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"cnn.com front page "hillary's confident sweep" with a HUGE picture of her"

CNN is part of TimeWarner Cable. Time Warner Cable has donated about $500k to Clinton's campaign so far. TWC was the 4th largest donator to her campaign in 2008.

Liberal Media = don't trust the politics section, it is bought and paid for.

10/14/2015 1:53:41 AM

I'm not buying Clinton's response that being a woman doesn't make her an insider, I'm curious how women reacted to that statement

10/14/2015 8:40:46 AM

What's the best way to watch the debate, if I missed it last night?

10/14/2015 8:51:48 AM

hillary's mouth is scripted exclusively to things that will garner a positive response so I'm sure it all went well.

10/14/2015 8:56:02 AM

10/14/2015 9:51:43 AM

"We want Hilary Clinton to be president" Says TWC with $500k +

"Hilary Clinton won the debate" says TWC - owned news source after TWC - owned media moderates/hosts the debate and gives Clinton the most speaking time.

10/14/2015 10:03:47 AM

She looks good in this pic.

10/14/2015 10:09:42 AM

TKE you can find the full republican debates on YouTube - I assume someone will upload the full democratic debate as well.

10/14/2015 10:42:44 AM

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"lol CNN.com Fox News for the left"

No, that's MSNBC. CNN is the middle of the three cable news outlets at this point it's pretty well established.

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"Bernie's stance on gun rights is not going to have an impact on his campaign."

Well, it was brought up.

10/14/2015 11:12:03 AM

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"I'm not buying Clinton's response that being a woman doesn't make her an insider, I'm curious how women reacted to that statement "

That was the worst answer of the night IMO, tied with chafees "i was new to the senate and my did just died".

10/14/2015 11:14:10 AM

You guys need to understand the context of the debate last night. The other four candidates were trying to win the primary, Hillary was debating for the general. Her goal was to look presidential while not saying anything that could be used against her by whomever emerges from the GOP clown car. It was also to reassure chickenshit Democrats that Biden doesn't need to enter the race. She accomplished all that with no missteps, so it's pretty fair to say she "won" the debate.

10/14/2015 11:14:44 AM

^ she does win by not losing

It's what she did in 2008, until she got a chink in her armor after engaging Chris Dodd in a policy debate. (Forget what it was, but she stumbled over herself in words trying to be all things to both sides, and next debate Wolf Blitzer completely let her off the hook with a one-word "no" answer from her.)

10/14/2015 11:31:51 AM

^^ I would agree that Hillary won too just looking at the debate. She basically made it seem like she agreed on Bernie with everything, but she was more "composed" than Bernie.

I like what Bernie was saying, but he was literally shouting half the time. Bernie gave the best answer to gun control too.

But the problem with Hillary is that she really is as much of an insider as you can be, she might claim to want to take on wall street like bernie, but we know she can't-- she would compromise, and they would get the better end of the deal. We know she doesn't "really" believe the military is a last resort like she says. We know the email scandal could be more devastating than she let on. As a politician and campaigner, she "won" the debate, but that doesn't make her any better of a candidate based on what we know about her.

10/14/2015 11:41:26 AM

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" It was also to reassure chickenshit Democrats that Biden doesn't need to enter the race."

chickenshit democrats? it's Clinton supporters who have been floating the Biden option to keep Sanders support divided

10/14/2015 11:41:46 AM

^^Just as a thought exercise, what would taking on Wall Street look like to you? Are we talking straight legal fire and brimstone here, putting people in jail, etc....? Breaking up big institutions? Going after executive salaries? For me, it goes back to the same debate we had over the bailouts. People wanted to either let the banks sink, or make the money contingent on them taking on draconian reforms. It's just not reasonable to expect something like that out of one deal or even one administration. We're talking 30+ years of handing Wall Street all the guns, all the hostages, and the getaway vehicles to private islands. The financial sector is 9% of our GDP and most of the middle class's retirement funds are tied up in it. Realistically speaking, what silver bullet is going to kill that?

