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RawWulf
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I'm already up to 2000 songs for my 1-1/2-hour block If I could get my HDD back from JOEL, then I'll really be set.

2/28/2008 3:27:32 AM

sawahash
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So let me get this straight...we will be able to play any song we want? There won't just be a list that we can select from?

2/28/2008 11:11:26 AM

evan
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if you want to go ahead and take some preliminary steps to get your computer ready to broadcast, do the following:



since the main streaming server will be connecting to your computer to serve the stream, we need to know what your IP address is all the time. most connections to the internet use DHCP, or dynamic host configuration protocol, so your IP address does not always remain the same.

to keep track of this, you need to sign up for a dynamic DNS account. for simplicity's sake, i'll be going over the process at http://www.no-ip.com/. you don't have to use no-ip. if you know what you're doing (or already have a dynamic DNS hostname or a static IP address), just keep doin ya thing and just let me know what your hostname is.


  1. sign up for an account at http://www.no-ip.com/newUser.php

  2. check your email for a message entitled "No-IP.com Activation"

  3. open this email and click the link below "To activate your account please click the following URL:"

  4. on the "Account Confirmed!" page, go ahead and log in with the email and password you registered with. the login boxes are near the top of the page.

  5. once you're logged in, look on the left hand side for "Add" (under "Hosts / Redirects"). Click it.

  6. in the "hostname" field, type whatever hostname you would like. in the dropdown box below that, pick the domain you'd like from the "No-IP Free Domains" list. your URL will consist of your hostname followed by the domain name you pick (i.e. evan.no-ip.org)

  7. don't change anything else on this page. click "Create Host" at the bottom of the page.

  8. if everything worked okay, you should see a message telling you that your host has been successfully added to their system.

  9. download the windows update client at http://e00.us/radio_new/resources/download/broadcast/ducsetup.exe

  10. run it. click next until you get to the following screen:


  11. click Finish.

  12. you should see this:



    enter the email address and password you registered with earlier and click OK.

  13. after you click OK, double-click on the "IP" icon (with a "no" sign over it) in your taskbar (next to the clock). you should see a screen that lists your hosts. the one you created earlier should be listed here. make sure the box next to your host is checked.

  14. click "options" and then check "Run as a system service"

  15. click OK

  16. click the red "X" in the top right corner of the "No-IP DUC" window.




NOW: to test everything out:


bring up the command prompt.
start > run
type "cmd.exe" into the box and click OK
in the big black box that comes up, type "ping yourhostname.yourdomain.com" (without the quotes, of course) (make sure to replace yourhostname and yourdomain.com with the hostname and domain you picked earlier, i.e. evan.no-ip.org)

you should see a bunch of stuff, followed by 4 lines that begin with "Reply from"

if this is the case - great success! you're done. you can close the command prompt. you won't ever have to mess with this again. it will run in the background on your computer (and will start up automatically when you reboot) and update your hostname with your ip address.

after you've done all this, PM me the hostname you chose.



more instructions are forthcoming. you're finished with the hardest part now, though.

2/28/2008 11:28:51 AM

evan
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seriously?

i go through all this trouble and only 1 person has signed up so far?

2/28/2008 12:27:05 PM

RawWulf
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I will, damn it ... !

2/28/2008 12:27:56 PM

rtc407
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signed up

2/28/2008 12:39:44 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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ill sign up later today, i dont have time right now

2/28/2008 12:40:25 PM

qntmfred
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^

2/28/2008 12:41:21 PM

Amsterdam718
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Program Name:
AMSTERDAM718 : The 25th Hour


Program Description/Genres (be as specific as possible):

advice column read.
hiphop/alternative/classic rock/acid jazz.
talk.
gulliness.



Day(s) of The Week You Want:

flexible - Sat/Sunday

Start Time/End Time:

2100/0100ET


Have you ever used radio automation software?

no. but perhaps.

Other requests/comments/questions:

I'm confident I'm the best person. NCSU 4-years and the schtick/swagger, etc.

2/28/2008 12:47:19 PM

mytwocents
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k wait....if I have a dynamic IP or whatever....do I need to just give you my IP and then not download anything in that 'how to' list?

2/28/2008 1:04:28 PM

evan
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"k wait....if I have a dynamic IP or whatever....do I need to just give you my IP"


no

having a dynamic IP is the whole problem, it changes every now and then

the dynamic DNS stuff keeps track of your IP

2/28/2008 1:06:39 PM

evan
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so far, i've received hostname information from:

catzor
amsterdam718

2/28/2008 1:07:36 PM

RawWulf
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I'm previewing some of my setlist

2/28/2008 1:07:41 PM

dzags18
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can we PLEASE have an a718 show

2/28/2008 1:08:01 PM

Dammit100
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where's the goddamned hip-hop/rap?

