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MunkeyMuck
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no more slave children

4/24/2009 12:17:20 PM

smoothcrim
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"I'm still playing with aura mastery, it's a cool talent for sure, but how might it dominate?"

All you need to do is go double dps or have a caster on your 3s
ret + disc/lock/frost mage/ele or resto sham for 2's and ret + frost/lock + disc/resto sham in 3's

as soon as someone comes out from behind a pillar, it's gg. you've got a total trump card against an RMP team. aura master is effectively a magic bubble that doesn't share a debuff with BOP and divine shield, which is complete bullshit. It's also for the entire group.

4/24/2009 4:20:52 PM

MunkeyMuck
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I think I'm missing something. It grants immunity to silence and interrupts for 10 seconds on a 2 minute cool down. With RMP you can still sheep, stun, fear, blind. Hell, all you have to do is pop a fear bomb and it's gone. Magic bubble?

4/24/2009 5:19:25 PM

ssclark
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the fact that my guild and another cleared uld in 4 days without any ptr testing makes me very sad :x

my frostwyrm is pretty fucking sweet tho :x

4/26/2009 3:28:33 AM

smoothcrim
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I thought you quit. did you stay with hunter last season?

4/26/2009 9:06:16 AM

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"If seriously think ret is one of the most OP classes in the game you need to either get out of the battlegrounds or get a higher ranking."


Just go to arenajunkies.com and see what people are saying. You're saying a ret paladin can't kill a healer, but that's not the point. The point is that a ret paladin, with a healer, can do massive burst and has virtually unlimited mana. This isn't just something I'm making up based on my own experiences.

4/26/2009 2:45:30 PM

MunkeyMuck
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I'm reading AJ every day, ret healer in 2s is laughable, especially against any team with a priest which is easily 1 out of 3 in my BG.

4/27/2009 12:17:11 AM

HockeyRoman
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Wow Thorim is a pain.

4/27/2009 12:42:25 AM

Novicane
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general verax down. Yogg Saron is fun.

4/27/2009 9:41:24 AM

cain
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^ wow, and we are still working on crazy cat lady (10s only, our 25s have to much re-re dps...)

On a side note, anyone worked on DW-dk this patch, and if so what kind of numbers are you pulling. I am tempted to go back to DW, just because i have better weapon (2 1 handers for Uld 10s, compared to my TS destroyer) compared to the fact we have seen 0 Death Bites, 0 BoH, 0 Arm, and 1 Jawbone since jan.

4/27/2009 1:09:16 PM

smoothcrim
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any spec where you can stay away from needing +hit is better imo. the fact that most naxx and uld gear is hit starved (even leather) only makes the decision simpler

4/27/2009 2:39:29 PM

DamnStraight
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we had a slight problem with vezax trash haha, aggroing other packs was funny but we got through it and killed the general

hopefully this week razorscale will drop that weapon for me

4/28/2009 6:44:37 AM

Nashattack
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We finally got IC down. So we've killed FL, XT, Razorscale, Ignis, IC and Kologarn. Now, onto Ari..

Gonna try to full clear on 10 man this week.

I'm back at tanking since they broke my fury dps and I hate arms.

4/28/2009 12:59:15 PM

grimx
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i didn't see anyone had mentioned this:

Mimiron built the Flame Leviathan as part of the V0-L7R-0N weapons platform

goooo voltron!

4/28/2009 1:19:21 PM

cain
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so tired of hearing about broken fury...

On a side note, it did butt hurt our raid dps since our last fury warrior was constant top 5 dps in 25s, now hes middle of the pack again.


BTW anyone else in a guild that is grossly weighted towards ranged dps.

We have 1 unholy dk, 1 fury warrior, 1 kitty, 1 enc shaman, and 1 ret that show up.

Meanwhile, we have 4 chickens, 3 locks, 4 spriest, 3 mages, 3 hunters.


And lastly, do you any of you also have the fail DPS that will only do harder content (maly, 3d sarth, uld) because he some how has all his naxx loot, but is to awful to even be carried though. You want to kick him, but he's your awesome main tanks window licking cousin

4/28/2009 2:08:37 PM

Novicane
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got Yogg into phase 3 last night, down to 25%. The adds he spawns just kills the raid.

