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"Unless told otherwise by neighbors, I would assume that 8-9 AM is fair game for me. If I was asked to stop or do it later, I'd try to be more courteous and respectful and push it back an hour."

This sums up my thoughts on the matter. If my neighbor started raging around like a douchenozzle like Duke acting like his opinion on what is reasonable is the only one that matters, then I would probably mow at 8am every time just because.

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM. Reason : x]

10/27/2014 3:52:27 PM

It stays light in the summer until 8:30 pm or so. Probably cooler in the evening than it is in the morning, and don't have to worry about dew on the grass.

Sorry, if you're mowing at 8am, unless you know your neighbors don't care, you're the one who is being inconsiderate. Lots of adult, hardworking Americans sleep past 8am on weekends. 9am is not as bad. 10am, you're good to go.

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 4:04 PM. Reason : ]

10/27/2014 3:53:28 PM

This thread makes me pretty thankful I didn't have neighbors growing up (currently live in apartment complex, so the cutting grass thing isn't an issue).

10/27/2014 3:59:00 PM

did none of you grow up in a decent family neighborhood? yard work starts around 8 and always has.

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 4:09 PM. Reason : ac]

10/27/2014 4:08:54 PM

you say that as if there's a true definition of "decent family neighborhood" and you took a poll of all of them going back for the last century.

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 4:14 PM. Reason : didn't you grow up in a commune?]

10/27/2014 4:14:13 PM

Grew up in a nice neighborhood, most people started yard work around 9:30 or 10. Except for the one guy that had to be out there by 8 (and usually once a week around 8pm too), who incidentally was also the one that called the cops out on the neighborhood block party twice.

10/27/2014 4:16:38 PM

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"did none of you grow up in a decent family neighborhood? yard work starts around 8 and always has."

This for me as well.

It was also a factor of things (in my opinion, and observance from my raising):

- Kids wake up early so families wake up early. I didn't start sleeping in until I was in college. When I was younger I was up at 7 am ready to do shit. So my parents were also up doing shit (like yard work). Until I got old enough to where I had to do it.

- I grew up in the country where people were just up early working...regardless of whether it was Saturday. Sunday was the only day for sleeping in...unless you went to an early church service. My mom grew up working on the farm where they were up at 6 am regardless of the day. That's how it was in my small town.

- For the millionth time...it's fucking hot. Outside work got done as early as possible.

Obviously this is a subject where it's not going to be complete agreement...but to call someone an asshole because they are doing yard work at 8 am is a bit of a stretch. If you're running a mower at 6 am or a powersaw at 11 pm...then you open yourself to being labeled a shit-head. But 8 am is not that early.

10/27/2014 4:25:00 PM

When we have our second child, our neighbors are assholes if they ever cut their grass, because that newborn could be sleeping at any time of the day.

10/27/2014 4:28:10 PM

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"Kids wake up early so families wake up early. I didn't start sleeping in until I was in college."

Once I got out of watching Saturday morning cartoons in middle school, I stayed up late on the weekends and slept in late. Especially when I got to high school and started partying... of course, my dad would make me get up and do yardwork hungover sometimes... but never at 8:00.

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"But 8 am is not that early."

That's you relative opinion, man. To night owls, that's early. Even if you have kids (because perhaps one of the spouses works 12 hour days and sleeps in on Saturday, when the other spouse gets up with the kids).

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" For the millionth time...it's fucking hot. Outside work got done as early as possible"

It stays light until almost 9:00pm during the summer, even on the weekdays.

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 4:30 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM. Reason : luckily i don't have any neighbors that do this. If I did I'd be upset that they did this.]

10/27/2014 4:29:28 PM

I understand that there are night owls -- but the world does not cater to night owls. Our entire way of life is built around sleeping at night and being up and about during the day. Sure, there are exceptions to the rules. But some of you people are asking that entire neighborhoods change the way they function because one guy wants to sleep past 8am.

Also, there is someone using a blower outside of my office window. It's annoying as hell.

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 4:38 PM. Reason : ]

10/27/2014 4:37:13 PM

again, a lot of people sleep past 8am, not just "one guy". Luckily all my neighbors seem to realize this (or also do it).

10/27/2014 4:39:11 PM

I know it's all relative....and people obviously have different schedules and priorities. But I'm kinda surprised how many people ITT are acting like 8 AM is crack-of-dawn early. And that's just an observation. I kinda felt like most people were getting their day started by 8 AM. Guess I was wrong.

10/27/2014 4:41:19 PM

My neighborhood is crazy busy to a fault by 8am. I was loading my car at 7am last Saturday and had three cars stop and ask me if I was having a yard sale. They got angry when I didn't know where in the neighborhood the yard sale was being held.

