tchenku midshipman 18598 Posts user info edit post |
my comment from page 2
Quote : | ""help" the brake-checking rider who did not drop his bike and was perfectly fine? OK..." |
10/8/2013 10:59:19 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42557 Posts user info edit post |
^ Was it known at the time that the brake checker didnt get knocked to the ground? I didn't know it till now, but like you, as soon as the family was saying that Mieses was only helping his friend off the ground when Mieses got run over, I smelled bullshit and posted this like a day after it happened:
Quote : | "This pages says the truth is that the purple shirt guy got off his bike only to help the white shirt one who got lightly bumped. And then he got run over. I don't understand, if he got run over, how come the white shirt guy didnt also get plowed over? That means the white shirt guy had been moved out of the car's path. If so, why was the purple shirt guy still in front of the car?" |
10/8/2013 11:10:11 PM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
I read another article where helmet-cam guy's lawyer said his client is "panicked" and has been getting death threats. My guess is it could be bikers and/or their family and friends. Possibly some police officers? 10/9/2013 1:20:35 PM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
I'm Krallum and I approved this message.
[Edited on October 9, 2013 at 1:22 PM. Reason : actually I don't care] 10/9/2013 1:21:53 PM |
Bullet All American 28553 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah, it's hard to understand why the moron decided to post it on youtube
[Edited on October 9, 2013 at 1:22 PM. Reason : ^entertainment. and we've all seen groups of bikers like these.] 10/9/2013 1:22:03 PM |
Jader All American 2869 Posts user info edit post |
Damn so there were cops there that just watched the entire thing and even participated
Thought this was interesting.
“As a trucker that would deliver in north jersey and New York I am familiar with these groups. I can hopefully clarify a few things. First the initial “accident” is part of a game they play. They ride in a huge group and will operate together to slow down traffic.
Next they pick out high end vehicles targeting people with families in them, the targets will usually be white or Asian. Then one of the riders will do a “brake check” and stop suddenly in front of the target vehicle causing a minor bump. In some cases they will just roll back into their target vehicle. They will then mob the vehicle demanding money and or begin attacking the person inside. It is their practice to also slash the tires to prevent the vehicle from escaping.
Truckers are well aware of them and are advised not to stop. You can clearly see in the video how they are well practiced in this style of attack. The police in NY have backed off them after an officer ran one down using his vehicle a few months back. The video was all over the net so I advise you to check it out.
These “bikers” ride dirt bikes and sport bikes very few of which are street legal and even fewer have plates. They run red lights, stop signs, and have no regard for the law. If you are ever in this situation do not stop, immediately call the police and do whatever you have to to keep them from boxing you in. NEVER leave the scene of an accident if you are not under direct threat!!! Only run if you have no other choice, and again immediately call the police.
This is not rare by any means, the only reason this incident got any attention is because of the helmet cam video being posted on the net. If you see anyone in this situation, call the police.
Make no mistake confusing these punks with true bikers. You will rarely if ever see a member of these gangs on a Harley. Do not for a minute blame true bikers for this kind of behavior. Bikers like those involved in the 2 million Bikers to DC Rally are American Patriots and would be among the first to come to your aid.
A final note, always be aware of motorcycles and share the road. Check your mirrors and don’t ride anyone’s bumper, motorcycles have a much smaller profile then a car and are harder to see.”
[Edited on October 9, 2013 at 2:37 PM. Reason : Werds] 10/9/2013 2:35:05 PM |
tchenku midshipman 18598 Posts user info edit post |
that trucker story is also attributed to one Michael Xavier Kaulbach on Google
possibly fake
[Edited on October 9, 2013 at 10:50 PM. Reason : ] 10/9/2013 10:50:36 PM |
beatsunc All American 10768 Posts user info edit post |
theyre baaack
at least nobody got hurt this time
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/24438546/illegal-bikers-terrorize-manhattan-neighborhood 1/13/2014 6:43:44 PM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I read somewhere that is a hoax. 1/13/2014 7:14:22 PM |
Mtan Man214 All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
Here's the update from Dec 23 on the trial for the 11 guys charged in the beating. http://nypost.com/2013/12/22/biker-gang-victim-speechless-over-attackers-reduced-charges/
The charges are rumored to be reduced for 10 of them since the victims facial scars are healing well enough and won't be permanent. They go to trial at the end of February. 1/13/2014 7:50:02 PM |
qntmfred retired 40928 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/new-york-bikers-attack-suv-man-intends-to-sue-new-york-over-attack 1/19/2014 12:38:50 AM |
beatsunc All American 10768 Posts user info edit post |
^interesting
you would think he would sue the punks that kicked his ass but i guess they dont have any moneys 1/19/2014 6:09:17 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35780 Posts user info edit post |
http://abcnews.go.com/US/biker-attack-911-calls-give-glimpse-terrifying-nyc/story?id=31173853 5/21/2015 10:13:53 AM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
According to the background, his wife threw a half eaten plum and a water bottle at them.
Instigator? Possibly. 5/21/2015 10:44:24 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
The undercover cop is facing 5 to 25 years for gang assualt? Wtf was he supposed to do?
Uniform officers that saw it should have done something, but not the undercover guy.
