thegoodlife3 All American 39462 Posts user info edit post |
^^ quite breathtaking at how hard they're grasping at straws there
it really shouldn't be a shock, but still 7/26/2012 6:34:07 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
That article is lolarious. 7/26/2012 6:57:10 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
remember, we're supposed to be tolerant of people with different beliefs! unless they are Christian 7/26/2012 7:36:46 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
For page 2
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/media-invents-story-chik-fil-head-condemned-gay-marriage_648913.html?page=1 7/26/2012 7:49:29 PM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, not I want a delicious original chicken sandwich. 7/26/2012 8:02:34 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
What? Some old, white guy who happened to inherit a popular business is against a growing call for societal equality?!?! *gasp* 7/26/2012 8:14:48 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148807 Posts user info edit post |
sounds more like the people for societal equality are against the old white guy for supporting traditional marriage 7/26/2012 8:18:52 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i wish the faggots would just live their lives and leave us all the fuck alone." |
Uh... I hope there is sarcasm there. But I know the Boston mayor wants to not allow Chik-fil-a in Boston because of this. I understand why people are angry but if they are discriminating who they employee or who they serve, then I think Boston's mayor has no roll to ban them just because of the president's religious views.7/26/2012 8:19:10 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "supporting traditional marriage" |
More Frank Luntz wordplay bullshit.
That little farce became glaringly obvious when it became socially acceptable to allow divorce on a lark as well as the Episcopal Church, a very mainstream Christian denomination, standing up against the ignorance and fears and lies of the past and actually following the teachings of Jesus to profess love and acceptance.7/26/2012 8:27:15 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i wish the faggots would just live their lives and leave us all the fuck alone." |
7/26/2012 8:28:52 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Perhaps they could live their lives if they were given equal rights under the law like the rest of us. 7/26/2012 8:30:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148807 Posts user info edit post |
traditional marriage man and woman marriage
find me the quote of the chick-fil-a dude saying he opposes gay marriage, cause i dont think he said it
7/26/2012 8:32:49 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Well fuck, I support man and woman marriage too considering mine is taking place next October.
I just figured you of all people would be better than to fall into the trap of saying something as ridiculous as traditional marriage. Oh lord, now aaronburro will race to the scene and start arguing semantics about how marriage has been "this way" (in his own estimation) forever and ever and will challenge someone to prove otherwise. . . 7/26/2012 8:40:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148807 Posts user info edit post |
i was more talking about the link that ThePeter posted, which you may not have read
while the website doesn't appear to be the most non-biased, when you read the actual words that the Chick-fil-A owner said in the interview, it sounds like this whole thing was some bullshit
yet everybody is running with it like its fact 7/26/2012 8:43:48 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Perhaps they could live their lives if they were given equal rights under the law like the rest of us. " |
they do have the same rights. or are queers being thrown in jail again?
Quote : | "Oh lord, now aaronburro will race to the scene and start arguing semantics about how marriage has been "this way" (in his own estimation) forever and ever and will challenge someone to prove otherwise. . ." |
sorry, it kinda has been what marriage is. I'm sorry that you don't like facts]7/26/2012 8:55:19 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
*give aaronburro a pellet treat for his rapid conditioned response* 7/26/2012 8:57:38 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
actually, I hadn't even noiced what you said, but I figured I'd play along afterwards 7/26/2012 8:58:37 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
Media Invents Story That Chick-fil-A President Condemned Gay Marriage http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/23/boston-mayor-blocks-chick-fil-a-franchise-from-city-over-homophobic-attitude/
Quote : | "Last week, reports emerged that Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy had condemned gay marriage. It's no secret that the company is run by devout Christians, but this still caused an uproar. Boston's mayor threatened to deny the company business permits, celebrities condemned the company, and the Muppets announced fast food chain wouldn't be able to license any new toys for their kids meals.
One small problem: The president of Chick-fil-A never actually said anything condemning gay marriage." |
7/26/2012 9:05:11 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sorry, it kinda has been what marriage is" |
Marriage also used to traditionally be only between people of the same race, yet somehow society didn't collapse when that nonsense was thrown out. And if a legally sanctioned church is willing to marry two people, then who the fuck is government to get in the way? Whatever happened to equal protection under the law? Or are we back to some followers of Jesus being more equal than others?7/26/2012 9:05:33 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Marriage also used to traditionally be only between people of the same race, yet somehow society didn't collapse when that nonsense was thrown out." |
Actually, that statement couldn't be any less false if it tried.
Quote : | "And if a legally sanctioned church is willing to marry two people, then who the fuck is government to get in the way?" |
If they want to do that, fine. Where is there any law saying the police can bust in and break up that ceremony? Now, when you start saying "I want the gov't to say I did a good thing and give me goodies," then it kind of makes sense that the gov't gets involved at that point, no?7/26/2012 9:09:40 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
And now the conversation turns to the definition of the word "traditional," since anti-miscegenation laws didn't ALWAYS exist.
