Quote :

"Sounds familiar..."

Not really, obviously you're one of those people that try to compare every coaching change to ours regardless of how similar they actually are.

3/31/2010 8:03:46 PM

Coach K is leaving

http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow/report-nets-to-make-krzyzewski-rich-offer

/notreally

4/5/2010 9:45:07 AM

Purnell to DePaul

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kaplan-chicago-sports/2010/04/breaking-news-depaul-has-candidate-on-campus.html

4/6/2010 5:16:07 AM

That's surprising, a move from a mid-upper ACC program to the gutter of the Big East, and he is an ODU alum with all of his ties to the East Coast other than Dayton. They are paying him over $2 million a year though, which appears to double what Clemson is paying him. He has a buyout that grows by $250K per year over his contract apparently.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4263266


Also, BC has been rejected by 2 A-10 coaches: Mooney (Richmond) and Gregory (Dayton). Now it looks like they will turn to Donahue at Cornell or former Skinner assistants at Northeastern and Fairfield...

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 5:32 AM. Reason : .]

4/6/2010 5:29:54 AM

BC was wrong to fire Skinner IMO. I don't think he's a bad coach.

Clemson shouldn't try to match OP's offer and maybe should take a look at Greg Marshall. Clemson would be a good jump for his career, but I'm not completely sure he's the right man for the job yet.

4/6/2010 7:59:55 AM

will clemson be chastised for letting purnell go? This has to be done to be fair to Herb.

4/6/2010 8:04:53 AM

^
The Clemson fans should be ashamed for running off Oliver Purnell [not doubling his salary]. All he did was take them to the postseason every year.

^^
BC is naive to think that their Athletic Director can have poor relationship with every coach, fire and slander them when looking at other opportunities, and not have an effect on the ability to recruit coaches to BC. Their President should have cracked down on these shenanigans, at the very least after the Jagz situation.

Now the delusional BC fans/Boston market think they can land Brad Stevens (hey, they thought Bruce Pearl was a realistic possibility), even though they have already been turned down by coaches at Dayton and Richmond. Stevens knows he can land a better job if he wants one.

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 9:28 AM. Reason : .]

4/6/2010 9:22:12 AM

Quote :

"Clemson, meanwhile, is consistently one of the best and rowdiest home courts in the ACC. "

heh

yeah i'd say they're probably among the top 12 rowdiest arenas in the acc

4/6/2010 12:32:33 PM

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/basketball/view/20100406boston_college_tabs_steve_donahue_as_next_basketball_coach/

4/6/2010 12:52:10 PM

Donahue badly needs a lead recruiter, since he basically didn't do that at Cornell.

4/6/2010 1:07:59 PM

this could be a great offseason for the ACC

clemson and their choking possibly tanking as a program along with bc and their 6 fans becoming alsorans would really help the conference's perception if the mid tier teams can beat up on them every year a la the big east

4/6/2010 1:13:06 PM

I guess Donahue was the best BC was going to get at this point (LOL at them for thinking they had a chance in hell with Bruce Pearl). Purnell leaving is a shocker, he probably just wanted a change of scenery and the money was right so he left...Chicago is like 1000x more awesome than Clemson. Also it looks like Oregon is going with Dayton's Brian Gregory...decent hire but far from a home run.

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 1:34 PM. Reason : . ]

4/6/2010 1:31:10 PM

Oregon could have done much better than that.

Clemson probably ends up with Marshall IMO, but I wouldn't be surprised if they made a run at Skinner for the lulz

4/6/2010 1:38:36 PM

Quote :

"Oregon could have done much better than that."

pretty much, they should have waited and talked to Stevens.

just for fun:
http://acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/13533/n-c-state-should-hire-brad-stevens-now/?tc=ar

4/6/2010 1:41:18 PM

i'm shocked they didn't try to talk to stevens. although they could've, as far as i know.

4/6/2010 2:54:47 PM

If I were an Oregon fan I'd be questioning the amount of money they threw at Mark Few

4/6/2010 2:57:08 PM

if clemson hires a white guy

the white/black ratio for ACC coaches will have gone from 1:1 to 2:1 lol

4/6/2010 4:23:49 PM

Yeah but we only fired 1 black, so we're not THAT racist.

