People who are vegetarians to protect animals are retarded. I was going to hit on this chick at work, but then she said she didn't eat meat, when i asked why she said to protect the animals, too which i shook my head.

Peta is for Saps. I evolved eating animals. Its supposed to be a part of my diet. Sure its 'wrong' to harvest chickens just to kill them, but at least they won't be going extinct any time soon lulz.

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2/5/2009 7:58:58 PM

4.02

yes

2/5/2009 7:58:59 PM

"If a big animal had a chance, it wouldn't take a second glance, it'd eat you up"

-Nofx

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2/5/2009 7:59:27 PM

Humans are meant to be omnivores and reaching the peak of health does not require being a veggie. That's a big misconception.

2/5/2009 8:00:22 PM

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"My personal stance on vegetarianism is this: I totally understand it from an ethical standpoint; from a human health standpoint, I believe it to be, quite simply, a substandard diet at best — and that’s being giving. People routinely undertake methods and courses of action that are not necessarily healthy in order to realize a “higher cause”; athletes and sports-enhancing drugs, the shear physical toll extracted from some sports, poor eating, sleeping and a the general disregard for overall health that is sometimes endured and as trade-off to achieving loftiness in regards work, business or academia. I’m not here to judge the merits or trade-offs of these issues, I would simply prefer these folks to go into such endeavors with eyes wide open, with a full understanding of the costs involved. I agree with the vegetarian movement in their contention that the ethical treatment of livestock is, with few exceptions, wholly lacking in the current “government-industrial food complex”. However, I feel that totally eschewing the consumption of animal protein is not the answer — nor do I think it is in any way, shape or form, healthy (ok, vegetarianism is healthier than the standard western diet — but that ain’t sayin’ much). Instead of sacrificing my own health, though, I’d rather bring about change by helping support local farmers who raise animal protein ethically, and under environmentally sustainable conditions. It’s expensive at the moment, yes — especially as compared to the government supported, Big Ag version — but the potential pay-off is immense, both in terms of improved human health and animal quality of life."

I thought this was interesting and well thought-out. I've been reading a lot about the Paleo diet lately.

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2/5/2009 8:04:35 PM

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"Save a plant, eat a cow I want beef, I want it now! I'm gonna eat it cause it's red! I'm gonna eat it cause it's dead! maybe I should eat it raw Let the blood run down my jaw I'd eat people if it was legal I'd eat people if it was legal!"

-Reel Big Fish

2/5/2009 8:04:54 PM

^^^honestly, i don't know enough about health and nutrition to uphold or refute some seemingly bogus claim of a mythical "peak of healthiness."

i do know, however, that both vegetarians and carnivores can be healthy people. eating meat is not a requirement, nor is abstaining from it.

[Edited on February 5, 2009 at 8:05 PM. Reason : not trying to be rude here, i just don't see either diet as being "better" than the other]

2/5/2009 8:05:13 PM

If you don't know enough about it, how can you deem it bogus.

Does not compute.

Human history agrees with me, lol.

2/5/2009 8:06:36 PM

i said i can't refute it either. and i also said "seemingly bogus."

2/5/2009 8:07:27 PM

I have never met a veggie that did not project their views on people

2/5/2009 8:10:37 PM

^ that's too bad.

2/5/2009 8:11:38 PM

Humans are developed to be omnivores. They have the digestive enzymes to break down meat, they have premolars to puncture/crack bone, they have canine teeth that are a pure meat adaption. We also have teeth for eating plants, incisors are for both, but molars are more for vegetation. It would seem to me that I'm much more likely to be right, strictly from an anatomical standpoint.

2/5/2009 8:11:41 PM

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"I have never met a veggie that did not project their views on people hadn't lost a ton of weight and after a few years didn't look unhealthy as shit "

2/5/2009 8:11:53 PM

Yeah its like evan. Most veggies won't stfu about it. I don't really care what you eat. You don't see me talking about all the burgers i eat...

^^Things that aren't needed are never selected for. Supporting your theory.

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2/5/2009 8:12:35 PM

Great with A1 sauce. Would eat again.

2/5/2009 8:16:39 PM

I only eat animals i could kill in the wild.