2/28/2008 1:13:10 PM

Agent 0
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is there a slot available for me to play the Shawty Lo - Dey Know request hour


where you can only request Shawty Lo - Dey Know?

2/28/2008 1:13:57 PM

mytwocents
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hey evan, I'm pinging the ip I chose and it's only getting a reply from 1/4 ?

2/28/2008 1:22:17 PM

dagreenone
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"ill sign up later today, i dont have time right now"

2/28/2008 1:50:02 PM

catzor
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People, lets sign up. Evan has done a lot of work, and I want to do this shit. It is a lot quicker to do than you would think. Great directions by the way.

/internet bj [no homo]

2/28/2008 3:21:24 PM

Ernie
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SO HERE'S MY PROBLEM

If my show is scheduled from, say, 11-12, and the actual length of my playlist is 60:45, will I be cut off at exactly 12, thus losing my final :45 in the ether?

And what if my playlist is only 57:50? Will there be 2:10 of dead air before the next show takes over?

It just seems like transitions could be a little sloppy if it's all automated. Of course, I don't have any alternatives to suggest and I'm not sure I'd be interested in any if they required more work. But I think dead air/chopped shows could be an issue.

[Edited on February 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM. Reason : ]

2/28/2008 3:44:54 PM

catzor
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^ just fill any dead air with the appropriate amount of chorus' from "Slow ride" or "Fast Car"

[Edited on February 28, 2008 at 3:47 PM. Reason : .]

2/28/2008 3:46:52 PM

pilgrimshoes
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yo so when do the shows start

2/28/2008 3:57:03 PM

Iheartcoffee
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Program Name: Utopia


Program Description/Genres (be as specific as possible):
Hmm...indie, jazz, electrojazz, new wave, synthpop...etc etc etc

Day(s) of The Week You Want:
Monday

Start Time/End Time:
6-7pm

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Program Name: Alive


Program Description/Genres (be as specific as possible):
Techno, trance, electronica, house, etc etc etc

Day(s) of The Week You Want:
Wednesday

Start Time/End Time:
6-7

Have you ever used radio automation software?
No

Other requests/comments/questions: Would take requests of course, provided the song could be found

2/28/2008 4:56:57 PM

Walls1441
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Program Name:Walls1441 hour of power.

Program Description/Genres (be as specific as possible): All kinds of Metal, Punk/Psychedelic/Classic Rock, anything inbetween. Instrumental Music from Rock to Rock influenced Techno.

Day(s) of The Week You Want:Wednesday

Start Time/End Time:2pm-3pm

Have you ever used radio automation software?No, but i'm good with femputers.

Other requests/comments/questions:

[Edited on February 28, 2008 at 5:18 PM. Reason : Instrumental music from penis to penis.]

2/28/2008 5:01:57 PM

catzor
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^^Good kid

2/28/2008 7:17:15 PM

evan
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"will I be cut off at exactly 12, thus losing my final :45 in the ether?"


yes. it will connect to your DNAS exactly at 11 and drop the stream exactly at 12.

i'll set up an NTP server on the streaming computer so if you wish to synchronize your computer's time to the streaming server's time (which is synced with the atomic clock), you can.


Quote :
"And what if my playlist is only 57:50? Will there be 2:10 of dead air before the next show takes over?"


no. there will never be dead air if i can help it.

if your show ends before your time, just stop the encoder. the way i'm going to have everyone set up the stuff, it will kick the main streaming server if you are no longer streaming anything. once the main streaming server sees that it's been kicked, it immediately crossfades into autopilot mode.

so, basically, the only time there would ever be dead air is if:

a) someone decides to stop playing music but keeps the encoder on so the main streaming server doesn't drop the stream (if this happens twice, your show is cancelled.)

b) the main streaming server crashes for some strange reason.



try to make your shows fit within your timeblock as best as you can. my suggestion would be to start playing music 2-3 minutes before your scheduled start time, so when the main streaming server connects, it's not connecting to dead air. i'll leave that up to you, though.

also, unless you can time it right, you might want to end your show 30 seconds or so early so it doesn't cut you off mid-sentence.

regardless of what you're doing, the streaming server WILL connect to your computer at your scheduled start time and WILL disconnect at your scheduled end time.

2/28/2008 7:21:41 PM

evan
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also:

i'd really really really really really really really really prefer it if your show was more than just a playlist in winamp. that's going to get boring.

part of what is going to make this awesome is the fact that tdub users are the DJs - if all you're doing is hitting play on a playlist, you're not DJing.

SAM will let you do voiceovers and sound effects and (if you really want to do this, PM me) even phone calls.

treat it like an actual show. play 4-5 songs, then come on and talk a little bit, do whatever, and play some more music.



