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1/5/2009 11:44:55 PM

shit yo

seriously, i'm going to be selling wood and metal jewelry on etsy within the next two weeks

i'll bttt this thread when i get my store up ok

1/5/2009 11:44:57 PM

lol just make your own thread. It will get buried in here.

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:45 PM. Reason : .]

1/5/2009 11:45:01 PM

wait wait wait - I can't wrap my head around this.

Not even a year ago - you were so destitute and worthless that you were living off your boyfriend rent free and had massive credit card debt AND CONTINUED TO LIVE WITH HIM RENT FREE AND BITCH AFTER YOU BROKE UP.

Now you own a fucking house and have a fiancee?

1/5/2009 11:45:17 PM

page 3 gave me a headache.

1/5/2009 11:45:23 PM

god damn $500 for a 16x20 piece of shit?

1/5/2009 11:45:23 PM

^{however far up that was}... or the post right below this one.

"4 a: the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects"

Would be the most accurate definition in this context. But fuck the "aesthetic objects" part, performance is (can be) art as well. But a Webster entry really doesn't do the term justice at all.

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:47 PM. Reason : .]

1/5/2009 11:45:30 PM

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" Main Entry: 2art Listen to the pronunciation of 2art Pronunciation: \'ärt\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin art-, ars — more at arm Date: 13th century 1: skill acquired by experience, study, or observation 2 a: a branch of learning: (1): one of the humanities (2)plural : liberal arts barchaic : learning , scholarship3: an occupation requiring knowledge or skill 4 a: the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects ; also : works so produced b (1): fine arts (2): one of the fine arts (3): a graphic art5 aarchaic : a skillful plan b: the quality or state of being artful6: decorative or illustrative elements in printed matter"

for the new page ( i just like adding fuel )

1/5/2009 11:46:10 PM

i've already got several rings made from guayacan wood (Lignum vitae)

its the hardest wood man has found, and the rings are baller

i've got some that i made a two piece veneer with the guayacan and maple (which is still a relatively strong wood)

shits primo

1/5/2009 11:47:17 PM

haha [user][/user]elise[user]

No one told me art meant i had to be fucking emotional

does it count that meddling in art makes me happiest?

1/5/2009 11:48:06 PM

number 6

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"6: decorative or illustrative elements in printed matter"

1/5/2009 11:48:59 PM

why do you confuse "emotional" with sad?

jesus. its like you're a modern music critic.

your art can certainly convey happiness.

1/5/2009 11:49:42 PM

I didn't know people painted just for money. Usually painters do this hobby because like any other hobby it gives release, makes them happy, etc

boat painting is up now, price was recommended by a gallery owner

1/5/2009 11:52:18 PM

don't kid yourself. it starts like most musicians--you start because of the love, the catharsis, etc. I imagine when you start to make money at it--even a LIVING--your motivation shifts. hence, so many bands losing creativity, etc, in their latter years. I'm sure the same goes for artists. shit, why the fuck else would you post it on etsy if you weren't trying to capitalize on it?

1/5/2009 11:55:01 PM

on your $245 sub painting, why is there a separation in the middle of the "con tower"

what were you trying to say in that space?

1/5/2009 11:55:12 PM

its a commentary on the nature of modern warfare right

the communication is all one-directional, so you don't even need a way to reach your home country or even navigate, even if you wind up running aground

thats it, right?

1/5/2009 11:57:14 PM

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" BOB MOTHERFUCKIN' ROSS "

1/5/2009 11:57:24 PM

^^^ "put some personal pan pizzas in there"

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:57 PM. Reason : book it points]

1/5/2009 11:57:29 PM

Because people kept telling me to sell my shit so I decided to give it a shot.

Woodfoot, my long lost desire to beat conformity is in that blank space

1/5/2009 11:57:29 PM

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"2art"

To Art (verb) - the practice of making art. Usually used by someone entering a room where art has occurred (see also: collage). use "Who fucking arted all over the floor?"