4/28/2009 5:01:52 PM

smoothcrim
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in my guild we have 3 hunters, 2 mages, 1 chicken, 2 locks, 2 spriests, and an elemental shaman on range
I'm the only rogue, we have 2 dks, 1 fury, 1 arms, 1 feral, and 1 enhancement. except for locks and spriests, our ranged is pretty dookie.

4/28/2009 5:52:24 PM

HockeyRoman
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Mimiron to phase 4. That's a fun fight aside from rocket strike being able to target melee. . . .

4/28/2009 7:31:52 PM

Gumbified
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^^^^

Funny that you mention it b/c our raid is the exact opposite. 5 Casters total that show up. Me a shadow priest, mage, chicken, ele shammy, and a lock. The rest is like enh shammy, 2 wars, 4 rogues, and a ret or 2 depending. I'm the only caster besides the ele shammy that can even come close to challenging the melee on meters. usually 3-4 for me and the ele. But the way I look at is its less of a fight over loot.

4/30/2009 12:48:18 AM

Jax883
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We get about 5 casters on average as well, and I concur on the lack of competition for loot. I actually don't have to worry about my DKP total anymore.

On a side note, It's been pretty funny watching the green geared questers show up in bgs with their orphans. I chuckle every time I think about the face rolling that they must be doing in an attempt to not get slaughtered.

5/2/2009 11:08:22 AM

Nashattack
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"BTW anyone else in a guild that is grossly weighted towards ranged dps.

We have 1 unholy dk, 1 fury warrior, 1 kitty, 1 enc shaman, and 1 ret that show up.

Meanwhile, we have 4 chickens, 3 locks, 4 spriest, 3 mages, 3 hunters."


ha! I wish!

Our fail guild normally has 2 mages, 2 hunters, 1 spriest,1 ele shaman and MAYBE a warlock. No boomkins for us. We have 3 raiding DPS warriors that normally always show up. 1 enh shaman, 1 kitty dps, 2 ret pallies, 2 rogues and a DK round out our normal lot. So 2 tanks (I'm a 3rd when needed) and 7 healers.

I think our healers are just completely fail tho. There's a really bad guild on our server that just downed Freya on 25 man and we finally got Ignis down so we're up to FL, Ignis, XT, Razor, IC and Kologarn down. We wiped on Auri for an hour and a half last night until I read you can interrupt that one spell so i sat on top of the tank from the start and zerker rage + interrupt the whole fight.... I still managed 3.5k dps in our ATTEMPTS. Our healers just fail and we wiped at 24% twice, so I called the raid.



EDIT: wtb new guild that can raid properly. I'll xfer to you bringing my Fury/Prot warrior and my Resto/Feral druid. PST I'm soooo serious. I'm tired of below average raiding.

[Edited on May 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM. Reason : .]

5/4/2009 10:44:39 AM

grimx
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^ yeah, was in a raid recently and am not very well geared (single digit rolls ftl) and top dps.

the other mage in full 7.5 was frostfire spec and doing average 1300dps lower than me on every boss. =/

5/4/2009 11:11:32 AM

cain
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^^ i fell you on fail healers. I'm almost done getting my priest to 80 (up to 77 now) just to heal our 10 mans because we have 1 pally, 1 druid, and 1 shaman that are actually worth the gear they wear on healing. To give you an idea, our attempts are Razor on 25s this weekend, the effective healing for the pally and the druid (shammy wife had a kid or some bs), were 50-60% of the total, almost dead even with each other, and we had 7 freaking healers there. I mean when you keep wiping because your tanks are dieing and you check healing chats are it goes 25%, 24%, 16, 11, and the rest in single digits, you are just gonna be boned.

And some combination of pally/sham/druid have been there for every one of our 10 man progression kills. (we just DPS zerg razor, decon, ignis now with the A group, B group still cant kill FL)

5/5/2009 10:34:50 AM

DamnStraight
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lol, how can you NOT kill FL even with a B group?

5/5/2009 11:47:39 AM

HockeyRoman
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Vezax is fun. But then again I am kitty dps so all I do is smash buttons and watch Omen.

