I don't like how women talk behind their supposed "best friends" behind their backs.

5/12/2011 3:51:26 PM

A bad friend stabs you in the back.

A good friend stabs you in the front.

5/12/2011 3:53:02 PM

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"...I trust you realize that returning the favor is a much bigger commitment, and shouldn't necessarily be expected."

thank god I've never dated a guy who thought this. Yay me!

5/12/2011 3:56:27 PM

For you, its plunging a toilet. Everything is right there for you to see. No surprise.

For us, its getting one of those augers and working your way back into the plumbing.

5/12/2011 4:02:54 PM

Aggression. Disrespecting people (especially women) right to their face. Getting emotionally attached to a sports team that they have no actual connection to, and having spirited arguments with other guys about sports stats or how the season is going play out. I just can't bring myself to care about spectator sports.

Wasting money on cars. Sorry guys, it's worth buying a car that's efficient and reliable, but if you were investing money instead of throwing it away on a rapidly depreciating asset, you'd be better off. To each his own, though.

I'll also echo the "one upper" guy thing. It's possible to be assertive without making pretentious claims at every opportunity. I would expand this to the "always has to get the last word" guy, also.

5/12/2011 4:15:13 PM

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"For you, its plunging a toilet. Everything is right there for you to see. No surprise."

It's not like there's a manual down there for us to go by. Starting out it took practice but in the years I've plunged my fair share of toilets and it's not always just as simply as you would think. As Samantha once said, they don't call it a job for nothing.

5/12/2011 4:17:03 PM

meh, I think four play should be fun for everyone involved.

5/12/2011 4:21:05 PM

I'm sure many guys can share their experiences with girls who were less than skillful in that department. Apparently, it's not all that intuitive.

5/12/2011 4:21:55 PM

You have more margin for error. Even a bad blowjob is still pretty good. I've been told subpar cunnilingus feels like gynecoligal malpractice.

5/12/2011 4:22:32 PM

its not just about skills, but knowing what they have and working with it.

[Edited on May 12, 2011 at 4:24 PM. Reason : no, i'd pick no bj over a "bad" bj]

5/12/2011 4:23:57 PM

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"You have more margin for error. Even a bad blowjob is still pretty good. I've been told subpar cunnilingus feels like gynecoligal malpractice."

I've heard this but I gotta wonder what the hell these dudes are doing where it's that uncomfortable.

5/12/2011 4:24:57 PM

I would like to give insight into this subject


IMO, it feels like taking a wet, mushy piece of material and just kinda randomly moving it around when someone doesn't know what to do. It feels uncomfortable in the sense that it feels gross, and while it might not hurt it still just doesn't feel good.

5/12/2011 4:27:07 PM

it is about how you finger in there and rub on the clitoris. It can be too rough and hurt for sure. That is why licking tends to win out more often.

5/12/2011 4:27:21 PM

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"Even a bad blowjob is still pretty good."

That's not even remotely true.

5/12/2011 4:27:38 PM

ok, so I guess the shocking part is girl who thinks going down on a guy is gross, or that they dont want to learn from their partner how to cause "it's icky"


people are weird

5/12/2011 4:27:51 PM

at risk of giving out tmi- i'm overly sensitive....and sometimes it can straight up hurt.

5/12/2011 4:28:15 PM

^YES! That is what I was trying to say. I actually typed that but I did not know if it would be understood.

5/12/2011 4:28:53 PM

this page gave me 16 boners

5/12/2011 4:30:17 PM

yeah, you hit it pretty much on the head for me.

5/12/2011 4:30:51 PM

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"at risk of giving out tmi- i'm overly sensitive....and sometimes it can straight up hurt."

agreed

5/12/2011 4:34:12 PM

My point exactly. Every girl is different. With men, unless you have a cleft palate or a massive underbite, you really can't be that bad.

5/12/2011 4:37:28 PM

Like ^ said, every girl is different, so if you're overly sensitive and don't say anything, I don't think it's really his fault.

If he's doing weird shit and just jamming his fingers around, then I can see how that would be awkward.

5/12/2011 4:49:52 PM

This is why I have sex with the same guy over and over again.

5/12/2011 4:53:32 PM

Maybe I'm the exact opposite and that's why it just felt weird to me I think I'm under-sensitive if that makes sense.

ANYWAY, I would also like to note that I think guys forget nails can hurt.

5/12/2011 4:55:12 PM

I am shocked at the premise that anybody treats oral sex as "work." You people sicken me.

I am shocked at the number of dudes I know who have admitted to paying for sex.

I'm pretty surprised by how excited people are to go to strip clubs. Let's face reality, we're normally talking about subpar girls that you're not allowed to touch, whose job it is to charge you inordinate amounts of money to give you blue balls and watered-down drinks.

5/12/2011 4:58:04 PM

A frank discussion on oral Things that the same sex does that shocks you.

5/12/2011 4:58:14 PM

I am shocked at how much I agree with Grumpy_GOP in this thread.

5/12/2011 4:59:14 PM

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"girls that don't give head."

I just fell in tdub-love with bmel

but then

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"This is why I have sex with the same guy over and over again."

5/12/2011 5:00:33 PM

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"I would also like to note that I think guys forget nails can hurt."

lol so true

5/12/2011 5:00:53 PM

Would've been a lot funnier if you just reposted her quote with no context

5/12/2011 5:02:09 PM

I only view oral as work if I have a bad tension headache

5/12/2011 5:05:54 PM

lol, Sorry

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"BobbyDigital"

. I still love you though.