1/5/2009 11:58:06 PM

it's easy to beat conformity when your stomach is bloated from pizza hut's personal pan pizzas

1/5/2009 11:58:37 PM

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"No one told me art meant i had to be fucking emotional does it count that meddling in art makes me happiest?"

Jesus, kiwi, this really isn't a difficult concept to wrap your head around. You don't have to be an emotional person or any stupid shit like that to be an artist. That second sentence you posted? See, that's a step in the right direction, assuming you are also able to express that joy through your work.

The reason the 3-paneled tree on page 1 seems so shitty is because it looks pointless. Not pointlessness as an abstract idea that an artist is trying to channel into the painting itself and thus those who view/understand it, but pointless as in it just looks like it was created as an afterthought, with no better reason than "because it looks okay".

The boat picture? That could very well be viewed as art because it does to some degree inspire emotion and various concepts/ideas. That's probably part of the reason more people seem to like it and the reason that it pretty much blows away the other stuff you've posted. I'm not really sure why you painted it, and if you did it just for no particular reason with little regard for the actual expression involved, then... well, that's a huge disappointment.


Wow, this thread went like half a page while I typed all that.

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 12:01 AM. Reason : .]

1/5/2009 11:59:12 PM

Are you trying to be funny? not you tromboner

all my stuff brings joy. ive been wanting to do a three paneled piece for a while but i do best with mixing paints really, like the sky in the boat one. but im testing my boundaries with the flowers and such. Just practicing and I have pride in it

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 12:01 AM. Reason : ok]

1/5/2009 11:59:34 PM

I don't care if he did do it for the $$$ and it did only take him like 30 minutes,

I would freaking KILL for a Bob Ross painting.

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 12:01 AM. Reason : I agree though, the boat picture kicks ass, much better than the tree]

1/6/2009 12:00:30 AM

what has the world come to that a fine young lady like Kiwi can't paint up some stuff and call it art?

it might be bad art, but some people are on a bit of a high horse.

1/6/2009 12:01:27 AM

here's a serious question...what is your favourite music and why?

1/6/2009 12:02:05 AM

I do take all your criticisms to heart (minus the extremists)

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 12:03 AM. Reason : ^I know where that's going--i see your point]

1/6/2009 12:03:04 AM

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" I would freaking KILL for a Bob Ross painting."

Bob Ross was the man.

1/6/2009 12:05:02 AM

all I have to say is

not knowing anything about Jackson Pollock is basically inexcusable

whether or not you think his paintings are "art"

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 12:05 AM. Reason : .]

1/6/2009 12:05:05 AM

Sorry never heard of the man. Or maybe I did and just didn't like his art so quickly forgot him.

Who knows?

1/6/2009 12:05:57 AM

which begs the question

who is your favorite painter (not yourself)?

1/6/2009 12:07:13 AM

I dont save names of people who paint, there's a lot of stuff I like but after being at a few art museums one that I love, probably for the brush strokes alone is this guy:



go ahead, judge me

1/6/2009 12:09:47 AM

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"but im testing my boundaries with the flowers and such."

well, you've found your current limits

seriously, that is not a $300 piece of art

the cherry blossom (i can only assume thats what you were going for, since they're on a tree blowing in the wind) is an almost immortal artistic image

and you basically killed it


i'm gonna buy this and save 250 bucks

1/6/2009 12:11:43 AM

You mean this guy?





^ That's actually pretty cool.

http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5988949

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 12:13 AM. Reason : .]

1/6/2009 12:11:46 AM

go ahead woodfoot, not stopping you

yar wolfpack, looking at the art up close is pretty neat. incredible patience for that.

1/6/2009 12:13:27 AM

no wonder you dish your brush strokes around like fucking pennies in a fountain

1/6/2009 12:13:35 AM

lol wat

1/6/2009 12:14:26 AM

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"Just practicing and I have pride in it"

Ah, so it's just practice and seeing what you can do?

