I wanted to get some weights anyway, which is why I figured I'd try P90X first (that and Eric was able to download the dvd's for me )... Do you need anything besides a resistance band/pull-up bar and a set of dumbbells? (And of course a yoga mat, but I already have that)

6/23/2010 9:17:14 AM

I have it on my computer at home, so if no one else answers (doubtful) then I can take a look and let you know later today.

6/23/2010 9:19:31 AM

You don't need anything else except maybe a towel. You will sweat.

6/23/2010 9:26:17 AM

I think I actually have a pull-up bar in my storage unit, but I can't remember where it would be in there. The kind where you screw it into a door frame. I don't need it since I have an Iron Gym, so maybe you can ask Brandi real nice to go look in there for it

6/23/2010 9:29:17 AM

^2 I was told by someone who has it that you can't even do a lot of the videos without a pull-up bar or resistance band... and I know for a fact I'll need dumbbells at some point - I just don't know if there's anything else

^ ok thank youuu

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 9:34 AM. Reason : .]

6/23/2010 9:34:18 AM

Wow 40 pages of people posting their hideous midsections, pity I wasn't around for this



I kid

Has anyone here used those adjustable dumbells, like the 5-50 pound ones?

Bowflex has them nearly half off, and I'd like to get them if the consensus is that they're quality

6/23/2010 9:41:25 AM

All I know about adjustable dumbbells was I was trying some in the store and it was a bitch to adjust the weights and take them out of the rack. Definitely try them instore if possible

6/23/2010 9:48:45 AM

Quote :

"I love Lara Bars. They're gluten free and super tasty. Lower in protein than most bars, but NOM!"

i buy the lara bars. they're awesome. my favorite are the peanut butter ones.

i did KenpoX yesterday. they move so fast that my arms couldn't keep up

6/23/2010 9:55:52 AM

last night did some leg workouts:

step-ups (left, right, and forward-left, right): 3x15 each direction
lunges into stair climbs: 3x15 lunges
squats with weights: 3x15
finished with stair climbs: 3

did these out at fletcher park last night...it was SO hot and i was drenched by the time we were done but damn if it didn't feel awesome!

6/23/2010 10:08:22 AM

^^^^ I've got these




5-45 lbs.

as long as they are on a flat surface (not carpet) they adjust just fine

I've had them since 2002, no issues

6/23/2010 10:12:21 AM

down to 128 this morning, total of 3 lbs down

i can DEFINITELY see a difference in my stomach & love handles. so encouraging!

my ankles are still hurting a little but i dont want to take any time off insanity, i am a little addicted i think.

i can hardly believe this is the final week of month one. i get a recovery week (there are work outs but not as intense) then it goes into 60min work outs!! i want to get in as much as possible because im going to be on the road for like 3 weeks straight and need to keep my routine up as much as possible. i dont want to lose my progress!!

6/23/2010 10:15:19 AM

I'm up 5 lbs since Sunday

throwing the scale out

6/23/2010 10:17:57 AM

h8r have you been taking measurements?

6/23/2010 10:40:31 AM

I got my body fat assessment done today (and I knew I needed to lower it) but I wanted to do it as a comparison between the calipers and the tape test that the military does (since part of the reason I'm pushing myself so hard is to be able to get in) and they said that I'm way too high of a body fat % to get in right now.

Anyways.

With the caliper test, my body fat % is 14% lower than what the military said it was... and by measuring with the calipers - I'd be able to get in no problem... Stupid tape test

6/23/2010 10:49:26 AM

>--------< LunaK

6/23/2010 10:51:09 AM

I have been taking measurements and eating clean, so i'm not worried

chest is bigger, waist is shrinking, screw the scale

6/23/2010 10:56:07 AM

i just started week 2 of P90X and i just finished doing shoulders and back and then the ab ripper. i can definitely tell a difference that i'm starting to get a bit stronger because i was able to do more push ups and go down farther and i was able to do a lot more of the ab exercises than when i first started. w00t

6/23/2010 11:51:10 AM

I did my 60 min aquatic blast class. She worked us harder today. Made me happy! I love that it is in the outdoor pool! LOVE!

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 12:09 PM. Reason : is]

6/23/2010 12:04:21 PM

^^ I love how fast you can see results from P90X! I have only been doing it 3-4 days per week for the past couple of weeks and I can definitely feel a difference.

And today I did Insanity ... OWWWWIE!

