41 story building coming to hillsborough

9/26/2013 8:36:52 PM

?? I won't necessarily take you seriously unless you have more details.

I can count four spots downtown on Hillsborough that have been proposed for large developments in the past decade and have zoning that would allow something that big.

301 Hillsborough (Southwest corner of Hillsborough/Dawson, across from the Clarion). 25 story hotel/condo project proposed by Reynolds Father/son duo, the developers of Quorum Center. It fell through in 2009 and the city now owns the property.

400 Hillsborough (Northwest corner of Hillsborough/Harrington). This was proposed as two hotels and possibly apartments/condos by Winston Hospitality but fell through a few years ago. Now owned by what seems to be a hotel developer based in Oak Brook, Illinois.

501 Hillsborough (Southwest corner of Hillsborough/West). Proposed as an 8-10 story mixed use building by HBS/York. Nearly the entire block is still owned by HBS.

601 Hillsborough (Southwest corner of Hillsborough/Glenwood). Proposed in 2007 by Sandman, developer of the Paramount condos, as a 20-30 story condo tower. Property ownership not entirely clear.

10/1/2013 10:39:48 AM

(we are on page 41)

10/1/2013 10:57:54 AM

Ah, I understand. Because a 41 page thread on TWW is just like a 41 story building on Hillsborough. They both have the number 41! LOLZ!

10/1/2013 4:58:31 PM

stfu n00b.

10/1/2013 5:35:03 PM

What's noob mean? I'm not black if that's what you mean.

10/1/2013 7:17:25 PM

lol epic.

funniest thing I read all day

10/1/2013 8:18:55 PM

let's take it down a notch, orulz

10/1/2013 10:28:22 PM

Just noticed the chipotle and also bookstore is in harrelson wtf are you guys doing with the place?

10/2/2013 12:00:01 AM

they are building the awesome new student center that we voted for

10/2/2013 11:17:31 AM

Old bookstore is now a pile of dirt/hole in the ground.

But the student center is going to be supremely badass.

10/2/2013 2:13:12 PM

^when does phase 1 open? There are some pictures on facebook that look close to substantial completion, but the blog and updates on the project website are stale since January '13.

10/2/2013 6:07:43 PM

I honestly have no idea.

10/2/2013 10:27:30 PM

they were out laying down grass today when I walked by. Should be the next month or so, I would imagine.

10/2/2013 11:56:02 PM

it is supposed to open this fall. walked by this week, food court looks pretty awesome

10/3/2013 11:44:51 AM

The new section should open soon. At which point they will close the old section and renovation that.

10/3/2013 1:11:21 PM

Quote :

" The opening of the new Talley Student Center’s dining area has been a moving target since the start of the summer. As recently as May 30, the building’s dining venues were supposed to be open early this semester, according to Kevin MacNaughton, associate vice chancellor of facilities at N.C. State. After an extremely rainy summer, however, it appeared it would not open until early in 2014. Now, those involved with the project say the actual opening date will likely fall somewhere in between those two targets."

http://www.technicianonline.com/news/article_bac224d8-1518-11e3-9a33-0019bb30f31a.html

10/4/2013 10:18:46 AM

Schoolkids to move into old Blockbuster at Mission Valley, expands space for performances, probably gonna serve beer too (but it's not gonna be an all-out "bar")

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/10/15/3283998/schoolkids-records-to-leave-hillsborough.html

http://www.technicianonline.com/features/article_07dc600a-3619-11e3-b4b0-0019bb30f31a.html

also: there's also something very delicious to me about a mom and pop record store outlasting a video-rental conglomerate

10/16/2013 12:24:27 PM

I'm happy for them. however, I'm shocked that they do enough business to afford rent

10/16/2013 12:27:26 PM

records? aren't those big versions of those CD things our parents used to listen to? [/millennial]

10/16/2013 12:36:59 PM

http://www.indyweek.com/scan/archives/2013/10/16/schoolkids-records-wants-to-stay-on-hillsborough-street-but-in-january-they-wont

one more

10/16/2013 12:43:37 PM

Waffle House at MV. I would have loved that back when I was a Bada barfly

10/16/2013 12:52:26 PM

I bet the juice/smoothie store next door to where they'll be is praising the lord.

More room for performance space is cool with me.

10/17/2013 11:31:10 AM

The old Hillsborough Street Textbook store has been vacant for over a year. Is the rent to much or something?

10/17/2013 11:11:48 PM

Someone open a music venue there.

10/17/2013 11:21:53 PM

Someone put the porno theater back.

Ironically, of course.

10/17/2013 11:27:20 PM

The former HST/former Theater would be perfect for a small music venue--it's even got the marquee. A bookstore was never an ideal use of that space anyway. Unless you want The Brewery 2.0, though, it'd have to have another draw as well, maybe a bar that people would want to go to even if there doesn't happen to be live music that night.

10/18/2013 10:06:52 AM

maybe a McDonald's?

