So now UNC is, what, 38 over their limit

1/19/2009 5:16:33 PM

Bond and another kid. That's 29 for this class for them.

1/19/2009 5:21:58 PM

Updates
Luke Kuechly commits to BC
Asa Watson Commits!
Travis Bond commits to UNC

2009 Football Scholarship Offers:
Bold = Commit

QB
*** Everett Proctor (Jack Britt) Fayetteville, NC 6-2/200

RB
*** James Washington (Boone HS) Orlando, FL 6-0/180/4.40 Enrolled Spring Semester
*** Morgan Alexander (Cartersville HS) Cartersville, GA 5-10.5/160/4.47
*** Greg Pratt (Naples HS) Naples, FL 5-9/165/4.40
*** Rolandan Finch (St. Xavier HS) Louisville, KY 5-10/200/4.50
*** Travis Small (Cheraw HS) Cheraw, SC 5-10.5/184/4.50
** William Pratcher (Cedar Grove HS) Ellenwood, GA 5-10/180

FB
No offers

WR
*** Quintin Payton (T L Hanna HS) Anderson, SC 6-4/190
*** Bryan Underwood (Cleveland Heights HS) University Hts, OH 5-8.5/162/4.62
**** Justin Brown (Concord HS) Wilmington, DE 6-3.5/210/4.48
**** Larry Raper (Shelby HS) Shelby, NC 5-10/153/4.24
*** Kinsman Thomas (Marlboro County HS) Bennettsville, SC 6-3/210/4.59
*** Carvin Powell (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-2.5/198/4.50

TE
**** Asa Watson (Rock Hill HS) Rock Hill, SC 6-4/200
** Anthony Talbert (Winton Woods HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-4/225

OT
*** Duran Christophe (Woodstock HS) Woodstock, GA 6-5.5/257/5.59
***** Marcus Hall (Glenville HS) Cleveland, OH 6-5/293/5.35
*** Andrew Tiller (Nassau) Garden City, NY 6-6/320/5.00
**** Travis Bond (Bertie HS) Windsor, NC 6-6/330 UNC

OG
**** Denzelle Good (Gaffney Senior HS) Gaffney, SC 6-4/295
**** Quinton Washington (Timberland HS) Saint Stephen, SC 6-4/322
* Gus Handler (Barrington HS) Barrington, IL 6-3/265 Colorado

C
*** Camden Wentz (Lassiter HS) Marietta, GA 6-3.5/280/5.35

DT
*** Brian Slay (Stone Bridge HS) Ashburn, VA 6-3/275
*** Tyson Chandler (North Plainfield HS) North Plainfield, NJ 6-6/315
*** Nathan Mageo (New Mexico Military) Roswell, NM 6-4/280/4.96 Enrolled Spring Semester
*** Deion Roberson (Tucker HS) Tucker, GA 6-2/275
*** Raynard Randolph (Gwynn Park HS) Brandywine, MD 6-3/295
*** Akeem Spence (Ft. Walton Beach HS) Fort Walton Beach, FL 6-1/290
*** Frankie Davis (East Ridge HS) Clermont, FL 6-3/270 UCF
* Conor O'Neal (Newsome HS) Lithia, FL 6-3/300 Wisconsin

DE
*** Ricky Dowdy (High Point Central HS) High Point, NC 6-3/225
*** Sylvester Crawford (Victory Christian Center Sch.) Charlotte, NC 6-5/215
** Darryl Cato-Bishop (Lawrence Academy) Groton, MA 6-4/230
** A.J. Ferguson (South Brunswick HS) Southport, NC 6-3/250/4.80
*** Clinton Simpkins (Chancellor HS) Fredericksburg, VA 6-3/215/4.60
** Brian Jordan (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-4/207
** Josh Jackson (Gainesville HS) Gainesville, GA 6-1/242/5.00
**** Jason Ankrah (Quince Orchard HS) Gaithersburg, MD 6-4/240/4.79 Nebraska
*** Izaan Cross (Flowery Branch HS) Flowery Branch, GA 6-4/250 Georgia Tech
*** Julius Forte (Boca Ciega HS) Gulfport, FL 6-2/221/4.66 USF
** Luke Sager (Niceville Senior HS) Niceville, FL 6-4/240 South Florida

MLB
*** Ryan Cheek (Lancaster HS) Lancaster, OH 6-0.5/232/4.51

SLB
*** Luke Kuechly (St. Xavier HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-3/205 BC

