Excuse me??

And you're complaining because someone is cyber-bullying you, then earlier you were whining about how when people fly the flag they usually do something "within minutes," according to your earlier posts... Then you were complaining that no one explained your correlation, even though a few minutes later you admitted you saw they explained it.

I feel like this is a topic that will NEVER be resolved.

5/28/2009 10:54:45 AM

I never complained about anything, and I said it was a LAME ASS ATTEMPT at cyber-bullying.

Go learn to read and look up the meaning of "complain" you dumb bitch

And I didn't say nobody explained it, I said certain users didn't explain it, an STILL none of them have. Only 1 person explained it, and he wasn't in the group that I set the parameters for.

Go learn to read and look up the meaning of "whining" you dumb bitch



[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 11:02 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2009 10:58:41 AM

what's wrong with this little guy? he gets jealous is all...

5/28/2009 11:02:21 AM

So let me get this straight. If an southerner has pride in their heritage and region's history, which includes slavery, they are an ignorant, racist hick.

BUT

If a black American has pride in their African heritage it's cool, even though their own ancestors BOUGHT/SOLD/USED slaves too?

5/28/2009 11:03:32 AM

I can read just fine. You were dissatisfied that someone didn't explain your correlation.

com·plain
/k?m'ple?n/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhm-pleyn] Show IPA
–verb (used without object)
1. to express dissatisfaction, pain, uneasiness, censure, resentment, or grief; find fault: He complained constantly about the noise in the corridor.
2. to tell of one's pains, ailments, etc.: to complain of a backache.
3. to make a formal accusation: If you think you've been swindled, complain to the police.

Um, you didn't specify which users didn't ever answer you, just the ones who called you an angry black man or ignorant -- which honestly seems to be a lot of these people. You made a general statement. Regardless, you were still dissatisfied and therefore you made a complaint.

whine
Noun
1. a long high-pitched plaintive cry or moan
2. a peevish complaint

Note the second part.

Best think twice before you mess with this bitch, Mr. Angry Black Man.

Get over yourself.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 11:06 AM. Reason : stupid. argument.]

5/28/2009 11:03:48 AM

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"Interesting, you can't explain the correlation, so instead you just attack the person pointing out the correlation. Yet the correlation is still there... "

This is not whining, and yes, i set up the parameters very clearly. They problem is, you're a retard and you can't read.

Quote :

"So let me get this straight. If an southerner has pride in their heritage and region's history, which includes slavery, they are an ignorant, racist hick. BUT If a black American has pride in their African heritage it's cool, even though their own ancestors BOUGHT/SOLD/USED slaves too?"

Who ever said that? I think you're trying to put words into my, or someone's mouth. I never said if a southerner has pride in their heritage it makes tham an ignorant, racist hick. That's just what you wanted me to say.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 11:09 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2009 11:08:01 AM

it would be funny if a black guy picked up are girl and it turned out this was under the clothes

5/28/2009 11:08:14 AM

go on...

5/28/2009 11:08:44 AM

I can't agree with the higher moral ground argument. As has been stated on here numerous times the war involved many different issues other than slavery. in fact the emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in the south. this was complete political posturing as it removed a strong formidable force. The blacks in the south were no longer focused on fighting for the south as a means to gain their freedom since they had already been freed. this single act reduced the numbers of the potential armed forces of the south thus weakening their position. meanwhile the north was able to keep their slaves.

furthermore, the flag of the united states is also a flag of slavery as the entire nation took advantage of the benefits of slavery and the north continued the ability to do so following the war.

one can hardly say that the north was a side of "higher moral ground"

5/28/2009 11:10:21 AM

Quote :

"they can't explain the correlation I pointed out earlier"

Complaining. Then someone pointed out they explained it and you basically just tried blowing it off because you "didn't see it" or whatever. I can read just fine, THANKS.

From a third-party perspective, you are looking pretty silly.

5/28/2009 11:11:59 AM

^^agree

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM. Reason : ^^]

5/28/2009 11:12:49 AM

Quote :

"I can't agree with the higher moral ground argument. As has been stated on here numerous times the war involved many different issues other than slavery. in fact the emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in the south. this was complete political posturing as it removed a strong formidable force. The blacks in the south were no longer focused on fighting for the south as a means to gain their freedom since they had already been freed. this single act reduced the numbers of the potential armed forces of the south thus weakening their position. meanwhile the north was able to keep their slaves. furthermore, the flag of the united states is also a flag of slavery as the entire nation took advantage of the benefits of slavery and the north continued the ability to do so following the war. one can hardly say that the north was a side of "higher moral ground""

First of all, I never said the north was a side of "higher moral ground," you took that out of a hypothetical that I posted.

