Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
He's not a distraction. It's already been said that he'll be the backup if he stays with the Packers. 7/28/2008 11:54:46 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He's not a distraction" |
All the other Packers players over the last 3 preseasons disagree7/28/2008 12:00:37 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
The last two camp, yes; this camp, no.
Seriously though, 8 wins in 06, 13 in 07. This distraction is destroying the team!
[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM. Reason : ] 7/28/2008 12:06:46 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
probably not the least bit distracting to Rodgers. Favre has really made his transition from college to the NFL a smooth one] 7/28/2008 12:12:15 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
We can speculate about that, but neither of us really knows for sure.
[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM. Reason : ] 7/28/2008 12:13:57 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
Rodgers will end up being a better qb because he actually did what they should do and sit a few years and learn. If he was thrown into the fire when he came out of college he would have already been spit out of the league and into the CFL or worse.
David Carr and Joey Harrington envy Aaron Rodgers.
[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 2:31 PM. Reason : suck at spelling] 7/28/2008 2:31:02 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
orrrrrrrrrr
All this frenzy created by Favre has the fans calling for Rodgers' head after the team is 2-4 to start the season. Seriously, how tough is this kid? 7/28/2008 2:37:41 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
Fans are relentless anyway, if Favre retires 2 years ago and Rodgers went 2-4 they would have been calling for them to draft someone else. That is why it is so tough to be a rookie qb, the fans don't give you time, they want to win now.
I think he is going to be a terrific qb, and I just don't think he would have if he were playing 2 years ago. 7/28/2008 2:47:25 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
Oh I agree, but if Favre is waiting in the wings, and Rodgers has a shitty start then that is it for him there. 7/28/2008 2:58:55 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Rogers will never be a great QB in this league, not even top 10 7/28/2008 3:02:59 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
He won't be waiting in the wings, after all this he is not going to be on the sideline, the Packers are a well run organization and they are smarter then that.
Time will tell the type of QB he is, but if he is playing 3 years ago he has no shot, now, I think he could be decent. With that defense, some of the playmakers they have, might be good enough to win some games. 7/28/2008 3:15:39 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like EA sports jumped the gun
7/29/2008 5:29:36 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
its gonna be funny as shit to see him as a Viking this year] 7/30/2008 11:25:29 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
I laughed out loud when I saw the headline to this story
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3511028
it's just so crazy how far this has come 7/31/2008 3:05:31 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "All this frenzy created by Favre has the fans calling for Rodgers' head after the team is 2-4 to start the season. Seriously, how tough is this kid?" |
Who do you think they are? Panthers fans?7/31/2008 7:41:35 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah cause if Rodgers starts the season and they go 2-4 in their first 6 games, the classy Packers fans will continue to cheer on Rodgers and won't chant for Favre
They're the best fans in sports though, thats why when the Jets were beating that ass a couple years ago at Lambeau half the stadium left in the 3rd quarter
It is funny to see all the anger and frustration from Packers fans lately though (ie ^)...they know the end is near with Favre, and they're already setting themselves up for disappointment] 7/31/2008 10:18:15 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
What now?
I really like Aaron Rodgers. I don't think I've ever made that a secret. 7/31/2008 12:19:03 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
so apparently, according to espn.com, the Packers are seeking out a possible trade with the Vikings or Bears for Favre.
this shit is crazy 7/31/2008 1:26:55 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Minnesota could be a top 5 team with Favre
They already have a top 5 defense and a top 5 running game
The only thing holding them back is Travaris Motherfucking Jackson 7/31/2008 1:33:41 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
thats what i have said all along they should do
I dont see WHY they would do it with the bears or vikings, especially vikings, but o well.
they wanted to get something out of him in value, and the terrible teams they were talking about trading with Favre didnt want to go and wouldnt have went. So now something good is on the table and he shows interest.
He has played this PERFECTLY to be honest, more power to him. Doing everything right and by the book in my eyes. One more reason to love the guy. and I REALLLLLLY hope he goes to Minn.
Jackson threw 2 picks in 7 on 7 yesterday. I could do better than that. 7/31/2008 1:33:55 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Doing everything right and by the book in my eyes. One more reason to love the guy." |
i think a lot of people would disagree...I'm sure the media plays a role, but he's basically, for the last 3 years said, "Ok I'm retiring. Yes I'm positive" and then when training camp is about to start he says "Ok I'm not ready to retire yet after all, I'm coming back"...Green Bay seemed to get the shaft the last few years (even though they had a great year last year)...I'm sure if they knew they were going to be in for the ensuing circus, they wouldn't have wasted a 1st round pick on Rodgers7/31/2008 1:37:27 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I think its pretty obvious why they were so hesitant trading him to a division rival
Its like if you break up with a girl, you want her next BF to be someone you don't know so you never have to see her again
Trading Favre to the Vikings or Bears would be like dumping a girl and then having your best friend pick her up so you have to see them all the time 7/31/2008 1:39:31 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
thank goodness the Packers already have said that they wont be doing the jersey retirement ceremony for Favre on the first game of the season this year. I'm going to make sure that I am watching the Packers/Vikings game this season (if Favre actually gets traded there) 7/31/2008 1:55:34 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Its the first MNF game of the year
I'd guess 95 percent of all NFL fans will be watching it 7/31/2008 1:58:17 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he's basically, for the last 3 years said, "Ok I'm retiring. Yes I'm positive"" |
That didn't happen in 2006 or 2007, only this year.
