im a self proclaimed gang expert, and would be very suprised if this was not gang related. the five point star hat indicates a possible blood affiliation. someone earlier in this thread said "the hoover crips wear hats with an H's on them", but i promise you no crip from this area (durham, wake or chapel hill) would wear a 5 point star hat. this is not some inside info, this is just my personal opinion based on 3 years of local gang experience. i reserve the right to be wrong of course because I am humble, but I am pretty certain of this

[Edited on March 10, 2008 at 7:47 AM. Reason : .]

3/10/2008 7:46:35 AM

Why people care about this:

We've had a string of school shootings which have shaken everyone up. These shootings have left lacking resolution because the killer has committed suicide. Additionally, the identity of the victims is rarely focused on, or in the case of VA Tech, there were just so many--so it's hard to pin down a single identity with which to sympathize.

So here, for the first time since the previous school shootings, we have a killer to go after and an identity to sympathize with (and what an identity! Eve was a complete sweetheart, someone we all "know"). All of our lack of resolution in previous cases is now being piled in to this one case.

Of course all of this is taking place in the more primal regions of our brains--a mix of revenge and hysteria. Then, all of this is transmitted through the psychic powers of television and the internet, our minds draw abstract comparisons between our own experiences as college students and the people we see on TV, and we become hooked--we all want to follow the case and the media will continue to oblige.

You could say, "this isn't a school shooting, this is something else", and maybe you'd be right, but your lizard brain sees them on about equal footing: it's the same community and the same problem; we're continually reminded that college campuses are not safe places.

We are Meerkats...

3/10/2008 9:08:37 AM

3/10/2008 9:23:13 AM

^^ the man has a point.

3/10/2008 9:24:35 AM

[Edited on March 10, 2008 at 10:47 AM. Reason : made a mistake]

3/10/2008 10:46:52 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVUlhgvlTmg

3/10/2008 10:49:20 AM

Quote :

"we're continually reminded that college campuses are not safe places."

kinggraham

Life is not a safe place.

3/10/2008 11:09:48 AM

Quote :

"We are Meerkats..."

i think those are mongooses...mongeese...whatever

3/10/2008 11:33:50 AM

kinggraham had a hell of a first post.

3/10/2008 12:02:17 PM

nice marmot.

3/10/2008 12:17:34 PM

It was a good first post but he wrapped it up with some fail.

3/10/2008 12:33:20 PM

color enhanced, although i'm not sure it really tells us anything else

Quote :

"we're continually reminded that college campuses are not safe places."

that's just not true. Even with the recent spate of mass-shootings and other isolated incidents, college campuses statistically remain some of the safest places around. No, they're not some kind of utopia where nobody ever gets hurt, robbed or killed, but on the whole they're still safer than than the general population and much safer than big cities. It's exactly because they're so safe that stories like these make the headlines. That's the definition of "news" - if this was commonplace (like, for example, murders in Detroit or DC) then it would no longer be considered news.

Of course nobody should be lulled into a false sense of security or complacency anywhere they are, but then again you needn't be on-alert all the time because you think that "you're going to be next". If you go through college thinking that chances are high, or even non-negligible, of being shot in a classroom or murdered a mile from campus you're just going to be adding a lot of unneeded stress to your life.

3/10/2008 12:54:26 PM

Quote :

"i think those are mongooses...mongeese...whatever"

A meerkat is a mongoose, and the animals in that picture are mongooses, but not meerkats. Not sure what type, probably the kind that eats cobras for breakfast.

3/10/2008 1:12:43 PM

a meerkat is not a fucking mongoose


a mongoose is a mongoose and a meerkat is a meerkat


we dont call cherries almonds just because they are related

3/10/2008 3:50:21 PM

Meerkat
Order: Carnivora
Family: Herpestidae
Genus: Suricata

member of the mongoose family, but this thread is about a dead girl

3/10/2008 4:00:07 PM

upon further research, it appears I may be wrong about my theory. good thing i reserved the right to be mistaken

3/10/2008 4:04:29 PM

your theory about the gang thing?
Is there public knowledge to refute that now?

3/10/2008 4:10:29 PM

i like arguing off topic....jesse and sharpton and now mongoose and meerkats


nonetheless, if you drew a big circle with a small circle concentrically placed inside it

the absolute MOST you could accredit their relation is that youd write "meerkat" in the inner circle and "mongoose" in the outer meaning at best all meerkats are mongoose but not all mongoose are meerkats

meerkat genus SURICATA

mongoose genus HERPESTES

Herpestes is simply the namesake, or the keystone species of the family...a respresentative of the ideological conditions for classification in that family

that was fun

[Edited on March 10, 2008 at 4:20 PM. Reason : c]

3/10/2008 4:19:47 PM

no, all i meant was that he could possibly be a crip not a blood. i was mistaken about the hat. its just that east coast bloods use a five point star as a symbol, whereas most local crip gangs in this area use a six point "star of david" as a symbol to represent folk nation. however, there may be a local "hoover crip" set in durham which has affiliation with the LA hoover crips, therefore the east coast, or chicago based, folk and people ties may not apply. so, i am altering my theory a bit

3/10/2008 4:20:19 PM

GOT MY THOWBACK ASTROS CAP SON

3/10/2008 4:22:02 PM

are you some kind of gangland intelligence expert or something? i thought durham was mostly kings and MS and just a bunch of small bangers with no 'national' affiliation

3/10/2008 4:22:31 PM

yah durham has a lot of MS gang members

3/10/2008 4:24:27 PM

you mean those guys on the buses tryna get in the rap game?