Second of all

Quote :

"America gets to change the essence of the meaning of the flag through Supreme Court cases like Brown V Board of Education. Can the confederacy do that??? No, they lost and the confederacy doesn't exist anymore. Same with Britain's flag, which is why I said it would make MORE sense to wave that one."

Quote :

"Complaining. Then someone pointed out they explained it and you basically just tried blowing it off because you "didn't see it" or whatever. I can read just fine, THANKS. From a third-party perspective, you are looking pretty silly."

You're not on my level, you can even comprehend my simple TWW posts. Seriously, where did "didn't see it" come? I told him he didn't apply because he wasn't one of the people who used specific words to attack me. Of course, you don't understand this, because you're a complete and utter retard.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2009 11:13:36 AM

Well, actually, they can. If more people were not afraid to fly the flag based on the potential misinterpretation of their beliefs then it could change. there are people who may wish to fly the flag out of southern heritage or pride who don't do so due to the immediate and unjustified judgments passed on people who do wave it.

If these people could wave it and use it in a manner that was not offensive to anyone then the connotation could feasibly change. however, these people are not afforded the opportunity.

5/28/2009 11:17:07 AM

Quote :

"I told him he didn't apply because he wasn't one of the people who used specific words to attack me. Of course, you don't understand this"

You're right, I don't understand how you are saying he doesn't apply even though he answered your question. Why complain about someone not answering it when someone else gives you the answer, regardless of whether that person wasn't involved?

Ps, it seems that I have touched one of your nerves, due to all the retard comments. Silly. Goose.

5/28/2009 11:24:09 AM

Mr. Wyland: Well I certainly would like to thank all the parents for their support of our debate club. I r-realize that many of you are torn by the issues as well, so, perhaps the children can shed some light on us. We'll start with Wendy Testaburger on the "Flag Should Be Changed" team.
.....
Wendy: Yes. Now, the main point we would like to make is oftentimes it is prudent to change history. As times change we hope to grow, and as we grow our rules must change. It is a natural part of evolution. Thank you.
Mr. Wyland: Okay, and Kyle and Stan's team, your main point?
Kyle: Our main point is that the flag shouldn't offend anyone, because killing has been around since the bieginning of time. All animals kill. And the animals that don't kill are stupid ones, like cows and turtles and stuff. So people should not be so upset about killing.
Chef: Whoa whoa whooaa! You just missed the point entirely!
Kyle: Huh?
Chef: I'm not mad because the flag shows somebody gettin' killed, It's because it's racist!
Kyle's Team: Racist??
Chef: Children, don't you even know what this argument is about?! That flag is racist because a black man is being hung by white people.
Kyle's Team: Ooooooohhh.
Chef: Ooooooohhh?!
Kyle: W-we really didn't see it that way.
Chef: But that's a black man up there!
Kyle: Y-yeah, but... the color of someone's skin doesn't matter.
Chef: Well of course it matters when- ...Oh my God. Wait a minute. You children didn't even see the flag as a black man being hanged by white people, did you?
Kyle's Team: No.
Chef: Why, that is- that is the most beautiful thing I have ever heard.
Mayor: What?
Mr. Wyland: What?
Chef: Don't you see? All this time I thought these little crackers had turned racist, when actually they were so not racist that they didn't even make a separation of black and white to begin with. All they saw when they looked at that flag was five people.
A Few People: Awww.
Some KKK members: Awww.
Kyle: Yeah.
Chef: I'm sorry, children. I was wrong about you. But I still the flag needs to be changed. But now I realize that I almost let racism turn me into a racist.
Jimbo: Yeah. You know, uh I suddenly found myself on the side of Klan menbers. I've never had anything against blacks, Chef.
Chef: Oh, I know you don't, Jimbo. I've known you for almost ten years. You're a good man.
Jimbo: We've been way too divisive over this, Chef. Maybe we can come up with a- compromise flag--something that everybody can be happy with.
Chef: I think that's a much better start than me tryin' to separate myself from all you wonderful crackers.
Audience Members: Ooh, huhuh. Oooh
Kyle: Oh. Sweet, dude. I don't think we have to do this stupid debate now. Stan?
Mayor: This has been an interesting week in South Park. We've all done a lot of growing this week. Everyone was afraid to take a stand on this issue. But now we have learned once again that black, white, yellow, brown, or whatever, we are all just people. And so, I am very excited to unveil our new South Park Flag!
Stan: Wait, I don't get it.
Kyle: No, see? There's people of all colors. And they added a black guy as one of the hangers, too, so it's not racist.
Chef: Hooray!
Jimbo: I have to admit it, that is a lot nicer.
Wendy: Phew. I'm sure glad that's over with.
Cartman: Me, too.