Quote : | "I'm sure if they knew they were going to be in for the ensuing circus, they wouldn't have wasted a 1st round pick on Rodgers" |
Why not? They've got a guy who's had three years under the best quarterback in the game, he hasn't had to take his lumps like Carr or Harrington. I think the Packers are big winners in the whole thing, so long as they get something in return for Favre.
[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 2:12 PM. Reason : ]7/31/2008 2:08:29 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That didn't happen in 2006 or 2007, only this year." |
Well, he has sat on his plans until the last possible minute each time. And this year AFTER he initially retired, he came back to the Packers and said that he wanted to come back. This was before the draft, so the Packers prepared to setup a press conference welcoming him back with open arms, but favre-a-licious dicked them around again and changed his mind at the last minute. They told him they needed to know by the draft. Well, here he comes again a few months after the draft and favred the packers again.7/31/2008 3:06:40 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Well, he has sat on his plans until the last possible minute each time." |
Not really until the last possible minute. But, yeah, I agree it's pretty lame. I was just saying that he never came close to saying "OK, I'm retiring. Yes, I'm positive" in 2006 or 2007.7/31/2008 3:26:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
i'm ready for something to happen
favre apparently chartered a plane tonight from mississippi to green bay...whether or not its to go to camp, or sign some trade documents, who knows 7/31/2008 3:29:21 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
yeah this really needs to end. 7/31/2008 3:49:27 PM |
WCH777 All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N70NB
most likely this is his flight. 7/31/2008 3:50:41 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
oh gah, are you serious?
not this again 7/31/2008 4:00:02 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i got $20 that says his plane goes down and puts an end to all of this. 7/31/2008 4:02:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
then Manny Ramirez will leap into the air and give Favre's corpse a high five inside the airplane 7/31/2008 4:05:04 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
he'll do it from his flight to miami. 7/31/2008 4:11:45 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
soooo supposedly the packers offered Brett $20 million over 10 years to stay home and not be involved in anything.
thats ridiculous.
I hope that organization goes down in a blackhole of losing this year and Brett wins a superbowl, I think he has a lot of peoples backing on this and their support now. 7/31/2008 5:53:53 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
If I was a Packer fan, I'd scratch my head at that. Paying someone 20mil over 10 years just to stay away? could use that money to get a good free agent a few years from now instead, and trade favre to get a pick or two.
Can't hold the guy hostage if he wants to play football and has the ability, that just isn't right even if he did change his mind 50 times. 7/31/2008 5:57:39 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think he has a lot of peoples backing on this and their support now." |
Too bad he doesn't have the support of a football team, rofl7/31/2008 11:31:26 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and trade favre to get a pick or two." |
If they could trade him, they would trade him. It takes two, ya know?
Quote : | "Can't hold the guy hostage if he wants to play football and has the ability, that just isn't right even if he did change his mind 50 times." |
Sure you can, watch.7/31/2008 11:35:52 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "soooo supposedly the packers offered Brett $20 million over 10 years to stay home and not be involved in anything." |
This is incorrect and another thing that ESPN has jumped the gun on.
http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/07/31/favre-willing-to-take-packers-offer.aspx
Quote : | "An NFL source who wanted the Packers' side to be explained, said Murphy first proposed a 10-year formal relationship with Favre in March after the quarterback's retirement and did not first bring it up during his nine-hour visit to Hattiesburg Thursday. There were occasional talks about it between March and June before Favre started making noise about wanting to return to football.
Murphy, the source said, decided that with the two sides at an impasse to meet with Favre face-to-face to finalize a post-retirement deal. He told Favre and Cook that the deal was on the table regardless if Favre decided to come back.
"He felt it was important to let Brett know face to face that he was serious about a long-term relationship regardless of his intentions to play football," the source said. "Regardless of how it was interpreted, it was a continuation of a discussion in March to formalize a long-term relationship."" |
It's my understanding that it's a similiar deal was offered to Marino when he retired by the Dolphins. The dollar value is meant to be in line with the remaining money on his contract, which is more like 25 million (12 this year; 13 next) than just a straight up 20.
[Edited on August 1, 2008 at 12:25 AM. Reason : .]8/1/2008 12:24:06 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
guess it was still offered
and it was the first anyone had heard about it
so it had legs 8/1/2008 12:25:19 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
It's just more fuel to the fire so that ESPN can make it through the next two weeks until the preseason starts. 8/1/2008 12:27:30 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
so apparently Steve Smith didn't go back to Charlotte from Spartanburg, but he flew to Mississippi and sucker punched Brett Favre] 8/1/2008 2:31:36 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
^ When midgets attack? 8/1/2008 6:44:32 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure Favre is getting close to Smith's height as his elderly bones shrink and get brittle 8/1/2008 7:09:21 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
id love to see smith try to catch a favre pass. if he cant handle testaverde strikes lol. 8/1/2008 7:34:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
yeah Smith is horrible, I'm surprised he got 1,000 receiving yards last year 8/1/2008 7:36:21 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I bet a punch from Steve Smith would hurt a lot more if were wearing a large, gaudy ring of some sort. 8/1/2008 11:53:00 PM |
EdFurlong All American 677 Posts user info edit post |
wat 8/2/2008 12:04:26 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Smith is pretty small and weak like Quinn said...he probably wouldn't even be able to lift his arm if he wore a gaudy ring, unless he numbed the pain with Vicodin] 8/2/2008 2:46:53 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
That makes sense why he'd have to punch someone while they were on one knee then. 8/2/2008 10:29:09 AM |