I would be interested to know if any of the "8am is way too early" people are married.

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 4:42 PM. Reason : ]

10/27/2014 4:42:10 PM

boring suburbanites

10/27/2014 4:43:16 PM

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"did none of you grow up in a decent family neighborhood? yard work starts around 8 and always has."

Yeah, you mow the lawn at like 6pm. After work. When it's not hot as shit. And nobody is sleeping. And if it's getting dark outside at 6pm, well, it's not during the time of year that it's hot as balls from 10am-12pm

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 4:55 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2014 4:55:09 PM

We've got someone across the street who gets picked up for work every morning at around 6:15 am and the person that picks them up beeps their car horn about 5 or 6 times when they pull in the driveway ("beeps" meaning holds it down for a couple seconds). We have already been up for about half an hour so it doesn't wake us up...but it is annoying. At the same time, that person is poor and has a couple kids to take care of so I'm just glad she's working. #perspective

10/27/2014 5:03:40 PM

when the hell do you people who think 8 is early wake up and go to work during the week? noon?

10/27/2014 5:56:28 PM

after they put on their cargo pants and give the homeless a biscuit

when do cunty orange juice swilling wesleyans like yourself start harassing people with bibles

10/27/2014 6:20:38 PM

usually at 7:59AM

maybe earlier in the summer

10/27/2014 6:44:37 PM

In a perfect world, jbrick and theduke would be neighbors.

10/27/2014 6:46:31 PM

We'd probably get along pretty well.

10/27/2014 6:58:43 PM

dtownral makes another good point.

8 am IS sleeping in for most of us.

10/27/2014 7:45:55 PM

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"when the hell do you people who think 8 is early wake up and go to work during the week? noon?"

Um, this thread is about mowing the lawn in the morning on the WEEKEND

Most people are up early for work on weekdays. And lots of those same people like to sleep later on the weekend.

Some weekdays I get up at 6am. On the weekends, when I don't have to get up that early, I usually choose not to.

10/27/2014 8:05:27 PM

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"If you're running a mower at 6 am or a powersaw at 11 pm...then you open yourself to being labeled a shit-head. But 8 am is not that early."

This is how I see it. 8 is not that early, but its pretty early for sure. It's definitely not TOO early though. Honestly I have to sleep through all kinds of shit to get up at noon, so somebody mowing their lawn and being productive early in the day really doesn't bother me.

The only time lawn stuff has bugged me when I'm trying to sleep is at apartment complexes. I swear 6 different dudes came by multiple times over the course of 4 hours with leaf blowers. WTF is up with that? What the hell are they doing?

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"when the hell do you people who think 8 is early wake up and go to work during the week? noon?"

Yes. Well, I did when work was slow. I will always think anything before noon is early, and I've worked jobs where I had to be up at 5 EVERY DAY for months at a time, not just weekdays but 7 days a week.

10/27/2014 8:15:18 PM

if it is your yard I say go for it, I hate seeing landscapers mowing residential areas on a Saturday morning.... unless it's been a real wet week and they're making up time.

10/27/2014 9:00:47 PM

LMAO at the 8am rage, real people are up and doing shit by then.

10/27/2014 9:15:35 PM

What about leaf blowing the yard at 2:00 in the morning?

10/27/2014 9:20:51 PM

I nail shingles on my roof at 5:30am because I'm a grown up.

10/27/2014 9:23:56 PM

I'm sorry you've made it this far in life without understanding the difference between 8am and 2am.

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 9:25 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2014 9:24:47 PM

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"Um, this thread is about mowing the lawn in the morning on the WEEKEND"

um, read my post again

if you are a grown adult with a real job who wakes up for work every weekday morning, how do you think 8AM is early on the WEEKEND?

10/27/2014 9:38:12 PM

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 9:39 PM. Reason : sry wrong thread]

10/27/2014 9:38:21 PM

I do not live in a house in a family neighborhood but I can't imagine a neighbor mowing at any hour would disturb my sleep. I'm up at 8 am anyway. I agree with it's all fair game if the sun's up.

10/27/2014 9:43:23 PM

ITT, a bunch of grownups whining about having to get up at a decent time on the weekends.

10/27/2014 9:51:01 PM

You notice all the anti-mowers were posting in the middle of the day on a Monday. Get off the sofa, leave your parents basement, get a job, then the 8am mowing won't bother you.

10/27/2014 9:58:56 PM

Assuming the neighbor's lawn isn't too big, would salting their lawn be a better fuck you to them than potentially pissing off all your neighbors by being as loud as you can late at night?

