Trump! Trump! Trump!’ attacker allegedly yelled as he beat Hispanic man, Muslim student
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/14/trump-trump-trump-yells-attacker-as-he-beats-hispanic-man-muslim-student/

3/15/2016 11:10:11 AM

^^ hyperbole maybe but it was for a project he was involved in. And people don't really care if he uses hyperbole it's more the barrage of complete and utter lies he spews daily.

3/15/2016 11:30:07 AM

you hire a contractor.....that contractor hires a carpenter off the books. Job is completed to your satisfaction, and you pay.

Is it ok if a random licensed carpenter then sues you?

3/15/2016 12:48:16 PM

Trump's Wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en_s2QnAgBE

3/15/2016 12:56:44 PM

^^ I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure and that attack on Trump is tenuous at best.

But again, tenuous at best isn't the same as nearly every statement being a complete and utter lie. I really don't understand the whole "Trump tells it like it is" when he is up there lying more then any real politician does.

3/15/2016 2:11:56 PM

Quote :

" I was curious about this claim, so I checked it out. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/25/marco-rubio/marco-rubio-says-donald-trump-had-pay-1-million-hi/ A contractor for Trump hired some illegals in 1980. Trump says he had no knowledge of the workers; he paid the contractor to get the job done. Interestingly, it was the union that sued Trump over this. They successfully argued in court that, by hiring undocumented workers, Trump's contractor (and, by extension, Trump) cheated them out of their entitled pensions or wages or whatever. Like many anti-Trump claims, this one is hyperbole. It makes sense as a tactic, I guess. Trump uses hyperbole, so fight fire with fire, right? 3/15/2016 11:08:45 AM"

It's not really hyperbole. the point is that if there were real consequences for hiring illegals, trump would actually make sure people were following the law. You really think trump has no other illegals working for him? He does, and he knows he does, but rather than actually finding out, he'd rather use racist rhetoric to demonize Hispanics.

Trump doesn't care about solving the problem of illegal immigration, he just knows that xenophobia plays well with his gullible base.

3/15/2016 2:19:06 PM

Quote :

"So what's a guilty political pleasure? In part, it involves big promises without any notion of trade-offs. Cut taxes $10 trillion without touching entitlements. Make Mexico pay for a border wall. Knock the hell out of ISIS without sending ground troops. Don't worry — we can afford it because I'll make us so rich. But for a lot of Trump's voters, the biggest forbidden pleasure he has unlocked is the license to express resentments and hatreds that have long been suppressed by standards of decency and politeness, more commonly referred to by Republican politicians as "political correctness." Trump has even indulged the desire to act out violently, or at least to watch acts of violence, against political opponents. "

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-brand-products-voting-2016-3

3/15/2016 2:32:49 PM

So which person running for President is the most truthful, stands behind what they say, and has the general public's best interest in mind?

3/15/2016 2:32:59 PM

John Kasich if I had to guess

3/15/2016 2:39:39 PM

Not Trump. In fact he would be last.

Bernie by a mile, though... then maybe Kasich.

3/15/2016 2:39:44 PM

Bernie, it seems to me. You may not like his "socialistic" policies, but he seems less sleazy than the rest (well, Kasich doesn't seem too sleazy either).

3/15/2016 2:45:20 PM

Bernie has the best interest of the public in mind?

Has the man never taken a economics course? Who does he plan to pay for his 'living' wages and universal health care and education? How has he not seen that college degrees are becoming less and less valuable by the day? His policies have never worked.

Kasich is spineless and weak and panders to anyone who he thinks will vote for him. He went farther left than even the left.
http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2016/03/14/john-kasich-goes-all-in-for-amnesty-illegals-made-in-the-image-of-the-lord/

3/15/2016 2:50:08 PM

At least with Hillary, you know you're getting an establishment shill, which is exactly what we've had for decades.

3/15/2016 2:50:40 PM

^^whose interests do you think bernie has in mind?

3/15/2016 2:52:14 PM

A Breitbart article? Even after this past week? Sheesh.

I would comment on Trump's policy ideas but I honestly don't know any beyond the vague nonsense on his website. The next time he lays out policy in a succinct manner will be the first.

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 2:57 PM. Reason : Ffs, his website has make Mexico pay for a wall in bold]

3/15/2016 2:55:59 PM

I'm with you on the vagueness. I was interested in Trump for a bit, but he never got specific about his policies, so I lost interest.