3/10/2008 4:25:28 PM

like young swift?

check him out from myspace...xm plays his junts

3/10/2008 4:29:08 PM

The the Cheek Road Stunnas

3/10/2008 4:29:43 PM

he only did it for dat peanut butta interior... the hat says it all

he was prolly grindin, he was probably hangin round the block like an old cold can doin his hustle, slang some of that white fire on ole girl since she was "trying to study", he found it to be the perfect opportunity to rob the chick, which sadly, ended in her murder

3/10/2008 4:33:03 PM

Hes all like

"INSIDE PEANUT BUTTER OUTSIDE JELLAYYYYYYYY"

he tried to sell her some a 8th of purple drank

[Edited on March 10, 2008 at 4:34 PM. Reason : d]

3/10/2008 4:33:35 PM

she was gonna, "stay home and study all night"

3/10/2008 4:34:44 PM

damn, i just noticed that they retouched that picture with color


i never thought the would be an african american

3/10/2008 4:35:55 PM

me either

I was expecting it to be a duke lacrosse member

3/10/2008 4:37:23 PM

^^rofl

3/10/2008 4:37:36 PM

i thought blacks only killed other blacks

3/10/2008 4:38:25 PM

Quote :

"are you some kind of gangland intelligence expert or something? i thought durham was mostly kings and MS and just a bunch of small bangers with no 'national' affiliation"

im not in a gang unit, but i plan to be in the future. till then its just a personal interest of mine, but I have had a very good share of experience with gangs/members over my three years in law enforcement. durham does have small local gangs but they also have national affiliations as well. my expertise is not in durham but i can assume that durham has followed a path like raleigh did in that many of raleighs "local" neighborhood gangs got rolled into larger gangs as the larger ones grew. in raleigh, that would be the bloods.

3/10/2008 4:38:47 PM

so who would win between MS-13 and Kings in:


1) gun fight
2) knife fight
3) Trivial Pursuit
?

3/10/2008 4:42:26 PM

how about MS13 and 18th street...the real rivals

3/10/2008 4:47:43 PM

^^
1. MS
2. MS
3. MS wins Spanish version

^Where is 18th St?

3/10/2008 5:05:18 PM

MS as in MicroSoft?

3/10/2008 5:06:24 PM

18th st is MS13 old rivals from LA. there are some local 18th street cliques in the area though.

3/10/2008 5:12:10 PM

ah Mara 18, wasn't sure if it was the same.

3/10/2008 5:23:45 PM

Quote :

"so the police chief says that the same guy attempted to use her card in a convenience store and they have video of it. coming soon"

3/10/2008 5:28:10 PM

Does that mean it didn't go through when he tried to buy grape drank?

3/10/2008 5:29:28 PM

tried to buy some bacon

3/10/2008 5:31:00 PM

19th st gangsters vs the river terrace crew

3/10/2008 5:45:26 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2550588/

oh yeah, no way in hell this is prosecuted as a hate crime

[Edited on March 10, 2008 at 5:57 PM. Reason : .]

3/10/2008 5:55:04 PM

Anyone know why the police avoid releasing the time, date, or location of these photos? I'm pretty sure I know the answer but in order to verify that your answer is original and accurate, I'm not going to mention my theory just yet.

3/10/2008 5:59:59 PM

the guy who colored that one image shouldnt have released his name.

gangs will come after him now

3/10/2008 6:00:55 PM

if that guy killed her just to use her debit card...oh.my.god. yea...here in the year 2008 stores and atms don't have cameras. oh and what did he think he'd just roll up to the bank and guess her pin number? unbelievable

3/10/2008 6:03:08 PM

Quote :

"Anyone know why the police avoid releasing the time, date, or location of these photos"

They wont release all the info till the trial. It affects the integrity of the case when they release too much info too soon.

3/10/2008 6:20:34 PM

paging mike nifong

3/10/2008 6:26:27 PM

^^"integrity of the case"? That's mentioned constantly on television by police officers as an excuse for not answering certain information but what specifically does it mean? I guess there might be a lot of reasons, but there is one very crucial reason for not revealing information in a case like this. Why issue a photo, but not a timestamp?

3/10/2008 6:51:32 PM