5/12/2011 5:14:14 PM

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"If he's doing weird shit and just jamming his fingers around, then I can see how that would be awkward."

this made me lol. if this continues happening and a girl isn't enjoying it, than it's just as much her fault. which brings me to what annoys me bout my gender - tell a guy what makes you feel good. it's not that difficult. it drives me crazy when female friends go on about how much they don't enjoy fooling around cause the guy doesn't know what he's doing... but in reality, she's not telling him what she wants

[Edited on May 12, 2011 at 5:19 PM. Reason : f]

5/12/2011 5:18:37 PM

Guys that feel compelled to describe the physical attributes of women in the vicinity. Yes, that lady does have a nice ass/rack/etc. I assure you that I noticed without your help. Now shut the fuck up so that she or her friends don't hear you being creepy about it.

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"it's not that difficult. it drives me crazy when female friends go on about how much they don't enjoy fooling around cause the guy doesn't know what he's doing... but in reality, she's not telling him what she wants "

THIS

[Edited on May 12, 2011 at 5:21 PM. Reason : ]

5/12/2011 5:20:59 PM

I'd rather people tell me just in case I somehow missed her myself

5/12/2011 5:22:08 PM

there are, shockingly, men who even when told what to do (or not to do) still can't figure it out.

they aren't kept around long though

5/12/2011 6:35:56 PM

^ I'd thank you to leave our back alley antics out of this.

5/12/2011 6:39:15 PM

Lately I'm been using the "long finger" technique. Imagine bowling without the ball. No complaints thus far.

5/12/2011 6:44:00 PM

i like the direction this thread has headed. just sayin'.

5/12/2011 6:44:26 PM

I don't think I've ever had a girl explicitly tell me "what to do"

well that's not true , when I was ~17 this girl told me I was being too rough with my fingers and "guided" them for a moment, but other than that I don't think so

So I kinda get it when girls are frustrated when a guy doesn't know what to do, as he probably should be able to tell from her response. Then again, if you're one of those super-sensitive types (or the opposite) you might wanna vocalize that at the start. Or if you have some crazy specific fetish-type thing you like then you're probably going to have to talk about it

But otherwise, I don't think it should be expected that EITHER party vocally coach their partner through foreplay (or sex for that matter) unless it's just that bad and he/she isn't picking up on it. If that's really the case though then yeah...it's your fault if you don't say anything and it continues to suck.

So basically I just agreed with everyone and my post was pointless. I'm going to click the "Post Reply!" button anyway now. and heeeeere we go...

5/12/2011 6:46:12 PM

It doesn't necessarily have to be spelled out, but some basic instructions -- slower/faster/harder/etc. -- can't hurt.

Unfortunately there is a tendency among some women to act like they're having a good time even when they aren't, culminating in the fake orgasm -- a thing that absolutely boggles my mind, but that's for a thread about "things that the opposite sex does," I suppose.

5/12/2011 6:52:50 PM

ha yea, being guided verbally or otherwise doesn't bother me in the slightest. could be a bit of a turn on actually...

[Edited on May 12, 2011 at 6:59 PM. Reason : V EXACTLY.]

5/12/2011 6:55:55 PM

To me, knowing that the other person is getting their cookies is about as big of a turn-on as they come. (No pun originally intended, but now I'm liking it)

Which I suppose brings me to another thing relevant to the thread: Guys who act like they don't give a shit if they please the woman during sex. Either:

1) They really don't, in which case they're an asshole.
2) They do but they want everyone to think they don't, in which case they're a stupid asshole.

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"I'd rather people tell me just in case I somehow missed her myself"

It may be acceptable to gesture subtly at someone you may have missed, because they were behind you or something. But unless you're straight up blind, you don't need a description of the thing, or what the guy would like to do to it.

[Edited on May 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM. Reason : ]

5/12/2011 6:58:12 PM

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"I'd thank you to leave our back alley antics out of this."

5/12/2011 6:58:20 PM

girls who try too hard to be trendy/in style

skanks

girls who always talk about how they don't like other girls and they're "just one of the guys"

girls who play dumb for attention

5/12/2011 6:59:11 PM

oh

women who start dating a guy and drop off the face of the earth completely. (i know both sexes do it, but it annoys the fuck out of me)

5/12/2011 7:04:05 PM

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"Wasting money on cars. Sorry guys, it's worth buying a car that's efficient and reliable, but if you were investing money instead of throwing it away on a rapidly depreciating asset, you'd be better off. To each his own, though."

Aren't people "better off" spending their money on things they like instead of hoarding it?

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"I am shocked at the number of dudes I know who have admitted to paying for sex."

Are you shocked at the number of dudes or that they admitted it?

5/12/2011 7:12:39 PM

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"Are you shocked at the number of dudes or that they admitted it?"

A little from column A, a little from column B.

5/12/2011 7:14:51 PM

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"four play"

5/12/2011 7:19:05 PM

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"Aren't people "better off" spending their money on things they like instead of hoarding it?"

When the vast majority of Americans have nothing saved for their retirement, I'd have to say no. It's also not about hoarding cash, it's about buying things with cash that will appreciate in value (investment).

5/12/2011 7:22:06 PM