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I'm pretty surprised by how big a Linsanity bubble NYC media can make. Now the bubble blows out.

11/4/2012 7:55:13 PM

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Really nice to see Kirilenko back terrorizing the league again. Amazing that he's still playing at such a high level at his age.

TWolves have got to be nervous about Brandon Roy though. He looks even worse than he did two years ago and they don't really have another option at SG until Rubio comes back and they can slide Ridnour over some. Perhaps, Budinger can play a little there...

Not sure why they didn't just go the safe route and grab someone like Brewer instead

11/4/2012 8:19:00 PM

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OKC falls to 1-2 on the heels of another "Westbrook being Westbrook" performance. The guy just doesn't have it, this is already his 2nd game of the season shooting below 30% FG (5-18, yikes!).

The Thunder's fade from relevance is just sad, I feel like they were the adopted team of so many casual NBA observers.

Imagine how awesome they'd be if they'd made a savvy move instead like trading Westbrook for a stone cold killer like Kyle Lowry. That dude is just sick.

The pressure is really going to build on RW, now that he doesn't have James Harden to rely on. I expect things to come to a head sometime this season as the losses mount and the media starts blaming Westbrook.

[Edited on November 4, 2012 at 9:21 PM. Reason : a]

11/4/2012 9:19:18 PM

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I just saw somebody post on facebook that JJ Redick is off to a great start this season

something like 23 points per game

11/4/2012 9:20:07 PM

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"savvy move instead like trading Westbrook for a stone cold killer like Kyle Lowry"

.... does the wolf web have an "ignore user" feature similar to pack pride? This guy simply doesn't stop.

11/5/2012 12:00:40 AM

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He's right.

Lowry Harden Durant is much sicker than Westbrook and Durant.

11/5/2012 12:55:51 AM

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^^ I never stop? I got trolled non stop last year for pointing out lowry is better than westbrook. People have a really hard time saying I was right.

In a few months people will change their argument and say "I'm just saying westbrook doesn't suck" when in reality they were claiming he was the best pg in the league or close to it.

We've been through this with Amare stoudamire, carmelo, derrick rose, and countless others.

People are so wrapped up in whatever ESPN force feeds them, that they will ignore facts and logic until a 30 lb nutsac hits them in the jaw.


Do you really want to make the argument that Russell westbrook is better than Kyle lowry???

Westbrook: 21.3 ppg, 6.0 reb, 6.7 ast, 0.00 stl, 0.00 blk, 3.3 to, 38% FG, 18% 3's, 78% ft

Lowry: 23.7 ppg, 7.3 reb, 7.0 ast, 3.67 stl, 0.33 blk, 3 to, 57.5% fg, 50% 3's, 94% ft.


Do those numbers even appear close to you? Lowry has an adjusted fg% of 68% compared to westbrook 40%

Lowry is taking EIGHT less shots a game and outscoring westbrook.

Westbrook just doesn't have it. He relies on his midrange jumper which misses A LOT, he can't shoot threes, and he has a turnover problem. His athleticism makes for nice highlights, but it hasn't turned him into a special basketball player.

11/5/2012 8:21:56 AM

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We're three games in.

11/5/2012 8:57:29 AM

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Yeah and there were 66 games last year. How many more games do we need, 500?

11/5/2012 10:18:40 AM

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i doubt Westbrook gets a single steal all season, based on his current stats

11/5/2012 1:58:15 PM

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If you get a chance tonight to watch kirilenko square off vs reggie Evans make sure you do it.

You never know how many more chances you'll get to watch these guys as they're getting up there in age

11/5/2012 1:58:23 PM

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Big Baby Davis and JJ Redick have emerged as one of the best one two punch in the NBA.

Redick is averaging 22points and 6 assists.
Baby is averaging 26 and 10.

The magic are undefeated with the top offense in the NBA.

11/5/2012 11:33:47 PM

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For the record, I was never in favor of trading Harden. Of course, Lowry + Harden + Durant is better than Westbrook + Durant. I'd rank them:

1. Westbrook Harden Durant
2. Lowry Harden Durant
3. Westbrook Durant
4. Lowry Durant

But that's not what bothered me. Lowry is not better than Westbrook. Lowry's off to a great start... but lets wait at least a month before we start discussing this.