5/5/2009 1:12:56 PM

cain
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^^ i dont know. But going by how the 25 man i went to over the weekend went i would assume its B groups inability to roll the dot. We had 2 dots that say at 10 stacks for most of the fight, and then some times got another one up to 2 or 3, but never had more then 3 up at a time. It was probably best for the guild that i was having to keep my ears open for the wife and didn't have vent going.

No towers up and we finished with 3 bikes and 2 SEs alive... just sad.

5/5/2009 1:36:02 PM

disco_stu
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Haven't even been to Ulduar yet. Our guild raids 10 mans mostly and then sometimes teams up with other guilds for 25 mans. I also PUG 25 mans like VoA, Naxx, and OS. Not really any Ulduar PUGs yet.

Unfortunately in our 10 mans there are usually 2 other warlocks on DPS and sometimes a mage and a priest. A lot of rollers for cloth. We're flush with ranged dps.

5/5/2009 1:36:44 PM

cain
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i love A groups 10s

DPS is fury, lock, lock, chicken, spriest (double holy for 3 healer fights), and my DK. I only have to worry about sharing melee dps gear with 1 other guy

5/5/2009 1:40:14 PM

smoothcrim
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"lol, how can you NOT kill FL even with a B group?"

This was me last weekend, until we realized we were doing it in hardmode. We got to like 4% on our best attempt with 3 towers up, killed 1 more tower and it was ezmode.

5/5/2009 3:19:15 PM

MunkeyMuck
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Damnit, I'm now the main holy paladin in the guild I'm in and I wanted to go ret
I need to start sucking or something. We're running 2 10s with the first 7 bosses down in both main groups. Just getting the hang of it for now. lol at this mail helm I got the other night (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45687) being better than the previous BIS helm that I could never get to drop from Thaddius.

5/5/2009 5:18:25 PM

tartsquid
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"previous BIS helm that I could never get to drop from Thaddius."


God yes, I never saw that thing drop and I raided since December.

I quit raiding the week after our first Ulduar. It just started feeling like a chore instead of something enjoyable. Our other holy paladin and class leader quit the week after that for his new job, but the guild leader managed to step up and find some good healers and they're still rolling through.

In the meantime, I'm looking for somewhere to move my disc priest, even considering a server hop. All of my friends play alliance though.

5/6/2009 8:48:19 AM

smoothcrim
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if you don't wanna raid and you do arenas please join my 2v2. there's ~1 good disc priest on my server and he's already taken for 2's and I'm trying a different comp this season after 4 seasons of RMP. in other news, rogue/ret/resto sham is ridiculous. it's generally 3v1 by the time bloodlust wears off and someone usually dies in the first 15 sec.

5/6/2009 9:38:03 AM

Ken
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Anyone doing 3-4 Tower Levi? Our 5th Demolisher rules at keeping the dot on forever, and their gunner shoots Pyrite down most of the time, but the passenger shooters are hit-or-miss in finding enough fuel. Do we need the Siege Engines to save energy for this? Can't really keep our passengers on board for long.

5/6/2009 4:56:27 PM

kdawg(c)
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sweet! just hit lvl 80 in my main.

now what?

5/11/2009 5:22:27 PM

ThePeter
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"I quit raiding the week after our first Ulduar. It just started feeling like a chore instead of something enjoyable. "


That's basically why I quit back in BC. Logging on and doing your dailies was like a regular job, plus it was like pulling teeth trying to get the raid together and out, not to mention eventually failing at whatever we were trying to kill.

Have you tried shadow tartsquid? Its fun (or was)

5/11/2009 5:53:27 PM

davidkunttu
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^^ run heroics, get epics, sneak into raid pugs.