WLB
*** Robert Nelson (Stone Mountain HS) Stone Mountain, GA 6-0/205

S
*** Hans Rice (Eufaula HS) Eufaula, AL 6-3/195/4.5
*** Brandan Bishop (Boca Raton HS) Boca Raton, FL 6-1/197/4.66 thanks bro
** Donald Coleman (The Hun School) Princeton, NJ 6-0/207/4.46 Enrolled Spring Semester
** Boogie McCray (Lake Taylor HS) Norfolk, VA 6-2/210

CB
**** Jarvis Byrd (Pahokee HS) Pahokee, FL 5-10/170/4.65
*** Dean Haynes (Northwest Whitfield County HS) Tunnel Hill, GA 6-0/200
** Rashard Smith (Dublin HS) Dublin, GA 5-10/175
*** Dale Peterman (Ursuline HS) Youngstown, OH 5-11/176/4.67
** Keith Reaser (Miami Killian HS) Miami, FL 5-10/-/4.44

K,P
** Chris Ward (Starrs Mill HS) Fayetteville, GA 6-1/170


------------------------------------------STATISTICS------------------------------------------


Scholarships Count
16 Available for 2009
-27 2009 Commits
-2 Rejoining Team (Sam Jones and John Ware if he requalifies)
+3 Class of 2008 who didn't qualify (Palmer, Everett, Mangram)
+6 Transfer or Left Team (Jaradat, Locust, Golder, Burke, T. Barnes, Linney)
-------------------------------------
-4 Scholarships Remaining

Recruiting Breakdown
OFFENSE
QB - 1
Backfield - 2
Receivers - 4
Linemen - 3
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Total Offense - 10

DEFENSE
Linemen - 9
Linebackers - 1
Secondary - 6
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Total Defense - 16

SPECIAL TEAMS
Kickers - 1

Geographical Diversity
Alabama - 1
Florida - 3
Georgia - 7
Maryland - 1
Massachusetts - 1
New Jersey - 2
New Mexico - 1
North Carolina - 4
South Carolina - 3
Ohio - 3
Virginia - 1

Star Count (highest of the two sites)
5* - 0
4* - 3
3* - 18
2* - 6
1* - 0
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Average Stars - 2.89

1/19/2009 5:41:00 PM

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"So now UNC is, what, 38 over their limit"

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1/19/2009 5:58:28 PM

hey you, what are you doing in here?

1/19/2009 5:59:09 PM

^^ Don't worry they will keep throwing out players that didn't pan out for them. It will hurt them before too long and by then Butcher will be gone so he doesn't care.

1/19/2009 6:07:24 PM

that or people won't hold to their commitments, knowing that unc doesn't intend to honor theirs either.

1/19/2009 6:13:46 PM

cam sexton frees up one

1/19/2009 6:22:48 PM

Just look at that geographical diversity. I mean I love it when we keep the best players in-state from going elsewhere, but I also like mining the country for the best available players, especially in states where high school is really big like Georgia, Florida, Ohio, and South Carolina. You all will know that we've really arrived when we can go into Texas and California and get some good prospects.

1/19/2009 6:37:30 PM

I remember us being short on depth at the Linebacker position. Any concerns about having only one LB recruit?

1/19/2009 6:42:18 PM

Rickey Dowdy can potentially be an OLB. Hans Rice will supposedly start out at safety but grow into a WLB. Also we are pursuing Quandon Christian who had originally verballed to Clemson, but recently took an OV to State this past weekend.

1/19/2009 6:52:07 PM

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"^^ Don't worry they will keep throwing out players that didn't pan out for them. It will hurt them before too long and by then Butcher will be gone so he doesn't care."

None of these guys were recruited by Butch. It's not uncommon to see attrition from 4th year juniors and seniors who haven't cracked the 2 deep with a new coach. Also, Butch isn't going anywhere.

1/19/2009 7:53:08 PM

We had 3 LB's redshirt from last season as well.

1/19/2009 8:24:20 PM

^^ so wait let me understand how it works. davis gets to take credit for putting bunting's recruits into the NFL (taylor and barth last year, nicks this year, tate if he can rehab and get on a roster) but when guys don't pan out, it's b/c they were the previous staff's recruits? so he doesn't have to honor any commitment to them? that's fucking marvelous

hell davis just let the best qb on his roster leave. what a fucking dolt.

1/19/2009 8:34:25 PM

^ It might not be fair but that's the reality of the situation. There is something to be said for player development though. I guarantee you won't see as much attrition with his own recruits.