As to the email "scandal", let me remind everyone how that went. When word first came out of Hillary's private server, they tried to say she was breaking the law or violating State department policy by mixing private and work email. Turns out that wasn't the case at all, so they started looking for classified data and even tried to tie into Benghazi. Now that well's completely dried up and all that's left is trying to nail her on a technicality that she didn't turn over all the emails, basically catching her in a lie. There was never any there there, as they say, it was always a political sideshow and McCarthy's comments proved it.

10/14/2015 11:58:59 AM

^ To be fair, the opening up of the world via free trade and the internet has helped a great deal in allowing people to shift money around and hide it. The Chinese for example right now are actively trying to prevent their rich from sending all their money offshore because they all think the value of the yuan is going to go down soon, and the Chinese state is by design more powerful than the American state. Their foreign reserves still plummeted over the last 4-5 months.

10/14/2015 12:16:37 PM

^^I think it could look something like:
- financial transaction taxes, speculation tax, tax spoofing
- fix conflict of interest in federal reserve (also, audit the federal reserve)
- reinstate Glass-Steagall, strengthen Volcker rule by closing hedge fund loophole
- hold individuals accountable for corporate fraud, allow executive bonuses to be taken to pay fines
- establish in advance a list of banks that are "too big to fail", then break them up so they do not put economy at risk

etc...

[Edited on October 14, 2015 at 12:57 PM. Reason : ^]

10/14/2015 12:28:01 PM

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"But the thing we must remember is that tyrants like Hillary Clinton and kooks like Bernie Sanders didn't ascend to prominence by accident. They represent what millions of Americans want: tyranny, oppression, insanity, and death. They are merely expressions of our cultural sickness, not the root causes of it. Read this to find out how lost many of our fellow countrymen are, and then pray:"

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/democrats-are-godless-heathen-tyrant-maniacs-because-thats-what-voters-want/

Someone posted this on Facebook, seems counter to most other reports that the democrat debate was far less nutty than the Republican one.

10/14/2015 1:17:53 PM

Matt Walsh is good if you can ignore his religious/abortion rants.

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"because there’s nothing more exhilarating than listening to old rich white people complain about old rich white people."

I loled

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"When “do all lives matters?” becomes a difficult gotcha question in politics, you know things have gone severely off the rails."

[Edited on October 14, 2015 at 1:41 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2015 1:25:36 PM

^ the whole thing was a mostly shallow, incoherent rant, but I can see why this would appeal to you...

I just wonder how do you get through to people that far gone.

10/14/2015 1:38:58 PM

Did Matt Walsh get the two debates confused?

10/14/2015 1:49:18 PM

^ Don't judge it off the clickbait headline. The Blaze is even worse than HuffPost with the clickbait title garbage.

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"but I can see why this would appeal to you..."

Because if you can filter out his bourbon-fueled religious-abortion rants he is usually spot on with shitting on stupid-liberalism, which appeals to me because the media is overwhelmingly biased towards perpetuating stupid-liberalism.

10/14/2015 1:58:17 PM

i read it, this guy is so confused that i'm not sure if it's satire

10/14/2015 2:02:31 PM

^Its too bad we don't have "true believer" conservatives to post arguments, similar to those, seemingly off the cuff, on a regular basis anymore in TSB (the ones still hanging around really choose their battles relatively smartly). Maybe I was getting trolled back in the day, but I miss watching unfounded assumptions and STRAWMAN being ripped to shreads.

10/14/2015 9:12:57 PM

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"Bernie Won All the Focus Groups & Online Polls, So Why Is the Media Saying Hillary Won the Debate?"

http://www.alternet.org/media/bernie-won-all-focus-groups-online-polls-so-why-media-saying-hillary-won-debate

10/15/2015 5:08:47 PM

On CNN's broadcast in the middle of a 10 minute conversation about Hillary's dominant performance in the debate, they stopped to mention that bernie won their own facebook polls 86% to Hillary's 4% and immediately said that those numbers aren't important because the average age on facebook is 45 and its mostly just young people who are excited about Bernie but wouldn't actually vote for him.