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2/5/2009 8:18:49 PM

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"Have you ever seen a healthy-looking vegetarian? They look like shit! They're all gaunt and yellow. After a while, their bodies become intolerant of other things. I'll give you an example. I was out to lunch with a comedian friend of mine, and later in the day he said- and I quote- "I feel nauseous and I have a headache. That soup I had must have had beef broth in it." Your system's kickin back broth? You're a manly man, aren't you?"

2/5/2009 8:19:06 PM

It is a turn of if a chick is ridin dirty

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2/5/2009 8:19:11 PM

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"Humans are developed to be omnivores. They have the digestive enzymes to break down meat, they have premolars to puncture/crack bone, they have canine teeth that are a pure meat adaption. We also have teeth for eating plants, incisors are for both, but molars are more for vegetation. It would seem to me that I'm much more likely to be right, strictly from an anatomical standpoint."

from an anatomical standpoint, i guess you are much more likely to be "right."

i didn't know this was a right/wrong argument. i thought we were discussing the perceived unhealthiness of a vegetarian diet.

2/5/2009 8:20:18 PM

a) to people who are saying they've never met a veggie that didn't project their views on others...you eat meat...what are you doing right now?? hmmm

b) as i said before, there are other cultures that eat, and have eaten, primarily vegetarian diets for years and years and years and years and YEARS. it isn't a new thing or that bizarre.

c) i don't think it is such a shame that people worry about what they are putting into their bodies, whatever diet they choose. it is PROBABLY a good thing to think about.

d) most (and i could go out on a limb and say ALL) vegetarians i know do not abstain from meat because they don't want to eat animals. i feel like no one does this after age 15. apparently, i'm wrong...but i'm just saying maybe you guys know all the wrong people or something.

e) i just don't care that much what people eat. if i go on a date with you and you have bad manners or shit on your plate and eat it, then i will likely have a problem

2/5/2009 8:22:11 PM

Suddenly above the argument once I uphold my seemingly bogus claim? Now that's rather convenient ladies and gents. You make Bambi cry.

I've got a few friends that are veggies and they are rather thin, but I wouldn't say they are unhealthy, per se.

2/5/2009 8:26:21 PM

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"a) to people who are saying they've never met a veggie that didn't project their views on others...you eat meat...what are you doing right now?? hmmm b) as i said before, there are other cultures that eat, and have eaten, primarily vegetarian diets for years and years and years and years and YEARS. it isn't a new thing or that bizarre. c) i don't think it is such a shame that people worry about what they are putting into their bodies, whatever diet they choose. it is PROBABLY a good thing to think about. d) most (and i could go out on a limb and say ALL) vegetarians i know do not abstain from meat because they don't want to eat animals. i feel like no one does this after age 15. apparently, i'm wrong...but i'm just saying maybe you guys know all the wrong people or something. e) i just don't care that much what people eat. if i go on a date with you and you have bad manners or shit on your plate and eat it, then i will likely have a problem"

a) What the fuck are you talking about? I didn’t tell you to eat meat, I said it was a turnoff when a girl fucking preaches to me about it. Also, when was the last time you went out and met a carnivore that told you that you are bad for eating salads. Come on…
b) I do not give a fuck about the other culture. Odds are I wouldn’t date the girl from that country if this was her belief
c) What does this have to do with being a turn on or turn off?
d) Maybe I have been unlucky, maybe
e) I don’t care what they eat either, just don’t tell me what I should be eating

2/5/2009 8:27:34 PM

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"Suddenly above the argument once I uphold my seemingly bogus claim? Now that's rather convenient ladies and gents."

lol. i just said: "i didn't know this was a right/wrong argument. i thought we were discussing the perceived unhealthiness of a vegetarian diet."

how did this even become about right and wrong? you still haven't proven to me that eating healthier definitively means eating meat.