[Edited on July 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM. Reason : It's not a tradition unless it's FOUR hundred years old.] 7/26/2012 9:11:31 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Actually, that statement couldn't be any less false if it tried." |
What type of revisionist kool-aid are you drinking? And does it come in a flavor to where my people still have their ancestral land and were left in peace by you white folks?
As for interference, I know you know about Amendment One because you, in your brief spark of wisdom, voted against the damn thing. And don't start down this road of "gays are free to marry whomever of the opposite sex they wish!" bullshittery. 7/26/2012 9:16:27 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
maybe aaronburro's girl dumped his ass because she read his posts on TWW. 7/26/2012 9:19:24 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What type of revisionist kool-aid are you drinking?" |
I;d like to know what revisionist history YOU are reading. Show me where there's not been widespread intermarriage between races? Fuck, John Smith married motherfuckin Pocahontas! Jews in the Bible were marrying people of all sorts of different races. Just where in the fuck are you getting off saying that marriage has historically been between people of the same race?
Quote : | "As for interference, I know you know about Amendment One because you, in your brief spark of wisdom, voted against the damn thing." |
Actually, wasn't eligible to vote, but I would have voted against it.
Quote : | "And don't start down this road of "gays are free to marry whomever of the opposite sex they wish!" bullshittery." |
Not bullshittery at all. They are perfectly free to marry whoever they want. Just know that word "marry", by definition, means someone of the opposite sex. I'm sorry that you don't comprehend English7/26/2012 9:32:08 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Just where in the fuck are you getting off saying that marriage has historically been between people of the same race?" |
I'd like to introduce you to the United States of America circa 1865-1960ish... And Pocahontas died miserable after being bargained off to the English.
Quote : | "Just know that word "marry", by definition, means someone of the opposite sex." |
You may want to tell that to the 80 million folks in the Episcopal Church. I'm sorry sorry you don't comprehend the free exercise of religion.7/26/2012 9:45:09 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fuck, John Smith married motherfuckin Pocahontas" |
actually that was john rolfe, not john smith.7/26/2012 9:45:38 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
Its time to ban white people marriages! Get 'er dun Jamal! Dey durk er darriages! 7/26/2012 9:46:59 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd like to introduce you to the United States of America circa 1865-1960ish" |
You're going to have to clarify. A law doesn't change history, dude. I know what you are trying to say, and you couldn't be more wrong with it. Are you telling me that 95 years existence of a fucked up law now means that the previous thousands of years of human history cease to exist?
Quote : | "You may want to tell that to the 80 million folks in the Episcopal Church. I'm sorry sorry you don't comprehend the free exercise of religion." |
Just because one group of people say something, doesn't make it so. Or are you now saying that Jesus Christ did, in fact, rise from the dead? The Episcopalian church is performing wedding ceremonies for same-sex couples. That doesn't mean those couples are actually "married." I can say I am the fucking pope and maybe even get the Episcopal Church to agree (they won't), but that doesn't make me the fuckin Pope7/26/2012 9:49:13 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Chick-Fil-A Ingredients 1 boneless, skinless chicken breast 1/4 cup pickle juice (sour dill is my favorite) 1 egg 1/4 cup milk 1/2 cup flour 1 tablespoon powdered sugar 1/2 teaspoon paprika 1/2 teaspoon salt 1/4 teaspoon black pepper 1/4 teaspoon garlic powder 1/4 teaspoon celery salt 1/4 teaspoon dried basil Optional: up to 1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper for a spicy sandwich Oil for frying (about a cup)" |
[Edited on July 26, 2012 at 9:54 PM. Reason : ...]7/26/2012 9:53:22 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Are you arguing law or tradition, because you keep mixing up the two... 7/26/2012 9:53:43 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not mixing up anything, dude. I'm talking about marriage. It is a concept that is totally separate from the gov't. Marriage didn't start existing in 1789 when the US started, dude. Even if the US gov't imploded tomorrow, marriage would still exist. 7/26/2012 9:57:55 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
So, if it's conferred by the church, then who are you to tell 80 million people that their acceptance is wrong, Dude? 7/26/2012 10:00:32 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
Let the government ban a business because the president of said business says they give money to a Christian group that supports traditional (non-homosexual) marriage. Next step is to bar all Muslims from owning businesses like they did in Nazi Germany to the Jews.... Come on guys, we all know that 100% of Muslims are terrorist pirate ninjas.
We can't rely on the consumer to boycott or not purchase a product. We need the government to make the choices for us. Ban Chik-fil-a @Boston.
People are stupid, politicians are geniuses like Einstein; they know better than me as to what decisions I make.
Welcome to the United States of Sardonic. 7/26/2012 10:01:58 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
who says it's conferred by the church? does that mean there are no Jewish people who are married? No married muslims?
