There must have been serious breakdowns if he purchased these guns legally, considering he had been seeing a therapist for years and years.

If true, Someone is going to have to answer to that

5/26/2014 12:38:05 AM

Pretty sure that seeing a therapist will not show up on any sort of record, unless you are forced to do so by a court or something.

5/26/2014 12:41:32 AM

i think he was being sarcastic about the lack of gun laws

5/26/2014 12:42:59 AM

Dude is not bad looking, and from that one video I saw, he seems gentle/nice/not an asshole (aside from the "I will kill you all"s, obviously, talking about general demeanor), so why exactly was he not able to attract a girl? Too much of a nice guy and not assertive enough? Don't girls like rich, posh, pretty boys?

5/26/2014 12:56:49 AM

Did you seriously watch his videos? There was something quite off about him that would trouble any male or female who interacted with him without knowing his situation.

[Edited on May 26, 2014 at 1:05 AM. Reason : ]

5/26/2014 1:03:54 AM

Wait a second. Do all of you have Asperger's?

5/26/2014 1:06:27 AM

It is really easy these days to build a wall between you and society with his kinda money and the technology err have access to nowadays.... He probably helped nurtured his antisocial behaviors by blaming it on other people. Coupled with a condition that ostricizes the mental state of an individual (media talking about his aspergers) probably didn't help him make any real connections in life. And because of his status and money I guess he had easy access to weapons of his choosing

5/26/2014 1:12:09 AM

Big surprise 0EP is empathizing with a mass murderer

5/26/2014 1:17:04 AM

LOL I am not empathizing with him... if he were alive, I would say give him the death penalty!

Bridget, I only watched the video in the OP, and that also, about half of it. Yeah, there was definitely something off/fishy about him, but I mean he didn't come off as some asshole jock/neanderthal, neither as an awkward geek who can't speak, etc.

Obviously, I only watched him for a few minutes, and that too, alone. I have no idea how he was in social situations, and especially around women.

5/26/2014 1:32:55 AM

LOL, you and this E-man fellow are blowing my mind. Please stop.

5/26/2014 1:41:14 AM

[Edited on May 26, 2014 at 1:42 AM. Reason : ]

5/26/2014 1:41:49 AM

Here's an interview with the shooter's neighbor. Sounds like the kid was either antisocial, didn't like his neighbor, or both. The neighbor says there were plenty of opportunities for the guy to come over and meet women, but he never came out. I would also like to know more about last summer when he had "the crap kicked out of him". Haven't heard anything about that.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/crime/2014/05/25/nr-sidner-elliot-rodger-neighbor-talks.cnn.html?

[Edited on May 26, 2014 at 2:24 AM. Reason : Nevermind, found out from the Wikipedia article ]

5/26/2014 2:09:37 AM

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"you're out the game so probably don't get a chance to see this as much."

When I first moved here I went into IV a few times because I was told that's where all the fun happens. Then I realized it was all people who didn't know how to enjoy themselves without being drunk or high, and it isn't a real party unless a riot breaks out.

If my girlfriend didn't live on El Colegio (and she won't next year, thankfully), I would never set foot in IV.

At least this rampage didn't happen during Deltopia. That would have created at least 100 bodies.

[Edited on May 26, 2014 at 2:37 AM. Reason : -]

5/26/2014 2:37:00 AM

Our dear æ is down, but its Twitter feed still brings the lulz: https://twitter.com/ED_Updates

5/26/2014 3:04:35 AM

what score will they give the one that goes on a rampage against transgenders?

5/26/2014 8:15:07 AM

Columbine, VT, Sandy Hook, Aurora, Norway, Isla Vista





[Edited on May 26, 2014 at 8:31 AM. Reason : figured out who they all were]

5/26/2014 8:27:29 AM

Breivik, the 2011 Norwegian guy that ran around a youth camp island up there shooting at people.

[Edited on May 26, 2014 at 8:33 AM. Reason : .]

