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"They claimed to think it was a bomb hoax."

They claimed it was a bomb hoax despite him claiming it was merely a clock? I continue to call bullshit. Hoax requires intent.

6/15/2016 6:13:39 PM

http://www.vice.com/read/what-isis-is-saying-about-the-orlando-shooter?utm_source=vicefbus&utm_campaign=global

Interesting report on what isis is saying.

6/15/2016 7:58:25 PM

Last night or the night before Rachel Maddow actually had a really good breakdown of ISIS encouraging attacks by people in the West. Basically they said, go ahead and attack soft targets, no need to ask us permission or for help with planning. Blow stuff up, shoot people, just make a public declaration that this is for us immediately before or during the act.

6/15/2016 8:08:21 PM

^^^

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"Y'all, the kid took the casing off of an old clock, put the clock guts in a pencil case that resembled a briefcase, tied it up, and then apparently set it to go off during class. If it was intended to be a bomb hoax, it was pitiful and not an offense I think he should be charged with criminally. However, I'm unclear how y'all are all so sure that he wasn't attempting to prank someone at some point throughout the day. We're talking about a 14 year-old, guys--they lie and do stupid stuff all the time."

Was a public school out to get Ahmed, or is it possible that Ahmed was playing a little joke and unfortunately had to learn about the zero tolerance policies schools are required to enforce these days?

To be clear, I suspect that Ahmed's cool, and the school's cool. But a whole bunch of other people suuuuuck--you may be one of those people who sucks.

6/15/2016 10:03:13 PM

^Yeah, I might be. It just now crossed my mind for the first time that you might be one of the ones that suck, too. Welcome!

6/15/2016 10:59:14 PM

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"They claimed it was a bomb hoax despite him claiming it was merely a clock? I continue to call bullshit. Hoax requires intent."

Nobody "claimed" anything. It was investigated whether or not he was trying to cause a bomb scare. No charges were made. The teacher told him "it looked like a bomb" and told him to put it away. He had the alarm go off during class. He did not cooperate with school officials at all, probably because his father is a political activist and arranged this entire thing and threatened the school with a $15 million lawsuit, and refused to release the details to the public.

It's a lot easier to scream "ISLAMAPHOBIA #ISTANDWITHAHMED" than it is to actually know what happens, given the liberal media's desire to spread this false narrative.

So your original point doesn't hold up... as I said, people like you can't tell the difference between "Islamaphobia" and reasonable concern. I gotta give props to Ahmed's dad though, it was quite a scam, he played the entire virtue-signaling SJWs for chumps then headed off to Qatar with tons of free shit.

6/16/2016 12:17:44 AM

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/house-gop-blocks-vote-lgbt-rights-amendment?mbid=social_twitter

Great job Republicans. I'm sure the thoughts/prayers were enough.

6/16/2016 12:36:51 AM

^^Earlier:

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"They claimed to think it was a bomb hoax. "

And now:

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"Nobody "claimed" anything"

Whatever, dude. Make up your fucking mind.

At any rate, you've made it absolutely clear there that the people at the school knew there was never any danger: At worst it was a bomb HOAX.

I stand by my original claim when it comes to reporting terrorist threats.

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"If all you can report is "He/She's Muslim" then you have no evidence. If you have actual evidence then no one will confuse that with Islamophobia. This isn't hard you fucking retard."

By your own admission, the school had no actual evidence of a terrorist threat in this case.

6/16/2016 12:50:46 AM

Shooter was apparently posting on his face page and making phone calls during attack. Maybe someone could have tackled his ass if he had the time to do that crap

[Edited on June 16, 2016 at 8:33 AM. Reason : R]

6/16/2016 8:31:05 AM

sure, if someone was aware of where he always was, was aware that he was posting, was sure there wasn't another shooter, was sure that he wasn't giving them enough attention to quickly stop posting and turn the gun on them when they started moving, was sober enough to make critical decisions, was calm and objective despite being in a situation more traumatic and stressful than they have ever experienced of were prepared for, etc...

yeah, sure, then maybe someone could have tackled the guy

you god damn moronic dipshit

6/16/2016 8:53:44 AM

If only some of the TWW Heroes had been in Pulse that night...

6/16/2016 8:56:28 AM

^ Seriously! That stuff is more annoying than any of the other nonsense that people spew after an event like this. No one has ANY idea what they would do in a scenario like this, no matter what they say. There are too many things factoring in to know.

One of you guys saying all this junk would have been the clown who apparently escaped through an outside door and shut it on other people trying to escape, telling them to "stay inside, stay inside" because "he thought it was the best thing to do at the time."

[Edited on June 16, 2016 at 10:50 AM. Reason : OTHER]

6/16/2016 10:49:53 AM

https://thetab.com/us/2016/06/14/i-was-able-to-buy-an-ar-15-in-five-minutes-19833

6/16/2016 11:10:33 AM

^Um, he didn't buy the gun. he didn't even fill out any of the paperwork.... which would have involved an instant background check. Kind of a pointless and very misleading blog post by a 20 year old.

6/16/2016 12:11:48 PM

Well I think the point is that is easily obtainable if you want to cause some destruction.