2/5/2009 8:31:47 PM

like i said i don't know anyone that tries to force their diet on me at all. so i don't have a problem with it. and i would never dislike someone just because they were a vegetarian and i'm not. on that principle ALONE.

if they were all uppity about it, yes. but being an elitist and a vegetarian are not necessarily the same thing. even if all the vegetarians you've met are like that. if every black person i've met is a criminal, it still doesn't mean all black people are criminals.

get the point? i just don't understand not liking someone SOLELY because they are a vegetarian. i don't think it is picky--it is just different. and how is thinking about what goes into your body NOT a turn off/turn on. if you see someone that is like 500lbs eating 7 bigmacs in mcdonald's you are probably like "wow that guy should think about what he is doing"

or maybe you aren't, i dunno. but that is gross to me.

and if you are eating shit like actual shit, i'm probably going to tell you not to eat it

p.s. i'm not a vegetarian. so don't get all hot and bothered.

2/5/2009 8:32:16 PM

guys is it a turn off if a girl cleans her plate and is up for dessert?

bc thats how i roll when i eat. i never miss a meal and i need 3 meals a day and usually 2 snacks in between

2/5/2009 8:32:18 PM

effing keyboard

[Edited on February 5, 2009 at 8:34 PM. Reason : hgjhg]

2/5/2009 8:34:03 PM

a) I have a good friend that doesn't project his views on anyone. It's actually a real health issue for this dude, not some look-at-me I'm different complex. He's got IBS, so his intestines can't take meat.
b)The Mediterranean diet is very much like this and is considered one of the healthiest diets in the world. However, it does not lack meat entirely.
c) It's not a shame to be concerned about what you eat. The thread is about whether or not it's a turn off. It all depends on the individual and how they present it. If they are nonchalant about it, it's not going to be a turn-off. If you have to listen to propaganda during your date, it's a turn-off.
d) These are the people you know though.
e) It's not a huge deal, unless it's a huge deal.

^^
Nah, I love that. I hate girls that get water and a salad on the first date. So fake.

[Edited on February 5, 2009 at 8:37 PM. Reason : -]

2/5/2009 8:36:04 PM

i guess we should get back on topic.

it's not a turn-off for me if a girl is a vegetarian as long as she doesn't mind that i eat meat.

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"guys is it a turn off if a girl cleans her plate and is up for dessert? bc thats how i roll when i eat. i never miss a meal and i need 3 meals a day and usually 2 snacks in between"

not a turn off at all!

2/5/2009 8:38:44 PM

salad and water are cool

but i need a salad the size of brazil with some protein in it, not some skimpy ass side shit

who cares what people decide to eat, its really not a big deal. if you have problems with vegetarians, hang out with other people or avoid the subject

2/5/2009 8:40:33 PM

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"I hate girls that get water and a salad on the first date. So fake."

but i like salad. it is better with chicken. and i'd probably order a beer with it though so hopefully that brings the realness for you.

2/5/2009 8:45:17 PM

I think I'd mumble "fuck yea" to myself if I had a girl order a salad and a beer on a first date

2/5/2009 8:47:19 PM

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"but i like salad. it is better with chicken. and i'd probably order a beer with it though so hopefully that brings the realness for you."

If you like salad, get a salad. If you like steak, get a steak. Don't start off with a lie is all I'm saying. There is plenty of time for that later, lol.

^
and if she wants it in a chilled glass, you know she's the one.

[Edited on February 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM. Reason : -]

2/5/2009 8:59:10 PM

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"nothing spicy, no condiments, no red meat or seafood, no mixing of sauces — they flee."

I'd flee too

lol finished reading the thread.

The job I currently work attracts a lot of vegetarians for whatever reason. Of the 20 I've met here, only two I would have considered a laid back person. Every other one made work functions that involved food a fucking nightmare. I understand that part of it is the language and cultural barrier, but if you are going to have severe restrictions on your diet, the least you could do is learn how to say, "I will only eat fruits and vegetables," in the local language.

[Edited on February 5, 2009 at 9:12 PM. Reason : .]

2/5/2009 9:06:37 PM

There's a lot of hate and confusion surrounding the various forms of vegetarianism in this thread.
I'm sure that all of it is perfectly logical, and none of it based on stereotypes, prejudice, or elitism.


...not to mention the thread is supposed to be about pickiness.
(vegetarianism has absolutely nothing to do with pickiness)

2/6/2009 1:02:24 AM