Comparing the individual numbers (last year's numbers):

Lowry
14-7-5 while shooting a 40-37-86. Lowry averaged 2.8 TO's last year.

Westbrook:
24-6-5 while shooting 45-32-82... Westbrook averaged 3.6 TO's last year.

So Lowry tossed out an extra assist per game, turned the ball over less, shot 5% better from 3 and 4% better from the FT line. Westbrook averaged 10 more points and shot 5% better from the field. I think the slight drop off in shooting percentage is worth the extra 10 points per game, but that's just me.

Other reasons:

1. team success (Lowry's played in the playoffs once, exiting in the 2nd round)
2. durability (Lowry has played in a full 82 game season just once, hasn't been a full time starter any of the 6 season's he's been in the league... Westbrook has yet to miss a game due to injury)
3. longevity with teams (Lowry's been on 3 teams in 6 years, Westbrook only one)
4. Accolades (to be fair, Lowry won Western conference player of the week once, Westbrook is *takes deep breath* a two time all star, two time all-nba team member, gold medalist for 2012 london and 2010 turkey AND 3rd team PAC 10)

Now, you could say "I favor Lowry over Westbrook" or "Westbrook has more turnovers than a pastry shop"... but to say Lowry is better than Westbrook doesn't hold up.

11/5/2012 11:35:50 PM

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3rd team pac10

11/5/2012 11:39:39 PM

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watching NBA League Pass on Roku. this Cavs/Clips game has been super entertaining. Dion Waiters is a lot better than I expected. he and Irving make a pretty sick backcourt.

11/6/2012 12:47:16 AM

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I watched the first quarter of that game and it is ridiculous how good Kyrie is already. Keep in mind he can't even legally get a drink yet either.

11/6/2012 7:08:50 AM

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Kyrie is good, but CP taught the young fella a lesson

11/6/2012 9:21:19 AM

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He taught him a lesson by having a pick set on him?? I'm sure he didn't learn that in the two days he was at Duke...

11/6/2012 9:32:30 AM

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Gametime app is incredible on Xbox 360. No lag like on the Roku last year and only about :20 behind real time which is better than the MLB app.

11/7/2012 7:53:54 PM

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"Cavaliers C Tyler Zeller out indefinitely with concussion and broken cheekbone"

11/7/2012 11:49:53 PM

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also, the clippers look terrible again. only up by 20 on the spurs entering the 4th quarter.

11/8/2012 12:20:04 AM

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Harden had a shitty game.

11/8/2012 6:36:30 AM

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I'm just a humble guy with a big ass dick but fuck if I don't know this business . Pick up your skirt, grow some balls, and let's go make some money.

3-1 baby. Bank. Burger train pulling into bun station

He does this every Friday.

[Edited on November 8, 2012 at 1:29 PM. Reason : a]

11/8/2012 1:26:54 PM

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not gonna lie, I'm a big fan of this Laker implosion

might as well make Nash player/coach

11/9/2012 1:17:38 PM

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Brown is a trash coach anyway.

11/9/2012 1:26:37 PM

thegoodlife3
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definitely

he can thank Popovich and Duncan for both of his head coaching gigs

11/9/2012 1:36:34 PM

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Anybody got a decent brief synopsis of why the hell Brown insisted on running a "Princeton offense" with that starting 5?

11/9/2012 2:11:39 PM

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lol Mike Brown fired.

His coaching career will be defined as not being able to win a title with Lebron and Kobe...and being fired as failing miserably with Kobe, Dwight Howard, and Pau Gasol on your team.

I hope he saved up.

11/9/2012 2:50:13 PM

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Who will take his role? Is Phill Jackson possible?

11/9/2012 3:34:35 PM

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"Anybody got a decent brief synopsis of why the hell Brown insisted on running a "Princeton offense" with that starting 5?"


Only thing that makes sense is to pin it on Kobe for trying to make Steve Nash more of SG than a PG.