6/16/2016 12:42:23 PM

wouldn't that guy have gotten in trouble with a removable stock under 21? i didn't think the ATF allowed that

6/16/2016 1:04:25 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/apnewsbreak-woman-nightclub-shooter-stalked-39934128

Seems like the guy was just nuts, and has always been that way.

should help build a profile of what to look for in future investigations...

6/17/2016 6:59:49 PM

Orlando shooter texted wife during attack, source says - http://goo.gl/news/hNJB1?shr=t via http://news.google.com/

This is a really good article on some of the possible tip offs and some background.

Still haven't seen any reports on the timelines inside the club.

6/17/2016 10:29:44 PM

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" Investigators said he spoke to negotiators in three different calls at 2:48 a.m., 3:03 a.m. and 3:24 a.m. The longest call was the second at 16 minutes. The third call, at three minutes, was the shortest. The first call lasted nine minutes. ... The calls with crisis negotiators may explain why officials waited three hours -- until 5:14 a.m. -- before ramming a hole in the side of the club to free hostages and engage Mateen in a final, deadly fight. During those three hours, Mateen was holed up in a bathroom with several hostages, though authorities have said no gun shots were fired during this period."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/20/doj-releases-redacted-orlando-gunmans-911-calls.html

6/20/2016 3:13:14 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-mosque-omar-mateen-reported-fbi-article-1.2680959

Man who went to same mosque as Omar Mateen reported him to FBI

Starting to look like the FBI dropped the ball big time here.

6/20/2016 6:49:47 PM

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"Whatever, dude. Make up your fucking mind. At any rate, you've made it absolutely clear there that the people at the school knew there was never any danger: At worst it was a bomb HOAX. I stand by my original claim when it comes to reporting terrorist threats."

I'm sorry the "claim" semantics confused you. You are correct, the people at the school knew that at worst it was a bomb hoax.

That, however, is the point the SJW crowd completely missed:


Stupid shit like this goes viral and you SJW-types just eat it up... he was being investigated for a "bomb hoax". The same month this BS happened, a highschooler got in trouble for having a gun-shaped pop-tart... I guess that student's race/religion didn't align with the liberal "victim of the day" because it hardly got any attention.

So I stand by my original point, people like you have proven they cannot differentiate between actual evidence and Islamaphobia, and that leads to the culture of "being too PC" which leads to the San Bernardino neighbor being too afraid to speak up. Wouldn't want to be "Islamaphobic" for reporting neighbors making pipebombs, would we?

6/21/2016 1:36:42 AM

^hears about pop-tart kid through the media....mad that the media didn't report on the pop-tart kid.

6/21/2016 2:12:48 PM

I'm sure the POTUS and HillDawg would do some virtue-signaling and tweet their support to the pop-tart kid had his victimhood status been ranked higher at the time.

6/21/2016 2:58:28 PM

yo dawg

6/21/2016 3:17:26 PM

^^didn't realize POTUS was a member of the media. got it.

6/21/2016 4:48:48 PM

JCE is one of those who thinks racism against whites is the biggest social problem the country faces I'm sure.

6/21/2016 4:55:06 PM

Who am I to determine the biggest "social problem" the country faces? That is to be dictated to us by the liberal elite, who are kind enough to fabricate "social problems" in 2016 to distract and divide us.

Current victim hierarchy:

1. Muslims
2. Transgenders
3. Black People
4. Gays
5. Women

6/21/2016 5:40:17 PM

FBI has no idea where possible co-conspirator wife be at.

6/21/2016 6:46:16 PM

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"...which leads to the San Bernardino neighbor being too afraid to speak up. Wouldn't want to be "Islamaphobic" for reporting neighbors making pipebombs, would we?"

Bullshit. You got any kind of cite showing neighbors knew pipe bombs were being manufactured in the San Bernardino case?

And why stop at Pop-Tart boy? (BTW, your memory of when that happened is off; it wasn't concurrent with the clock bomb hoax).

The past several years have seen a shitload of stories of zero tolerance at schools. A few:

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/11/467823-12-zero-tolerance-policy-incidents-that-were-too-ridiculous-for-words/

I know at least some of these were major mainstream media news, unlike you seem to think.

I think you're right about one thing: The clock bomb hoax kid is a topic more suited to zero tolerance policies at schools than it is a topic of Islamophobia versus evidence of terrorism--there never was any evidence of terrorism in the clock bomb case, you said so yourself.

6/21/2016 7:29:59 PM

There was a lot more to the pop tart gun kid.

6/21/2016 7:37:54 PM

^ I just skimmed over that for the first time, but like what?

6/21/2016 8:51:12 PM

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"I think you're right about one thing: The clock bomb hoax kid is a topic more suited to zero tolerance policies at schools than it is a topic of Islamophobia"

...right, which was my original point the entire time? About you people being unable to differentiate between "Islamaphobia" narratives and standard procedures... remember?

