Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
I was hoping TreeTwista10 would have asked where the defense would come from, but alas, he didn't want to be a good sport. 8/22/2012 2:29:11 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
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KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Inside Seattle's quarterback Carroll-sell: Timing of Russell Wilson's start
Posted by Danny O'Neil
Pete Carroll's high-stakes move could define his legacy in Seattle By Steve Kelley | The Seattle Times
Seahawks' Russell Wilson to start Friday By Danny O'Neil | The Seattle Times
Understanding why the Seahawks' are going to start Russell Wilson is not difficult. Coach Pete Carroll wants to see whether the rookie can replicate his second-half success the past two exhibition games if he's going against the opponent's first-string defense.
Why now, though? That's a question that is more difficult to answer, especially after Carroll's explanation that starting Wilson did not constitute a change in the team's original plans. The change occurred in which game it was Wilson would start.
"The change was that we didn't start Russell in Game 2," Carroll said. "That was one of my thoughts that we were pretty strong about so this is not a big deal for us to be doing it in Game 3 because we already thought that that would be the right thing to do. But then after reevaluating, I thought, 'Let's just stay the course one more team here.' So we did."
This surprised me because coming out of the first exhibition game, my best guess was Wilson would start the second exhibition game. My rationale was Seattle had played Tarvaris Jackson with the first-unit in the team's mock game on Sunday, Aug. 5, then Flynn got his turn on the exhibition opener on Aug. 11. Give Wilson a shot the next week in Denver, and then each quarterback would get one turn with the first-unit offense in a game situation and Carroll would have his body of information to make a decision.
So why didn't Carroll go with Wilson in Game 2 like he planned? Was Wilson's red-zone interception after the Seahawks forced a Titans' turnover scare Carroll? Was it something Flynn did?
"It's totally a gut feeling," Carroll said. "Let's keep it the same, and let's learn more. I thought we were making progress and we were moving along in a way I didn't want to change that."
But after thinking about that decision, I had another thought. Starting Wilson in the third exhibition game instead of the second accomplishes two things: 1. This gives Wilson the stiffest defensive test available this month. The third exhibition game is the one opposing coaches generally game plan for. Not only that, but Arrowhead Stadium is considered one of the tougher environments for an opposing team. Coach Romeo Crennel is a defensive-minded coach, the Chiefs play a 3-4 scheme. So do Dallas and Green Bay -- the Seahawks' second and third opponents. For that matter, Arizona's defense is based in a 3-4 though the Cardinals aren't nearly so static, showing multiple fronts.
2. Matt Flynn could still get a shot with the starters this week. NFL teams generally play their starters through the first series of the third quarter, which means that if Flynn starts the second half, he would still get a chance to work against the first-string defense.
Then again, as has been pointed out to me, maybe I'm trying to rationalize what is much more of a fluid situation. If Carroll followed a gut instinct to start Flynn again in Week 2, maybe he's simply responding to the fact he was wowed by the way Wilson played under constant pressure in the second half in Denver.
Whatever the reason, a quarterback situation that seemed to be settling down just got a whole lot more confusing.
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Another good read on our NCSU ALUM8/22/2012 2:33:11 PM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
Hey you stupid fucks, he graduated from NC State, not Wisconsin. He transferred because he would have had no guaranteed shot at starting here and instead he wanted to go play for a school where he would be able to get more national spotlight and boost his draft stock. He played in the fucking Rose Bowl. The best he could have gotten from NC State last year would be another Champs Bowl win.
If any of you think you would have done anything differently than he did, you're an idiot. You all would have done the same, including me. Yes, it's sad that 99% of the time he will be referred to as a QB who played for Wisconsin, because that was where he played his last year of ball (and honestly his most successful year of ball), but that's just how the shit works.
Some of us still like RW because he's a great player with a great character and he's damn fun to watch when he's on the field. He played for us for three years and led the offense to the best season we've had in a decade, three consecutive UNC wins and an NCAA record. He was the best QB we've had since Philip Rivers (hopefully Glennon will take this title this year). If you don't like him, maybe YOU need to get the fuck out of this thread. 8/22/2012 2:34:43 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ +1 8/22/2012 2:46:06 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he's damn fun to watch when he's on the field" |
8/22/2012 2:48:12 PM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
^^^agreed. It's also worth noting that he still speaks highly of NCSU and took the time to come to our Spring game, do interviews, participate in the Answer for Cancer Walk, etc. He seems like a great person who made the best possible decision for himself and his future, and TOB did the same thing.
