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6/7/2009 6:22:38 PM

this is a fine thread.

6/7/2009 6:30:18 PM

FDSO?

6/7/2009 7:04:56 PM

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6/7/2009 8:03:33 PM

Do you guys still use Halon systems to extinguish fires or has it been replaced with something more environmentally friendly? IIRC my dad said his planes still have the "puppy snuffers" in the luggage compartments should a fire erupt in that section of the plane, but that was about 5 years ago... I'm curious if changes have been made since.

[Edited on June 15, 2009 at 10:49 PM. Reason : .]

6/15/2009 10:48:08 PM

have you ever seen a grown man shower?

6/15/2009 11:30:00 PM

have you ever been to a Turkish prison?

6/15/2009 11:43:18 PM

6/15/2009 11:46:20 PM

Has GPS rendered navigation aids like VOR obsolete?
And, minus the way cool factor, what's your take on glass panel displays.
(I would find them harder to read)

thanks.

6/16/2009 8:41:31 AM

yes, except for on GA aircraft, for the most part.

i always loved flying by VOR/sight. GPS just felt like cheating

glass cockpits are completely awesome, give you tons of information in a very readable/understandable format, and are trustworthy. however, as someone who grew up on VORs, eye sight, and ADFs, down deep, I sometimes trust the older equipment moreso than glass (just a little reluctance to new technology I guess).

6/16/2009 8:46:30 AM

Fuck this weather and not having an IFR.

That is all.

6/17/2009 2:36:32 PM

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"Fuck this weather and not having an IFR."

NOT HAVING AN INSTRUMENT FLIGHT RULES SON?

I guess you need dat IFR panel son and dat IFR cert son and dat IFR skill son.

YOU LACK DAT SHYTE SON.

6/17/2009 2:41:31 PM

Forgot about this thread.

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"Do you guys still use Halon systems to extinguish fires or has it been replaced with something more environmentally friendly? IIRC my dad said his planes still have the "puppy snuffers" in the luggage compartments should a fire erupt in that section of the plane, but that was about 5 years ago... I'm curious if changes have been made since."

Yes, we still use Halon. In the [unlikely] event of fire in the aft cargo (which is ventilated with Cabin air, the air shut off valve is closed and the heater is turned off. Then we can discharge the firex bottles as necessary. I don't think there is any ventilation overboard which is the cause of your so called "puppy snuffing". I'd have to double check that.

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"Has GPS rendered navigation aids like VOR obsolete? And, minus the way cool factor, what's your take on glass panel displays. (I would find them harder to read)"

Yes and no. It's great to have a back up, but GPS has rendered them the new NDB. They have already begun to decommission VORs and I heard a rumor that the FAA will not be commissioning any new ones. Most airways are still based on VORs however. I wouldn't expect them to disappear for at least another 10 years.

Personally I like glass. It looks more organized, and you can fit more info in less space. However, this lends you the ability to overlook information more easily.

Just got back from Rochester, NY. Austin, TX tomorrow. Yee-ha, cowboy.

6/27/2009 9:38:01 AM

yeah, every airplane i've flown with a fire system has halon bottles.

and GPS/INS is becoming a replacement for regular NAVAIDs, although I still use the TACAN some in the Prowler (and use VOR all the time when flying light civil stuff). Good to have a backup, and many aircraft (not airliners, but other stuff, to include military aircraft) aren't certified to shoot GPS approaches (although we physically could do it just fine). TACAN approaches are still used a good bit in the military (although most of the time we use GCA, or occasionally an ILS).

6/27/2009 9:47:06 AM

^Yeah the Duke brings up a good point, along with aircraft, many airports don't have GPS approaches or still utilize VOR approaches. I just shot a VOR DME into JFK last week. And I think I just won the award for most acronyms in a sentence.

6/27/2009 9:54:55 AM

On why flight attendants are so anal about having your seat up in its most uncomfortable position:

I asked one yesterday who had 26 years experience as one. She says that small 2 inch incline makes a big difference in how stable the seat is in the event of a crash.

6/27/2009 1:15:34 PM

in another words she has no idea so she's decided to pretend she has an engineering degree

6/27/2009 1:37:08 PM

do you know what types of planes are responsible for releasing chemtrails?

7/26/2009 4:55:35 AM

Only ones that fly over the heads of conspiracy theorists.

