Yeah, statistically

I'd like to see what it looks like if you throw out the OOC schedule we had

1/6/2016 8:30:03 AM

^If you take the OOC out, our offense looks significantly worse too.

Offense played the same quality as our defense over the course of the season, our offense was just a much bigger letdown this year. People are just too caught up in the last 2 games(UNC and Miss. St.) because those 2 offense crushed our defense early, but don't forget our offense put them in terrible positions with turnovers and 3-and-outs.

Our offense put up 13 against Louisville and VT, 2 games we could have won if our offense showed up at all. Esp. the Louisville game, that was horrible.

1/6/2016 9:39:42 AM

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"Our offense put up 13 against Louisville and VT, 2 games we could have won if our offense showed up at all. Esp. the Louisville game, that was horrible."

yeah this is the biggest thing, imo.

yes, our D was not particularly good this year. but the offense wasn't great either. and the offense is what was supposed to be better...it definitely didn't live up to its potential imo

1/6/2016 10:48:14 AM

Grinnage has declared for the draft... There went out our only decent receiver...

We better figure out this OC situation fast... If Chip Kelly negotiations aren't working out, we need to move forward, get somebody on board before national signing day.

1/6/2016 2:27:00 PM

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"Our offense put up 13 against Louisville and VT, 2 games we could have won if our offense showed up at all. Esp. the Louisville game, that was horrible."

If we had won both of these games (and still lost to MSU) then I wouldn't be complaining for the body of work that was 2015. But we played poorly and shot ourselves in the foot repeatedly with penalties and instead lost them both.

1/6/2016 2:31:51 PM

Spinning stats is one thing but you guys are just making shit up now.

22nd in offensive efficiency
77th in defensive efficiency

You'd have to be an fool to even try to make the argument. Our offense was pretty good and our defense was TERRIBLE. Its not even CLOSE. Not to mention we lost our two best offensive players one right before the Ville and VT games surprise surprise

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings/_/sort/defEfficiency/tab/efficiency

[Edited on January 6, 2016 at 2:39 PM. Reason : argue with facts]

1/6/2016 2:35:09 PM

When we had a stable of Andre Browns and Toney Bakers, etc, we still weren't doing shit. Quit acting like Shad and Dayes were Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams at Auburn.

1/6/2016 5:33:29 PM

Baker and Brown were freaking always injured, and more importantly , in a totally different offense that was not as run game reliant as ours is now.

You can't draw any conclusions from comparing the two.

1/7/2016 9:10:56 AM

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"Spinning stats is one thing but you guys are just making shit up now. 22nd in offensive efficiency 77th in defensive efficiency"

That's not difficult when you play 4 defacto FCS schools and your conference is the ACC, half of which is laughable.

[Edited on January 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM. Reason : INCLUDING TEH WOLPFACK]

1/7/2016 9:43:21 AM

We are 100% definitely getting Chip Kelly

1/7/2016 10:02:15 AM

NO, BILL COWHER

1/7/2016 11:16:03 AM

Correct. Chip Kelly, no Bill Cowher.

1/7/2016 11:39:28 AM

1/7/2016 12:11:55 PM

Clemson and BC are the #2 and #3 defenses in the country. But go on...Keep talking about fcs opponents and just ignore the fact that we put up even bigger numbers against the best defenses in the country.

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"That's not difficult when you play 4 defacto FCS schools and your conference is the ACC, half of which is laughable."

Those rankings are already adjusted for that. Also, the discussion was not that our offense was "so good" (even though it was somewhat prolific). The discussion was that are offense was simply better than our defense and the fact is its not even debatable.

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"The values are adjusted for strength of schedule and down-weighted for "garbage time""

Go on though...Keep making stuff up.

[Edited on January 7, 2016 at 12:20 PM. Reason : k]

1/7/2016 12:19:21 PM

Eliah Drinkwitz- The invisible ghost who comes into your house on Passover to drink a glass of wine, has become our new Offensive coordinator! Mazel Tov...?

Well He's not Chip Kelly guys- HOWEVER, he's definitely a good young up and comer and has a solid pedigree:

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"Drinkwitz spent this past season as Boise State's offensive coordinator, helping the Broncos offense average 39 points per game and over 500 yards per game, both totals ranked top-15 nationally."

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"Drinkwitz is widely regarded as one of the top young offensive minds in all of college football, having coached under Harsin, as well as Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn."

http://www.ktvb.com/story/sports/ncaaf/boise-state/2016/01/11/offensive-coordinator-drinkwitz-leave-boise-state/78652394/

PS: Is that a Calculator watch?? ugh.










[Edited on January 11, 2016 at 6:46 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2016 6:18:00 PM

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"Drinkwitz is widely regarded as one of the top young offensive minds in all of college football, having coached under Harsin, as well as Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn"

Either he'll suck or he'll be great and become a HC elsewhere

1/11/2016 7:04:36 PM

^thats fine if he wants to be Norm Chow 2.0, just give us two good years.

1/11/2016 7:16:18 PM

looks like a Fitbit over calculator watch as well for what it's worth.

1/11/2016 7:29:55 PM

I think he'll eventually replace Doeren.

Great hire.

1/11/2016 7:48:37 PM

It's like Doeren tried to hire the only geek that could out dork his Midwestern douchey douchness.