5/26/2014 8:30:30 AM

Isla Vista was a suicide, +10

5/26/2014 8:32:49 AM

last thing I read said Isla Vista guy killed himself, are they saying it was the police now?

5/26/2014 8:33:22 AM

Misogyny combined with severe mental illness led to this. Apparently his parents were desperately trying to find him as the shootings occurred. In a previous incident where police were called, not enough evidence was present to have him involuntarily hospitalized.

5/26/2014 10:27:33 AM

5/26/2014 10:35:19 AM

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"I would also like to know more about last summer when he had "the crap kicked out of him". Haven't heard anything about that."

Page 121 of the manifesto tells the story.

5/26/2014 11:07:00 AM

What a jackass


And because no one reads the 49th post:

5/26/2014 11:21:29 AM

sick in the head, me me me complex while also believing that he deserves to get whatever he wants. Parents deserve some of the blame. Maybe make this kid earn what he gets instead of buying him a bmw. Maybe get him some real help instead of just going to see the therapist every now and again.

5/26/2014 12:06:15 PM

^^Both read and appreciated!

5/26/2014 12:15:48 PM

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"Dude is not bad looking, and from that one video I saw, he seems gentle/nice/not an asshole"

how could you tell, did you sniff his drawers you sick fuck?

5/26/2014 1:07:09 PM

no, he fucked you in the video, and he was the supreme gentleman while doing so.

5/26/2014 1:41:36 PM

The columbine kids were not bullied.

Read my prior posts, I dispel those BS myths.

5/26/2014 2:18:50 PM

Do we get serial killers anymore or are spree killings the way to do it?

5/26/2014 2:20:58 PM

serial killing requires intelligence and extreme planning

people now are dumb and have an "i want it now" mentality

hence the spree killings

[Edited on May 26, 2014 at 2:25 PM. Reason : you are very smart, mr joshua, you could be an excellent serial killer ]

5/26/2014 2:24:41 PM

For those that missed it, some highlights I wrote on page 2-3 regarding the "bully" myth of mass shooters. I have studied and researched this topic for a long time. I deal with mentally ill people on a daily basis. I am not just talking out of my ass

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"Oh......and I have to address the elephant. Bullying. Contrary to popular belief, most school shooters were not bullied. At least not any more than any other kid growing up in school. Being called a name, or being made fun of occasionally does not equate extreme bullying as the media would have you believe. A lot of shooters were actually seen as the bullies by their peers. Or, they acted out such an extreme manner that it brought disapproval by their peers. This is very true of Eric Harris, who would shout nazi crap in school. Getting picked on for acting like a dick does not really equate to bullying."

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"The reason there are SO many myths, half truths, and false information about these types of mass shooting events is quite simple. In a 24 hour news cycle, the media will flood a scene and begin reporting instantly. Right off the bat during the fog of war, misinformation and speculation are put out over the airwaves. Usually the initial reports are totally wrong. Witness accounts are usually wrong. Interviews are taken as fact "oh yeah, i knew the shooter, he was picked on" "he was a goth kid" "he was a fag" "he was an outcast". This becomes fact in the public mind. To fill the news cycle, talking heads speculate about video games, gun control, bullying, the psychological makeup of the shooter, etc. After a few weeks, the media circus leaves town and the story fades. It is usually years before the investigations are done and the true facts are released. The media does not cover this, and the myths have already taken hold. I read the Columbine final report, it disproved pretty much EVERY myth about Columbine. I read the Sandy Hook final report, same thing. Sometimes a little critical thinking and research is needed before assuming something. "