In the current atmosphere created by clickbait headlines and liberal social media, things are deemed racist/sexist/phobic until proven not so. The burden of proof is on the accused, and even in those cases it isn't enough as the damage to reputation is already done. The media doesn't care what actually happens, they just want to frame it to fit a divisive narrative of racism/islamaphobia/bigotry because those allow for more clicks and go viral faster (because people, like you, don't think).

6/22/2016 1:09:31 PM

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6/22/2016 1:14:31 PM

^^Holy shit, why is this so important to you that you constantly come to this website and post long, rambling posts. Seriously, why are you so obsessed over this?

[Edited on June 22, 2016 at 1:15 PM. Reason : ]

6/22/2016 1:15:04 PM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/21/man_says_he_was_orlando_shooter_s_gay_lover_says_omar_mateen_targeted_latinos.html

[Edited on June 22, 2016 at 1:28 PM. Reason : seems legit]

6/22/2016 1:28:35 PM

Pop tart gun kid was a problem child at that school. He had a long history of being disruptive and a general pain in the ass. He had been suspended multiple times for his behavior. This was another instance of him being disruptive, but he happened to do so with a gun-shaped pop tart that time.

6/22/2016 1:52:21 PM

^^^^^Your original point the entire time was to shift the discussion away from terrorism over to school disciplinary matters? Whatever works for you, bro.

And I'm still waiting on this:

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"...which leads to the San Bernardino neighbor being too afraid to speak up. Wouldn't want to be "Islamaphobic" for reporting neighbors making pipebombs, would we?"

Bullshit. You got any kind of cite showing neighbors knew pipe bombs were being manufactured in the San Bernardino case?

6/22/2016 4:47:24 PM

(i think there were reports that neighbors noticed multiple brown-skinned people around the garage, and loud noises coming from the garage late at night, or something like that)

6/22/2016 4:57:26 PM

^ yeah there were. But that's not reason enough to report someone. Or you can report someone, but the FBI is just going to ignore you, because that's not an actionable report. Just like the gun store in orlando that had a blurry picture, no name, and information that some sketchy guy was trying to buy body armor.

Yeah, your intuition might be right, but you can't ignore the 4th amendment because of vague insinuations.

In Orlando, the FBI should have taken the report from his fellow mosque attendee more seriously. This seems to be what triggered the 2014 investigation, but seems like there should be follow-ups in that kind of situation.

6/22/2016 5:15:36 PM

I'll never understand why people still respond to the bot known as JCE2011

6/22/2016 5:21:18 PM

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"^^Holy shit, why is this so important to you that you constantly come to this website and post long, rambling posts. Seriously, why are you so obsessed over this?"

I'd ask that question to the SJW posters. They are the ones that constantly bump their threads with anecdotal links, all I do is respond to them. Why is it so important for synapse and moron to relay their Huffingtonpost pseudoscience liberal clickbait? They sure love to spam any anecdotal link suggesting America is a racist, gun-crazy hell hole... Interesting that they are motivated enough to do that over the years, yet can't actually defend their links (outside of character attacks and insults).

6/22/2016 8:16:55 PM

...Meanwhile, your claim that the San Bernardino shooters slipped through the cracks due to fears of Islamophobia accusations is the real reality, huh? No cite needed, it's just the God-given Truth.

Have I got that right?

6/22/2016 8:47:31 PM

Everyone realizes that brown dudes ran a child sex ring for over a decade, and the police knowingly did nothing about it...specifically because they were concerned about the "sensitive diversity issue."

And they were not successful pimps, and these were not polite girls. These were the kinda 14 year-olds who'd stumble up into the police station drunk and tell the whole place what was happening. And nothing was done to protect them.


Whether it's FLDS or some Muslims in a far off land, I'm gonna at least raise a brow. Meanwhile, y'all are some enormous pussies for hiding behind some notion of cultural relativism.

6/22/2016 8:59:31 PM

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"SJW posters. anecdotal links. Huffingtonpost pseudoscience liberal clickbait. love spam any anecdotal link. America racist, gun-crazy hell hole."

JCE bot poetry, folks. And they said the first real robots would be used for sex...

[Edited on June 22, 2016 at 9:29 PM. Reason : .]

6/22/2016 9:28:50 PM

^^ I would like a link for this sex case.

6/22/2016 11:11:14 PM

^^^ I will agree to that.

Same issue (burying the truth) with the millennium attacks in Cologne and some Scandinavian countries.

6/23/2016 12:23:16 AM

Germany

6/23/2016 11:54:47 AM

What's wrong with Germany? It was one guy, no hostages, and potentially not even a real gun. But information is still coming in.

6/23/2016 12:27:37 PM

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"German police shot and killed a gun-toting man Thursday after the masked attacker stormed a movie theater and opened fire, police said. None of the moviegoers was shot, although as many as 25 people may have been injured by tear gas, local media reported. ... Initial media reports suggested that as many as 50 people had been injured inside the movie theater, although police insisted that only the attacker, who was killed by cops, was shot. "

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/50-injured-germany-movie-theater-shooting-article-1.2685046

6/23/2016 12:40:48 PM

Crazy guy enters theater, is (luckily) a bad shot, civilians get injured by police.

6/23/2016 12:48:19 PM