^ OK that post deserves some kind of TWW award

too bad it was the last of the page

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 5:37 PM. Reason : first!!]

11/15/2010 5:36:52 PM

Quote :

"Condoms and Facials both decrease the likelihood of contraception, but neither guarantee it"

what?

11/15/2010 5:40:25 PM

My buddy got strip searched at the Cancun Airport when we were on our way back from Spring Break because they found a pocket knife in his carry on bag. The very same pocket knife in the very same bag that he had no issues getting through RDU security. This was pre-9/11 though. I just always found it funny.

11/15/2010 5:44:01 PM

i guess theres a difference to it being accesible during the flight and not.

i dono


nowadays you cant bring shit though, i wish theyd just find what they find look at the shit and so "o its a fuckin bottle of lotion"

i cant stand having to buy new deodorants


[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 5:46 PM. Reason : d]

11/15/2010 5:44:55 PM

It was one of those small keychain knives, and he had it on the zipper of his carry on bag. It was there when he went through RDU security on the way to Cancun as well and they didn't catch it

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 5:46 PM. Reason : a]

11/15/2010 5:46:05 PM

o gotcha

i thought you meant in his stowed luggage

11/15/2010 5:46:40 PM

We actually got really worried because it was like 10 minutes before boarding and they weren't done with him yet. We thought they were going to keep him in Cancun.

11/15/2010 5:47:33 PM

I've been through a few scanners. The last time I went through one I forgot I left my license in my back jean pocket and the person running the scanner freaked out on me and started yelling "what is in your back pocket?!?!"

11/15/2010 5:59:50 PM

those "distorted" images become a lot less distorted if they look at the negative instead

also, once you begin screening, you're forbidden from stopping. you can expect a lawsuit from the govt if you try to leave and go home

11/15/2010 6:21:33 PM

they go to all those lengths to make sure i can't legally show my junk in public... now i get that chance and people tryin to take it away from me!

11/15/2010 8:07:21 PM

^^ actually, thats a fake


But the old change it to BW and mess with the contrast thing should still work

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 8:14 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2010 8:08:49 PM

I want these machines as x-ray glasses. Also, I want a fluffer before I walk through the machine for I am a grow-er, not a show-er.

11/15/2010 8:15:53 PM

oh, it's real alright!

that's why i ordered:

11/15/2010 8:44:10 PM

I fly almost once a week and I cannot stand the TSA. Half of them take their job way too seriously (see Manchester airport) and half of them do not know what the hell they are doing. My buddy sent his bag through one time and the RDU TSA person didn't even glance at the screen because she was talking personal matters with another employee.

The new body scanners suck and take entirely too long. I don't care if they look at my weiner, they just need to hurry their act up.

11/15/2010 8:52:44 PM

the part that I'm most upset about is that the "public outcry" won't change anything. people will lose interest and get used to it, and in a year we'll all be showing TSA our junk without a second thought.

11/15/2010 9:37:38 PM

Quote :

"the part that I'm most upset about is that the "public outcry" won't change anything. people will lose interest and get used to it, and in a year we'll all be showing TSA our junk without a second thought. "

the people in charge literally give no fucks what we think about most things

the voting public is completely marginalized in our system and it's pretty fucking LOL sometimes to think about

11/15/2010 9:42:02 PM

My wife went through one at RDU.
Once she went through it, a TSA 'agent' walked up and started groping and pulling on her hair.
She was like WFT? Why did I just go through a whole body scanner if you are going to grope my hair? Can't you see it is a few bobby pins?

11/15/2010 9:47:27 PM

Simple solution. Stop flying. I haven't flown since 9/11 and never will again.

11/15/2010 9:57:50 PM

you know some douchebag has a juicy contract to manufacture 20,000 of those machines. hope you guys like having your privacy invaded.

11/15/2010 10:06:54 PM

Somewhere in the thread it was asked what people flying on private jets have to do before they can fly. If they start enforcing these same rules for everyone, we'd be more likely to see changes to this current crap situation we're in with these scanners. More often than not, people with money have connections and know who can get things changed.

11/15/2010 10:09:16 PM

There was one I went through up in Minneapolis, they reiterated three times that I had to make sure all my pockets were completely empty even though I had emptied them into the x-ray machine conveyor belt. So I gave them my chapstick, went through and it's actually not really all that slow. Slower than making it clear through the metal detector but not faster than the full body metal detector and the detector wand.

I read recently the government's doctors/physicians were saying it would take approximately a couple thousand full body scans to accumulate 3-5 equivalent chest x-rays per year, but the pilots union having their own doctors argue it was much more potent and was closer to 15-25 per year instead.

Also,

Quote :

"FYI flying in general has increased radiation due to less atmosphere above the plane to filter it."

is true. I think the government report stated this cosmic radiation experienced commonly by pilots/stewards were more potent on the entire flight than the full body scans. This still boils down to a he said/she said scenario but one thing caught my attention. One doc stated it's not the amount of radiation you receive when you go through the scanner and it works correctly; it's the amount you receive if it works improperly.

11/15/2010 10:19:21 PM

Quote :

"the X-ray dose received from the backscatter system is equivalent to the radiation received in two minutes of airplane flight at altitude (0.003* millirem by backscatter (2 scans) compared to .0552 millirem for two minutes of flight). Newer technologies require less scanning time, reducing individual X-ray exposure to .002 millirem for the entire process."

http://blog.tsa.gov/2009/11/response-to-oops-backscatter-x-ray.html

It's funny to me too that most engineers i know hate these things, while the laymen mostly don't seem to care.

