there is no real way to spin this as anything other than being awful and a horrible look

3/24/2016 2:13:41 PM

Alright, let's keep this in perspective. Players transfer, it's the landscape of college basketball. We have had transfers both in and out of our program for the last few years. Even Duke has had its share of transfers:

2015 - Rasheed Sulaimon
2014 - Semi Ojeleye
2014 - Alex Murphy
2012 - Michael Gbinijie

3/24/2016 2:18:25 PM

Said something about the offensive scheme.

I wonder where they will end up. I assume they will look to go to the same team again.

3/24/2016 2:20:31 PM

Maryland had all those players transfer and look at them now. But again, this is State we're talking about

3/24/2016 2:23:21 PM

damn I hope Torin Dorn is good

3/24/2016 2:25:26 PM

Quote :

"Said something about the offensive scheme."

well he is 100% correct about that. they are long athletic wings forced to run a b.s. halfcourt high post offense. uptempo small ball would be great for them.

3/24/2016 2:34:01 PM

Oof . Gottfried has to be fired now I think... it's just out of control. What is he doing to run these guys off?!

Not gonna be able to recruit anymore with all these transfers abandoning ship

3/24/2016 2:38:46 PM

Quote :

"Alright, let's keep this in perspective. Players transfer, it's the landscape of college basketball. We have had transfers both in and out of our program for the last few years. Even Duke has had its share of transfers: 2015 - Rasheed Sulaimon 2014 - Semi Ojeleye 2014 - Alex Murphy 2012 - Michael Gbinijie"

The difference is that Duke reloads every year and has the best coach in the country

3/24/2016 2:40:19 PM

why is Sulaimon on that list?

3/24/2016 2:57:39 PM

We have players from lsu, Alabama, Charlotte, WVU.. It's how basketball is. Sucks that they're a package deal. But if we land another 1-2 then we're fine.

Or fire him. Whatever

3/24/2016 3:08:35 PM

Quote :

"Oof . Gottfried has to be fired now I think... it's just out of control. What is he doing to run these guys off?!"

i think he recruits over players and the guys that are recruited over don't wanna stay. maybe he promised the Martin's playing time and now they see writing on the wall that their minutes will go down next year. rather than take reduced minutes and contribute to a a really good team with title aspirations (like somebody might at, say, UNC) a player that gets recruited over at a mediocre program says "fuck it, imma go start somewhere else". it sucks

3/24/2016 3:43:48 PM

who was gonna play over them?

WE HAVE NO ONE COMING IN AT THEIR POSITIONS

[Edited on March 24, 2016 at 3:50 PM. Reason : but i forgot that gott loves him some maverick, no matter how shitty he is.]

3/24/2016 3:50:09 PM

Sucks to lose the twins ... they'd be great depth if nothing else. Really thought Cody could be a great PF if we played small ball. Gotta think they took a look at Dorn and Henderson and realized their playing time was about to be cut in half.

So I guess we're back to being one injury away from another dumpster fire. We can go 7-8 deep, but it's gonna get ugly if one of the guards gets hurt.

Smith / Dorn?
Dorn / Mav
Henderson / Mav / Kirk
Abu / Anya / Kirk?
Freeman / Anya


[Edited on March 24, 2016 at 3:54 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2016 3:51:08 PM

^no way.

3/24/2016 3:53:43 PM

?

3/24/2016 3:56:02 PM

Quote :

"who was gonna play over them? WE HAVE NO ONE COMING IN AT THEIR POSITIONS "

between Dorn and Henderson, their minutes were gonna go down some, right? not exactly the same position, but you can see where their arrival would mean less minutes/shots/etc for the Martins.

3/24/2016 4:02:11 PM

Who knows about Freeman, and I would think Mav would see the most minutes lost. Cats minutes won't all be replaced by DSJ, so Henderson and Dorn will take some of those too.. But maybe gott does love Mav that much

3/24/2016 4:05:30 PM

I HOPE THEY BOTH GET PISSED ON AND END UP PLAYING FOR ECU OR ST. JOHNS WERE THEY WILL SUCK AGIAN NEXT YEAR. SELFISH LOSERS

3/24/2016 4:06:36 PM

^^he does. it's gross.

we're going to be terrible next year, so wherever they go, they'll probably be better off.

3/24/2016 4:06:52 PM

it sucks to lose the martins...but were they gonna start next year? that's what i'm talking about when i said they might be losing minutes.

DSJ
Henderson
Mav
Abu
Anya

maybe Caleb starts over Mav, but that wasn't the case down the stretch this year. i don't wanna see the Martins go, but I can see where they saw a smaller role for themselves next year.

