The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Wornholes might not even be possible. If you could make a wor.hole wherever you wanted why would you go through all that trouble instead of just fixing the earth?
I know they had to do it or youd have no movie. 4/5/2015 6:00:48 PM |
ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
Saw this at Redbox and got Whiplash instead. Christopher Nolan is so low bro. 4/5/2015 6:14:06 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^That was a minor problem compared to the fact that the nitrogen content in the atmosphere was going to reach the point where humans could no longer breathe it. " |
Right, but moving humanity into the vacuum of space doesn't really help them breathe. Earth with no air and food is still more hospitable than space, or some random planet.
Thinking about the movie though the plan was actually for humanity to die on Earth and for a population bomb to go to one of the planets... I'm assuming they were just hoping the planet would have air, water, and food?4/9/2015 11:07:22 AM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
My question is why the wormhole had to lead to another galaxy and to the vicinity of a massive black hole? There are plenty of potential worlds at much closer ranges to put it mildly within our own Milky Way. Kepler 186f is in the habitable zone and is potentially Earth like. I loved the movie, but I think it would have been more believable if they used exoplanets within our neighborhood. Of course without the black hole you do lose the drama of the time dilation etc. It would have to become an entirely different storyline. 4/9/2015 3:38:01 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
^ well remember the whole premise took a turn towards the end when Nolan basically infers that the worm hole was placed by humans in the future who have found a way to enter the 5th dimension. Maybe they realized that the only planet they can survive on is Edmunds?
[Edited on April 9, 2015 at 3:58 PM. Reason : ..] 4/9/2015 3:58:19 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My question is why the wormhole had to lead to another galaxy and to the vicinity of a massive black hole? There are plenty of potential worlds at much closer ranges to put it mildly within our own Milky Way. Kepler 186f is in the habitable zone and is potentially Earth like. I loved the movie, but I think it would have been more believable if they used exoplanets within our neighborhood. Of course without the black hole you do lose the drama of the time dilation etc. It would have to become an entirely different storyline." |
Well with a wormhole concept distance and proximity is irrelevant. The black hole being gigantic is necessary for the plot because that means you can pass the event horizon before getting spaghettified, or so Carl Sagan/Morgan Freeman/Michu kaka have told me on TV.
If there's one supermassive black hole in every Galaxy, maybe the one they traveled to was very rare because it had a neutron star orbiting it and planets that would allow life. So they would be tempted to explore close enough to a giant black hole and then magically transcend to 5 dimensions idk4/9/2015 8:12:48 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the worm hole was placed by humans in the future who have found a way to enter the 5th dimension. Maybe they realized that the only planet they can survive on is Edmunds?" |
They can do all this but they can't just help us with the blight?4/9/2015 10:02:20 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
But then you wouldn't have the epic lift off sequence, the epic wave planet, the epic docking scene, and Matt Damon being a giant douche.
You would just have Matthew being a farmer.
As ridiculous as the movie got towards the end I think as a work of art it was terrific. Acting was good and the visuals were amazing. Plus who doesn't want to watch interstellar travel on a huge imax screen? I enjoyed it for its entertainment value, not its scientific plausibility. 4/10/2015 2:04:59 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
The scene with the big ass wave gives me chills every time. 4/19/2015 9:14:56 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Picked this up tonight on Redbox. Great movie! We just did a major upgrade on a large auditorium at work, including a 3D capable projector and brand new sound system. So now I basically have a giant movie theater I can access at any time. Thinking this might be the first movie I test out! 7/25/2015 11:49:57 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Re-watching this movie just makes me pissed I don't own an IMAX theatre. Anything with Nolan and Zimmer is made for IMAX. 7/27/2015 1:22:31 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Big ass projector and a nice sound setup will get you a decent viewing experience in your house. Obviously nothing compared to a true 70mm IMAX theater. 7/27/2015 2:02:52 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
How did Brand Jr land on planet Edmonds? Didn't Cooper take the only vehicle that would land on a planet into the black hole with him?
For the physics people out there, how possible are wormholes? 11/10/2015 4:22:53 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How did Brand Jr land on planet Edmonds? Didn't Cooper take the only vehicle that would land on a planet into the black hole with him?" |
That is true, they dropped 2 rangers into the black hole. Perhaps Edmonds had a similar set up in orbit around his planet with a robot that could make Brand's landing possible? The other good critique I heard was how Cooper leaves Miller's 130% gravity planet without a multistage rocket, despite apparently needing one leaving Earth.