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"I would like to touch on another myth of the school or even work place mass shooter...They were pushed and bullied and they just one day SNAPPED. This could not be further from the truth. In fact in all my research I did not find one incident that could be chalked up to "snapping". For the purpose of this piece, I define "snapping" as basically an unplanned spontaneous decision to act out violently. Little to no premeditation. What kills me the most about the so called analysis of mass shooters by the media talking heads, is how little they actually know and how far up their asses their heads are. It is ALWAYS a search for easy answers and simple reasons to blame. Guns, bullying, teasing, video games, family, music, Marilyn Manson. etc. Even when they occasionally get it right, they never delve deeper into it. "How did this normal kid snap and do this?" they ask... The simple fucking answer is that THESE ARE NOT NORMAL PEOPLE. Mass shooters are NOT normal, normal people very seldom do this kind of thing. The overwhelming majority of shooters are deeply disturbed mentally ill people. The most common category is Psychotic shooters, ones who were diagnosed or displayed various psychotic traits. These people did not snap. Every normal person growing up in school has faced some difficulty. We were all called names at some point, or picked on by an older or bigger kid. We all faced rejection at some point growing up, we all felt awkward or like we didn't fit it. It is a normal part of growing up. To millions of well adjusted kids, they deal with it, get over it, and handle it without going on a mass rampage. But, to a non-well adjusted kid with some kind of metal illness, these common stresses are multiplied. Even to a psychotic kid who has friends and is well liked (Dylan Klebold, had friends, girlfriends, played sports, went to prom etc), they still perceive that they are hated and don't fit in. They can perceive that everyone is having more fun, or other guys do better with girls. In their head, they feel much more outcasted than they often are. They feel alienated and picked on, even if it is not really the case. To a very very disturbed psychotic (Adam Lanza, Seung-Hui Cho), they are already not well adjusted and have poor social skills. They don't fit in from the start, but then see every slight, joke or failure against them as exponentially worse than a normal person. Yes kids can be cruel, and can pick on them for the lack of social skills, but these slights are multiplied by the extreme. When you factor in schizotypal traits like delusions, paranoid delusions, conspiracies against them, god complexes, depression etc, than these slights or bullying becomes toxic. It is not bullying alone, it is a tragic combination of factors in the wrong person that can build to a plot. When you add in the culture script of a mass school shooting, now these kids have a path to follow. They have a way to right their perceived wrongs and lash out at their perceived oppressors. They have a way to feel violent, masculine and powerful, after feeling marginalized. Its sad, but this is the truth. Anyone trying to pass off a mass shooting (that isn't terrorist or political in motivation) as an easy answer is a moron. It is a multi faceted combination of elements in the right person and circumstance that can lead to tragedy. "

---Id also like to point out that all of my info in this thread is based on my knowledge n research, I have Googled or Wikipediaed NOTHING.---

5/26/2014 2:34:30 PM

Gold star?

5/26/2014 3:08:44 PM

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"0EPII1: serial killing requires intelligence and extreme planning"

I disagree. A lot of times they're just itinerant delinquents with no impulse control. They kill with very little planning--often as an afterthought to rape or robbery. If they don't get caught, it's because they move around so much and/or their victims rarely have real advocates.

Don't fuck with hobos yo.

5/26/2014 3:21:55 PM

This thread is some of [user]red baronn 22[/user]'s finest work. It's right up there with his criticism of the movie Red Tails in the Entertainment section of TWW.

5/26/2014 3:35:49 PM

I actually read some of his 144 page manifesto last night

He seemed to really go off the deep end when his younger sister (4 years younger than him) got a boyfriend and lost her virginity to him. Said that it wasn't fair that she would get to do experience things that he hasn't gotten the chance to do yet. Her boyfriend was Mexican and Rodger was very angered that his sister would date somebody who he considered to be beneath them.

In my reading of his manifesto, I never saw any mention of being bullied. By his own admission, he had close friends in middle school and high school. Would get together and hang out, play video games, go out to eat, etc.

But after graduation is when things changed. His friends went away to college and had the college experience that he wanted for himself...partying, sex, etc

[Edited on May 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM. Reason : f]

5/26/2014 3:50:36 PM

Why thank you TreeTwista

I present this simple question:

If the Columbine killers, Eric and Dylan, were so brutally picked on by jocks and cool kids, why did they not target or kill a single one of their oppressors? Why did they plan on killing EVERYONE indiscriminately?