[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 11:26 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2009 11:24:56 AM

^ hahaha

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 11:27 AM. Reason : lunch time, have fun arguing everyone ]

5/28/2009 11:26:01 AM

I think I made many valid points here, and never did I say that everyone who wears the flag is dumb or racist, and I actually said I like the flag's use on private property or persons.

My opinion is that, to show southern heritage, it's a valid symbol for some, but the smarter southerners wouldn't go to such lengths to show their southern heritage, because of the awful stigma attached to it.

Also, like I said, the US flag may at one time been a symbol for similar things, but the US remained a country, transformed, Brown v Board happened, the Civil Rights act happened, 15th and 19th amendment suffrage happened, and the kernel of the US flag symbol changed along with the country. This is something that just can't happen with the confederate flag because the confederacy no longer exists.

I'm being outnumbered greatly here, as I am on a North Carolina message board, this makes sense. So I'm done, and going to get to work. You guys can refer to my earlier posts if you want any clarification on anything!

^^ haha

Samwise - bitch, you're just dumb.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2009 11:32:01 AM

the meanings behind symbols can change over time even if the originator of the symbol is dead or no longer exists, other than that you're argument is good.

but whatever. symbols lose meaning when folks stop knee-jerk reacting to them...

5/28/2009 12:11:18 PM

Quote :

"Samwise - bitch, you're just dumb."

No I'm just a bitch towards dumb people. Get it right. You're just getting upset that there's yet another person who doesn't side with you... Maybe you should think about getting some anger management?

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 12:14 PM. Reason : .]

5/28/2009 12:14:29 PM

Don't mind Terpball, he's just been victimized by the white man for centuries now.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 12:24 PM. Reason : ]

5/28/2009 12:24:15 PM

^ Damn... Guess he doesn't like me/thinks I'm retarded because I'm a cracker Oh woe is me.

5/28/2009 12:27:10 PM

Quote :

"the meanings behind symbols can change over time even if the originator of the symbol is dead or no longer exists, other than that you're argument is good."

Okay, but you must agree that is meaning can't change the way the American flag's (and British flag) meaning changed... which is what I literally meant in context.


^^^ Just because I'm calling you out for being a dumb bitch doesn't mean I'm angry. It means I'm observant. I'm not angry at anyone.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 12:41 PM. Reason : ]

5/28/2009 12:39:24 PM

^ Calling me a dumb bitch =/= calling me out.

But whatever you say, angry black man.

5/28/2009 12:43:40 PM

I think it's silly that there isn't a better symbol of "southern pride" than the flag that flew over a lost war.

But that's just me.

5/28/2009 12:43:57 PM

I always thought it was funny when people need to put words in your mouth in order to argue with you. It's like, they want to oppose you SO GODDAMN BAD, but they don't actually think what you're saying is false....so they have to make stuff up and argue with that.

It's even funnier when this happens on TWW, where one can always go back a few pages to see what has been said.

5/28/2009 12:51:32 PM

Sounds like the NAACP is scraping the bottom of the barrel to stay in the headlines.

5/28/2009 12:55:17 PM

^^ Yeah, I was going to point that out to samwise - but she's so off base I decided she wasn't worth the time and/or effort, so I just called her out for being a dumb bitch.

^ agreed - they should try doing something that may actually "advance" their people as their acronym describes... like maybe... work on the huge AIDS epidemic here in DC? But no, they'd bitching about a fucking flag at fucking NASCAR RACES.

5/28/2009 1:05:45 PM

^ Again... calling someone a dumb bitch =/= calling out someone. K?

It's funny you still haven't caught on.

5/28/2009 1:08:16 PM

^^ Or come here to A&T and give us more lab supplies. That's advancement in technology, science, and education.

5/28/2009 1:10:13 PM

^^ I called you out because you have displayed a lack of basic logical and... bitch, you can't read. You're being called out. You're a fucking idiot.