10/18/2013 5:16:07 PM

#1 There are already enough venues of that size in the area to handle the amount of bands coming through that can draw to a room like that.

#2 No parking in the area is a bummer when you're trying to get 150 people in at once five nights a week.

10/19/2013 8:56:05 PM

In the last year or so Pantana Bobs has gotten to be crazy packed on Thursday nights for their mug nights. It's shutting down on Nov 1 though. Outside of the Alley, there's really no other current venue on Hillsborough that's really well suited enough to take over being the Thursday night spot for students. It'd be as good a time as any for someone to open a bar in the old HST spot to try and takeover that Thursday night spot.

10/20/2013 8:48:33 AM

Pantana Bobs needs to burn down... with all of the patrons inside

10/20/2013 3:57:56 PM

I've always liked going there when the weather is good because of their deck, but the actual inside of the bar was the grossest place I'd ever gone to drink. Absolute shit hole.

Their $6 cover and then drink free with a PB's mug until the kegs run out has gone pretty well for them though. I'm in my last semester at State, and never heard of anyone going there my first 3 years of college (2009-2011), but ever since last fall that's been where seemingly ever goes on Thursday nights. With them closing though somewhere has the opportunity to take over Thursday nights around campus - EV/PR aren't really the type of places to do that and The Keg is way too small.

10/20/2013 7:26:12 PM

PB's is a shithole but a lot of good times have been had there.

10/20/2013 8:19:29 PM

Yeah I liked PBs for the deck. It wasn't a place to go in August/Sept, but it was all right when the fall rolled around. Maybe something else will open up in its place. The thing about a place like PBs is that even though it was run down and nasty, it still had some affordable drinks/drink nights. All this high end decor leads to high end prices for drinks and that gets old quick.

10/21/2013 4:36:56 PM

Whoever owns the building that Hot Box pizza was in is putting a roof deck on it this winter and putting it up for lease.

10/21/2013 4:55:32 PM

speaking of parking, is there a lot for that new apt building/coffee shop on hills/pogue?

10/23/2013 1:57:59 PM

^I don't think so.

PB's has a deck? Well fuck. I've never stepped foot in there.

Putting a deck on the old Sylvia's/Hotbox building seems kind of ridiculous. Whoever owned that spot doesn't have a great history of choices. However... people do love roof decks. I just have a hard time picturing it on that structure. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT ANOTHER PIZZA PLACE.


The news about Nice Price is pretty awesome. Making space potentially for bands and other events is always a cool feature. If VB and Friend start leaning towards more events, I know there are reading series and book-related activities that could happen there.

10/23/2013 2:16:51 PM

regarding the roof on hot box: they are about to build an Aloft hotel across from the belltower a couple blocks away, i think a deck on the roof is a great idea.

10/23/2013 2:39:50 PM

^Hmmm didn't think about that. Guess it's important to remember that development will change a lot for that area, and some of those neighboring businesses could do a lot to cater to it. Now that I think about it, morphing that building into something with a roof bar could definitely attract a business that better compliments the hotel. Could really go together.

STILL have a hard time imagining a roof deck visually in its current state, but that's me.

10/23/2013 2:51:43 PM

and there are 3 parking lots around that location (pay lot, North after hours, and across the street on campus after hours), its got a lot of potential

[Edited on October 23, 2013 at 3:09 PM. Reason : it just has to be more exciting than mediocre pizza]

10/23/2013 3:08:28 PM

While the hotel won't have a roof deck, plans do include a bar or restaurant with a balcony a story above street level.

10/23/2013 4:48:12 PM

North Hall will probably eventually have a parking deck.

10/24/2013 2:28:14 PM

^ indeedily:

10/26/2013 3:27:49 PM

Definitely need a parking deck there, but that road behind North is going to get torn up no doubt, going to be a tight fit otherwise.

10/26/2013 9:16:05 PM

Things done changed

10/27/2013 8:10:35 PM

The old Hot Box building is adding the roof for whoever rents it next, and the new hotel across from the Belltower is supposed to have a bar/restaurant inside as well. There's a coffee place going in at the bottom of the new grad student apartments on Hillsborough and there's supposed to be some street level retailers in the new student housing place going up in the area where PB's/Time Out/etc. are/were.

10/29/2013 11:04:03 PM

any plans to bury the power lines in front of Kane's new apartments? it sure did make the area around Mitch's look a lot better

11/5/2013 10:26:46 AM

they are asking for permission to shut down that section of Hillsborough St over break for utility work, but the timeline didn't seem like enough to bury all of the transmission lines. I think it will be done when Raleigh continues the Hillsborough St renovation in that direction

11/5/2013 10:34:33 AM

yeah, I see that Kane will do sewer work over Christmas break

11/5/2013 10:51:38 AM

http://www.wral.com/raleigh-approves-plan-for-apartments-retail-near-ncsu/13082874/

11/7/2013 10:14:46 AM