And, I'm not telling them that they are stupid. Just that they don't understand the meaning of a word. There's a lot of people who don't understand the meaning of a lot of words. Or is your argument now boiling down to "who are you to have an opinion on something?" 7/26/2012 10:02:55 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm not mixing up anything, dude. I'm talking about marriage. It is a concept that is totally separate from the gov't. Marriage didn't start existing in 1789 when the US started, dude. Even if the US gov't imploded tomorrow, marriage would still exist." |
No it's not separate. There are a whole slew of rights that come with marriage that is recognized by government.
Government doesn't hold the keys that get you into heaven, they hold the keys that allow you to visit your spouse, inherit property, etc. etc.7/26/2012 10:04:57 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No it's not separate. There are a whole slew of rights that come with marriage that is recognized by government." |
So, if the US gov't failed to exist tomorrow, there would be no one here that was married? Really? That gov't grants some benefits doesn't mean that the original act is now a gov't act. Put more simply, the existence of marriage is not dependent upon the existence of any gov't.]7/26/2012 10:06:25 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
A marriage license is issued by the state. 7/26/2012 10:10:40 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "On the order of 1,400 legal rights are conferred upon married couples in the U.S. Typically these are composed of about 400 state benefits and over 1,000 federal benefits. Among them are the rights to: joint parenting; joint adoption; joint foster care, custody, and visitation (including non-biological parents); status as next-of-kin for hospital visits and medical decisions where one partner is too ill to be competent; joint insurance policies for home, auto and health; dissolution and divorce protections such as community property and child support; immigration and residency for partners from other countries; inheritance automatically in the absence of a will; joint leases with automatic renewal rights in the event one partner dies or leaves the house or apartment; inheritance of jointly-owned real and personal property through the right of survivorship (which avoids the time and expense and taxes in probate); benefits such as annuities, pension plans, Social Security, and Medicare; spousal exemptions to property tax increases upon the death of one partner who is a co-owner of the home; veterans' discounts on medical care, education, and home loans; joint filing of tax returns; joint filing of customs claims when traveling; wrongful death benefits for a surviving partner and children; bereavement or sick leave to care for a partner or child; decision-making power with respect to whether a deceased partner will be cremated or not and where to bury him or her; crime victims' recovery benefits; loss of consortium tort benefits; domestic violence protection orders; judicial protections and evidentiary immunity; and more.... Most of these legal and economic benefits cannot be privately arranged or contracted for. For example, absent a legal (or civil) marriage, there is no guaranteed joint responsibility to the partner and to third parties (including children) in such areas as child support, debts to creditors, taxes, etc. In addition, private employers and institutions often give other economic privileges and other benefits (special rates or memberships) only to married couples. And, of course, when people cannot marry, they are denied all the emotional and social benefits and responsibilities of marriage as well." |
http://www.religioustolerance.org/mar_bene.htm/7/26/2012 10:12:02 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
There is a huge issue with government recognizing a religious institution. If you made the argument that the government gives rights based off a religious institution that only allows the marriage/union of a heterosexual couple...well, you will run into legal issues. Separation of Church and State.
The whole marriage thing is pretty dumb honestly... govt. should treat everyone equally and not resort to what a religious institution dictates. I believe that if you are a consulting adult then you can marry (lets just call it a legal union for the sake of religious folks) regardless. People making the argument of marrying a dog or a child are dumb... consulting adults, not pit bulls. 7/26/2012 10:15:30 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
then boycott the federal and state government
[Edited on July 26, 2012 at 10:26 PM. Reason : f] 7/26/2012 10:26:04 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
^ How so, by not paying taxes? 7/26/2012 10:45:13 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
well yea 7/26/2012 10:50:46 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
this is not a fight the gays can win unless they figure out a way to become delicious. 7/26/2012 11:18:20 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
^ if they become juicy turkey or chicken burgers with the most amazing sauce that explodes in my mouth... the only way 7/26/2012 11:45:19 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, I'm sure they want to explode in your mouth with just oneshot. 7/27/2012 12:43:40 AM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
^ on that note, Chik-fil-a should change their slogan to:
We'll shoot one load of flavor in your mouth everytime 7/27/2012 12:47:56 AM |
punchmonk Double Entendre 22300 Posts user info edit post |
I thought this was well put.
7/27/2012 4:15:11 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
it will probably benefit her to quit eating chic fil a. i bet she is not very toned 7/27/2012 5:05:46 PM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
7/27/2012 5:32:00 PM |
occamsrezr All American 6985 Posts user info edit post |
From Facebook:
Quote : | "It just seems like a silly culture clash, in some markets they have an almost fast-food-hipster cachet, but then the media goes crazy on this story when they expand in to liberal areas - which is really just intended to help Obama's re-election campaign." |
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