Yates is the best QB at UNC. He was the most efficient passer in the ACC this season. If he can stay healthy in 2009, expect him to be one of the best in the league.

1/19/2009 8:59:43 PM

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"He was the most efficient passer in the ACC this season."

OH FUCK ME

1/19/2009 9:07:06 PM

^LOL he is going to be average at best without nicks and tate.

1/19/2009 9:07:51 PM

sorry fucker only played half the season

1/19/2009 9:08:56 PM

^^^ I guess QB rating only matters when talking about Wilson huh?

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"Steven Reactor Operator 4187 Posts user info edit post wilson #47 11/10/2008 6:15:27 PM wolfpack2105 All American 4250 Posts user info edit post ^makes him the #1 rated QB in the ACC 11/10/2008 6:36:01 PM"

I realize that passer rating isn't the end all be all but it's a pretty good indicator of a QBs ability. There's no doubt in my mind that Yates is superior to Sexton.


And yeah, I agree the loss of Nicks will be tough to overcome in the passing game. Tate won't be as difficult since we played over 50% of the season without him anyway. We have a load of talented receivers but they are young and inexperienced.

1/19/2009 9:29:00 PM

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"Tate won't be as difficult since we played over 50% of the season without him anyway"

with Tate: 4-1

without Tate: 4-4

1/19/2009 9:36:35 PM

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"There's no doubt in my mind that Yates is superior to Sexton."

There's no doubt in my mind that Wilson is superior to Yates!

1/19/2009 9:52:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l61dvfxMvUc

1/19/2009 10:13:30 PM

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"Scholarships Count 16 Available for 2009 -27 2009 Commits -2 Rejoining Team (Sam Jones and John Ware if he requalifies) +3 Class of 2008 who didn't qualify (Palmer, Everett, Mangram) +6 Transfer or Left Team (Jaradat, Locust, Golder, Burke, T. Barnes, Linney) ------------------------------------- -4 Scholarships Remaining"

You should update this. Of the 27 commits, 3 have already enroled so they count towards last years class. And does the number 16 include graduating seniors? You may have your numbers right (b/c with 3 NQ's and 3 from this year enrolling early its a wash) but I'd check that.

We were so far below 85 last year i would be highly surprised if we are over 85 even with a 27 man class.

[Edited on January 19, 2009 at 10:26 PM. Reason : ]

1/19/2009 10:21:51 PM

We actually had four enroll already. Sam Jones, James Washington, Nathan Mageo and Donald Coleman.

1/19/2009 10:28:19 PM

Now that I look at it, we're technically at 90 right now, but thats including walkons who were previously awarded scholarships. IDK o'brien's policy on that.

1/19/2009 10:33:08 PM

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"Of the 27 commits, 3 have already enrolled so they count towards last years class"

The scholarship count I'm doing is solely based on the total amount of scholarships available. If you check the list, I've noted the guys that have are here spring semester. The number 16 that I used was based on toddl's list at the beginning of the recruiting year. I've counted down from that, right or wrong. I'm just doing this for fun but if you notice any glaring errors, let me know.

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"And does the number 16 include graduating seniors?"

Yes, It does.

[Edited on January 19, 2009 at 10:35 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2009 10:34:08 PM

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"Yates is the best QB at UNC. He was the most efficient passer in the ACC this season."

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2008-2009/confldrs.html#conf.wi2

1/19/2009 10:48:41 PM

^^I think your numbers are correct...I was just surprised by them. You may actually be missing one to the other side based on packpride's count. I think you have us at 89, they have us at 90. I don't know where the difference is coming though.

1/19/2009 10:50:55 PM

^^ haha Yates didn't even break into the Top 9 in pass efficiency.

1/19/2009 10:58:04 PM

>.<

semi- pwnt



[Edited on January 19, 2009 at 11:15 PM. Reason : ]

1/19/2009 11:01:15 PM

did yates play 75% of the games this year? I think that might be a factor because he was injured, but I doubt he was more efficient that mr. wilson.

Edit: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=183674

Whoops, I guess he was.

[Edited on January 19, 2009 at 11:13 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2009 11:12:20 PM

Yeah but I doubt he would have been able to keep up that high of a number had he played the required amount. And he wasn't more efficient than Mr. Wilson on the day that mattered most.

1/19/2009 11:16:11 PM

^look at who he played, and you can work on coloring me impressed but you won't be able to

1/19/2009 11:18:28 PM

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"You may actually be missing one to the other side based on packpride's count. I think you have us at 89, they have us at 90. I don't know where the difference is coming though."