Bernie doesn't have mine or anyone I know interests in mind. Speaking on 'free' education is pandering to a group of people who, for the most part, have never had a serious job or paid serious taxes or knows how the real world works. That is not who you want to be selecting a president. Almost as bad as people voting for Obama because he was 'black' and it was 'their' turn. Votes were cast with no basis in reality.

3/15/2016 3:10:27 PM

doesn't have your interest at heart? damn, didn't know you were so rich

3/15/2016 3:11:19 PM

^^So who do you feel has your interests in mind?

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 3:13 PM. Reason : ]

3/15/2016 3:12:53 PM

he's mad about black people voting for Obama and thinks that people are poor just because they haven't worked a real job, so my money is on Cruz

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 3:15 PM. Reason : or maybe Carson so he can say he doesn't hate black people]

3/15/2016 3:14:10 PM

Quote :

"Speaking on 'free' education is pandering to a group of people who, for the most part, have never had a serious job or paid serious taxes or knows how the real world works."

Educational generally is an investment that pays off for society. Giving students who work hard through high school a way to continue to educate themselves (even through community colleges) isn't a fantasy, it's practically a necessity when our industrialized peers are doing the same thing, and isn't that expensive either.

Trickle down economics, i think we can all agree, have been an abject failure. Automation is changing the nature of manufacturing in America, and more importantly manufacturing in other countries-- they're becoming less reliant on human labor.

Our peers are focusing their policies to support in their people rather than their corporations, and we'll fall behind if we don't start doing the same thing.

3/15/2016 3:53:33 PM

If you want higher education to become shitty, just make it free. We can go from having the best colleges in the world to having colleges on par with our K-12 system.

3/15/2016 3:58:18 PM

^ that's idiocy, because free college doesn't mean everyone goes to college, it doesn't mean the admission standards drop. The problem with k-12 is that you have to try and cater to all intellects. Free college still means only hard working/intelligent people get into college. The main difference is that a poor person has reason an incentive to work hard through grade school, which doesn't exist now.

3/15/2016 4:02:29 PM

it would actually make schools more competitive

3/15/2016 4:05:17 PM

^^^I don't understand your logic. Currently, for the most part, only well-to-do and "entitled" kids get to go to college (and those who get loans that they pay the rest of their lives). Allowing kids that previously couldn't afford it, while keeping the standards the same, will only increase the competition, and presumably some of the lazier or less intelligent kids that are getting in now will be denied (as mentioned above).

Why do you think making college free will make higher education become "shitty"?

3/15/2016 4:16:38 PM

I don't understand why we don't trial this out...

just start with one free accredited online degree in a single major (like...computer science or some other shit that can be taught exclusively online). have tests administered at testing centers (to eliminate cheating). then we can see if it cheapens the degree or if it really makes a difference. if it works, expand from there.

3/15/2016 5:14:18 PM

I don't feel like that's enough to be useful

3/15/2016 5:41:55 PM

how so?

3/15/2016 5:44:11 PM

Quote :

"I don't understand why we don't trial this out... just start with one free accredited online degree in a single major (like...computer science or some other shit that can be taught exclusively online). have tests administered at testing centers (to eliminate cheating). then we can see if it cheapens the degree or if it really makes a difference. if it works, expand from there."

I think free college is a good idea, but the federal government needs to stay out. The federal government time and time again has proven it can't run programs like this correctly. IIRC Georgia had/has a program funded by the lottery where you can go to a state college in Georgia for free as long as you graduate from a Georgia High School with a 3.0 gpa. If a state can somehow make something like that work then let them do it, but if they can't then the federal government needs to stay out. I'm sick of all the class warfare preaching by the liberals. It will eventually run our government broke.

3/15/2016 5:58:15 PM

Hahaha calm down ain't nobody going broke.

3/15/2016 8:09:48 PM

anyone who mentions one word about raising taxes does not have mine (or yours) best interest in mind.

The problem with these 'free' programs is that the federal gov't gets involved and it becomes full of corruption.

Even happens at the state level. We passed the 'education' lottery here in NC. Millions upon millions of dollars are then brought into the state funds.....it wasn't long that we hear that teachers can't get raises because the money just isn't there. How did that happen?

I didn't say people were poor because they hadn't worked a real job, I was referring to the college kids who are loving Bernie cause he might provide 'free' college, but they don't understand where the money comes from, having never been in the real world and whatnot. Just as dangerous as black people voting for Obama blindly.