Extreme Nutshell Answer: Eric Harris was a deeply psychopathic kid. He had a superiority complex, he was highly intelligent, and felt that everyone else was inferior. He hated the world and mankind, not just the school. He wanted to kill all those he deemed inferior. He wanted the power, control, the excitement, and the fun of enacting his world view on those he deemed inferior. He lacked empathy and compassion, he was a pathological liar, he did not care about the impact he would have on others. Planning and executing a massacre gave him the SAME level of excitement (power, superiority, control) that a psychopathic serial killer obtains by stalking and killing. Eric Harris was a text book psycho.

Dylan Klebold had psychotic traits. He suffered severe depression, severe low self esteem, shyness, and avoidant personality disorder. Despite actually being intelligent and well liked in his social circle, he perceived that he was a miserable failure. He spent his whole time in high school contemplating his death and suicide. He latched on to his best friend Erics world view, and was manipulated by him. He feared losing his best friend, and went along with it. All the reports during the shooting claim the Dylan was constantly being egged on by Eric, seemed more hesitant, and Dylan often showed mercy by sparing lives.

Eric, the psycho, was having the time of his life. Taunting, mocking, playing God. They did not target anyone specific, it was indiscriminate.

The bully myth of Columbine came out in the aftermath, in the fog of war and search for EASY ANSWERS. Hint, there ARE NO EASY ANSWERS. All of these incidents require more research and analysis than just a soundbite easy answer. Hell, even if a shooter WAS bullied, its dishonest to say "well he was bullied, case closed"



---Id also like to point out that all of my info in this thread is based on my knowledge n research, I have Googled or Wikipediaed NOTHING.---

[Edited on May 26, 2014 at 5:23 PM. Reason : .]

5/26/2014 5:05:56 PM

So as a final insult, Rodgers was banging on a sorority house door so he could kill the women inside.....and they denied him acceptance, again.

And he died a virgin.


lolololol, even ReceiveDeath gets some tang every now and then

5/26/2014 5:16:27 PM

I think we should start defiling the corpses of spree shooters like this. I'm talking "shoving a monkey up their asshole, dogs tearing them apart, heads on pikes" kind of defiling. Not for any sick pleasure of retribution, but to let others know what the hell will happen to them after they take the easy way out.

5/26/2014 5:28:28 PM

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"---Id also like to point out that all of my info in this thread is based on my knowledge n research, I have Googled or Wikipediaed NOTHING.---"

oh word?

5/26/2014 5:30:53 PM

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"Not for any sick pleasure of retribution, but to let others know what the hell will happen to them after they take the easy way out."

'

Pretty sure you can't feel any of those actions when you deaded.

5/26/2014 5:38:08 PM

Well, duh. But these guys think they are going down in a blaze of glory and will be idolized. Seeing a fucker having a monkey shoved up his ass might get the point across that he's not being idolized.

5/26/2014 5:46:10 PM

...or it might bring the beastiality-necrophiliacs out of the woodwork

5/26/2014 5:49:44 PM

EMCE, you can get that action without killing lots of people, so don't even think about it o_O

5/26/2014 5:50:32 PM

5/26/2014 5:51:58 PM

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"So as a final insult, Rodgers was banging on a sorority house door so he could kill the women inside.....and they denied him acceptance, again."

But those girls know that he thought their sorority was the hottest. GG Alpha Phi.

5/26/2014 6:02:32 PM

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"and they denied him acceptance entrance, again"

5/26/2014 6:14:00 PM

red baron 22, I didn't notice the image macro I posted said Klebold and Harris were bullied, sry

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"what score will they give the one that goes on a rampage against transgenders?"

depends on how many were kids and how many were adults, that's the only way the scorecard differentiates the victims

5/26/2014 9:39:10 PM

I am just now reading and watching the videos on this stuff, and man this guy wanted some pussy REALLY REALLY bad hahahahahahahahahahahaha

5/26/2014 10:01:27 PM

I would kill for his god given duck lips...

5/26/2014 10:27:52 PM

Set em up --------------->

5/26/2014 10:28:30 PM