FIRE LOWE

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3/3/2008 8:48:14 AM

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"The Duke game was the first game that Javi had a pretty solid all-around game. We about beat the best team in the conference. "

Woah woah there.

The Duke game was an EXCELLENT game for Javi. He's had plenty of "solid all-around games". And Duke is not the best team in the conference. UNC is the better team by far...Duke hasn't even been playing that well lately.

Slow down buddy.

3/3/2008 10:18:22 AM

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"I don't understand why no one can understand that. GUARD PLAY WINS GAMES.... ALWAYS!"

o rly

-herb

3/3/2008 10:39:04 AM

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"FIRE LOWE"

That has got to be one of the most stupid comments...he has been here for 2 years...the ONLY reason he is getting flack is because the MEDIA picked us to be 3rd in the ACC...if they would have said 8th, nobody would be that mad....its always good for a school to attract a great coach when they have gone threw 2 coaches in 3 years ....

3/3/2008 11:46:14 AM

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"the ONLY reason he is getting flack is because the MEDIA picked us to be 3rd we are last in the ACC"

fixed that for ya

3/3/2008 11:52:43 AM

^^Uh, we're in last place and have been routinely blown out at home and away by shitty teams. That's why he's catching flak, not because we didn't finish 3rd.

3/3/2008 11:53:56 AM

Miami Raleigh, N.C. 79 - 77 (W) OT
Georgia Tech Raleigh, N.C. 74 - 77 (L) by 3
Wake Forest Raleigh, N.C. 67 - 65 (W)
Virginia Tech Raleigh, N.C. 73 - 63 (W)
Clemson Raleigh, N.C. 64 - 71 (L) by 7
North Carolina Raleigh, N.C. 70 - 84 (L) by 6
Florida State Raleigh, N.C. 62 - 72 (L) by 10
Duke Raleigh, N.C. 86 - 87 (L) by 1

Exactly who has "blown" us out at home??? I give you going 3-5 at home in the ACC is horrible, but to say Lowe desirves to be fired after 2 years is ridiculous...Everyone keeps saying that Lowe should have called a TO at the end of the Duke game....McCauley and Gonzalez should have FREE throws...

and last time I checked Virgina was last in the ACC...

[Edited on March 3, 2008 at 12:09 PM. Reason : ]

3/3/2008 12:08:24 PM

^^^^THOSE HAVE GOT TO BE THE MOST RETARDED COMMENTS EVER

HE IS GETTING FLACK BECAUSE HE FUCKING COACHED THE TEAM TO LAST PLACE IN THE ACC AND FOR BEING AN EMBARRASSMENT TO COLLEGE BASKETBALL.

AS A COLLEGE BASKETBALL COACH, YOU ARE HIRED TO WIN, AND WHEN YOU DONT, YOU TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE FLACK. THE MEDIA MADE A PREDICTION, AND ANYONE WITH ANY COMMON SENSE KNOWS THAT PREDICTIONS DONT MEAN SHIT.

[Edited on March 3, 2008 at 12:13 PM. Reason : ASD]

3/3/2008 12:13:05 PM

I AM ANGRY

3/3/2008 12:16:26 PM

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"ANYONE WITH ANY COMMON SENSE KNOWS THAT PREDICTIONS DONT MEAN SHIT."

because none of you believed we would be that good...say what you want...he is having a dissappointing seasons...but to say he should be fired after TWO DAMN season, with one full recruiting class of his own is....

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"GOT TO BE THE MOST RETARDED COMMENTS EVER"

[Edited on March 3, 2008 at 12:20 PM. Reason : ]

3/3/2008 12:20:12 PM

^The thing is...there are like two people (maybe), saying he should be fired after two seasons.

Most of us are just saying he has done a terrible coaching job this year.

3/3/2008 12:23:25 PM

Can we just wait until Sidney has his own seniors? I mean shit we have one of the best forwards in J.J Hickson and have SERIOUS consideration from THE BEST point guard recruit in the country (John Wall) and THE BEST center in the nation ( Derrick Favors). Also we still have consideration from Lorenzo Brown and a verbal commit from C.J Leslie (John Walls current teammate).

Give Sidney a break, at least for now. Its not his fault some of our players decided to be lazy and not live up to their potential. cough cough COSTNER cough cough

3/3/2008 12:25:11 PM

^^ I can agree that it has been a bad season, and I can agree that he hasnt done the best coaching job this year, but if you look back my original argument is that he shouldnt be FIRED and the fact that some of our "fans" are saying he should be fired after 2 seasons is stupid...

