So is a food truck controversy what it takes to get you folks to vote, or what?

9/2/2011 12:44:55 PM

i vote regardless if food is involved.

9/2/2011 1:08:25 PM

There's an Indian food truck that pays the Durham Nice Price store to set up in the parking lot every day. There's plenty of room, he's got a convenient space to set up his truck, he pays some rent to the store, and people buy books while they're waiting for their food. Quite literally everyone wins.

I don't understand why Raleigh hates this so much.

9/2/2011 1:20:09 PM

Because idiots like Thomas Crowder are on the council. WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE SLEEPING CHILDREN

9/2/2011 1:26:10 PM

one step forward, two steps back

9/2/2011 1:29:38 PM

9/2/2011 1:34:32 PM

http://raleighcitizen.posterous.com/its-not-about-the-food-trucks-raleigh-needs-t

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"Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Raleigh City Councilors earlier this morning. Raleigh City Councilors, I'm writing to express my support for the food trucks in downtown Raleigh. I am currently a resident in District D, living in the Glenwood South area. Over the past few months, I have been paying close attention at the effect this debate is having on the young, entrepreneurial, creative class in Raleigh. Even though there are several initiatives under way to attract this passionate group of folks to the area, as it's very well pointed out in this article, the entire food truck debate undermines these efforts because this is the type of city 'character' these folks are looking for in a modern, diverse, urban city. By stalling and dragging this issue out this long, you are making the statement that you do NOT support this type of entrepreneurial spirit in our area, regardless of what other messages you might be trying to push elsewhere. You are literally driving these small businesses out of Raleigh. More so, most people are seeing clearly that the motivations for blocking the food trucks are not transparent at all. The one group that is very opposed to this effort, the restaurant owners mentioned here, are driving way too much influence and people are noticing. How is it possible that many other cities, larger and smaller, have been able to figure this out, yet in Raleigh, city councilors have spent countless hours debating petty details that cannot be backed up by any facts? The discussions on the issue are laughable many times. Either you support entrepreneurship, small-businesses, and new business models, or you don't. Either you support 'government getting out of the way' or you don't. You can't say I'm all in favor of jobs and then completely shoot down an entire business model because some business owners are afraid of some competition (isn't this what free enterprise is all about?) You're already made 1000 restrictions on the food trucks with all the regulations you're placing on them. You can't really have it both ways. I've heard it several times over the last few months.. over First Friday conversations, over Twitter, on blogs, you name it. "I don't want to establish my business in downtown Raleigh because"... 1. it has no character 2. it doesn't support new business models 3. it doesn't seem to really embrace diversity. 4. there is no startup culture or incubator... On and on. It's sad, really. There are many things like food trucks that might come our way in the future. "Pop-up" stores. Co-working businesses. Brick and mortar restaurants are not the only businesses we need to make downtown Raleigh flourish. However, you're making our city unfriendly to some of these efforts, which means we're not going to grow as a modern city and will keep lagging behind others because we just want to keep Raleigh as it is. "

9/2/2011 3:30:27 PM

lol @ all the people who say they are going to boycott the restaurants. the people that would boycott are the same people that never go to those restaurants anyway.

for every person that refuses to eat there, 2 more are willing.

9/2/2011 4:08:57 PM

a lot of them go to helios, but that's about it

9/2/2011 4:22:28 PM

Food truck ordinance passes 6-2 which allows but restricts food trucks in Raleigh.

Opposed were Thomas Crowder (surprise) and John Odom who stated he's not supporting foodtrucks because he's not looking forward to Raleigh looking like Durham.

9/6/2011 2:36:34 PM

^^^which is the reason these establishments shouldn't worry about damn food trucks

[Edited on September 6, 2011 at 2:45 PM. Reason : fuck]

9/6/2011 2:41:50 PM

I used to go to Helios but I don't like their revamped menu and half of their staff is pissy.

9/6/2011 2:44:08 PM

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"lol @ all the people who say they are going to boycott the restaurants. the people that would boycott are the same people that never go to those restaurants anyway."

I used to drink at the Hibernian in the past, ate at Tobacco Road several times, have eaten at Caffe Luna countless times dating back to college, and used to call Big Ed's the best breakfast in Raleigh.

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"for every person that refuses to eat there, 2 more are willing."

You're correct about that-- but then again why are the restaurant owners so scared?

it's all a moot point, logic and reason won out(for the most part).

[Edited on September 6, 2011 at 2:51 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2011 2:50:54 PM

^^ they re-revamped their menu in a positive direction, and the staff is much friendlier lately than they used to be

also, the ordinances are tl;dr but is there anywhere near hillsborough street they can park?

be pretty cool if they could roll up out front of patterson

[Edited on September 6, 2011 at 2:55 PM. Reason : -]

9/6/2011 2:53:43 PM

The change in staff must be recent then because last year 90% of the time I went in the service was terrible. I eventually gave up having lunch there because of it.

9/6/2011 2:55:08 PM

yeah, i was ready to give up on the place based on attitude, but i am a creature of habit and have been rewarded

there are a few employees who work there on weekends who are outright pleasant

9/6/2011 2:58:48 PM

anyone know the details of the ordinance that was passed today? what restrictions are still in effect?

9/6/2011 3:08:29 PM

highlights:

food trucks pay $150 per year in fees to the City
Minimum of 150 feet away from other restaurants (not 100% sure on this one)
can stay open until 3a.m.