10/27/2014 10:17:49 PM

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"um, read my post again"

It still makes no sense. People, by and large, wake up early on weekdays because they have to. People generally sleep later on weekends. Even if it's only an hour later. Why would someone who thinks getting up at 8am on a weekend is early wake up at noon on a weekday?

I could easily say waking up at 8am on a weekday is waking up late, whereas waking up at 8am on a weekend is waking up early. Meanwhile you're trying to equivocate people waking up at a certain hour to go to work, with people waking up at that same time on a weekend, when they can snooze and catch up on the sleep they lost during the work week

There's a difference in staying up past midnight on New Year's Eve, versus staying up past midnight when you have to be at work early the next morning

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 10:35 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2014 10:32:32 PM

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"if you are a grown adult with a real job who wakes up for work every weekday morning, how do you think 8AM is early on the WEEKEND?"

Huh? They PAY me to get up during the week.

You people can't seem to understand there are morning people and night people. Also different people NEED different amounts of sleeps. And finally, of course, there are millions of people that have trouble sleeping and may need to be in bed longer to get the same amounts of sleep.

[Edited on October 27, 2014 at 10:38 PM. Reason : ^jinx, kinda]

10/27/2014 10:37:19 PM

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" No one is even being close to inferring this at all."

Technically you're right, they're implying it, not inferring it. Except they aren't really even implying it, people (including you) are outright saying it:

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"Quit your bitching and start your day earlier."

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"we are all in our 30's, who is not up by 9?"

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"poor people wake up after 9am"

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"Your lazy ass can take a nap when I'm done"

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"If you're 31 and still sleeping in until 10 on Sat/Sun (not due to any strange work schedule) then maybe you should move out of your parents house"

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"When you grow up and start having responsible shit to do, you sometimes have to get up earlier in the morning. You should try it"

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"You notice all the anti-mowers were posting in the middle of the day on a Monday. Get off the sofa, leave your parents basement, get a job"

And to the last one I will point out, at least for my own part, I'm posting from an office in a time zone that is six hours ahead of NC.

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Wanting your lawn to look perfect is not more or less reasonable than wanting to sleep in on days when that is possible. Wanting to make it to the beach before noon is not more or less reasonable than wanting to be out with friends at a bar until it closes. My only argument is that neither side here has some overwhelming moral advantage, but one side always acts like it does.

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"Obviously this is a subject where it's not going to be complete agreement...but to call someone an asshole because they are doing yard work at 8 am is a bit of a stretch. If you're running a mower at 6 am or a powersaw at 11 pm...then you open yourself to being labeled a shit-head. But 8 am is not that early."

Now we need to get some farming bumpkin to come in here and say, "To call me an asshole for running my tractor at 6 AM is a stretch. Now, if they're out weed-eating at 3:30 AM, that there guy is a shit-head."

You're right, there is not going to be complete agreement, and that is why the only solution is for you -- or whoever is doing the potentially loud, disruptive thing -- to ask your neighbors if they're bothered. If you were having a noisy party, you'd give your neighbors the heads up beforehand. Or if your neighbor asked you to turn down the music at said party, even if it was before the noise ordinance went into effect, you'd comply (I hope). Lawn care does not get a magical free pass because it seems to you like a better use of your time, or because it happens during hours that you personally like being awake.

10/28/2014 4:19:25 AM

We live beside a farm. If they're out there at 6 AM with a tractor, and I'm up, I might happen to offer a cup of coffee to the farmer as he rides by the house.

10/28/2014 6:58:35 AM

^^ I took most of that as trolling. But it appears you're sensitive to the subject (maybe the "pale" part hit too close to home??), so take it how you want it. I actually wish I could sleep in later...I've just been getting up with my wife every day at 5:30am for the past 4 years that my body can't physically stay asleep past 7 am...no matter what time I go to bed.

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"My only argument is that neither side here has some overwhelming moral advantage"

I think that's because you're comparing "beach vs. bar". My main argument has always been the comfort of doing yard work when the temperature is reasonable in the middle of the summer (so it would be "presentable yard v. bar"). I never made the "moral" argument...but since you brought it up...I think getting up early to make your house and neighborhood more presentable is a little more "moral" than closing a bar down or throwing a kegger. And this is coming from someone who drinks everyday and tended bar for 10 years.

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"Now we need to get some farming bumpkin to come in here and say, "To call me an asshole for running my tractor at 6 AM is a stretch. Now, if they're out weed-eating at 3:30 AM, that there guy is a shit-head." "

Except that's not going to happen. I'm sure we have several "farming bumpkins" and people who grew up on or around farms (myself included)...and no one has said that. But whatever makes your argument better.