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[Edited on March 3, 2008 at 12:26 PM. Reason : ]

3/3/2008 12:25:36 PM

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""FIRE LOWE" That has got to be one of the most stupid comments...he has been here for 2 years..."

look people, anyone who posts "FIRE LOWE" at this point is either trolling (90% chance) or a retard with no understanding about college basketball (10% chance).

either way, their trolling/retardation doesn't warrant a reply from those of us here to actually have a conversation.

3/3/2008 12:48:55 PM

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"Its not his fault some of our players decided to be lazy and not live up to their potential. cough cough COSTNER cough cough "

Yes but it is Sid's fault for not motivating the lazy players or not sitting them. Instead he waits till the season is almost over to start players who are hustling.

Sid has yet to show that he can motivate 18-21 year olds to play 40 minutes of basketball. This is the most underachieving team in the ACC by far. 100% of that is coaching. And all Sid does is blame the players.

You can bring in all the 5* talent you want but if you can't coach (Doh'erty) you can't win. Atleast UNC had the sense to fire him after 2 seasons.

Fire Fowler and let his replacement fire Lowe.

3/3/2008 2:11:25 PM

D'oh was there 3 years.

Thanks, though.

3/3/2008 2:14:32 PM

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"if you can't coach (Doh'erty) you can't win."

I think that also had a little something to do with the youth of his entire team.

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"Fire Fowler and let his replacement fire Lowe."

3/3/2008 2:15:38 PM

Ok. Doh coached 3 instead of 2.

Bet they wished they fired him after 2. Just like we will with Sid after next year.

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"I think that also had a little something to do with the youth of his entire team."

Are you kidding? He was a horrible coach. Don't get me wrong, I wish he was still there but he was a terrible coach.

3/3/2008 2:27:49 PM

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"Sid has yet to show that he can motivate 18-21 year olds to play 40 minutes of basketball."

DID YOU FORGET ABOUT THE ENTIRE SEASON LAST YEAR?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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3/3/2008 2:31:10 PM

^The ENTIRE season?? From my recollection, we played "motivated" for about 1/4 of the season.

3/3/2008 2:33:47 PM

I remember last season. I remember Atsur leading the team to the ACC championship game. I also saw the same team w/o Atsur. Looked a lot like the team this year.

3/3/2008 2:38:15 PM

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"^The ENTIRE season?? From my recollection, we played "motivated" for about 1/4 of the season"

Because we had good guard play

(and of course I'm using 'good' in a relative sense. Atsur was experienced and knew what Lowe wanted... he wasn't exactly a stat-stuffer, but he ran the offense well and played good defense)

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3/3/2008 2:53:00 PM

That's BS.

Although we did play better with Atsur last year...we didn't turn it on until the ACC tournament. We got spanked at Chapel Hill, at Tallahasee, at Atlanta, at Miami, and Maryland at home WITH Atsur in the 2nd half of the ACC.

People act like we were a top-15 team with Atsur last year...which is wrong. We just got some solid play from the team and an UNBELIEVABLE performance from Brandon Costner and we made a good run in the tourney. Its looking now like we just had a good hot streak at the end of the year.

3/3/2008 3:01:12 PM

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"North Carolina Raleigh, N.C. 70 - 84 (L) by 6"

MATH!!!

3/3/2008 3:34:37 PM

winning and playing motivated are not the same thing
i just want to point that out b/c i think some of you are confusing the 2

3/3/2008 4:25:45 PM

We did it!! Thanks Sidney Lowe.

3/3/2008 9:29:33 PM

Wow from 2nd best team in the ACC over a 5-year span to a tie for 10th one year and then 12th the next. We have hit rock bottom. Good thing is our expectations have to be down now. Next year we will be ready when we suck ass.

3/3/2008 9:45:22 PM

we used to at least be mediocre, now we're just horrific.

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3/3/2008 9:48:48 PM

GUYS GUYS, THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE WANTED!! FOR US TO GET WORSE, SO ITS OK

3/3/2008 9:52:58 PM

whatever you say, karim.

3/3/2008 10:10:05 PM

We got UNC and Duke right where we want them. There is no where to go but down for them and up for us.

3/3/2008 10:16:21 PM

We're one Ben McCauley dunk and one Gavin Grant steal away from being 2-13 in the ACC.

Has a #12 seed ever won the ACC Tourney?

3/3/2008 10:20:03 PM

were also one sketch foul call away from not having an old spice championship

3/3/2008 10:21:20 PM

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"Has a #12 seed ever won the ACC Tourney? "

Nope.

3/3/2008 10:56:30 PM

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"The 2001-02 season would not be nearly as enjoyable for Doherty and the Tar Heels as the loss of the previous year's seniors, combined with a roster full of untested freshmen, proved disastrous. The Tar Heels finished the season with a record of 8-20, missing postseason play entirely for the first time since the 1965-66 season (including a record 26 straight NCAA Tournament appearances) and finishing with a losing record for the first time since 1962 (Dean Smith's first year as coach). They also finished 4-12 in the ACC--only the program's second losing ACC record ever. The season also saw the end of UNC's run of 31 straight 20-win seasons and 35 straight seasons of finishing third or higher in the ACC. "

could be worse and they had a lot better players then we do now.