9/6/2011 3:12:45 PM

ahhh I can't wait to stammer out of a bar wasted and get some good food

really...I can't

9/6/2011 3:15:34 PM

heard possibly only allowed on private property (not public streets) and 150' from restaurants so is it going to be hard to have one near a bar?

9/6/2011 3:22:12 PM

not all bars are restaurants...so I doubt it

9/6/2011 3:27:57 PM

cool as long as bars is not the same to restaurants for them

9/6/2011 3:39:54 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/10094035/

9/6/2011 4:02:49 PM

http://blogs.newsobserver.com/food/mark-your-calendars-2-upcoming-food-truck-gatherings

10/10/2011 11:24:46 AM

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"They are also offering a $25 tasting ticket, which guarantees you food from every truck plus two beers "

So I wonder how this is going to work exactly. Seems like if the truck runs out of food you're SOL

10/10/2011 11:35:21 AM

Did anyone go to the Car Show at Motorco in Durham on Saturday?

Chirba Chirba Dumpling, Pie Pushers, Klausie's, The Parlour, and Daisy Cakes were all there.

I had the malted cinnamon cone from The Parlour. That have some seriously delicious ice cream.

10/10/2011 11:42:10 AM

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"Brian Bottger, owner of the Only Burger truck, said he knows the last food truck rodeo was not fun for everyone: there were so many people that lines merged into each other and a few newer trucks ran out of food. So this time, Bottger says they will close down Foster Street so the food trucks can spread out, they added an extra hour and the trucks will be more prepared to handle the crowds. "

Well thank goodness for that. Maybe I'll try going this time.

10/10/2011 11:47:25 AM

I think the trucks in Raleigh on Thursday sounds like a winner to me.

Must find accomplice.

10/17/2011 3:30:55 PM

I got the $25 tickets for the Raleigh one. I figure the money is going to a good cause and hopefully it means no standing in line for food

10/17/2011 3:43:07 PM

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"Did anyone go to the Car Show at Motorco in Durham on Saturday? Chirba Chirba Dumpling, Pie Pushers, Klausie's, The Parlour, and Daisy Cakes were all there. I had the malted cinnamon cone from The Parlour. That have some seriously delicious ice cream."

I was there. Enjoyed a good slice from the Pie Pushers truck (salami, mushroom, & goat cheese) and would visit again. If I had been able to stay longer in the afternoon I would have visited the Parlour as well.

What is Klausie's? I only remember seeing the other four.

10/18/2011 10:20:55 AM

It's another pizza truck http://www.klausies.com/

10/18/2011 3:17:12 PM

Can't wait for food truck madness tonight.

10/20/2011 10:38:38 AM

Fuck I wanna go, but my friends won't do it

10/20/2011 10:47:43 AM

Tell your friends to stop being lame!

10/20/2011 10:56:12 AM

good timing on the bump. my mouth is watering for some builkogi, and they'll be here in 30 min

10/20/2011 10:57:39 AM

^^^ what are you talking about people are going before skeeball tonight

10/20/2011 11:07:12 AM

Do I play skeeball?

No

So how am I supposed to know people are going to the food truck thing?

10/20/2011 11:20:01 AM

its on facebooooook.

10/20/2011 11:20:27 AM

I also don't facebook stalk

if its not on the top of my newsfeed when I click on the website tab, then I don't know about it

10/20/2011 11:21:19 AM

There is a mexican food truck that comes to my work....

the papusas are delicious

10/20/2011 11:25:20 AM

^^ was on the top of my news feed ... thats how i found out

10/20/2011 12:50:58 PM

I want to say hello to more TWWers. I think I weirded out BigHitSunday at the fair. Introduce yourself if you see me. I'll be there around seven or so.

10/20/2011 6:02:55 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10282070/

Is this really necessary? It seems like Raleigh only wants to collect money out of lifting stupid restrictions. I'm not saying food trucks are the be all and end all to living in a good city, but if you don't think Raleigh isn't extortionist, you're full of shit.

10/21/2011 12:01:28 AM

"$250 annual fee, yet zoning restrictions, yet a fucking owners permit."

Seriously, Raleigh can go to hell.

10/21/2011 12:08:05 AM

<3 Bulkogi

Last night, I had one of their bul-dogs: all beef hot dog, cheese, bulkogi, caramelized onions, and kimchi. Best thing I ate all night.

We also had a fluffernutter crepe from Parlez Vous Crepe that was damn tasty.

10/21/2011 7:11:38 AM

Went to the Rodeo yesterday in RTP. Hit up Pie Pushers and The Parlour. Sadly they were out of the Malted Cinnamon ice cream but I did get to try the Apple Pie Ice Cream, it was great.

They really need to fix that setup in RTP though. The parking was atrocious and the line for Chirba Chirba was extremely long and moving fairly slow.

10/21/2011 7:59:01 AM

^^^ Don't forget the $75 fee the private property owner must apply for as well

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"keeps them at least 100 feet from restaurants and 50 feet from food-vending carts."

wtf seriously?

10/21/2011 8:04:02 AM

$$$Raleigh$$$

Straight ballin'.

10/21/2011 10:19:28 AM

Food Truck Rodeo 2morrow.

[Edited on October 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM. Reason : ]

10/29/2011 1:44:06 PM

set em up

11/7/2011 2:13:06 PM