4/6/2010 4:31:40 PM

and even that firing was by BC's AD

4/6/2010 4:34:50 PM

Maybe it's just the orange, but this seems like what Jaybee would have been like when he was younger and shaven. Dude admits to being drugged up in the video (b/c of having his wisdom teeth taken out).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PebdY33nAY

LOL at Clemson fans thinking they could get Brad Stevens. That guy is staying at Butler until the first big time school comes around, and he certainly isn't leaving this year considering what he'll be returning next season. Clemson fans shouldn't be mad at Purnell for taking more money, they should be mad at their AD for not trying to keep around the best thing to happen to their program in a long time.

4/6/2010 8:06:11 PM

great get for BC.

as for clemson, i think they lost a pretty good coach. yeah, he lost a lot in the opening rounds of the tourney and yes big games weren't his forte, but he made significant strides with the program. although i can understand the stagnant feel fans get with some coaches. i wonder who clemson will go after?

4/6/2010 8:17:44 PM

meh, the ACC is a totally different beast than the Ivy League. there have been plenty of mid-major coaches (Cornell isn't even mid-major), that have had the perfect combination of experienced upperclassmen make them look good and make a run in the tournament or shock heavy favorite, get hired by a power conference school, and then proceed to suck it up and get fired.

Donahue might be good at BC, but I wouldn't call it a great hire when a couple of other coaches at higher level conferences turned them down.

4/6/2010 8:29:04 PM

Quote :

"meh, the ACC is a totally different beast than the Ivy League. there have been plenty of mid-major coaches (Cornell isn't even mid-major), that have had the perfect combination of experienced upperclassmen make them look good and make a run in the tournament or shock heavy favorite, get hired by a power conference school, and then proceed to suck it up and get fired. "

Exactly, dude is barely over .500 overall and didn't have a winning season at Cornell until his 7th year. However, he was certainly the better option compared to the two former Skinner assistants they also interviewed.

4/6/2010 8:43:00 PM

but I think getting a "hot" coach is good for the program whether he works out well or not. it gives the them some hype and makes it attractive to potential players.

4/6/2010 8:49:59 PM

Iowa thought they were getting a "hot" coach when they hired Lickliter, same goes for Minnesota when they hired Munson. Programs don't need hot coaches, they need good coaches that can also recruit. I don't think the Cornell guy has the recruiting prowess to succeed in a Power 6 conference initially. He'll need to hire a savvy assistant that can recruit the AAU circuit for him.

4/7/2010 12:38:50 AM

Gaudio fired http://www.wxii12.com/sports/23080340/detail.html

^also i wish people would stop talking about todd lickliter. go look up his career at butler, then compare it to the guys before him and the guy after him

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 3:11 PM. Reason : after reading that post, nvm. the cornell coach is a good comparison to lickliter]

4/7/2010 3:09:27 PM

Wow...Didn't think he'd be gone this quickly.

Wellman has a hair trigger.

4/7/2010 3:12:49 PM

^^that is crazy, I wonder why they waited so long...seems like it puts them in a shitty position as far as snagging a good coach. Maybe we can snag Melvin Tabb now.

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 3:13 PM. Reason : .]

4/7/2010 3:13:26 PM

also once leslie commits to kentucky it would be nice if we could steal some of these commits who no longer have a coach (provided their AD pulls a Fowler and lets them out of their LOI, of course), or get a guy like mike rosario who is transferring out of rutgers

4/7/2010 3:19:48 PM

Wow

Wake had a top 10 recruiting class coming in too

4/7/2010 3:23:43 PM

^^ i thought if the coach got bounced, the LOI is not binding?

4/7/2010 3:25:54 PM

I figured WF would give Dino next year and watch him dig his own grave without Smith and Aminu to hide his lack of coaching ability. Oh well, Lowe is moving up the ACC coaching seniority list.

4/7/2010 3:26:58 PM

Quote :

"(provided their AD pulls a Fowler and lets them out of their LOI, of course), "

I'm normally the last one to defend Fowler, but pretty much every AD will let a kid out of his LOI if there is a coaching change...it's standard practice and the school ends up looking like assholes if they don't.

