aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
that eric, always tryna give his wood to ladies 12/29/2011 9:00:22 AM |
CaelNCSU All American 7080 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Shussssh, don't let any environmentalists see this thread, since wood as an energy source is less efficient and doesn't burn as clean as coal, oil or gas" |
Trees are neutral I always thought. Trees take CO2 out of the air and burning puts it back.12/29/2011 11:01:31 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In my experience newer houses (unless you have a lot of loot to spend) are made of a pretty shitty quality." |
Truth.12/29/2011 11:03:29 AM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no, for real. its cold outside. 1/3/2012 11:09:24 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
I heat with SLI... better than wood because I'm advancing science! 1/3/2012 11:10:35 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I just got a big load of wood (no homo?) from my father in laws house last night, looking forward to burning some when I get home from work today. Too bad its just in a regular "insert" fireplace and not a house-heating stove 1/3/2012 11:11:16 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Shussssh, don't let any environmentalists see this thread, since wood as an energy source is less efficient and doesn't burn as clean as coal, oil or gas" |
no educated environmentalist would think this...i suppose that's your point, but i take offense the idea that there are NO educated environmentalists
Quote : | "Trees are neutral I always thought. Trees take CO2 out of the air and burning puts it back." |
not true...
...at least in the neutrality part, and it's dependent on the tree...but growing trees have the potential to more than offset carbon dioxide production, in some cases taking up more than they'd output by burning
also, wood pellet biofuel is comparatively efficient (more so than just logs, even given the processing)1/3/2012 11:31:48 AM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I just got a big load of wood (no homo?) from my father in laws house last night, looking forward to burning some when I get home from work today. Too bad its just in a regular "insert" fireplace and not a house-heating stove
" |
I can't even remember what it is like using a regular fireplace anymore, can you adjust the incoming airflow at all with the doors shut?1/3/2012 1:11:12 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
We ran out of wood last night. Knew we should have gotten more earlier this year. Time to check out Craigslist I guess. 1/3/2012 1:15:03 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yeah. My stove has "boobies" on the front that you can open and close to allow in more air. More air = hotter fire. Less air = not as hot but burns much longer. 1/4/2012 12:17:05 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
^^piece of advice, do NOT buy one of those $5 bundles of wood from your local grocery store. I bought a bundle in a pinch and the wood reaked and was waterlogged. I had to babysit a smoking, boring little fire all night
also, my little insert fireplace doesnt have doors, just a chain screen. That thing gets HOT as shit though, I wish it was equipped with a blower 1/4/2012 12:29:24 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, if I leave the doors open on mine I can get the house up over 100 degrees. Typically once I get it burning good I close up the boobies completely. It will maintain a solid 75 degrees in the house all night long. 1/4/2012 12:38:40 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
^^haha i've bought those bundles a few times and haven't had that bad of luck with them. But they were stored inside the store I bought them. I built a small fire last night with some and had a bear of a time getting it started but it burned fine once it did.
home chopped firewood is the way to go though.
and i too, have a traditional insert fireplace and not a stove. doesn't heat quite as much as I would like. 1/4/2012 12:49:20 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "piece of advice, do NOT buy one of those $5 bundles of wood from your local grocery store." |
Yeah made that mistake last year. Won't be doing it again.
Has anyone installed a reflective heat plate in their fireplace? I'm thinking about getting a cast iron one.1/4/2012 1:47:23 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
no, but i've been looking into it as an option. do you think Cast Iron or Steel would be better? 1/4/2012 1:59:29 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
^ depends on your setup. Being that you have an insert then steel should be fine (and cheaper). If you had a stove I would say cast iron.
Our stove has a pretty nifty adjustable one built in. We hardly ever use it though because it gets way too fucking hot in here if we do
[Edited on January 4, 2012 at 3:44 PM. Reason : a] 1/4/2012 3:40:51 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Mine draws so well that if I leave the doors open I would have to sit there all night and shovel wood into it to keep it burning. Like a locomotive. I am 4-5 days into another constant burn again after a big clean out (8 gallons of ashes) and currently burning 18-22 pieces of wood every 24 hours or so. Next week ill be able to cut back some and probably burn a little more than half that much daily.
Sometimes I think of it less as a fireplace and more of a cremation oven. Occasionally we get out the marshmallows and roast them, that is, when we can stand to be in the room for more than a couple minutes at a time. All that stone work on the wall there constantly stays about 80 degrees when I have the fire rolling. The backside of the chimney is in my garage and it even stays warm to the touch. My garage is insulated and retains the heat quite well, BONUS HEAT
[Edited on January 5, 2012 at 10:41 AM. Reason : BONUS] 1/5/2012 10:32:55 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no, but i've been looking into it as an option. do you think Cast Iron or Steel would be better?" |
I've been doing a lot of reading on them and most people seem to feel the cast iron is better. But the steel is much much cheaper. Only thing I've really seem people say about the steel is that sometimes it warps, which I'm sure has to do with the quality of the product (are they using shitty grade steel or something). So I don't know. I keep going back and forth on what I want to do. If I ever end up buying one I'll let you know what I choose lol.1/5/2012 12:59:42 PM |
NCJockGirl All American 8886 Posts user info edit post |
Considering this with an insert. Need to get a lot of info though. how messy,cost effective,things like that. If anyone thinks they have experience.with setting something.up to help me please pm me. 1/5/2012 9:06:03 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Oh its fucking messy, no doubt about it. 1/6/2012 10:24:25 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
Its nothing a shop vac and a broom once a week won't handle 1/6/2012 10:58:45 AM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Right on, if you aren't into cleaning up regularly and dusting your home then burning wood isn't for you. It is like owning a dog. You have to feed it, check on it every few hours, and clean up after it.