It was astonishing.

10/15/2015 6:31:38 PM

Fucking mainstream media and their insidious dumbing down of America

https://theintercept.com/2015/10/14/cable-news-edits-out-rousing-sanders-attack-on-vapid-media-coverage

10/15/2015 11:25:36 PM

lol winning online polls. facebook polls? are you fucking serious?

how about real polls? scientific polls that actually can be used for something other than toilet paper?



I swear to god Bernidiots are trying to rival the tea party in stupidity

[Edited on October 16, 2015 at 2:33 PM. Reason : .]

10/16/2015 2:31:09 PM

I know right! "Online Polls"... are you kidding me? Who uses the internet to take a poll? What a complete joke. Who, in modern day America, a democracy, uses "online polls" to "vote" and try to get an estimation.

Classic Bernidiots trying to figure out favorability through sampling the largest group possible... voting? Why don't I just wipe my ass with your ballot, Bern-Tard.

Talk to me when you get all of your information from the completely unbiased TimeWarner news sources that have already payed for Clinton to win.

10/16/2015 3:22:36 PM

Why was data collected by CNN if they were going to disregard it? When did they realize the data wasn't going to tell us anything?

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"The ability to extrapolate from the 20% of telephone respondents that pollsters can get hold of, to the 80% that they cannot, is clearly a challenge - leading to concerns over the quality of achieved samples, whether telephone or face-to-face. There are, of course, some areas where an online approach is inappropriate, and we would always alert our clients to this. However, it would be unfair to say that online is ‘biased’ in a way that offline is not. The fact is, there are different biases for which all approaches have to account."

10/16/2015 3:37:30 PM

Collecting data? Classic Bernidiots. I wipe my ass with data.

10/16/2015 3:50:38 PM

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"But the thing we must remember is that tyrants like Hillary Clinton and kooks like Bernie Sanders didn't ascend to prominence by accident. They represent what millions of Americans want: tyranny, oppression, insanity, and death. They are merely expressions of our cultural sickness, not the root causes of it. Read this to find out how lost many of our fellow countrymen are, and then pray."

Interestingly this is what I think whenever I hear all the dumbass Joe the Plumber type conservatives defending their GOP candidates.

Minus an increase on gun control, typically it always appears to be the Republicans that are attempting to erode our rights and freedoms. Including and not limited too:

- A woman's right to reproductive health
- Invasion of my privacy by unrestricted phone tapping by the NSA (McConnell -R ardently fought curtailing these programs)
- A hardline on drugs which gave excessive jail sentences to those caught.
- Attempting to enact Christian Laws.

10/16/2015 4:07:13 PM

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"Classic Bernidiots trying to figure out favorability through sampling the largest group possible"

Thank you for proving my point. You guys are fucking dumb as hell and have no clue what you're talking about.

CNN could run a poll that finds 99% of people support Bernie based on 970 million votes cast, and y'all would be like SEE ALMOST A BILLION PEOPLE IN THE USA SUPPORT BERNIE.

Go search "TWW poll skew" and you'll begin to understand why online polls don't mean shit.



[Edited on October 16, 2015 at 4:51 PM. Reason : .]

10/16/2015 4:43:14 PM

Thank you so much for enlightening me with your vast intellect. I do often have trouble understanding how basic numbers work, because I see focus groups and online polls indicating favorability for Sanders, and I say to myself "SEE ALMOST A BILLION PEOPLE IN THE USA SUPPORT BERNIE". Man I am so dumb.

People on TWW skew support for their college sports teams all the time, so how can any poll ever be considered at all? The focus groups don't matter either! They are Bernitards that are dumb as hell and have no clue what they are talking about!