No fault on either side, it's just that the best option for both parties was a bit of a heartbreak. Thankfully both sides did very well, proving the validity of their choices and now both can be happy for each other. There's no need for anyone to be butthurt. 8/22/2012 3:02:52 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He transferred because he would have had no guaranteed shot at starting here " |
no, he transferred because he blew off spring practice, thinking he'd make it in baseball. Then he stunk it up on the diamond and came back to TOB, hat in hand, begging TOB to take him back. TOB doesn't play that BS, and pointed out that RW didn't DESERVE a shot at starting here, not yet. SO RW picked up his balls and went elsewhere.8/22/2012 3:12:37 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
^this
[Edited on August 22, 2012 at 3:16 PM. Reason : I still love RW tho. Anyone who can hand UNC consecutive losses is cool in my book.] 8/22/2012 3:15:31 PM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
So what you're saying is that he transferred because he would have had no guaranteed shot at starting here. 8/22/2012 3:15:33 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
he elaborated 8/22/2012 3:16:33 PM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no, he transferred because he blew off spring practice, thinking he'd make it in baseball. Then he stunk it up on the diamond and came back to TOB, hat in hand, begging TOB to take him back. TOB doesn't play that BS, and pointed out that RW didn't DESERVE a shot at starting here, not yet. SO RW picked up his balls and went elsewhere." |
Truth. I still <3 RW though. He's not a traitor or a Judas, he's just someone who tried to make the best decision for himself, still thinking that baseball was his future. When that fell through, it was too late to come back here.8/22/2012 3:28:28 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
agreed 8/22/2012 3:31:07 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So what you're saying is that he transferred because he would have had no guaranteed shot at starting here." |
if by "had no guaranteed shot at starting" you mean "blew off spring practice and then came crawling back later," then yes.8/22/2012 3:32:30 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Hey guyzzz, why did Russell Wilson leave again? 8/22/2012 3:36:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
wonder if Cal Bakersfield alumni hate Alex Johnson 8/22/2012 3:40:11 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
lol 8/22/2012 3:41:10 PM |
Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
8/22/2012 3:41:41 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " If any of you think you would have done anything differently than he did, you're an idiot. You all would have done the same, including me" |
I wouldn't have, because I don't really enjoy playing baseball.8/22/2012 5:08:02 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
his to lose http://seattle.sbnation.com/2012/8/22/3260704/russell-wilson-seahawks-matt-flynn
wolfbadger 8/22/2012 10:57:11 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
sweet 8/22/2012 10:58:06 PM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
Wiley on ESPN " if you look at Wilson's college career at Wisconsin..." what a dick 8/24/2012 6:09:04 PM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
is this game on tv? 8/24/2012 7:15:26 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
only in local/regional markets, but there will be streams 8/24/2012 7:16:10 PM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
NFLN is doing live look-ins from 730 to 11 tonight, so you should be able to see parts of the game if you dont want to deal with streams. 8/24/2012 7:19:41 PM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
No NFLN here, so it'll have to be streams
where's a reliable place to find these? 8/24/2012 7:24:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
firstrowsports.eu 8/24/2012 7:25:47 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
good opening drive 8/24/2012 8:19:05 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
didn't realize sweezy was starting this week and started last week as well. http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/Thats-Sweezy-as-in-making-it-look-easy/bf33c7d5-ecb5-4545-8372-ace0da780110 was a good read. bleacher report has a longer story but it's bleacher report.
hauschka kicking too...
[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 8:48 PM. Reason : a] 8/24/2012 8:35:51 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/64720/1/nfl-pre-season---seattle-seahawks-vs-kansas-city-chiefs-live-stream-online.html 8/24/2012 8:36:44 PM |
bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
won't be long before we see a STEVE HAUSCHKA IS A GOLDEN GOD thread 8/24/2012 8:55:11 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
well, every td pass counts, even free ones 8/24/2012 9:02:22 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
don't tell my league, but i'm planning on drafting Hauschka 8/24/2012 9:03:02 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "STEVE HAUSCHKA IS A GOLDEN GOD thread" |
did that not exist? it should have.8/24/2012 9:12:36 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2012/8/21/3258410/russell-wilson-i-for-one-welcome-our-new-qb-overlord 8/24/2012 9:22:54 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
8/24/2012 9:28:19 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
start this man 8/24/2012 9:34:55 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Seeing a lot of #allrussellwilsoneverything on my twitter. Must be doing well. 8/24/2012 9:45:04 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Fucking Wilson is going to force me to get DirecTV 8/24/2012 9:51:41 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
Did Wilson introduce himself as Wolfbadger?
Also, he's killing it! 8/24/2012 10:09:28 PM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
YAY RUSSELL 8/24/2012 10:13:00 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
just dumped luck and picked up russell ... Its what I wanted to do draft day anyhow but couldn't pull the trigger with the other guy still named the starter.
I can go to bed now feeling that everything wrong in my life has corrected itself. 8/24/2012 10:35:17 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
JIMMIES RUSSELLED 8/24/2012 10:38:59 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just dumped luck and picked up russell" |
i love RW, but i dunno about that one
hope its not a keeper league8/24/2012 10:48:44 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
nope ... not a keeper league ... small fry $5 league for bragging rights and lunch money 8/24/2012 10:50:31 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I dropped Reggie Bush for Wilson, and I still have Brees and Peyton on the team 8/24/2012 10:51:33 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
^^if he's your backup QB anyway it probably wont be a huge deal
^lol
[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM. Reason : .] 8/24/2012 10:52:00 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I already had PM as my #1 QB (though looking like a mediocre pick at best) ... so this is to hope I get a homerun to replace manning when he is playing against a top 5 D (or if manning sucks big time).
Seattle has enough playmakers on the team that I can see Russell being that last missing piece they needed to move up the ladder significantly. 8/24/2012 11:00:44 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
RW getting TONS of mention and love on ESPN 8/25/2012 1:04:44 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
oh yeah. Adjusting my fantasy accordingly 8/25/2012 1:05:55 AM |