3/15/2016 9:11:45 PM

Are you a fuck you, got mine guy?

Because, personally, I don't mind paying a bit more in taxes if it goes to the right places (which is to those less fortunate then me). I realize that isn't in my best interest I guess but I'm ok with it.

3/15/2016 9:14:40 PM

Nobody wants to pay more taxes

3/15/2016 9:30:56 PM

Make all money earned over 5 mill carry a 95% tax rate.

Maybe cliffy b will get effected by this. Everyone else is bullshit middle management at a bogus engineering firm.

3/15/2016 9:58:21 PM

such a bummer that so many get taxed so much that they no longer have any money to spend

3/15/2016 10:05:29 PM

I don't have an issue with higher taxes; the issue I have is with the rampant waste and inefficiency of our tax dollars. Our military and federal government piss away money through incompetent contracting and sweetheart deals. We pay extra for projects earmarked for "disadvantaged" businesses with the intent of trying to help out women owned, veteran owned, and native American/HUBZONE businesses, only to have shell companies set up as such turn around and subcontract out the normal contractors to do the work. We provide tax incentives to companies installing solar panels, but then did nothing when China was artificially lowering the costs of their solar panels and effectively driving American manufacturing out of the picture.

Here in Maryland, these idiots managed to pass a rain tax, forcing homeowners to pay additional taxes under the premise that their roof was somehow responsible for the stormwater runoff/pollution issues in the Chesapeake. While the largest contributors in this state to bay pollution, the Navy and the SHA, are exempt to paying for their runoff issues, homeowners get stuck with the bill regardless of whether or not their properties actually have runoff issues. The details on where the money actually gets spent is very murky as well. I'd be OK with the tax if it were actually being used to clean up the Bay, but the money is most likely being spent on paying for state and county environmental agencies to further complicate the permitting processes for new construction.

3/15/2016 10:42:44 PM

Quote :

"but then did nothing when China was artificially lowering the costs of their solar panels and effectively driving American manufacturing out of the picture."

actually, what we did was have the GOP leadership paint obama as some sort of eco energy terrorist who likes to waste government money on solar.

3/15/2016 11:05:57 PM

Quote :

"I don't have an issue with higher taxes; the issue I have is with the rampant waste and inefficiency of our tax dollars. Our military and federal government piss away money through incompetent contracting and sweetheart deals. We pay extra for projects earmarked for "disadvantaged" businesses with the intent of trying to help out women owned, veteran owned, and native American/HUBZONE businesses, only to have shell companies set up as such turn around and subcontract out the normal contractors to do the work. We provide tax incentives to companies installing solar panels, but then did nothing when China was artificially lowering the costs of their solar panels and effectively driving American manufacturing out of the picture. Here in Maryland, these idiots managed to pass a rain tax, forcing homeowners to pay additional taxes under the premise that their roof was somehow responsible for the stormwater runoff/pollution issues in the Chesapeake. While the largest contributors in this state to bay pollution, the Navy and the SHA, are exempt to paying for their runoff issues, homeowners get stuck with the bill regardless of whether or not their properties actually have runoff issues. The details on where the money actually gets spent is very murky as well. I'd be OK with the tax if it were actually being used to clean up the Bay, but the money is most likely being spent on paying for state and county environmental agencies to further complicate the permitting processes for new construction."

Well said. The government has yet to prove they can run programs correctly. The more the government gets involved the more everything becomes a mess.

3/15/2016 11:13:08 PM

In the governments defense plenty of corporations are fucking first class at being inefficient and incompetent.

Try calling ATT about your uVerse bill or Blue Cross about your health insurance lately? They connect you to the stupidest fucker they can find after making you waste 30 minutes trying to get through their IVR then sitting on hold.

3/15/2016 11:57:03 PM

Quote :

"Try calling ATT about your uVerse bill or Blue Cross about your health insurance lately? They connect you to the stupidest fucker they can find after making you waste 30 minutes trying to get through their IVR then sitting on hold."

That's by design not inefficiency

3/16/2016 12:00:42 AM

Quote :

"Well said. The government has yet to prove they can run programs correctly. The more the government gets involved the more everything becomes a mess. "

This isn't really true, you must not have been to other countries where the government is WAAY worse.

Our government isn't perfect, but there are hundreds of agencies that run without major glitches, that you never hear about, because nothing's wrong. You only hear about the problem, which is a selectivity bias that you use to feed your confirmation bias.