5/12/2009 9:10:43 AM

MunkeyMuck
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"In the meantime, I'm looking for somewhere to move my disc priest, even considering a server hop. All of my friends play alliance though. "


A couple friends in Raleigh just started up a guild on Zuluhed and I could use a disc priest for 2s

5/12/2009 9:24:20 AM

grimx
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^^^^ just join 25 man groups, if you're in blues they'll still take you cause most dont bother with gear checks. 10mans are a little harder to sneak in since you're under more scrutiny

5/12/2009 2:31:48 PM

DamnStraight
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its sad that im already to the "ug have to clear ulduar" phase already.

that was probably brought on by wiping a couple of days on yogg bc people dont seem capable of avoiding clouds or like...facing away from yogg in p3

5/13/2009 6:48:41 AM

smoothcrim
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so, I'd like to poll the pros out there
for mimiron:
keep a low healer count (5-6) to blow him up quickly
stack healers (8-9) to keep people alive
we killed him last clear, but it was sloppy

5/13/2009 3:45:21 PM

Azaka
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Stacking healers on easy modes is a very bad idea, especially on fights like Mimiron with multiple instagib abilities. Since there is no amount of healing that will save someone from a pewpew laser barrage, rocket strike or shock blast, the less those abilities happen the better. Plus if you ever want to do any kind of hard mode you will be stacking as many dps as possible and using just as many healers is required to keep everyone alive and no more. If you can only bring 5 healers to Mim hard mode but you bring 8 to easy that transition is going to be very difficult.

5/13/2009 5:25:03 PM

smoothcrim
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got him easily (2 attempts) through HORRIBLE lag tonight (people dead to laser barrage before DBM could even report the emote) with the 7-8 druids we normally have in a raid, maybe we can just have them all go dps spec next week

5/14/2009 2:02:02 AM

GraniteBalls
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My guild has cleared up to hodir in 25 man.

We've got

Thorim, Mim, General, Yogg


left.


I think blizzard said it pretty well when they said "If naxx is raiding 101, than think of ulduar as raiding 201"

a sophmore level, if you will.

5/14/2009 9:04:58 AM

grimx
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maybe more on par with raiding 202, the added lag makes it a little harder than a 201 course

5/14/2009 9:32:40 AM

Armabond1
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I quit for good about a month ago.

When I found out I was top 2000 in the world in achivement points, I decided I had enough.

5/15/2009 4:35:25 PM

disco_stu
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Our guild did Sarth +1 10 man last night.

Is that EZ mode compared to the first few Ulduar bosses 10 man?

5/15/2009 4:50:07 PM

Ken
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If any of you raiding folks need a guild

http://www.limboftw.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=2

Gorefiend - Horde. M-Thurs raiding schedule. We mostly need healers that aren't Shaman - who got the short straw this patch and we have like 6 of them. We can use Locks too, and a Ret paladin who can faceroll.

Been poking around on hard modes, 2 towers/runemaster/1 tree in 25. 10 man hard modes are a lot more doable, but we usually only get one hard group and one medium / casual group. Tons of server firsts TBC and lost Yogg by a day. Drop an app if you need a guild, and can deal with an angry raid leader and do hard modes really well!

5/18/2009 11:43:42 AM

Nashattack
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I will EASILY transfer to your server... looked at your forums and you seem to have a lot of tree druids already app'd up.

If I cleaned up my enchants, think I'd stand a chance? My + healing in tree is like 1983.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Broncow

Keep in mind, this is my alt, but I don't raid anymore with my current guild so I'd be able to make 100% of your raids and make this my main.

[Edited on May 18, 2009 at 12:09 PM. Reason : .]

5/18/2009 12:09:22 PM

Ken
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At this point I want 30 trees, but I'd bug our Druid CL Shmm. May want to make an alt and talk to him, or at the very least we have Saturday semi-pug Naxxes if your server sucks. If you really know how Druids work and can avoid eating Void Zones you should be good. Healing wise our Druids destroy every other healer except a lucky Holy Priest. (One with shitty gear pretty much does that as well)

And if not, there's 2-3 other Horde guilds on our server that are doing well that are recruiting, i think. We had an alliance guild that was great but imploded

[Edited on May 18, 2009 at 2:26 PM. Reason : gsdfgs]

5/18/2009 2:09:27 PM

Grandmaster
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I want that feeling back that I used to get while leveling my first character, the first piece of tier 1 loot or Brutality Blade, and then that sense of accomplishment in BWL as you equip the guild's first CTS.

sigh Is that how a heroin addict feels when they think back to the first time they tied off?

5/18/2009 2:24:12 PM

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