miscarriages are practically involuntary manslaughter. or maybe even voluntary manslaughter.

1/22/2014 1:54:44 PM

think of how many children have been denied their right to exist.

i've personally denied thousands. we're all mass murderers here.

1/22/2014 1:56:37 PM

You must have a pretty low sperm count

1/22/2014 5:55:25 PM

you didn't understand my point

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentiality_and_Actuality

1/22/2014 6:20:06 PM

I'm upset with all the legal murder, except in cases of rape or incest, and then legal murder is fine.

1/22/2014 6:39:13 PM

Hey I'm pro choice. With rape, women don't have that choice. I guess they throw incest in there as well because we assume incest isn't consensual.

1/22/2014 8:37:38 PM

oh, so you are okay with murdering tiny innocent humans?

1/22/2014 9:50:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhIx5Q7-iCk

seems legit

1/27/2014 8:11:58 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/24/texas-hospital-ordered-to-remove-life-support-from-pregnant-brain-dead-woman/

Absolutely ridiculous that a court needed to intervene here. The woman made her wishes known, the fetus is essentially dead anyway. Jeez, let this family grieve and move on. And I think I just blew the minds of every single TSB poster.

1/27/2014 10:58:11 PM

posted pages ago, so no

1/28/2014 2:25:29 AM

^^ but that fetus was a living child, think of what it could have been! the liberal activist judge might have been killing our next savior!

1/28/2014 8:19:40 AM

are there statistics or research that can give insight to the probability of normal development of a fetus in that case? (honest question, nothing implied)

1/28/2014 12:09:21 PM

are we playing God now?

1/28/2014 12:10:56 PM

you literally are the worst.

are there statistics or research that can give insight to the probability of normal development of a fetus in that case? (honest question, nothing implied)

1/28/2014 12:44:36 PM

Why would it matter?

1/28/2014 12:51:07 PM

this baby's arms and legs were deformed

[Edited on January 28, 2014 at 4:15 PM. Reason : -]

1/28/2014 4:14:34 PM

So its okay to murder disabled people?

1/28/2014 4:25:59 PM

its a person now?

Quote :

"So its okay to murder disabled people?"

well that depends.

[Edited on January 28, 2014 at 4:29 PM. Reason : -]

1/28/2014 4:27:30 PM

That's what I'm told, but apparently some times its okay to murder it

1/28/2014 4:41:38 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/02/02/us-abortion-rate-at-lowest-since-173-according-to-survey/

(Lowest since 1973)

[Edited on February 3, 2014 at 10:05 AM. Reason : ]

2/3/2014 10:05:01 AM

So are they suggesting that as wages have decreased, the demographic that would otherwise abort their child had less unprotected sex, or they chose to keep their kids?

It'd be nice if our mainstream journalists did more than recount the study using biased language...

2/3/2014 10:36:48 PM

I'd say if you control for religion and unemployment, I'm guessing abortions have an inelastic demand.

2/4/2014 2:24:32 AM

Maybe the Pro-Choice camp needs to start an underground guerrilla campaign highlighting to conservatives that abortions reduce minorities, food-stamp/welfare checks, undesirables causing crime problems, and BEST of all a woman who isn't a single mother at 17 can better pull herself up by her bootstraps and be productive in the economy.

This girl i've been seeing has a friend with two kids from two baby daddies. Apparently she is "allergic" to condoms and didn't believe in abortion after getting pregnant either time due to religious reasons. Needless to say I doubt her salary working at Harris Teeter covers the bills....

[Edited on February 4, 2014 at 1:33 PM. Reason : a]

2/4/2014 1:33:17 PM

Quote :

"abortions reduce minorities"

TIL

2/4/2014 5:47:02 PM

The "Abortion is genocide! Stop the genocide!" argument has been made previously in this thread.

2/5/2014 1:22:29 PM

Its because women cant control their libidos.

2/5/2014 3:54:56 PM

perhaps the next evolutionary step for females will be the ability to self-abort- I mean self regulate/police their uterus. 28 days is a decent cycle, but it's full of hiccups which lead to too many preggo women.

2/5/2014 4:07:06 PM

If evolution had its way, every woman would be having the maximum number of children because we have enough food to feed them. Reproductive prudence would be thrown to the wind. Puberty would start earlier and menopause would start later.