[Edited on January 9, 2012 at 7:59 AM. Reason : b] 1/9/2012 7:57:53 AM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
today is a perfect day for a fire
1/9/2012 12:56:13 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Had my first fire of the season last night. It definitely made me appreciate the importance of seasoned wood. I didn't even need any kindling to get it started. 10/31/2012 3:10:08 PM |
MinkaGrl01
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all the downed branches make me think "oooooo kindling, maybe I should gather that up for later" 10/31/2012 3:21:29 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
^ yes you definitely should, and put them in a nice dry place. 10/31/2012 3:27:13 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
On a related note, bought a fire pit for the deck last weekend:
10/31/2012 3:41:52 PM |
Roflpack All American 1966 Posts user info edit post |
What is the trick to controlling those wood stoves? Like how to not get it 90 degrees in your house 10/31/2012 7:48:23 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
they have dampers to control the air flow to the fire
[Edited on October 31, 2012 at 7:50 PM. Reason : nice ones have fans. really nice ones have fans w/ a thermostat] 10/31/2012 7:49:09 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Have a fire going right now 10/31/2012 7:54:13 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Who's got the cheap wood? 11/1/2012 5:36:17 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
I, too, would like a cheap cord of wood. 11/2/2012 9:55:56 AM |
MinkaGrl01
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Quote : | "yes you definitely should, and put them in a nice dry place." |
I now have a trunk full of kindling I pulled over on the way to work and stocked up some more11/2/2012 10:01:47 AM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
Is it possible to burn pallet wood? 11/4/2012 5:23:08 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
yes, oak pallets are fine for the heater. pine isn't good heater wood.
[Edited on November 4, 2012 at 5:45 PM. Reason : just be mindful of where you put your ashes (nails)] 11/4/2012 5:45:12 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
some pallets are treated... don't want to burn that. 11/4/2012 5:47:01 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
some most pallets are treated... don't want to burn that.
They put all sort of chemicals in pallets to keep them from rotting. At my dad's warehouse they basically treat them like hazardous waste when they break
11/5/2012 9:36:01 AM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
We burn pallets when we have bonfires, but I don't think it would be a good idea to burn pallet wood indoors. 11/5/2012 10:15:28 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
why not? 11/5/2012 10:16:16 AM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
for the reasons stated above 11/5/2012 10:17:34 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i used to get plenty of pallets from work that were untreated rough-cut oak. they didn't have any paint or anything on them. they were fine for the heater. they were mostly custom size pallets and crates for equipment, not the stuff you find behind a grocery store. use your head and there's nothing wrong with burning pallets in your heater.
if you've got fumes entering your house from your heater, you have a problem anyway. 11/5/2012 10:27:12 AM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
WHO'S GOT WOOD 11/6/2012 11:26:15 AM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Bttt 11/7/2012 10:06:13 AM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
I'll use the pallets outdoors 11/7/2012 1:17:15 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-fireplace-delusion
Quote : | "Here is what we know from a scientific point of view: There is no amount of wood smoke that is good to breathe. It is at least as bad for you as cigarette smoke, and probably much worse. (One study found it to be 30 times more potent a carcinogen.) The smoke from an ordinary wood fire contains hundreds of compounds known to be carcinogenic, mutagenic, teratogenic, and irritating to the respiratory system. Most of the particles generated by burning wood are smaller than one micron—a size believed to be most damaging to our lungs. In fact, these particles are so fine that they can evade our mucociliary defenses and travel directly into the bloodstream, posing a risk to the heart. Particles this size also resist gravitational settling, remaining airborne for weeks at a time.
Once they have exited your chimney, the toxic gases (e.g. benzene) and particles that make up smoke freely pass back into your home and into the homes of others. (Research shows that nearly 70 percent of chimney smoke reenters nearby buildings.) Children who live in homes with active fireplaces or woodstoves, or in areas where wood burning is common, suffer a higher incidence of asthma, cough, bronchitis, nocturnal awakening, and compromised lung function. Among adults, wood burning is associated with more-frequent emergency room visits and hospital admissions for respiratory illness, along with increased mortality from heart attacks. The inhalation of wood smoke, even at relatively low levels, alters pulmonary immune function, leading to a greater susceptibility to colds, flus, and other respiratory infections. All these effects are borne disproportionately by children and the elderly.
The unhappy truth about burning wood has been scientifically established to a moral certainty: That nice, cozy fire in your fireplace is bad for you. It is bad for your children. It is bad for your neighbors and their children. Burning wood is also completely unnecessary, because in the developed world we invariably have better and cleaner alternatives for heating our homes. If you are burning wood in the United States, Europe, Australia, or any other developed nation, you are most likely doing so recreationally—and the persistence of this habit is a major source of air pollution in cities throughout the world. In fact, wood smoke often contributes more harmful particulates to urban air than any other source. " |
11/7/2012 2:21:00 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
^ I suppose we should all get rid of our cars, too 11/7/2012 2:28:34 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, because cars are completely unnecessary, like burning wood. 11/7/2012 2:31:14 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
well if there were a simple less-risky alternative to cars that most people already had, then yeah you should
(but since there's not, your analogy doesn't work) 11/7/2012 2:32:00 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
if you heat with wood, you're definitely going to die 11/7/2012 2:33:03 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
You're right, we should just use more electricity to heat our homes. That would be much better for the environment. 11/7/2012 2:34:04 PM |