the Morris quote has been updated:

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""I can take getting beat by a better football team, which they were.'' -- Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris, on the Carolina Panthers. Now, this is a correction from my post of Monday morning. When I saw the quote used from his press conference after the 38-19 loss to Carolina Sunday, the quote read, "I can take getting beat by a better football team. I wish they were.'' Obviously, that makes it seem like Morris is giving the Panthers no credit for the victory. I have since listened to the audio from the press conference, and though it is difficult to hear, Morris does say, "I can take getting beat by a better football team, which they were.''"

12/5/2011 2:09:04 PM

makes more sense, only a Josh McDaniels would come out with something like that

12/5/2011 2:11:41 PM

I've always wanted to see a team go for two after every score

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"Why aren't the Panthers just going for a two-point conversion all of the time? OK, so the Panthers shouldn't go for two when they're down one or in a tie game in the fourth quarter. In situations where one point is obviously valuable, they should be taking the single point. But in situations where the Panthers would automatically be going for one, it seems like they might be able to gain a competitive advantage by going for two. The math is pretty simple. Olindo Mare will convert his extra points about 99.5 percent of the time. We'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that choosing to kick the extra point will be worth one point. If the Panthers can convert on more than 50 percent of their short-yardage runs, it would be profitable for them to go for two more often than not. And the Panthers are a rather remarkable rushing offense in short yardage. They've run the ball 41 times with three yards to go or less this year, and they've converted 29 of them. That's a success rate of 70.7 percent. Perhaps the Panthers won't be quite that successful on two-point conversions, but it's reasonable to infer that they would probably succeed more than 50 percent of the time."

12/5/2011 4:34:07 PM

I'd like to see a comparison on their run success from the 2 yd line vs. 3rd-and-2 situations away from the goal line, say past the 10 yd line


defenses don't have to spread out as much if they're confined to the endzone

12/5/2011 5:05:42 PM

this is all well and good but it's the Panthers we're talking about and even this staff will find a way to think that a draw play to Williams on the goal line will fool somebody.

12/5/2011 5:12:57 PM

Dalton is not winning ROY. That douche hat wrote that article because he knew it would get hits.

12/5/2011 6:26:43 PM

it's not even a unique argument

people have been promoting Dalton for weeks now

12/5/2011 6:28:14 PM

I follow the Panthers and whatever games are on TV and not much else. That was the first I had heard of Dalton for Rookie of the Year.

That article seemed like a hell of a stretch though

12/5/2011 7:21:22 PM

most of the early talk was just based on Dalton's team getting wins and Newton's team only having 2 wins at the time

12/5/2011 8:00:29 PM

Cam's interview with ESPN for their NEXT thing

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:7319392

12/5/2011 8:23:25 PM

ok, apparently they did trade her another game ball for the #13 ball

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"Newton fan gets thrill of a lifetime To 16-year-old Katie Brown Cam Newton really is Superman. So when her hero ran across the end zone after his NFL record-setting 13th rushing touchdown Sunday at Tampa Bay and handed her the game ball, she was speechless and trembling with excitement. "It was the most amazing moment," Brown said in a phone interview on Monday. For the game, she was dressed in a homemade black t-shirt she'd had made up the night before that said "Katie and Cam" on the front and "Mrs. Newton" on the back along with Newton's No. 1. "I thought he was going to do his Superman celebration like he normally does, but then all of sudden he started running over and pointed right at me," said the teenager from New Port Richey, Fla. "I was in shock. I thought, I must be in a dream." A few minutes later, however, she had to give the football up. That ball, it turns out, is destined for the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio. Newton's third touchdown of the game gave him 13 for the season, the most ever by an NFL quarterback breaking Steve Grogan's 35-year-old record. Panthers assistant equipment manager Don Toner, knowing beforehand the importance of Newton's milestone, had the awkward job of asking Brown for the ball. "The funny thing is when Cam scored and started running over there we're all yelling, 'Oh no, don't,'" Toner said with a laugh. "It was like watching it happen in slow motion. It was painful." Painful because he knew he'd have to be the one to retrieve it. At first Toner started toward the corner of the end zone, but then realized he still had the kicker's tee for the upcoming kickoff in his pocket. After he gave that up he grabbed one of the game balls from the ball boys and later snagged four hats out an equipment trunk on the sidelines. Toner said Brown was understanding. "I just asked her real nice, 'Would you mind exchanging that ball — we kind of need it,'" Toner said. "And she was real sweet about it. She didn't hesitate. She was so excited she was trembling. She was just giddy about what had just happened." "It was some quick thinking on Donnie's part," said Panthers equipment manager Jackie Miles. Brown said she didn't mind trading the ball. "I was like, ok, no problem," Brown said. "I honestly believe Cam deserves to have that ball because it was his record and his achievement. He should have it." Miles said the team plans to send Brown a care package in the mail. All in all, it was an incredible day for Brown, who didn't even know she was going to the game until a few hours before kickoff. She doesn't live far from Raymond James Stadium and had asked her father, D.J. Brown — founder and president of EyeDeal Equipment — if going to see Newton play could be her Christmas present. At the time he told his daughter they couldn't afford the tickets, but secretly purchased four for Katie, her 11-year-old brother Noah and their mother Renee. On Sunday, he didn't tell her where they were going until they were on the way to the game. "She was just so thrilled," D.J. Brown said. "I think she had an inkling though, because she had the t-shirt made up the night before the game." Brown can thank the fans around her for getting an opportunity to meet Newton. After a Carolina touchdown in the second quarter, several fans began shouting Newton's name while he stood with DeAngelo Williams around the water cooler rehydrating on the sidelines. Newton noticed the ruckus and finally turned to their section. When he did Katie turned around and showed him the back of her shirt. "I pointed at my t-shirt and he just started smiling and shaking his head laughing," she said. D.J. Brown said her daughter became Newton fan while he was playing at Auburn. They were watching a game together when Katie asked him, "Who's that guy?" He told her. "I told my father right there I'm going to be a fan of whatever team drafts him," Brown said. "So I'm a Panthers fan." Brown said returning to school Monday at River Ridge High was a blast as several of her classmates had seen what happened on television. "It was an amazing day," Brown said. "I was a really great early Christmas present." Only one thing could top it, she said. "I'm wondering if Cam can take me to my prom?" she said."