11/9/2012 3:42:50 PM

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Phil Jackson is trying to beat Billie Martins record for being hired the most by the same team

11/9/2012 5:47:59 PM

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-berger/20904962/no-shortage-of-obvious-candidates-to-replace-mike-brown-as-lakers-coach

LOL they should totally go get Stan Van

11/9/2012 6:14:56 PM

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11/9/2012 6:20:11 PM

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Hey, did you guys hear that the Lakers fired their coach?

11/10/2012 1:43:06 AM

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"i could see the Pistons surprising a lot of people."


0-7.

11/11/2012 9:03:57 PM

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i was very, very wrong

no big deal

one of the beauties of Sport is that it provides actual surprise

the Pistons sucking cock isn't anything like the Jets upsetting the Colts in Superbowl III, but an underlying, unifying principle therein lies (or lays?)

or as they say, that's why we play the game

(note: Josh McRoberts is no stud, basketball-wise at least)

11/11/2012 9:48:48 PM

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actually mcroberts is playing pretty well. Coach just needs to wake up and bench big baby, he's a total disaster out there.

11/11/2012 10:36:01 PM

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D'antoni to the lakers.

Good hire, he's no Phil but Phil may just be a little too old for a full season of travel.

This lakers squad has some similarities to the suns teams. Nash, athletic big man for the pick and roll, scoring 2 guard, no bench. I could see the lakers winning a title with d'antoni not killing them like brown was.

Kobe has played really well so far this season. He's like the anti westbrook...

11/12/2012 8:21:24 AM

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it's strange seeing kobe play so well after being downright horrible the last 5-7 years

11/12/2012 8:46:19 AM

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^ agreed that its unexpected. It could be that he's healthier but its a small sample size so we will have to wait and see.

Twolves another huge blow. Budinger out 2 months with torn meniscus. Already missing Rubio and love. And barea and Roy aren't playing tonight either, Wtf

11/12/2012 12:25:58 PM

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"This lakers squad has some similarities to the suns teams."


Dantoni style 7 seconds or less basketball is pretty 3 pt shot dependent and the Lakers are woefully short on shooters

perhaps Jodie Meeks gets his stroke his back

too bad LA didn't sign Barbosa. dude still has gas in his tank and could have flourished once again under Dantoni

what do you guys think about the Lakers benching World Peace for Ebanks? Metta is still a ball stopper who consistently makes bad decisions and he's no dominant defender. he's a drain on the starting lineup, but could possibly improve the second unit.

11/12/2012 1:16:50 PM

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He had a bounce back year last year, but I agree they woulda been better off with Barnes. A shooter makes them lethal offensively.

11/12/2012 2:16:46 PM

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Why does Phil Jackson retire if he wants to coach? I realize he probably likes time off...but seriously man...retire or coach!

He really isn't that old.

[Edited on November 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM. Reason : fasdfg]

11/12/2012 2:36:20 PM

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he could barely stand/walk by the end of his last season

11/12/2012 2:37:32 PM

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He retired so that when other teams come calling again, he can request to be the highest paid person on the team & have a gang of midgets that carry him around on a throne at all times

[Edited on November 12, 2012 at 2:39 PM. Reason : S]

11/12/2012 2:39:01 PM

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^^,^good reasons and I didn't realize he had any health issues...i don't watch a ton of nba besides highlights....i rest my case and will let you all proceed





[Edited on November 12, 2012 at 2:54 PM. Reason : asdf]

11/12/2012 2:53:22 PM

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also, Jackson likes to coach once there's an available team with the most talent in the league

potential trade: Lakers trade Gasol to the Hornets for Ryan Anderson, Aminu, Xavier Henry, and Hakim Warrick (trying to make the salaries work)

LA gets more shooting and more athletic and New Orleans gets the most offensively skilled big in the League to pair with Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon

11/12/2012 2:59:55 PM

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I wouldn't give up either Aminu or Anderson straight up for Gasol.

Gasol's play has been slipping and Aminu is killing it this year. Anderson is already proven.

11/12/2012 10:07:42 PM

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Last year I traded Chauncey Billups for Pau Gasol. Is that acceptable all knowing face?

11/12/2012 10:40:19 PM

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Westbrook just had a great game leading the Thunder past the Pistons (leading team in points, rebounds, and assists).

Harden stunk it up against the Heat (what's new).

Scales starting to balance out.

11/12/2012 11:52:35 PM

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