (of the country/place) says it is OK, people can bitch and moan all they want, but they can't do anything about it, so they might as well STFU.

6/11/2007 12:29:33 PM

So everyone who is against it here would agree that people should have to answer their cell phones in a bathroom stall too right? Because the last thing I want to hear at a restaurant is your stupid ring tone and the mundane details of your life that you think are sooooooo important that you must talk (for some reason loudly) about.


And by the way IF THE RESTAURANT GIVES KIDS CRAYONS TO COLOR WITH, ITS NOT AN EXPENSIVE OR FANCY RESTAURANT. The level of stupidity in this thread has no bounds.

6/11/2007 12:32:14 PM

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"Really, if the laws/rules (of the country/place) says it is OK, people can bitch and moan all they want, but they can't do anything about it, so they might as well STFU."

HA

6/11/2007 12:33:46 PM

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"people should have to answer their cell phones in a bathroom stall too right"

correct, or outside is fine.

Just like breastfeeding, not illegal in a restaurant, but still not appropriate.

6/11/2007 12:34:35 PM

Great so then I assume no one in this thread has ever answered their cell phone at a restaurant.

6/11/2007 12:35:34 PM

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"So everyone who is against it here would agree that people should have to answer their cell phones in a bathroom stall too right? Because the last thing I want to hear at a restaurant is your stupid ring tone and the mundane details of your life that you think are sooooooo important that you must talk (for some reason loudly) about. And by the way IF THE RESTAURANT GIVES KIDS CRAYONS TO COLOR WITH, ITS NOT AN EXPENSIVE OR FANCY RESTAURANT. The level of stupidity in this thread has no bounds. "

yeah b/c a phone ringing and breastfeeding are comparing apples to apples
the level of stupidity in your post has not bounds

but to answer your dumb question...i feel that everyone should use the vibrate ring feature as much as possible

6/11/2007 12:36:37 PM

^No it is apples to apples.

Neither is illegal. Some people find both rude. If done discreetly, neither should be a problem. [/thread]

6/11/2007 12:39:58 PM

shit you shouldn't do at the table while you are at a restaurant out of respect for others:
1. Talk on Cell Phone
2. Fart
3. Breastfeed
4. Pick your nose
5. Throw food
6. Chew with your mouth open
7. ...

6/11/2007 12:40:25 PM