12/5/2011 8:38:31 PM

18?

12/5/2011 9:20:21 PM

she looks like she could play for the panthers in 5 years

12/5/2011 9:44:46 PM

So the guy is president of his company, and his daughter asks for Bucs tickets, which are cheap as shit because nobody goes, he tells her we can't afford them, and she believes him? Stupid bitch.

12/5/2011 9:51:54 PM

So we have to win out. How mad as hell will I be if we finish say 7-9 or 8-8 and we are 1 or 2 games out of the playoffs....


Mare field goal game
Devon Hester punt return game
Timeout before the half when a field wouldn't have been attempted game
Patrick Peterson punt return game



argggg

12/5/2011 10:27:10 PM

fuck that playoff nonsense, play for picks

12/5/2011 10:30:26 PM

^
^^

fuck all that, this team will be competing in 2-3 years regardless of where they pick

shit, if all goes well, they will compete next year if they find a few key pieces in free agency and/or players like Keiser blow up on defense.

i guarantee the Panthers will do a 180 on defense when Beason comes back, with the addition of some veterans at DT

12/6/2011 2:02:45 AM

they need to learn how to defend the pass too.. you probably forgot since they played the Colts and Tampa Bay's backup QB, but they're pretty terrible, Matt Ryan should remind you.. Houston will still have something to play for, TB will have Freeman back next time, and New Orleans might be resting players by then if they clinch.

I don't think the Panthers win more than 2 more games if they're lucky, so hopefully a good CB/DT early in the first round, and I think this can be a contender in a year or two

12/6/2011 2:25:03 AM

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"i guarantee the Panthers will do a 180 on defense when Beason comes back, with the addition of some veterans at DT "

As great as Beason is, he can't do shit if he's got OL in his face all game.

12/6/2011 10:39:37 AM

hence my caveat

12/6/2011 10:41:57 AM

Stole this from a panthers forum (who stole it from another forum), top 10 statistical corners this year through last week

Obviously the rankings are arguable but Gamble is having a fantastic season. Best player on our D by far with no Beason.

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"1. Chris Gamble: Snaps-614/ 17 of 40 rec allowed 210 yds 2td 3 ints 2. Nnamdi Asomugha: Snaps-656/ 17 of 31 rec allowed 262yds 2 td 3 int 3. Brent Grimes: Snaps-640/ 21 of 50 rec allowed 229 yds 1 td 1 int 4. Asante Samuel: Snaps-674/ 23 of 53 rec allowed 277 yds 2 td 2 int 5. Darrelle Revis: Snaps-731/ 24 of 57 rec allowed 348 yds 1 td 4 int 6. Sheldon Brown: Snaps-706/ 25 of 47 rec allowed 338 1 td 1 int 7. Ike Taylor: Snaps-685/ 25 of 65 rec allowed 276 yds 1 td 1 int 8. Aqib Talib:Snaps-693/ 27 of 50 rec allowed 463 yds 6 td 2 int 9. Antonio Cromartie: Snaps-688/ 28 of 58 rec allowed 383 yds 5 td 3 int 10. Jonathan Joseph:Snaps-652/ 30 0f 51 rec allowed 348 yds 2 td 4 int "

[Edited on December 6, 2011 at 11:41 AM. Reason : ]

12/6/2011 11:40:44 AM

he's been quietly having an exceptional season, especially when you consider how bad the defense is as a unit.

he's only 28, but it feels like he's been around forever. he should have anywhere from 3-5 years left of playing at a high level. or maybe he'll be timeless like Charles Woodson.