And if you still believe the government can't do anything right, the solution isn't to choose a leader who has an even worse track record of running successful businesses (Trump), or who want to make our lives more miserable by either making the government agencies run less efficiently or just tear the whole system down (most other Republicans).

If your garage door was broken, you wouldn't burn your house down to eliminate the problem, and you wouldn't hire an entertainer and take their advice, you'd find someone knowledgeable about the issue who's interested in actually fixing things.

[Edited on March 16, 2016 at 2:41 AM. Reason : ]

3/16/2016 2:40:45 AM

Biggest upside to a Trump presidency is that we'll finally have a legitimately hot first lady. Up until now Jackie O was at the top of the list, and I'm being generous when I say she was a 6 or 6 and a half.

3/16/2016 5:32:14 AM

There's no way Trump will beat Hillary, so we all might as well get used to the same kind of shit we've had for the last 8 years. Gridlock in DC because no one will be willing to go along with Clinton.

Except this time the narrative will be the Republicans hate her because she's a woman, not because of race.

3/16/2016 7:14:39 AM

^ the gridlock in congress seems more a problem with congress than it does with the sitting or future president. If they (I'm pointing the finger at tea parties) want to compromise then they will, regardless of who is sitting in the Oval Office. If they want to sit in pout in obstruction for 4 or 8 years because they didn't get their way in the presidential election, then they will do that as well.
It seems silly to me to place the onus of congressional cooperation so heavily on the POTUS.

3/16/2016 7:22:14 AM

How can you say that you don't mind paying more taxes, but in the same sentence, point out that our govt' is ripe with inefficiencies? How can you be ok giving the government one more penny when they have proven time and time again that the money is wasted? How much more of your paycheck are you willing to let the government take? Just because you can still pay your bills and drive a shitty used car doesn't make it ok that the gov't takes about 50% of the average working person's income every year. More taxes won't help a thing. Stopping waste, backdoor deals, and gutting the IRS will help tremendously. Then we can talk about higher taxes, if someone can make a legitimate case for it.

It IS true that the US government is bloated, inefficient, and wasteful. Just because other counties are worse than us, does not excuse it. Most other corrupt countries don't have the checks and balances that we do, nor the voting setup that we do, where we can get rid of corrupt politicians every few years. (we don't though)

I do not think Hillary can stand up to Trump. She is a criminal (documented) that has never done anything meaningful in the private sector in her life.

3/16/2016 7:54:21 AM

Trump lost money running businesses and not investing his inheritance in a passive ETF. That seems pretty inefficient too.

3/16/2016 8:02:22 AM

Quote :

"I do not think Hillary can stand up to Trump. "

I think the reverse is true. Trump is so divisive (yes, Clinton is as well...but to a lesser degree) that I think if it's Trump v Clinton, Clinton wins easily.



from ABC News Politics Twitter last night

and this as well



Clinton is polarizing and unlikable - but it seems like that divisiveness is much, much stronger within the GOP towards their own potential nominee than it is toward Clinton in her own party. In other words, I don't think Clinton is losing democrat voters in the general like Trump would lose GOP voters.

3/16/2016 8:05:29 AM

Gutting the IRS saves money?

I would argue the exact opposite. Cutting the IRS funds yields fewer agents available to actually catch those individuals and businesses cheating on their taxes. THAT costs MORE money.

3/16/2016 8:07:27 AM

didn't lose one single dime of my money though. HUGE difference. The gov't takes money by force, and when they get it, they squander it. There are no repercussions. Of course it will be corrupt. I've started businesses and made and lost money. Gone out of biz too. It happens. And I'm no where close to rich, wealthy, or even comfortable at this moment.

Being the best/richest businessman proves nothing. What does prove something is being able to fail and come back from it. Sure, he used tax loopholes and all sorts of trickery to make money, but the lawmakers allow it, and that's how business is done in this country.

3/16/2016 8:08:29 AM

If the election was held next week I would agree with you but I have a feeling when push comes to shove a lot more of those saying they won't vote for Trump will change their minds come November. Either way, going to be one interesting election.

3/16/2016 8:09:24 AM

man, the IRS can be gutted when the tax code is short, clear, and concise.

We can't gut the IRS now, you are correct. Too many cheats out there, due to the asinine tax laws.

You think Cruz/Rubio supporters will vote for Hillary? I don't think so.

[Edited on March 16, 2016 at 8:12 AM. Reason : asdf]

3/16/2016 8:10:13 AM