That's perfectly legitimate then... I still wouldn't call it art, nor try to sell it were I in your position, but it gives me some more perspective on what you are trying to do. Kind of like how I wouldn't try to sell warm-up chords and scales nor pass them off as art, though they are still something that must be done.

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"my long lost desire to beat conformity is in that blank space"

It might be a bit simple, but it looks like you do understand the concept after all, at least kinda.

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"it might be bad art"

I'm not really that into painted/drawn art, but as far as I know you can't really have "bad" art in that medium unless you're a 3rd-grader trying to convey his emotion through stick figures (again, something emotionless would not be good or bad art, it would not be art at all). In a field where virtually any output is passable and even praised (see pollock's splotches), it really limits what can be considered technically sound or technically flawed.

(As opposed to music, which does actually have a fairly recognizable means of determining what sounds good from what sounds bad. You could play a D and D-flat simultaneously for a few seconds to express your rage, but unless it was in the context of a more technically sound piece, it would easily fall within the realm of "bad" art... but now I'm just rambling.)

1/6/2009 12:16:11 AM

were you serious with "this guy"
do you seriously not know that "starry night" is van gogh? or were you just playing around ?/

I was serious about my music question too...

1/6/2009 12:17:18 AM

do you know one of the first steps in telling a forgery from the real painting?

these days they use 3-d x-ray technology to count the different brush strokes

see, real artists know what they're going for, get the brush strokes they need, and they're done

people trying to copy a specific look or specific painting will use more brush strokes than necessary

and you, dear kiwi, have brush strokes for days

1/6/2009 12:17:32 AM

Getting out of my comfort zone. But it seems all great artist's tend to stick to what they know and are distinguishable by keeping to that similar theme.

I dont know if it will sell, Im not really concerned with selling it, it'd be nice but I wouldn't mind having it on my own wall so...

I had to google van gogh to get the painting link silly

^That's gay woodfoot. blending is one of my specialties (if you haven't noticed) for the idea of a background i used a larger brush to hurry the process and get a better blending scale, HOLY SHIT READ INTO ME MORE

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 12:20 AM. Reason : lol]

1/6/2009 12:18:54 AM

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"it seems all great artist's tend to stick to what they know"

incorrect

1/6/2009 12:20:34 AM

orly? you can call something a van gogh when you see it, a picasso when you see it. wtfmate

OFF NUTS

1/6/2009 12:21:16 AM

All art is personal, and beginning artists do tend to stick with familiar subjects, feelings, etc.

1/6/2009 12:22:28 AM

I painted a kickass wolf in high school art class.

Sold it for $45 at a local art gallery.

This was the pinnacle of my artistic achievement.

1/6/2009 12:23:19 AM

The first branch painting is fucking horrible. HS art class type shit.

1/6/2009 12:23:27 AM

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"see, real artists know what they're going for, get the brush strokes they need, and they're done people trying to copy a specific look or specific painting will use more brush strokes than necessary"

Huh, I just learned. Turns out that there is in fact some semi-measurable standard for technically sound vs technically inept in that field. I retract my previous statement about the lack of "good" and "bad" in the visual medium.

That said, too many brushstrokes doesn't really make something less artistic with regards to emotion (I could have an amazingly goddamned beautiful idea in my head, but I'm positive I'd probably never manage to express it accurately without an absolute shitload of touch-ups and corrections... which is why I'm not a painter). It might make it "bad" art, but it doesn't remove the "art" status, assuming the piece in question is created with an artistic intent.

1/6/2009 12:23:42 AM

I think some artists pick up the brush without knowing what they want and going with what they feel until it progresses into something.

1/6/2009 12:25:14 AM

You really are the stupidest cunt alive.

1/6/2009 12:25:41 AM

LOL Sorry I'm affecting your life so much that you feel the need to post shit I care less about.

1/6/2009 12:26:35 AM