7/28/2009 6:06:22 PM

what size person does the airline industry build coach seats for? i am too much of a fatty and too tall for them. what size person did they build them for?

7/28/2009 6:45:19 PM

^^^^^^ heard from an instructor that gps will never completely replace other instruments because gps signal can be jammed with relatively small inexpensive equipment compared to VOR and other

7/28/2009 6:56:50 PM

what happens to the poop?

7/28/2009 6:58:42 PM

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"what size person does the airline industry build coach seats for? i am too much of a fatty and too tall for them. what size person did they build them for?"

Probably anywhere between an average sized male down to starving Ethiopian midget, depending on the class of aircraft. Don't expect them to get any bigger. Everyone wants their $99 fare for a ride coast to coast in an industry that can't figure out how to make any money due to a combination of piss-poor management, unpredictable fuel prices and competition.

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"^^^^^^ heard from an instructor that gps will never completely replace other instruments because gps signal can be jammed with relatively small inexpensive equipment compared to VOR and other"

Hmmmm. I don't know enough about frequency jamming to comment, however, I do know that NDBs suffer massively from interference and they are mostly in the same range as AM radio. VORs do operate in the VHF range, so are less affected by atmospheric conditions. I also know that there have been many articles discussing the FAA's intentions to decommission VORs and there has been opposition from organizations like AOPA. The FAA has already decommissioned a few VORs, and NDBs are going fast.

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"what happens to the poop?"

Nah, some dude in a truck sucks it out with a hose.

[Edited on July 29, 2009 at 11:31 PM. Reason : asdhfkasdhf last try]

7/29/2009 11:22:20 PM

bump

4/26/2010 6:25:09 PM

thx

Is there a website that shows the actual routes/flightplans for commercial flights? I mean something like google maps where you can zoom in and see which streets they are flying over.

4/26/2010 6:29:41 PM

I've yet to see something that detailed. Flightaware.com is the closest thing I know of to what you're describing. There's no interactive map overlay though. It probably wouldn't be all too difficult to incorporate a flight tracker with a map like Google's. I'm sure something like that will probably pop up sooner or later.

I had forgotten about this thread. Hopefully I'll have some new stories to add when I finally get the phone call I've been waiting on.

4/26/2010 10:54:43 PM

im deathly afraid of the engines losing power

what is the odds of this happening

4/26/2010 10:55:42 PM

One engine failing is not a super rare occurrence, it actually happened a few times a year on the last aircraft I was flying at my previous airline (not to me, though). However, this aircraft (a turboprop) has known problems with compressor stalls that were complicated by a system that you probably don't care to get into. In fact, a few of these failures were 'caused' by pilot error and the engine was able to be restarted in the air. As stated somewhere before in this thread, a single engine failure is not the end of the world. There are some situations where it may not even be noticeable to the passengers; mainly it's only a real threat during take-off and climb out.

I don't know any statistics, but suffice it to say a double engine failure is very rare. The last one you and I've probably heard about was the US Air flight that landed in the Hudson, due to a bird strike that unluckily flamed out both engines. Even then, as was [superbly] displayed by the crew, the aircraft was still flyable. The ability to salvage an aircraft under no power lies in two variables: altitude and distance to a suitable landing spot. If you have enough altitude and a place to land engines are just a plus.

In conclusion, there are more realistic things to be afraid of then engine failures. For example, fire in the air is not good.

4/26/2010 11:13:25 PM

what's it like to masturbate in the cockpit?

4/27/2010 8:16:16 AM

LIES ITT

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"Has GPS rendered navigation aids like VOR obsolete? And, minus the way cool factor, what's your take on glass panel displays. (I would find them harder to read) thanks."

Well, GPS doesn't render VORs obsolete, although they seem to become secondary when you have a GPS. You never want to get lazy in an aircraft though son, failures happen. I keep the nav radio tuned to the appropriate VORs even though I use GPS.

Glass panel displays are very useful IMO, but they can be overly distracting in VFR flight. It's extremely easy to never look outside when you have those huge displays in front of you. It seems like I saw an article recently that indicated that no increase in safety has been statistically shown. I think they said there were slightly less accidents in aircraft with glass cockpits but that the fatality rate for those accidents ended up being higher. It is possible that those statistics will improve, but even if they didn't I'd still prefer a Glass cockpit personally. It allows you to customize your displays and to rapidly obtain lots of information. Provided you're properly trained, they seem beneficial son.