If we were abiding by the true will of evolution, we would be devoting our extra resources to developing giant factories that grow babies in test tubes, and flinging them out into every habitable inch of the planet and beyond. That's what evolution wants.

2/5/2014 4:32:54 PM

and if God didn't want us to have abortions, he could just make abortion a thing that doesn't exist. because he is magic.

2/5/2014 4:40:52 PM

or, you know, forbid murder?

2/5/2014 4:53:16 PM

Clearly, unprotected sex won't get you pregnant unless God wants you to have a child

2/5/2014 5:21:33 PM

Quote :

"perhaps the next evolutionary step for females will be the ability to self-abort"

~30% of pregnancies end in miscarriages. Nature kills WAY more fetuses than mankind does.

2/5/2014 5:45:22 PM

spontaneous abortions.

2/5/2014 6:00:09 PM

What if women evolve the ability to abort whenever they want just by willing their uterus to expel the fetus. What will God have to say then?

2/5/2014 6:15:10 PM

^ possibly already been done...

http://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/news/20030605/how-stress-causes-miscarriage

2/5/2014 6:16:17 PM

^involuntary manslaughter

2/5/2014 6:33:41 PM

Quote :

", you know, forbid murder? "

God is magic, he could just make murder not happen.

[Edited on February 5, 2014 at 6:38 PM. Reason : .]

2/5/2014 6:37:49 PM

No, those contradictions are what we're here to live through.
Because they need to know the question to life, the universe, and everything.

I mean, God does. Yes.

2/5/2014 8:15:05 PM

Since God knows everything, he knows the future life the aborted fetus would have lived. Maybe God is pro death penalty like the religious right and he has just already seen that the fetus would eventually do something bad, maybe all aborted fetuses are not innocent they are just being punished by God.

2/5/2014 9:23:25 PM

I'm so sick and tired of the religious hate in TSB.

You're an atheist, fine - stay the hell out of every other life that chooses to live differently than yours. Sure, a lot of people use religion as a reason against abortion, but some, deep down, might just be living by Darwin. You know the guy that says a species will do pretty much anything to protect the longevity of a species.

You can't really do that if you kill the product of your procreation. I can't think of a more basic way to protect a species....by letting offspring live.

Was there ever a time in history (other than today) when abortions were considered an ok thing to do? Cite me one. If not, there's probably a reason. Because on a deeper level, its not fucking ok.

2/5/2014 9:32:09 PM

Seems the Chinese and Greeks were OK with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_abortion#Earliest_evidence

2/5/2014 11:18:30 PM

liberals: the essence of tolerance (unless you are a christian... those devils)

2/5/2014 11:35:19 PM

Yes, you're right. I dragged a Christian kicking and screaming to the Planned Parenthood Abortionplex just last week. Tonight a church group bringing jars of chocolate chip cookie mix door-to-door came by; I laughed at one of the women for having children.

2/5/2014 11:42:52 PM

Quote :

"I'm so sick and tired of the religious hate in TSB. "

I'm not even an atheist, but I'm sick of Christians acting as if their personal Jesus or version of God is always inherently superior to everyone else's. That, and the ridiculous persecution complex you have. Sorry, but the Bible is a really flimsy defense against scientific and rational though. Grow a thicker skin or GTFO.

2/6/2014 12:34:12 AM

Quote :

"You're an atheist, fine - stay the hell out of every other life that chooses to live differently than yours."

my head just exploded

2/6/2014 6:32:36 AM

Watch out guys, its an irony black hole! Stand back!

2/6/2014 7:02:20 AM

Quote :

"You're an atheist, fine - stay the hell out of every other life that chooses to live differently than yours."

This was a pro-choice argument made sarcastically, right? Please tell me it is.

2/6/2014 8:37:48 AM

You're taking that quote out of the context of the rest of the statement. I acknowledged that religious folks use their reasoning as a means to end abortion - and I didn't say I thought that was right.

2/6/2014 9:40:46 AM

No, I'm totally persecuting him. Having your sensibilities questioned on a message board is basically the same as being whipped, forced to carry a heavy cross, being staked to that same cross, and then being speared; rjrumfel is basically Jesus.

2/6/2014 9:41:01 AM

Lol.

I don't even consider myself religious, and you're sarcastically calling me Jesus.

2/6/2014 9:47:50 AM