11/15/2010 10:26:08 PM

I am more concerned with being pregnant and going through x-rays than I am about the nudity...but I am concerned about the nudity part.

^thanks, moron.

11/15/2010 10:40:53 PM

Stop flying. Stay local. Be Mr. T.

11/15/2010 10:45:59 PM

I, too, am concerned about punckmonk's nudity.

11/15/2010 10:52:39 PM

^^^ i know you know, but in case it's not clear to the casual observer, merely being in an airplane at altitude exposes you to X-rays from cosmic radiation, and the back-scatter is a miniscule percentage of this.

11/15/2010 10:55:19 PM

Has anyone with small children flown since these things were implemented? Do they make babies go through the scanner?

11/15/2010 11:02:16 PM

Yes, shortly before they eat them.

Also, rule 34:
http://www.bodyscannerporn.com/

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2010 11:03:01 PM

You let them try. I've gotten my keychain pocketknife through security like 12 times. I WILL CUT THEM

11/15/2010 11:04:09 PM

Also, someone mentioned 4th amendment rights earlier. These don't exist at airports, because all airports are considered border crossings.

11/15/2010 11:06:06 PM

^ I don't agree with you there. That's one theory on which you can justify tightened security, but it's not really a "border crossing" and not all travels are viewed that way. It's just a "border" for international flights, and that's where you butt up against the right to travel unfettered between the states. The actual legal reason is not that the Fourth Amendment doesn't apply, but rather that you've consented to the search by entering into the airport, and you are free to leave at any point up until you are in the midst of the search.

Here's an interesting perspective on Israeli security:
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother

[Edited on November 16, 2010 at 10:18 AM. Reason : ]

11/16/2010 10:11:19 AM

i did not read any of this thread, but i will form my opinion, anyway:

get over it...who the fuck cares? they will see hundreds (thousands, more likely) of people every day...my body will be nothing special, nor will they remember me 5 seconds after i walk through the scanner...i have nothing to hide and i really couldn't care less

blah blah blah rights blah blah blah liberty blah blah blah waaaaaaaaaaah blah blah blah

11/16/2010 10:36:00 AM

Quote :

"I don't care if they look at my weiner, they just need to hurry their act up."

Look, if it takes some ass hat looking at dicks and tits all day to ensure that Richard Reid Jr. doesn't smuggle a bomb wedged snugly in his anus and then blow up the shitty flight I grudgingly paid too much for, so be it.

A lot of the complaints, especially those regarding the pat down searches remind me of restaurant reviews people post on google or elsewhere:

They'll have one marginally bad experience, and then describe it as if they were eating in the lowest circle of hell, being served doo doo on a platter made of used needles. Similarly, for those who travel, one questionable move by a TSA employee during a search, and the person searched feels entitled to describe it as if they were strapped to a chair and fisted repeatedly as the other TSA workers sit and clap as a studio audience.

11/16/2010 10:51:56 AM

Once you're in line, you have to be searched. If you decline your flight and leave the airport you're subject to a $10,000 fine. Happened to someone just this week.

11/16/2010 11:10:19 AM

are you allowed to tuck while you walk through pigeon-toed?

11/16/2010 11:19:29 AM

that scanner isn't going to find a anus bomb though dude

11/16/2010 11:25:32 AM

ill belt it/give it the north pull

11/16/2010 11:26:41 AM

As with anything that causes a minor inconvenience, people will complain. Following the first wave of complaints they will do it anyway because they need to fly, the complaining just helps vent the frustration caused by hassles.

11/16/2010 11:30:24 AM

Then stop flying.

Apparently if they see a tampon they are required to do further investigation.

11/16/2010 11:31:40 AM

they should send you an email with your picture

11/16/2010 11:31:58 AM

To be honest, one of my problems is that they always pull hot women in their 'random' searches. They always have, and now it just gets creepier with the body imaging machine. I guess its part of my protective nature and hate of creeps.

I'm not all that concerned with the groping (of me), personally. Its just as awkward for them. Now if it was a family member or child...

11/16/2010 11:48:02 AM

someone is going to flip their shit if a TSA worker starts giggling when viewing the images.

11/16/2010 11:53:47 AM

i hope they at least put the TSA image-viewer in some sort of hood, like when an NFL ref reviews a challenge

11/16/2010 11:56:50 AM

^^

Quote :

"A TSA worker in Miami was arrested for aggravated battery after he attacked a co-worker for making fun of the size of his genitals. Rolando Negrin walked through one of the new body scanners during a recent training session and a supervisor started making fun of his manhood. From the article: "According to the police report, Negrin confronted one of his co-workers in an employee parking lot, where he hit him with a police baton on the arm and back.""

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/TSA-Fracas-After-Body-Scanner-Reveals-TMI-92971929.html

[Edited on November 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM. Reason : ]

11/16/2010 11:57:25 AM

sounds about right...

11/16/2010 12:01:20 PM

yeah, that's when these things first came out. now we have a good holiday season coming...hopefully something goes down with some citizen rejecting both of these procedures

11/16/2010 12:06:03 PM

Quote :

"The downside: the security personnel running the scans don't get to see the scans; that important job is left to other security workers in some room somewhere, so as to minimize the chances of unprofessional public leering."

taken from an article from last year

11/16/2010 12:08:21 PM

can someone sum up why everyone hates these things so much?
is it because of nudity or time or both?

11/16/2010 12:09:31 PM

invasion of privacy
health concerns

11/16/2010 12:11:43 PM

don't like it, don't fly

flying is a privilege, not a right

11/16/2010 12:13:03 PM