[Edited on May 21, 2015 at 11:26 AM. Reason : .] 5/21/2015 11:25:28 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
^being undercover doesn't mean you get to get away with curb stomping someone
^^oh i see you're falling for that line bikers are trying to spread recently. they were already being harassed when she threw the fruit. she threw the bottle after they had already broken their side view mirror 5/21/2015 11:31:27 AM |
PaulISdead All American 8838 Posts user info edit post |
I really hate the callousness of the 911 dispatcher 5/21/2015 2:18:24 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Paralyzed guy trying to sue:
5/21/2015 2:18:52 PM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
lol negroe please 5/21/2015 7:20:41 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
1. ? A bunch of motorcycles on the road is not a "traffic nightmare." I don't care what you drive--slow down when the bikers wanna do their obnoxious biker thing. I do the same for cyclists, dog enthusiasts, and drunken caravans.
2. If you're gonna tap a biker on the road and then run over a human being while you try to "escape," don't drive to a destination where you'll inevitably hit stopped traffic. Stay on the highway if necessary.
I realize that everybody in the world supports this family "WITH A BABY IN THE CAR!!!! " But I think the guy who tapped that biker (and then fucking ran over somebody) is a worthless, bullshit driver who should never be allowed to drive a car again...let alone a giant SUV.
Also, his wife shouldn't speak words. Ever. Cut her tongue off. 5/21/2015 7:49:35 PM |
afripino All American 11451 Posts user info edit post |
If I were the defense attorney for the bikers, I think my opening statement would go like this...
Two words....
Asian
Driver
That is all. 5/21/2015 8:27:06 PM |
FuhCtious All American 11955 Posts user info edit post |
Bridget, the biker that he "tapped" was slowing down intentionally to obstruct the vehicle. Watch the full video and you can see that. As for running one of the bikers over, while it's unfortunate, when there are a bunch of bikers crowding around and banging on your vehicle, would you just stay put? 5/21/2015 9:14:20 PM |
tchenku midshipman 18598 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you're gonna tap a biker on the road and then run over a human being while you try to "escape,"..." |
brake check happens within the first 30 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVK77U8bgKc
the beatdown was going to happen right then and there; I'm pretty sure they weren't going to be satisfied with looking through the windows and mean-mugging the occupants
Quote : | "The undercover cop is facing 5 to 25 years for gang assualt?" |
Is he even on trial? The video doesn't specifically mention that.5/21/2015 9:25:47 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2269 Posts user info edit post |
Driving out of there was an act of self defense and protection of his family. They threatened him before he hit the gas to escape. In fact when they got him traffic and beat him use of deadly force would have been justified. He had every right to run over more of them (and he probably should have given they were pretty much going to kill him if nobody intervened). 5/21/2015 11:23:04 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42557 Posts user info edit post |
Ignore BridgetSPK, she very recently wished death on some TWW couples' children or unborn children.
And she has a drank problem, and has admitted not knowing what she types because of that. 5/22/2015 12:14:36 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I'm aware that they do this intentionally. That's why you slow down to let them pass or speed up to avoid them.
Pretty simple stuff. 5/22/2015 1:21:57 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pretty simple stuff." |
...until you're driving a vehicle being accosted by these assholes5/22/2015 1:23:36 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But I think the guy who tapped that biker (and then fucking ran over somebody) is a worthless, bullshit driver who should never be allowed to drive a car again...let alone a giant SUV." |
I don't see how anyone can defend the bikers. The worst thing you can accuse the SUV driver of is holding his ground. Just because there are a bunch of jobless clown assholes driving like morons doesn't mean the rest of traffic has to accommodate them. Just because you're an asshole on a bike doesn't mean you have the right of way. In nature, mass determines who has the actual right of way. SUVs are bigger than bikes. Justice was served.5/22/2015 1:43:08 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
BridgetSPK is trolling right? nobody's actually that stupid, right? 5/22/2015 1:44:35 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^I'm definitely not defending the bikers.
But I am opposing your attitude, that because someone is an obnoxious menace, you should "hold your ground" and let nature serve up "justice."
The biker cut him off, I'm sure, and all the other guys are riding like five to a lane, which is totally illegal. So, yeah, if you want to...then hold your ground, bump a kid on a bike, start a melee that ends with you having to plow over people. You're totally justified.
But, to me, being justified is not the same thing as being right (or moral). The right thing to do is to conduct yourself in a way that prevents accidents/altercations. And I'd like to think other drivers/riders understand that fact.
We can't all be idiot babies, holding our ground with two-ton cars ready to serve up justice to lame assholes. Or maybe you can, but you probably shouldn't do it with your wife and kid in the car, and you should definitely be prepared for a fight...cause they feel equally justified. 5/22/2015 5:07:51 PM |
BubbleBobble BLACK HITLER 114584 Posts user info edit post |
I woulda hit one of them little bitches
(to minka)
like fucking seriously
I woulda just fucking hit them and kept going if they were doing some bullshit with their retarded-ass bikes 5/23/2015 8:49:45 PM |
BubbleBobble BLACK HITLER 114584 Posts user info edit post |
oh ok never mind apparently that was in 2013
:3333 5/23/2015 8:50:10 PM |
Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
if my children were in the car and bikers were threatening me, i would run over as many of them as it took to get my family to safety. 5/24/2015 12:12:16 AM |
GrimReap3r All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " The biker cut him off, I'm sure, and all the other guys are riding like five to a lane, which is totally illegal. So, yeah, if you want to...then hold your ground, bump a kid on a bike, start a melee that ends with you having to plow over people. You're totally justified." |
5/24/2015 1:16:23 AM |