12/6/2011 11:48:45 AM

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"Panthers place starting rookie DTs Sione Fua (hamstring) and Terrell McClain on IR."

per Joe person

i assume they'll be signing some DTs this week

12/6/2011 4:08:33 PM

Both of those guys were shit

Time to roll the dice again next year

12/6/2011 4:10:02 PM

Neblett is the truth

12/6/2011 4:16:20 PM

Frank Kearse and Neblett are now the only DTs on the roster if i'm not mistaken

12/6/2011 4:23:38 PM

With the DEs we've got, they might slide one or both to DT on obvious passing downs. I know we've done this with Charles Johnson in the past. Having Hardy, Johsnon, Applewhite, and Keiser rushing the passer would not suck.

Hopefully Neblett and whoever can hold steady on run downs.

12/6/2011 4:53:44 PM

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"he's only 28, but it feels like he's been around forever."

Damn, didn't know that. Assumed he was at least 30.

I've been high on drafting Justin Blackmon, just because I shudder to think about our WR core if Smitty goes down. But the idea of having Claiborne/Kirkpatrick and Gamble as our starting CBs is pretty tempting.

12/6/2011 4:56:25 PM

it should be a great draft for teams that don't want a quarterback. I'm no draftnik but with a QB class as strong as this years, you have to figure teams like Carolina can get great value in the first two rounds. Maybe they'd take a CB in the first and WR in the second

12/6/2011 5:22:42 PM

signed DeMario Pressley to practice squad

[Edited on December 6, 2011 at 6:32 PM. Reason : ]

12/6/2011 6:31:29 PM

did the panthers give up a 3rd rd pick for something? i know it's retardedly early, but i was trying to see rankings for players in the 2012 draft and saw mocks that don't have the panthers with a 3rd rounder. anyways, the early ones say claiborne, but obviously the panthers might move down a few spots and fuck that up

12/6/2011 7:41:31 PM

^Gave it up for Olsen didn't they?

[Edited on December 6, 2011 at 7:47 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2011 7:46:57 PM

yep da Bears got it now

12/6/2011 8:04:22 PM

^^^^ woot!

12/7/2011 9:20:19 AM

I didn't realize Atlanta hasn't played outdoors since Week 4

12/7/2011 3:08:09 PM

I remember when Gamble as a Rookie fucked up that game against the vikings. We were up by 3 with < 2 minutes to go. Gamble had the grand idea to lateral the ball during a kick-return. His teammate unexpecting such play, scrambles to get the ball. Viking recover on the Panther 9 yard line and score the game winning TD.

12/7/2011 3:36:22 PM

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"Gamble had the grand idea to lateral the ball during a kick-return"

if you call a backwards pass across the entire width of the football field a lateral

and I'm pretty sure it was the coaching staff's piss poor decision, not Gamble's

12/7/2011 3:37:37 PM

it was a called play according to john fox after the game. doesnt mean he shouldnt have hung on to it when he realized it wouldnt work, but he didnt decide to do it on his own accord.

[Edited on December 7, 2011 at 3:38 PM. Reason : ^]

12/7/2011 3:37:52 PM

that didn't happen during his rookie season

12/7/2011 3:42:05 PM

That was the infamous Bill Maas game

GOOD LINE BY YOU BILL MAAS

12/7/2011 3:43:48 PM

that guy is a retard

he got pulled and police found weed, coke, and ecstasy in his car, along with a loaded handgun

some time later airport security found a loaded glock 9 in his bag before boarding a plane

12/7/2011 3:55:50 PM

12/7/2011 4:01:41 PM

Bill Maas, tamer of the great outdoors

12/7/2011 4:05:09 PM

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"I remember when Gamble as a Rookie fucked up that game against the vikings"

Gamble was a rookie in '04, the lateral was in '06 IIRC ... he should've known better by then. He's a good CB and a good guy, but nobody said he was smart. I think he scored around a 10 on his Wonderlic


[Edited on December 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM. Reason : ]

12/7/2011 4:07:22 PM

My nigga

12/8/2011 9:32:40 AM

That lion metaphor really came off the rails

12/8/2011 9:37:55 AM

I posted that like 3 days ago

but I guess since slave found it on youtube for an embed it's alright

12/8/2011 10:01:03 AM

Interesting interview. Not sure what to think about his "I'M JUST GON HAVE TO GET OUT THA HOUSE" spiel

12/8/2011 12:00:23 PM

^ Yeah, he could have left it at "I'm trying to change that. Where I have to turn that house into a safari." and been done with it. Not sure how I feel about that comment either. Hmm.....definitely an awkward interview. The last thing we need is for Cam to give up hope on this team and want out.

12/8/2011 1:20:21 PM

Yeah I agree, not sure how much I liked that whole metaphor, especially about how he said he has come to a place where losing is accepted. This ain't the browns or the bills. But I liked everything else he said, he shows damn good passion and leadership

12/8/2011 1:20:50 PM