ALSO:
if you don't use SAM, you won't be able to take requests for your show.

this is how the request system will work for scheduled programs:

each show will have it's own page on the twwradio website. you'll be able to edit the page contents, etc.

it will display a list of every song in your SAM library and will also be searchable. it'll function just like the current request system. a user goes to your show's page, finds a song in your library, and clicks the request button. they'll get a success/failure message.

when the user clicks the request button, it sends a message to SAM running on your computer with the song ID of the request, and puts it into a special "Requests" queue. you'll see requests as soon as they are made, in the order they are made, in this queue.

to play a request, you'll just drag the song out of the requests queue and place it in the broadcast queue wherever you want it to play.

if i can get it working, i'll also have it send along the tww username of the person who requested the song and whatever they put in the "dedicated to" field so you can do dedications and whatnot.

2/28/2008 7:29:51 PM

evan
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ALSO ALSO:

if there's enough interest, i'd be willing to reserve the big conference room in the east wing of the library (the one with the projector in it) to have a tutorial on how to use all this stuff.

we'll go over setting everything up, basic operation of SAM, etc.

2/28/2008 7:32:02 PM

Ernie
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wtf is SAM

?

2/28/2008 7:34:03 PM

evan
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Quote :
"the software used will include:

1) a custom (i.e. i changed a bunch of stuff) version of the IceCast DNAS
2) SAM Broadcaster 4.2.2
3) a dynamic DNS client of your choosing.

SAM is the easiest and most user friendly way of doing it - i use DRS2006 for the main stream, but it's got a pretty steep learning curve.

if you don't want to use SAM, you also have the option of downloading WinAmp and the SHOUTcast DSP plugin and just streaming a winamp playlist for your show... although this is pretty boring. i'd rather everyone use SAM so we can hear your voice and you can do fun things on the air.

if you know what you're doing when it comes to radio automation/internet broadcasting, you may use whatever software you want as long as it can stream to the DNAS on your machine.
"

2/28/2008 7:38:55 PM

saps852
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google sam downloads 4.2.2 and download the 14 day trial, its easy as shit, ive had it for about 20 seconds and already know it pretty well

2/28/2008 7:54:01 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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so evan, are you just adding on to the prog sched. i sent you with the new listings since then? or should i do that?

2/28/2008 9:31:47 PM

evan
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^if you could do that, it'd be great.

i haven't been keeping track of it - but if it's all in an excel file like that, it's much easier for me to add to the database.

your help is much appreciated, sir.

2/28/2008 9:34:49 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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np, ill add the few i saw pop up here

2/28/2008 9:37:56 PM

Duck
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done except for SAM- got a database error...any assist, as I'm not familiar with this program...

2/28/2008 10:45:04 PM

Duck
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if we have the resources and space?... live acoustic set with local musicians/band?

2/28/2008 10:57:16 PM

rtc407
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so are we supposed to have the IceCast DNAS thing yet?

2/29/2008 12:05:16 AM

evan
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no

don't install anything yet

2/29/2008 3:16:24 AM

evan
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i just sent a PM to the users who have sent me their dynamic DNS hostname

it details how you can obtain software

please read it and follow the directions

but DO NOT INSTALL ANYTHING YET K?

2/29/2008 6:53:12 AM

Turnip
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Quote :
"Turnip:

Something went wrong with your request."

2/29/2008 7:05:20 AM

dagreenone
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The programs don't start till after spring break, correct? I'll be gone and won't be able to do my show over spring break, so just giving some heads up.

2/29/2008 8:30:11 AM

Iheartcoffee
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^same

2/29/2008 10:08:57 AM

RawWulf
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you people better preprogram your shits!

2/29/2008 10:09:49 AM

Duck
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link is valid for one day... that's correct? YAY

2/29/2008 10:26:19 AM

LardAss
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Yo what up you wack bitch can I get a show called "My penis stays big" or "My penis in charge all day every day"

2/29/2008 10:29:21 AM

evan
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k, i like that idea anyway. gives me more time to finish it/polish it. programming won't start until the monday after spring break.

2/29/2008 2:32:23 PM

RawWulf
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for those of us not in school, when is Spring Break?

2/29/2008 2:34:56 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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that mess didnt work for me in the email..

2/29/2008 2:35:45 PM

saps852
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that mess didnt work for me in the email..

2/29/2008 9:34:47 PM

ncsu_angel
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If it's ok with you, I'd like to give this a shot.
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Program Name: Jen and Sonic


Program Description/Genres: Mostly some better known indie rock stuff with maybe some techno/electronica thrown in there.


Day(s) of The Week You Want: Sunday


Start Time/End Time: 3-4 (I don't think this slot has been taken)


Have you ever used radio automation software? No


Other requests/comments/questions: This will be a completely new experience for me, so it may be touch and go the first few times.

[Edited on February 29, 2008 at 9:42 PM. Reason : .]

2/29/2008 9:42:18 PM

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