Possibly Michael Lemon, but I don't know what the deal is with the kid is other than the one article where he applied to State and was accepted.

1/19/2009 11:18:40 PM

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"Whoops, I guess he was."

I'm pretty sure if you factor out any drops by Owen Spencer, Wilson would be #1 regardless of games.

[Edited on January 19, 2009 at 11:20 PM. Reason : ]

1/19/2009 11:19:01 PM

Just for reference, Cam Sexton would have been the 2nd best in pass efficiency. I don't know how these numbers really determine how good a QB really is.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=170980

1/19/2009 11:22:06 PM

See how many more picks they each had than Wilson? Give Wilson Hakeem Nicks and he throws 25 TDs and still only one pick

1/19/2009 11:27:16 PM

how many sure TDs did owen fucking spencer drop?

1/19/2009 11:37:13 PM

gotta be at least 5

1/19/2009 11:37:57 PM

1 against WFU
3 against UNC

probably more that I can't remember.

1/20/2009 9:53:38 AM

He dropped 1 sure TD against Wake, and 3 other passes, 1 of which he was so open he should have scored but he would have had to outrun a safety 30 yards.

Against UNC though I only remember him dropping 2 sure touchdowns.

IIRC he dropped a long pass against miami too but it was at least in coverage. Did he drop a possible TD against rutgers too before the one he actually caught?

1/20/2009 11:18:42 AM

I almost want to say it was one of the RB's who dropped an open TD pass at Rutgers.

1/20/2009 11:26:50 AM

He dropped one against Rutgers, but Jamelle Eugene dropped one against UNC. Prolly the mixup.

1/20/2009 11:28:53 AM

eugene and spencer both dropped sure touchdowns @unc

eugene's was diving, so that's understandable, but spencer's was a bad bad drop.

1/20/2009 12:18:15 PM

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20090113/ARTICLES/901141086/1088/sports?Title=Recruiting_notebook__Bulldogs__Stewart_elite_as_a_junior_

Recruiting notebook: Bulldogs' Stewart elite as a junior
Boiling Springs offensive lineman one of 500 invited to Army combine

Boiling Springs offensive lineman Logan Stewart had a memorable New Year's holiday.

The 6-foot-5, 265-pound junior spent Jan. 1-3 in San Antonio at the U.S. Army National Combine.

Stewart was one of 500 high school juniors from across the nation invited to the combine and the only local player to achieve the honor.

"I got a letter back in October. It said that (I was) one of 500 athletes to be invited to a prestigious combine," Stewart said. "It was a great feeling to be selected as one of the best in the nation."

Stewart was evaluated in the bench press, 40-yard dash, short shuttle, vertical jump and one-on-one competition.

"I did real well in the one-on-one's," he said. "Afterwards, (recruiting services) Rivals.com and Scout.com wanted my information and what schools I was talking to."

Stewart has been contacted by a number of schools, including South Carolina, Clemson, Alabama, Buffalo, Duke, Georgia, N.C. State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia, Wake Forest and West Virginia.

He has visited South Carolina, Clemson and N.C. State, and is favoring the Wolfpack and Commodores.

"I like N.C. State and Vanderbilt. (Vanderbilt offensive coordinator Ted) Cain is my contact, and he coached with my former athletic director Jeff Snipes," Stewart said. "Wake Forest and Virginia have come by, and West Virginia sent a film request."

Stewart added that Georgia and Tennessee are making a strong push.

"My plans are to weigh my options when it comes down to time," he said. "Academics have a lot to do with my decision. But, the best fit for me is what I'll base my decision on."

1/23/2009 4:42:25 PM

rolandan finch to BC, not that it really matters

1/23/2009 5:59:43 PM

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"^look at who he played, and you can work on coloring me impressed but you won't be able to"

Yeah I was gonna say this, but really look at who UNC played all season. What a fucking joke.

1/23/2009 6:23:50 PM

PASS EFFICIENCY
1. Russell Wilson-ST

1/24/2009 7:58:46 AM

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""Yates is the best QB at UNC. He was the most efficient passer in the ACC this season.""

Yates was 4th on his own team in QB efficiency.

1/24/2009 9:54:04 AM

I find it intresting that we are 10 days from NSD and a NC State recruiting thread has turned into a discussion of the passing efficiency of a UNC QB.

[Edited on January 24, 2009 at 10:01 AM. Reason : d]

1/24/2009 10:01:07 AM