4/27/2010 8:42:53 AM

^ answer the questions, flyboy

4/27/2010 8:46:44 AM

LIES SON!

4/27/2010 8:57:19 AM

who remembers that thread the airline pilot on here made about flying on lack of sleep and blowing a lot of coke to stay awake and then asked if he could pass a drug test? now that...that was a good thread.

4/27/2010 8:58:57 AM

What was your progression like? meaning ppl to where you are now. I've got my private down pat right now, and I'm wondering where to go from here. I'm thinking complex/high performance sign off then instrument. maybe from there multi, and then? When did you start instructing in this process?

4/28/2010 2:35:55 AM

Go troll somewhere else Saabdouche.

I went PSEL, PMEL, Instrument, CMEL, CSEL, MEI, CFII, CFISE, which is sort of unconventional.

I'd say going for your instrument next is not a bad idea. What's your goal? Just flying for fun/transportation?

4/28/2010 8:44:57 AM

Should someone really be working as a flight attendent if they're so obviously sick?

4/28/2010 8:56:57 AM

They probably used all their sick days slackin' off.

[Edited on April 28, 2010 at 9:02 AM. Reason : .]

4/28/2010 9:00:10 AM

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"wat?"

He's saying you're a bitch and you lie about your profession and you're sick, so stop being a fucking liar bitch and quit your job as a flight attendant because you can't handle the truth, whore.

Kind of like how you believe flying hungover is great and how when people brag about it they're not actually bragging. You know, that kind of thing. It shows you're a bitch son, and a dumb bitch at that.

4/28/2010 9:02:36 AM

Go play with your toy knives you wannabe aviator little orphan Annie lookalike bitch.

4/28/2010 9:04:06 AM

Our flight attendent is coughing and hacking and snotting everywhere.

4/28/2010 9:04:10 AM

Why shouldn't I be incredibly afraid of mid-flight turbulence? (Because I am )

4/28/2010 9:04:38 AM

^ It's normal son, deal with it and grow a fucking pair of balls.

Air is like a fluid son, there are "rapids" son.


Looks like the bitch got angry that I answered a question in his bitch thread son. Wouldn't want to answer a question in the bitch man's thread son, if ya do you're trolling son.

4/28/2010 9:05:30 AM

If you have a phobia, I guess you will be afraid of it and anything I say probably isn't going to ease your mind.

But let's try.

While turbulence can cause structural failure of an airliner, it's not very likely. In most cases, structural failure during turbulence are caused by pilot error in which load factor was exceeded due to excessive maneuvering or loss of control. I can't think of an example in modern aviation history, at least dealing with transport category aircraft, where turbulence caused structural failure, so that may be a good sign for you (or just bad memory). While turbulence is often unpredictable, reports of turbulence are plentiful in the United States and we usually get a good heads up of what flight levels to avoid during said times. I'd be more worried about not having your seat belt fastened than about crashing to the ground. There have been many more serious injuries to flight attendants and unbuckled passengers caused by unexpected turbulence than fatal accidents.




^If you keep hanging out in my 'bitch' thread, doesn't that make you a bitch? Hmm.

4/28/2010 9:25:27 AM

IBTL

4/28/2010 9:25:34 AM

can you find me the Island?

[Edited on April 28, 2010 at 9:27 AM. Reason : the one lost in time]

4/28/2010 9:27:10 AM

I heard you can only get there if you crash.

4/28/2010 9:27:49 AM

There was mad turbulence when I had to take my first solo long distance cross country. I could barely read the sectional and the E-6B was sliding all over the damn place.

4/28/2010 9:28:46 AM

It makes me someone who laughs at bitches. I've donated to this thread son. I've given it the only cool it has son.

^ But were you hungover? Cause if not you're not very cool according to elbitch son. Just sayin'.

4/28/2010 9:29:11 AM

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"I heard you can only get there if you crash. "

OH SNAP!

btw i watched 5 seasons of Lost in last 2 months so yes that was the only question i could think of

4/28/2010 9:30:14 AM

Crashing isn't as big of a deal as people make it out to be son.

4/28/2010 9:32:22 AM