3/3/2008 11:03:50 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=3275815&sportCat=ncb

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"Bust of the Year: North Carolina State. A team expected to chase Duke and Carolina for the ACC title is now on a seven-game losing streak and struggling to stay out of the ACC basement. The home loss to the Blue Devils Saturday was capped by coach Sidney Lowe's curious decision not to foul while trailing by a point in the final minute; he let Duke run the shot clock to nothing and the game clock to about five seconds. Even with the rebound, State had no chance to get off a decent shot and blew an 13-point second-half lead."

At least we're finally getting some national attention.

3/4/2008 1:47:41 PM

This might have been discussed already but when Duke called a TO with about 18s on the game clock what did Sid tell the team? Play good D and then when we get the rebound throw up a half court shot?

There was an article in the N&O about the refs not seeing Sid try and call a TO. Did he even tell the team to consider calling a TO if they got the rebound? Did he talk to the team at all during that TO?

I'm having trouble understanding Sid's thought process. You don't foul and let Duke run the clock down to 5s and then don't instruct your team to call a TO when they get the rebound.

Sid should sit out the Wake game for that screw up.

3/4/2008 11:59:12 PM

^ in the press conference he did say that he tried to get the ref to give him a timeout. of course that doesn't change anything about letting the time run off.

3/5/2008 12:08:13 AM

^That doesn't answer the question of why he didn't instruct the players to call a TO if they got the rebound.

3/5/2008 9:43:43 AM

how do you know he didn't?

Did he say that he didn't?

3/5/2008 9:57:05 AM

The timeout really doesn't matter because we should have fouled them with 40 seconds left anyways and never put ourselves in that position.

3/5/2008 10:46:19 AM

I'm not complaining about shit. We looked great the entire game and amazing compared to the rest of the season. You bitches can whine about the last few minutes if you want. I'm just glad we didn't get pounded by 40.

That's not to say I don't agree with some things that happened. But I'm not going to waste time harping about it. Hopefully the good play continues until we're done playing, whenever that may be.

3/5/2008 10:51:12 AM

^^ thats a matter of opinion. Against Duke, fouling isn't always the answer. I think it said a lot that he had faith in the team to get the stop. They just screwed up on getting the timeout.

[Edited on March 5, 2008 at 10:51 AM. Reason : .]

3/5/2008 10:51:23 AM

No, it's not a matter of opinion. When given the option of extending the game or settling for a miracle play/shot with the clock expiring, you always extend the game. So what if he had gotten the time out. At best, there would have been 2 seconds left for a play from half court. Either way, you're asking for a prayer.

With that said, I agree with ^^, I just hope it wasn't a fluke and we're actually capable of playing like this consistently (I don't think we are).

[Edited on March 5, 2008 at 10:59 AM. Reason : :]

3/5/2008 10:55:14 AM

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"thats a matter of opinion. Against Duke, fouling isn't always the answer. I think it said a lot that he had faith in the team to get the stop. They just screwed up on getting the timeout."

Not really. What ^he said.

You'll find about 99.9% of people with adequate basketball knowledge would foul in that situation.

3/5/2008 11:22:47 AM

This was truly the WORST season I have ever witnessed in sports. From Nationally ranked to nationally humiliated.

GG PACK!

We should play Shaw in the "Old Barn" and watch them beat us

3/5/2008 12:29:07 PM

I honestly couldn't believe we didn't foul. We didn't even aggressively try to go for a steal. We sat back and let them come at us!

And then Sidney had the balls to try and explain to us the NBA rule when we all know that it would have made sense to just play defense in the NBA with the timeout advancing the ball past halfcourt.

[Edited on March 5, 2008 at 12:33 PM. Reason : x]

3/5/2008 12:33:24 PM

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" And then Sidney had the balls to try and explain to us the NBA rule when we all know that it would have made sense to just play defense in the NBA with the timeout advancing the ball past halfcourt."

I missed this....what exactly did he say??

3/5/2008 1:30:03 PM

I don't have the exact quote but it was on his radio show.

Something to the effect of he'd rather have ball on his side to diagram a play and in the NBA you have a choice to take it past half court out of a timeout.

3/5/2008 1:32:25 PM

Wow...was he trying to use it as an excuse or something?? Because that just sounds like a dumb comment to make.

"Yeah...too bad we weren't in the NBA...because we would have had a better chance then."

3/5/2008 1:52:16 PM