I already feel as though I'm gaining muscle. Holding steady at the same weight, though unfortunately, my ribs are starting to show a bit and I may need to up my calorie count. Or maybe cut my workouts short? I want to add some fat to my chest ... not quite sure how to do this.

6/23/2010 1:28:46 PM

ribs are sexy

6/23/2010 1:33:31 PM

wow lucy. niiiiice. i didn't think it was possible for you to get tinier. and you proved me wrong

what is your waist measurement now? (if you don;t mind me asking.)

6/23/2010 1:38:19 PM

^^^calories

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM. Reason : you need them for your goal ]

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM. Reason : obligatory ]

6/23/2010 1:39:04 PM

lucy you're looking skinny, hope you're getting your calories in!

6/23/2010 1:44:51 PM

^^^ Not sure about my calories, but my skinny jeans fit this morning and I think they're a 26" waist. Not positive.

^^ & ^ Could def eat more calories ... the prob may be that I cut down my drinking from 2 or 3 drinks almost every night to just 2 nights (and only a glass or two of wine on those nights) of drinking in the past 2 weeks. Alcohol adds up!

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .]

6/23/2010 1:46:52 PM

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/tiffany_forni.htm



to



Before:
Age: 22
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 235 lbs
Body Fat: 39%
Pants Size: 22

After:
Age: 23
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 142 lbs
Body Fat: 6%
Pants Size: 3

Tiffany's Training Program:
Day 1:
Legs: 3 x Failure (Under 20 Reps)

Day 2:
Back: 3 x Failure (Under 20 Reps)
Triceps: 3 x Failure (Under 20 Reps)

Day 3:
Shoulders: 3 x Failure (Under 20 Reps)
Biceps: 3 x Failure (Under 20 Reps)

Day 4:
Chest: 3 x Failure (Under 20 Reps)

Quote :

"CONCLUSION: LIFT WEIGHTS"

6/23/2010 1:46:58 PM

Concur with the "conclusion", and she's obviously put in her time at the gym, but I don't buy that she went through that sort of transformation that quickly without surgery. For one thing, it's all but impossible, and for another, she'd have too much loose skin still, I'm fairly sure.

6/23/2010 1:51:00 PM

^^ see, you had me til you posted her wearing plastic heals

6/23/2010 1:51:42 PM

Quote :

"but my skinny jeans fit this morning and I think they're a 26" waist. Not positive."

i'm willing to bet your waist is under 26. mine is 26 and i dont look nearly as skinny as you

i bet you have wider hips that dont allow you to fit into smaller jeans (this is my prediction, i could be wrong )
my hips leave my in sizes 27/28.


^^^also

Quote :

"Body Fat: 6%"

wat? fuh real?

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 1:54 PM. Reason : jfpodstsfd]

6/23/2010 1:52:41 PM

guaranteed, she does not walk around daily at 6%

more than likely, she dieted and trained for a fitness competition / photo shoot

still, impressive






Ladies and gents, don't think for one minute that this is how these pictured models live day to day

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 1:59 PM. Reason : DON'T GET IT TWISTED]

6/23/2010 1:56:55 PM

my trainer estimates that his is between 8 and 10%

BUT

he also said that women are typically higher - around the 20 to 22% range

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 2:00 PM. Reason : fwiw ]

6/23/2010 2:00:38 PM

Quote :

"guaranteed, she does not walk around daily at 6% more than likely, she dieted and trained for a fitness competition / photo shoot still, impressive Ladies and gents, don't think for one minute that this is how these pictured models live day to day "

hahahah. of course not.
i didnt mean to sound like thats what i thought.
i'm just saying she DOES NOT look 6% in either one of the pictures god posted.
at all.

and then i realized she didnt make that post so its not like she was trying to prove she was (does that make anysense?)

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM. Reason : alright i gottta get back to work...happy training ]

6/23/2010 2:03:28 PM

She also ate nothing but protein, enzymes, and vitamins

Quote :

" * Multivitamin * Vitamin C * Lipolyze * MSM * Glucosamine * Omega-3 Meal 1: o Egg whites o Oatmeal Meal 2: o Chicken breast o Veggies Meal 3: o Protein shake Meal 4: o Tuna o Veggies Meal 5: Post Workout o Protein shake Meal 6: o Chicken breast o Veggies Meal 7: o Protein shake Meal 8: o Tuna o Salad"

6/23/2010 2:08:02 PM

Women are always higher than a man of equal fitness level

The main reason being that tits are pure fat

6/23/2010 2:08:20 PM

Quote :

"i'm willing to bet your waist is under 26. mine is 26 and i dont look nearly as skinny as you i bet you have wider hips that dont allow you to fit into smaller jeans (this is my prediction, i could be wrong ) my hips leave my in sizes 27/28."