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"You're right, there is not going to be complete agreement, and that is why the only solution is for you -- or whoever is doing the potentially loud, disruptive thing -- to ask your neighbors if they're bothered."

I'm in somewhat agreement. Since I don't think 8 am is unreasonable, I would just wait to see if they would say something to me, and then we could work something out.

10/28/2014 7:18:05 AM

If your ass can't sleep through your neighbor mowing the lawn you didn't need the sleep that badly anyway.

That being said, you really shouldn't be out mowing your lawn before 9AM. Let that dew dry out.

10/28/2014 7:37:56 AM

^^I took most of the as trolling

10/28/2014 7:51:39 AM

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"I think that's because you're comparing "beach vs. bar". My main argument has always been the comfort of doing yard work when the temperature is reasonable in the middle of the summer (so it would be "presentable yard v. bar"). I never made the "moral" argument...but since you brought it up...I think getting up early to make your house and neighborhood more presentable is a little more "moral" than closing a bar down or throwing a kegger. And this is coming from someone who drinks everyday and tended bar for 10 years"

And what about those of us that work long hours during the week and would like to sleep in more than one extra hour on the weekend? I'm not always out at a rager (though sometimes I am), often I'm being just as useful to society...and definitely more considerate of them than you

Also - Your heat argument is invalid when there are perfectly good evening hours to do your mowing if you know you want to be ready for more social events on Saturday. Unless, God forbid those afternoon/evening hours are inconvenient for you too, then please...interrupt my peace and quiet at an earlier hour on the weekend.

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"You notice all the anti-mowers were posting in the middle of the day on a Monday. Get off the sofa, leave your parents basement, get a job, then the 8am mowing won't bother you."

I also notice all you people defending being an inconsiderate ass at 8am on the weekends are posting during a time in the summer when it'd be light out, cooler, and not disrupting to be out mowing your yard.

10/28/2014 8:46:17 AM

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" Also - Your heat argument is invalid when there are perfectly good evening hours to do your mowing if you know you want to be ready for more social events on Saturday"

People complain about that too. My neighborhood has a facebook page that just had a heated argument about a neighbor doing construction work from 5-7pm while the original topic starter was "trying to watch the news and have a nice dinner with her family." A lot of people sided with the person trying to "improve their home"....but plenty of people backed the woman who wanted to enjoy a quiet evening with her family.

There is never going to be a time where everyone is okay with loud noises outside of their home. What is okay for you will not be okay for the other neighbor.

10/28/2014 9:16:13 AM

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" But it appears you're sensitive to the subject (maybe the "pale" part hit too close to home??)"

No, it's just that I've been hearing this line of bullshit my whole life. My current level of paleness is attributable to anti-malaria pills. I get more than enough sun and heat.

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" My main argument has always been the comfort of doing yard work when the temperature is reasonable in the middle of the summer"

I know. It's been pointed out to you, repeatedly, that there are other times when the temperature is acceptable -- after work every single goddamn day, for example, or in the evening on weekends. If that is inconvenient for you, you've got nothing, no advantage. You not wanting to mow after work because, for example, you're tired and want to unwind, is exactly the same as me wanting you not to mow in the morning, when I'm tired and want to sleep.

And if you keep bringing up terrible, selfish reasons -- "I want good beach parking, I want my favorite spot at the bar" -- I'm going to keep attacking them, because it's easy and it's a slow week at the office and I've got some time.

10/28/2014 9:23:08 AM

Lots of people don't like loud work being done in the late afternoon/early evening, but since that's better for you, that's when I should do it?

Basically I'd just be pissing off a different group of people. If that's the case, why not just do it when it's convenient for me?

The really unreasonable times to do loud shit are way early in the morning (lets say 6 am), and really late at night (let's say 10pm and on, just to be safe).

Anything done at 8am - 10am and 5pm - 8pm are just going to piss of a different group of people. I'm just going to pick the time that is more convenient for me. How about that?

10/28/2014 9:35:10 AM

It's what you do anyway, so whatever bro.

10/28/2014 9:43:03 AM

I'm surprised to hear that there is anybody who would object to late afternoon/early evening.

10/28/2014 9:46:45 AM

To call me an asshole for running my tractor at 6 AM is a stretch. Now, if they're out weed-eating at 3:30 AM, that there guy is a shit-head.

10/28/2014 9:47:16 AM

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"I'm surprised to hear that there is anybody who would object to late afternoon/early evening. "

There's a whole group of people who find TV watching more pleasurable than sleeping late. If it's loud enough to keep you from sleeping on a Saturday morning, it's loud enough to drown out the TV.

10/28/2014 9:58:26 AM