4/7/2010 3:27:29 PM

Wow ... Ron Wellman doesn't play

4/7/2010 3:28:04 PM

Let me word that better...provided their AD conducts a ridiculously long coaching search, has little contact with the recruits during it and lets them out of their LOI

A lot of schools don't lose all their recruits immediately. Look at Virginia and Bennett last year. Both Evans and Spurlock stayed on. Now, Spurlock is transferring because he didn't click with Bennett, but UVa at least had a chance with him.

4/7/2010 3:39:19 PM

Quote :

"Oh well, Lowe is moving up the ACC coaching seniority list."

he was already ahead of Gaudio

4/7/2010 3:40:43 PM

^^^^Yeah, the standard action is the AD holds them to the LOI until the new coach is hired, so he gets a chance to convince/recruit them to stay, and then let the kid out if they still want to leave.

^^Horner, Werner, and what's-his-face were kept until after Lowe was hired.

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 3:43 PM. Reason : []

4/7/2010 3:41:37 PM

Yea, but Lowe couldn't talk to them because he had to get a degree and Fowler didn't help any. At least from the story I've been told, most of them split because they were hung out to dry. Chris Wright is another story with his dad and all that, but the Horner class was bungled, one way or another.

I guess in the long run it didn't matter a whole lot as none of those guys were world beaters, but it sure would've helped the depth issues we had the first couple years

4/7/2010 3:48:35 PM

There is usually a provision that if they are released they cannot go to another ACC team without sitting out a year

4/7/2010 3:53:31 PM

Naw, Lowe could talk to the guys that had signed their LOI on campus. And anyone could call him up and talk to him anytime.

He just couldn't go out and recruit until after the test.

4/7/2010 3:54:34 PM

Word is Gaudio wasn't the cleanest recruiter

4/7/2010 4:42:27 PM

ATTN Lee Fowler, take notes...

Quote :

"Wellman said the search for Gaudio's replacement would begin immediately, and that he has kept a wish list of candidates because "you don't want to be caught unaware or off-guard or unprepared for something like this.""

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5064441



And...

This was my immediate thought when I saw they canned Gaudio.

http://bustersports.com/blog/buster-blog/2010/04/07/is-wake-forest-targeting-butlers-brad-stevens/

For them to make this move so late in the game and with the recruiting class they have is just crazy.

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 10:34 PM. Reason : .]

4/7/2010 10:19:05 PM

I'm starting to wonder if Rick Barnes' seat is getting hot. He doesn't have a whole lot to show for his time at Texas, and this year's early exit to Wake Forest is kind of questionable considering the extreme talent his team has.

4/7/2010 11:20:20 PM

yeah, but Texas isn't a basketball school so the expectations aren't very high...unless he starts missing the tournament he's not in any danger.

4/7/2010 11:22:09 PM

I don't know. My roommate is from Texas and word around the state is that Rick Barnes' big nose dive at the end of the year and lack of past success despite ridiculous talent, has put him on a significant hot seat for next year. The fans and alums are not happy that they had a team reach the #1 ranking at one point in the season and finish the way that they did. If he doesn't deliver next year it is quite likely that he'd be fired. Yeah he's at a football school, but Texas is paying him a lot of money and have begun to emphasize basketball more over the past few years. Avery Bradley is a fringe 1st round draft pick this year and might come back. Jordan Hamilton won't be coming out this year. That's two 5* rated players coming back. Couple that with 5* PF Tristan Thompson coming in next year, and the pressure to succeed will be on.

4/8/2010 1:33:29 AM

We'll see but they would be fucking stupid to fire him...they aren't going to do better no matter how outsized their expectations are. Last I checked the only Final Fours they made besides his were in the 1940's.

4/8/2010 1:50:38 AM

He gets paid an assload of money, football school or not.

They could hire anyone to not deliver and probably pay them less.

4/8/2010 2:03:37 AM

I forgot that 2 Sweet Sixteens, 2 Elite Eights and a Final Four was "not delivering"

4/8/2010 2:51:03 AM

Never won the big 12 tournament

Not saying he should be fired, but I don't think he's produced to his pay grade.

4/8/2010 10:24:18 AM

I could see Brian Gregory or Brad Brownell getting interest from Wake. Wellman has made his last couple major sports hires (other than the unique Gaudio situation) from Ohio.

4/8/2010 11:41:17 AM