Talk to me when you can read the headlines from biased media outlets that are paying for Clinton to get elected, because that is way more reliable than a stupid poll.

10/16/2015 5:14:10 PM

The only polls that matter are elections. If Bernie wins New Hampshire, which right now I'd bet my money he will, it's going to change public opinion on how "electable" he is, and I think we'll see him gain a huge wave of new supporters.

10/17/2015 2:47:08 PM

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"People on TWW skew support for their college sports teams all the time, so how can any poll ever be considered at all? "

jesus fucking christ you have no idea how real polls work. stop showing your ass

10/18/2015 10:31:00 PM

wow, Hillary Clinton not having to respond to any of the BlackLivesMatter stuff is really helping her out, Sanders really needs to figure out how to connect with black voters

10/19/2015 9:16:17 AM

^
That liberal billionare George Soros guy is funding the non hashtag side of "BLM" and also is donating to Clinton.

Sanders will probably be interrupted several more times by another "moment of silence for a dead thug that assaulted a cop".

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" jesus fucking christ you have no idea how real polls work. stop showing your ass"

No I am good with polls. I read a pole that said "calling others dumb makes you seem smart on the internet 1000% of the time". That was right after the one that said "A billion people in the USA support Bernie".

10/19/2015 2:17:07 PM

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

10/20/2015 4:49:29 PM

It is rather adorable how much voters think they actually get to decide the nominee. It's usually pretty well decided after less than 15% of the states have even had a primary or caucus. Then with the democrats they have about 20% of their actual delegates who are not beholden to the voters at all.

We get to vote in the general election, but the primaries are really controlled by the parties. Sanders would have to have an absolute landslide to have any shot at actually getting the nomination.

I'm not sure how or why the Biden thing is going to work. He wouldn't be coming in if the DNC didn't have serious concerns about Clinton's viability in the general election. One also has to think this will also give the media a reason to give Sanders even less media coverage. Couple that with the historically low number of debates and you can see just how much the Dems are trying to minimize his impact and keep Hilary from having to run more left. There are two other reasons for Biden to enter. Either there is a looming shitstorm for Hilary coming down the pike that they know about, or Obama really dislikes the Clintons enough that this is a spite move designed to keep them out of the whitehouse.

10/20/2015 5:11:30 PM

^^while interesting, good lord someone has to have serious affinity for both politics and minutiae to put that together.

10/20/2015 6:04:30 PM

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"Aaron Bycoffe is a computational journalist for FiveThirtyEight."

Sounds about right, plus he's getting paid for it.

10/20/2015 8:09:13 PM

Why is Trump not on that list? Does he have 0 political endorsements?

10/20/2015 8:21:49 PM

None from congressmen, senators or governors

10/21/2015 7:50:33 AM

Well, so much for Biden.

10/21/2015 12:25:38 PM

Hillary did a really good job in Colbert...

10/28/2015 4:56:57 PM

Just about 3 months out from the first primary.

Hillary took a huge leap in Iowa polling. 2 weeks ago she was tied with Bernie, last week was up 5, and is now showing as up 20. I think that is a result of Biden dropping out and all the attention she's gotten from the hearings. It may level out again but we'll see.

Bernie still up in New Hampshire and I can't imagine he'd lose there unless some huge thing happens.

Nevada and SC both firmly Hillary right now, but Bernie is trending in the right direction. Super Tuesday will be chaos.

10/28/2015 6:51:07 PM

Again, it doesn't matter. Bernie will not get the nomination unless he can win about 70% of the states. The democratic party controls roughly 20% of the nominating delegates and they will not allow anyone other than an establishment party member to get the nomination.

10/28/2015 7:08:16 PM

Bernie reminds me of Bob Ryan from Bahston on PTI (espn).

Know-it-all-annoying

10/28/2015 9:36:56 PM

but Bob Ryan does know it all

10/28/2015 9:52:01 PM