^ Yeah, they're like jesse jackson during the obama campaign - doing more harm than good, and need to be replaced with a modern group that actually has a place in today's society. There's been a little paradigm shift that they are obviously unaware of.

5/28/2009 1:20:31 PM

didn't read the whole thread.

I have been going to races for years, and I think it's safe to say NASCAR as an organization will lose next to nothing as a result of this boycott. If anything, this will do nothing but generate bad press for the NAACP chapter doing all the bitching.

I would liken this to me, a southern born and raised male, saying that I am going to boycott a rap concert because the rapper says something derogatory towards white people. No one will care.

5/28/2009 1:22:38 PM

^2 Sorry, but no... You've been a whiney/complaining little bitch and I commented. That doesn't so illogical to me. Furthermore, if I'm not worth your time why did you even respond in the first place/keep responding? And why are you so angry?

5/28/2009 1:29:49 PM

Good lord

Quote :

"That doesn't so illogical to me."

I meant the time and effort to go back and quote enough to compare texts and point out your logical fallacies. EMCE was right though, people can just look back and see the level of your retard.

word of advice - shut the fuck up

And I've said it before, I'm not angry... oh yeah, we're talking about a retard's reading comprehension... never mind, carry on.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 1:45 PM. Reason : ]

5/28/2009 1:44:33 PM

Quote :

"Okay, but you must agree that is meaning can't change the way the American flag's (and British flag) meaning changed... which is what I literally meant in context."

true enough.

5/28/2009 1:45:57 PM

why does it have to be about race?

5/28/2009 1:47:05 PM

Because everything is about race to terpball. If he stubs his toe, there's a honkey responsible for it somewhere.

5/28/2009 1:49:24 PM

5/28/2009 1:52:24 PM

Quote :

"Because everything is about race to terpball. If he stubs his toe, there's a honkey responsible for it somewhere."

You wanting to believe this so bad says a lot about your own insecurities.

5/28/2009 1:54:37 PM

Sorry I made you stub your toe.

5/28/2009 1:56:19 PM

Quote :

"your own insecurities"

are you admitting that you have some with white people?

5/28/2009 1:56:21 PM

no, the "own" in there was just me being repetitive. "own" isn't ever needed after the word "your."

But if it makes you feel any better, I wish the NAACP would shut the fuck up in this case

5/28/2009 1:59:07 PM

terpball

as for you being angry and black, i don't think its the case. i think its more of an issue that you point out a lot of the race related issues that are in the background of an issue, which is a good thing and a side worthy of nothing. however, i feel that on occasion you aim so desperately to prove your point that the issue becomes exaggerated and turned into an argument of racism vs. not racism and acts of oppression.

i'm not saying you turn it into that conversation all on your own (hell you're even baited a lot of the time) but i think that is why people have the mentioned impression.

Quote :

"It's even funnier when this happens on TWW, where one can always go back a few pages to see what has been said."

i agree with this sentiment. however, i think for a few of the points in this thread terpball was vague in some of his comments which led to some ambiguity in what he aimed to convey. so some things that people claimed he said were actual reasonable interpretations of what was typed and not a fabrication or words being put into his mouth.

5/28/2009 1:59:52 PM

that was serious cat

5/28/2009 2:05:57 PM

Quote :

"And I've said it before, I'm not angry... oh yeah, we're talking about a retard's reading comprehension... never mind, carry on."

You sure do act like it. And, in all honesty, my reading comprehension is just fine. But just like IRSerious said ^2 , you were vague. And you were complaining. And it's fun to say little things that make you get in a tizzy.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 2:07 PM. Reason : Anyways, you're boring me now.]

5/28/2009 2:07:01 PM

Things the South contributed to the building of this nation:

-cotton
-some other agricultural products
-slaves
-...
-Coca-Cola I guess?

5/28/2009 2:10:04 PM

^ Fried chicken

5/28/2009 2:11:16 PM

KFC is from a state that never flew that flag

I'll add Pepsi too to be fair

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 2:13 PM. Reason : .]

5/28/2009 2:12:22 PM

dont forget that the south contributed all of the rednecks too.

without which there would be no camo wedding dresses

5/28/2009 2:14:26 PM

Oh I wasn't talking about KFC, I just meant it's origin in the US as a food item.

5/28/2009 2:14:55 PM

the south most certainly did not produce ALL the rednecks

5/28/2009 2:16:05 PM