Quote : | "For the physics people out there, how possible are wormholes?" |
According to the ultra nerds, wormholes are possible mathematically, whatever the fuck that means.11/10/2015 5:32:31 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
I thought it was a great movie. The only big thing I didn't like was the explanation for the 5th dimensional thing in the black hole. "We evolved past 3 dimensions and built it."
And how he was able to survive so long in just his suit. Or do we just have to accept that time is messed up inside a black hole. 11/10/2015 7:49:47 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "how possible are wormholes?"" |
wormholes are possible but
1. they are not natural and don't just "conveniently open up".
2. Traveling through wormholes without being ripped apart would probably be impossible
3. if we advanced so much to the point where we had the technology to do 1 and 2, we would have easier solutions for the problems in the premise of the movie.11/11/2015 9:56:51 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I know that 100 years ago people would have said you were crazy if you said you could pull a small object out of your pocket and talk to someone on the other side of the planet without any wires. However, it just seems unimaginable that we will ever have the capability or resources to go anywhere outside of the solar system. I suppose at some point maybe we will have a station on the moon or on mars, but just the logistics and shear distance of traveling further than that seems nearly impossible to overcome. 11/11/2015 10:28:55 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
But if we could build an inhabitable station on Mars, then eventually maybe we could find other structures out there that could sustain a habitat, and essentially "island hop" our way out of our solar system. 11/11/2015 11:10:45 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
That would be fine if it wasn't hop to that rock, hop to that rock, hop to that rock, now hop over the pacific... that's the big problem 11/11/2015 12:30:08 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
We can make the ~100 year trip once technology allows us to build ships that can travel at high speeds without destroying themselves. 11/11/2015 10:56:24 PM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62451 Posts user info edit post |
NASA has proven mathematically that warp drive is possible
but they aren't calling it that
so we are probably 100 years or so away from actually going to another solar system 11/12/2015 4:30:29 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
So now only 4.3 years to get to the closest solar system instead of 30,000. 11/12/2015 4:33:15 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
i'm betting the most feasible way for people to travel to other solar systems within their lifetimes involve some sort of intense (and possibly destructive) scanning procedure to map out all of the molecules within the person's body. Then that data would be transmitted via some sort of focused EM signal to the target solar system. Then it would be received and fed into a 3-d printer capable of molecular resolution with no limit on types of materials. and then immediate medical attention to jump start the printed out thing. 11/14/2015 8:45:22 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
thats much less realistic than freezing embryos and then having robots grow them in artificial uterus and raise them. 11/14/2015 10:47:55 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
How many people would we need to put on a ship to keep the gene pool diverse enough? Would 200 do it? 500? I guess if we could build a vessel large enough were we could grow food, and continuously procreate and raise children on it...that would be feasible.
We'll call the ship The Lost Colony II 11/15/2015 9:02:21 AM |
umop-apisdn Snaaaaaake 4549 Posts user info edit post |
From a biological perspective, it would take a founding group of a minimum of 50 to avoid genetic bottlenecks. More would obviously offer more security. 11/15/2015 3:10:29 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
well yes, frozen human embryos would in theory be more realistic, but i was trying to brainstorm ways to get an actual human that is alive and already has memories to another star system and still be alive when he/she arrives.
the other way i can think of is when the technology to upload the human consciousness to a computer... the data could be sent that way and artificial bio-organisms could be designed to accept the data and act as a surrogate body... we could call them "avatars" or something catchy like that. 11/15/2015 5:37:40 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Traveling through wormholes without being ripped apart would probably be impossible" |
This is where things got a little out of hand for me, with just a very basic knowledge of space/physics.
Black holes completely destroy everything down to the most basic energy I was led to believe...I guess we have to trust "they" figured that out, yet Romi already knew about it, when he mentioned the black hole was "slow/old"
I can see how Space travel/time would be possible...If we can figure out how to revive humans that are frozen.
Then you could "sleep" for millions of years and "wake up" not having aged for years...is that correct?
I just took the whole post-black hole portion as fantasy...Or maybe even that he actually died in Space and that this was the notion of Matt Damon talking about his love and children being the last thing he saw when he was dying.12/27/2015 4:34:50 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
The Romily statement about "gentle giant" implied the blackhole was so large that you could pass the event horizon before being spaghettified because the large size allowed a more gradual increase in gravity.
The entire post-blackhole thing is fantasy since it is a paradox but you can't disprove it I guess since none of the nerds know what a blackhole really is. 12/28/2015 12:40:31 AM |