3/24/2016 4:10:09 PM

I think Mav had to play for spacing. With Henderson and Dorn also being shooters it kinda makes Mav less valuable. But again, gott likes who he likes so I guess we'll see.

I'd go Cody at 4 and Anya on the bench.. But that's just me

[Edited on March 24, 2016 at 4:15 PM. Reason : ~]

3/24/2016 4:14:19 PM

I think they end up somewhere where Caleb is pretty much the star of the team and Cody is a solid starter. In my mind that's a mid-major somewhere.

Saw some grumblings on Packpride that Gottfried's "infidelity" is having an effect on morale, etc.

3/24/2016 4:43:13 PM

what in the world does that mean? Hasn't Gott been divorced for 2 years now?

3/24/2016 4:49:06 PM

^
Which was also posted on Packpride in reply, which ^^ did not bother to read.

But I'd agree that Gott has gone downhill after his divorce. Of course that can happen when you're a Family oriented gentleman like Gott is, or was.

[Edited on March 24, 2016 at 4:55 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2016 4:53:57 PM

Quote :

"Saw some grumblings on Packpride that Gottfried's "infidelity" is having an effect on morale, etc."

I don't buy that for a second. I wouldn't be shocked to learn that some players do have real issues with Gott as a coach...but I don't buy then shit about his "infidelity".

3/24/2016 5:14:37 PM

Abu to NBA Draft, has not signed with agent.

3/24/2016 6:05:18 PM

^to be fair, don't think that's super surprising that he's gonna go through the new process to get feedback. if he actually does go pro then

ahaahahahahahahhahaah fuck next year will be something

3/24/2016 6:16:32 PM

^^chill...no agent, just getting a valuation of his stock

[Edited on March 24, 2016 at 6:19 PM. Reason : what ^ said]

3/24/2016 6:19:08 PM

like JT3bucky said in a different thread...assuming Abu doesn't go pro, this should still show his mindset. and i think it's reasonable to expect him to be gone next season. which makes signing a big man recruit more important this offseason (or a transfer). can't afford to go into '17/'18 with all freshmen big men.

3/24/2016 6:30:25 PM

gott said the if Abu isn't a first rounder he'll be back. so i'm sure he'll be back in that case.

3/24/2016 7:14:17 PM

God I hope so.

3/24/2016 9:06:21 PM

At least now Gott can promise some early playing time and mean it.

3/24/2016 10:48:32 PM

Just realized of the 7 ACC teams that made the tournament, only Syracuse was in our division (though Notre Dame isn't in either division)

3/25/2016 12:04:15 AM

what do football divisions have to do with basketball?

[Edited on March 25, 2016 at 12:25 AM. Reason : kg]

3/25/2016 12:09:12 AM

Treetwista cant stop talking about football

3/25/2016 1:47:25 AM

just thought it was interesting

3/25/2016 8:30:39 PM

how is it interesting though?

3/26/2016 1:18:14 AM

Well our school is gonna make a crap load of money off this tournament. Can we buy new players with that

3/26/2016 5:42:20 AM

Swimming and Diving finished 4th nationally. Didn't know where to post this. Wrestling had an outstanding season. The non-revenue sports are really improving under Debbie. Wish we could get football, basketball, and baseball on track.

3/26/2016 9:02:36 PM

I thought we were slipping in the director's cup standings? Maybe that was just based on fall sports.

3/26/2016 9:41:29 PM

ADs shouldnt be rewarded for the nonrevenue sports doing well if the revenue ones arent.

3/26/2016 9:49:01 PM

^^Not at all. Last update up to 14th. I believe our highest ever since they started the rankings.

3/26/2016 10:24:38 PM

That's awesome I'd probably discuss this I the Debbie yow credibility thread.

3/26/2016 10:51:56 PM

i think our bad basketball season and women's bball not making the tourney will hurt our director's rankings when those seasons end.

3/27/2016 8:00:46 AM

So, this thread is basically over already, right?

3/27/2016 11:54:56 PM

we start cheating yet?

3/28/2016 12:34:15 AM

I'd start a 2017/2018 thread but it would just get locked

3/28/2016 1:11:21 AM

Butch Pierre hired as assistant coach.

Should help in recruiting tremendously.

3/31/2016 5:28:19 PM

This is good, claymation of '83 championship "The Hug"

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/watch/claymation-nc-state-buzzer-beating-follow-dunk-beats-houston-in-1983/vi-BBrbxMC

4/1/2016 9:25:11 AM

Alright ABCers, back to supporting the dumpster fire that is our own school

4/5/2016 12:48:19 AM