But at least this guy has the pedigree! I'm happy with the hire.

1/11/2016 8:30:00 PM

I thought Jared went to jail

1/11/2016 10:15:05 PM

and now my hopes are up again...only 8 months to go

1/11/2016 10:59:35 PM

That picture is very fogle-ish

1/11/2016 11:01:08 PM

He really does have a Jared look to him.

1/11/2016 11:41:12 PM

Thats a te

1/12/2016 12:02:27 AM

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"I think he'll eventually replace Doeren. Great hire. "

Why would dd even hire someone who could eventually replace him?

[Edited on January 12, 2016 at 1:08 AM. Reason : ]

1/12/2016 1:06:56 AM

Good results as an OC.
Regarded as a great recruiter.
Young and looking to move up the ranks.
Proven to be able to work with young QBs.

On paper it's a great hire with a ton of potential. Just have to be patient and see how our guys adapt to his schemes.

Best case scenario he is our Chad Morris and installs a top flight offense and brings in some really good recruits before heading out and we just continue to run the offense when he leaves.

Worse case scenario he is Matt Canada.

1/12/2016 8:17:02 AM

dude seems like a nerd

sometimes the nerds work out (GUS) other times theyre just nerds

1/12/2016 8:33:59 AM

What are you guys gonna do, give him a wedgie and take his lunch money? "Hey, hey, look at him, he has glasses and looks goofy. HAHA, NEEERRRRRDD!!!"

1/12/2016 8:56:03 AM

1/12/2016 9:01:00 AM

Saw some others that dont look too nerdy. Maybe a bad pic

1/12/2016 9:04:15 AM

Quote :

"What are you guys gonna do, give him a wedgie and take his lunch money? "Hey, hey, look at him, he has glasses and looks goofy. HAHA, NEEERRRRRDD!!!" "

did you type that while wearing a pocket protector?

1/12/2016 10:37:03 AM

Quote :

"Why would dd even hire someone who could eventually replace him?"

because if he doesn't start achieving good results then he'll get fired anyway. also, it's not 100% Doeren's hire - I'm sure Yow had a lot to do with it.

if this guy comes in and ends up getting us a ranked program or something like that and then gets offers elsewhere, are we going to say the success was because of Doeren, or the success was from the OC and make him an offer?

1/12/2016 10:51:45 AM

Im ok with this hire. Lock it up.

1/12/2016 12:06:21 PM

Quote :

"if this guy comes in and ends up getting us a ranked program or something like that and then gets offers elsewhere, are we going to say the success was because of Doeren, or the success was from the OC and make him an offer? "

It can be both. It's not really one or the other.

1/12/2016 3:34:22 PM

Held a picture of him up to my gf, who doenst know shit about NC State football, and said who is this? I didnt even mention he was football related or anything.


Her response: "Jared?"


LOL

1/12/2016 3:48:15 PM

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"my gf, who doenst know shit"

that's cold man

1/12/2016 3:56:27 PM

Yea man, don't talk about your lady that way.

1/12/2016 6:31:12 PM

Sounds like Ledford is a serious contender for the OL position.

That would be great, to have a former NFL player and great recruiter on staff. It's even better to know he went to ECU and just turned down the same offer for them so he could come here.

1/13/2016 8:51:07 AM

The hire is better than I was expecting honestly. Anyone who comes from the Malzahn tree is fine with me.

Only question is how well he's gonna recruit the SE. But he is from Arkansas and doesn't have an Idaho accent (if that's a thing). Boise St fans say he was their best recruiter. Guess we'll see.

1/13/2016 10:29:32 AM

Quote :

"Drinkwitz left after one year as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach to join a program that has lost more games than it has won the past three years, dismissed its previous coordinator and could have head coach Dave Doeren on the hot seat after an 18-20 start to his tenure."

lol

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/boise-state-football/article54237025.html

1/13/2016 11:58:50 AM

all of that is true.

1/13/2016 12:07:16 PM

^^Should show them the significance of being at a P5 school, even if it's a lousy one.

[Edited on January 13, 2016 at 12:09 PM. Reason : ^]

1/13/2016 12:09:04 PM

I assume Drinkwitz got a raise to come to State plus who the fuck wants to live in Boise. Raleigh/NC >> Boise/Idaho

1/13/2016 12:30:23 PM

He probably got a raise but he's still getting paid quite a bit less than we were paying Canada.

Think Drink knows he just has to make us better than we were the last 2 years(really not that hard to do, esp. in the passing game), and he'll have major offers thrown at him.

He's basically betting on himself being able to come in, improve our offense the next 2 years and then spring for an OC job at a top 10-15 program or a HC job at a FBS school.

1/13/2016 12:40:41 PM

So he's only been an OC for 1 year? Let me just pull up the DD Credibility Watch thread.

1/13/2016 1:02:38 PM

damn, I didnt know all that shit was going on at Boise. Makes the SEC look good

1/13/2016 1:34:31 PM

I hope he sucks just so we can call him DrinkJizz haha lol

1/13/2016 1:49:33 PM

Dankwitz

1/13/2016 1:53:17 PM

Quote :

"Should show them the significance of being at a P5 school, even if it's a lousy one."

also the significance of not having a boss who you used to be co-offensive coordinator with. (i think this is the big reason why he left)

1/13/2016 3:58:16 PM