skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
both are doing better than I expected but I get the feeling that McCain is calmer and Obama is getting more worked up
Trying to be unbiased I would score McCain ahead so far...not by much though 9/26/2008 9:49:46 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
So far this is very much even....I mean, I dont know if you think any differently about either candidate really 9/26/2008 9:50:43 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
definitely an even debate so far. both are doing relatively well.
we're not used to this after the last 2 elections
[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 9:54 PM. Reason : ,] 9/26/2008 9:52:16 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
Obama got destroyed. He doesn't understand that it isn't about why we went into Iraq it's about winning the war now so that we don't loose everything they troops fought for to begin with.
You can tell Obama is getting frustrated because he is being heavily questioned about his positions.
[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 9:53 PM. Reason : .] 9/26/2008 9:52:22 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
bigun20's take:
Quote : | "I DECLARE MY FAVORITE CANDIDATE THE WINNER
THE OTHER GUY LOOKED LIKE A JACKASS" |
i think we can all effectively ignore you from here on out
[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 9:53 PM. Reason : .]9/26/2008 9:53:33 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not impressed with either.
really quite frustrating that neither one of them are giving substantive answers.
granted that's how politicians function i suppose 9/26/2008 9:53:53 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
We're showing it at Galaxy Cinema tonight. Over 250 people showed up, it's been crazy. 9/26/2008 9:54:43 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think we can all effectively ignore you from here on out" |
No, if you don't see the major loopholes in Obamas Iraq stance after that then something is wrong.9/26/2008 9:55:38 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
debate is really enthralling my mother....
she's asleep and snoring 9/26/2008 9:58:15 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
^ what are you talking about? I think that his answers are actually stronger about Iraq. 9/26/2008 9:58:27 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
CNN has a live web stream showing the usual graph of rep/dem/ind instant polling.
So far, WHen McCain speaks its Rep high, Dem low, independent inbetween same with Obama except switch Rep and Dem
Rarely does the ind graph shoot above the partisan one, only Obama once I think.
btw, I bet it doesnt move much bc people are worrying about their wallet more than the FP issues being discussed, lame duck debate
[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 9:59 PM. Reason : ] 9/26/2008 9:58:59 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Overall, neither candidate is pulling away from the other. They aren't fucking up but they aren't winning. Ultimately, that's not really good for McCain given the current poll trends. He needed to come out and win this thing big.
Also, why the hell has McCain not looked at Obama?
[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 10:03 PM. Reason : :] 9/26/2008 10:00:41 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
let's compare jewelry! 9/26/2008 10:01:30 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
BRACELET WAR! 9/26/2008 10:01:32 PM |
UberCool All American 3457 Posts user info edit post |
did mccain just say "if we suffer defeat in iraq, which general petraeus predicts we will..."?
[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 10:04 PM. Reason : or did i mishear?] 9/26/2008 10:03:08 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
With all the talk about McCain getting angry and out of control, it's actually Obama that looks frustrated and angry. 9/26/2008 10:04:02 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
WE CAN'T ALLOW ANOTHER HOLOCAUST
ok, glad we got that out of the way
Quote : | "did mccain just say "if we suffer defeat in iraq, which general petraus predicts we will... if we adopted Obama's plan"?" | is what he said
[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 10:04 PM. Reason : .]9/26/2008 10:04:09 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
a second holocaust?
whaaa? 9/26/2008 10:04:16 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
They don't have any fucking bracelets on, those liars. 9/26/2008 10:04:28 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
this league of democracies sounds kind of familiar 9/26/2008 10:04:44 PM |
UberCool All American 3457 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ah...good catch. thanks 9/26/2008 10:05:22 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
McCain: "They (Iran) have a lousy government so therefore they have a lousy economy"
Ironic much?
Obama just said Russia was not a democracy
[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 10:08 PM. Reason : ] 9/26/2008 10:06:21 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
holy crap, you'd think he could say the name at this point. 9/26/2008 10:08:36 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
damn, this answer from mccain is waaaaay too convoluted
you lost me, man
[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 10:09 PM. Reason : .] 9/26/2008 10:09:08 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Hey McCain, what part of "not talking to people hasn't accomplished anything" don't you understand? 9/26/2008 10:09:11 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Obama just said Russia was not a democracy" |
lol did he really, I didn't hear that part9/26/2008 10:09:42 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
"i reserve the right as the President to meet with anyone of my choosing if I believe it will benefit us" boom 9/26/2008 10:10:33 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Obama was strong on Iran, nice job 9/26/2008 10:12:37 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
a couple things:
1. silent audience = great idea
2. I wish Obama would just drop the whole Bush thing...last time I checked he wasn't running for president 9/26/2008 10:12:51 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
"i dont even have a seal yet"
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRNN 9/26/2008 10:13:03 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
do you really think russia is a democracy? 9/26/2008 10:13:10 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
"can't meet with PM of Spain" hmm, that was a cheap shot. Could have just as easily said "McCain didn't know who the PM of Spain was", which would have been true, and just as damning 9/26/2008 10:13:27 PM |
tl All American 8430 Posts user info edit post |
Before we talk, you have to agree with me. Then we can talk about how much we agree with each other. 9/26/2008 10:13:28 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Hahahahaha, i cant believe he brought up the Spain gaffe. That was pretty cold. 9/26/2008 10:14:05 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
McCain needs to shove it on the "sit down without precondition" it's old, and lame 9/26/2008 10:14:30 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
McCain: South Koreans are 3" taller than North Koreans
and we are a foot taller 9/26/2008 10:15:16 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
countdown to McCain calling Obama a pussy for not blindly standing up for Georgia..... 9/26/2008 10:17:11 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
ha, boom - first words out of his mouth 9/26/2008 10:18:42 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
fucking christ...mccain is stuck in the 80's 9/26/2008 10:20:09 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
^hes still in his 70's though 9/26/2008 10:20:36 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
if only obama would change his mind on capital gains taxes i'd be fully on board 9/26/2008 10:23:51 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
"most of the reforms" of the 9/11 commission are enacted....? I'd really like to see the data behind that. Last I heard, most of those points were flat out ignored 9/26/2008 10:27:40 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ capital gains taxes are too low right now. 9/26/2008 10:28:03 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
"billions into airport security" = wasted money
^^^ yeah, i'd be really curious how much you're making yearly on capital gains such that the tax rate is your deciding factor between these two guys....
[Edited on September 26, 2008 at 10:29 PM. Reason : .] 9/26/2008 10:28:57 PM |
Wyloch All American 4244 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He doesn't understand that it isn't about why we went into Iraq it's about winning the war now so that we don't loose everything they troops fought for to begin with" |
I wonder when people will realize that you don't simply get a free pass for screwing up on a world scale by merely saying "let's look to the future, not to the past."9/26/2008 10:29:59 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
OBAMA IS WINNING 9/26/2008 10:32:05 PM |
skankinande All American 28213 Posts user info edit post |
Obama is gonna personally go and kill Osama 9/26/2008 10:32:21 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I just switched to an HD TV, and McCain looks like he's about to tear (as in crying) up. 9/26/2008 10:32:40 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
I wish Obama would proclaim HDTV for all middle class Americans. 9/26/2008 10:33:51 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I think the most striking thing so far is that both of them come off as far more competent than either Bush or Kerry from the last election. 9/26/2008 10:34:31 PM |