The joy of larger hips is that they make a small waist look even smaller in comparison.

I should get a tape measure. The scale really tells nothing.

6/23/2010 2:08:26 PM

@ Joie

Yeah, I agree

I was just stating that as to certain misconceptions with competition appearances and day to day living


most, if not all, fitness competitors diet and train for a target date / weight / bf%

then go back to a normal range of eating, dieting, bf%

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 2:12 PM. Reason : s]

6/23/2010 2:11:05 PM

CAN ANYBODY HERE DO THIS STUFF?



Human Flag Pullups
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhVrxKGchO0

Human Flag Pullups
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkHUHdyYI9g

Knuckle Push ups with no legs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIjoq68i1HI

Full Planche Pushups
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyuJ3T0sQ88

Planche Pushups
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ZYvPYip2Q

One Finger Pullup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAkqIG2Zbn4

6/23/2010 2:15:00 PM

I can do human flag. It obliterates your obliques. But I can't do human flag pushups.

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]

6/23/2010 2:19:55 PM

wow

6/23/2010 2:20:13 PM

I can get into the planche and human flag positions

never tried the push ups or pull ups though

new to me

6/23/2010 2:27:56 PM

In reading this thread and other sources I keep hearing two things that seem to contradict each other when it comes to fat loss.

1.) Don't trust a scale. Scales can lie because muscle weighs more than fat. The reason the scale isn't moving is because you are replacing that fat with muscle.

2.) The only way to lose fat is through caloric deficit. Unless you are some super specimen you can not gain muscle while in a caloric deficit. This is the reason for bulk/cut cycles.

Can someone clarify the conflict from these two statements? Is it that a "regular" person during a typical week may be higher in calories on some days and build some muscle and then lower in other days and lose some fat?

6/23/2010 2:33:38 PM

Scales lie for multiple reasons. But the main reason not to trust a scale is that it doesn't truly indicate progress. The important measurements are body fat percentage and actual inches, as these affect your appearance.

Weight impacts your joints, so being overweight, even if you're super muscular, can be tough on your joints.

6/23/2010 2:38:07 PM

^^absolutely not

people who have JUST started working out can experience what are essentially referred to as newbie gains....fat loss/muscle gain

aside from these people (and possibly some using steroids) it is virtually impossible to gain muscle and lose fat (at any reasonable level) at the same time.

6/23/2010 2:49:11 PM

I understand why it's a bad indicator long term or even a bad indicator altogether if you're trying to gain some kind of muscle. I do not get statements such as "I gained 3 pounds this week but lost 2 inches around my belly."

I hope I'm not coming off as negative because that's not it at all. I'm just trying to understand body changes a little better. I have calipers in the mail but have been using scale measurements each morning to track progress (looking at trends, not each day).

On a similar topic, i'm also curious why someone would suggest not to measure progress daily because of natural fluctuations. Wouldn't you rather see +/- X change fluctuating daily instead of have -X measurement week 1 and then +X measurement week 2?

EDIT:
^ Ok that makes sense. I can understand why there would be such a strong stance of "don't use weight at all". On one hand you don't want people new to fitness to get frustrated when their weight doesn't move. On the other hand you don't want people starving themselves to only concentrate on weight.

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .]

6/23/2010 2:58:29 PM

Don't your muscles also hold onto fluids for a bit when you start exercising? I know if I'm out for a substantial period of time and then start working out again I'll see a gain of a few pounds, but it settles down in a week or so. It also seems to make muscles look/feel a bit bigger, which I think leads a lot of women to think they're "bulking up" and run screaming from the weight room.

6/23/2010 3:48:34 PM

It is one of my pet peeves when thunder thighs says that she doesn't want to do weight lifting because she doesn't want bulky legs.

WTF? you've GOT bulky legs!!!!

6/23/2010 3:51:10 PM

Attention: Women

You will not and can not "bulk up" by lifting weights. Not gonna happen without steroids. If you exercise your fucking face off, you might build a well-muscled, athletic physique (like the girls of Crossfit, only a very few of which are overly muscular instead of smokin' hot...and who's to say they aren't juiced, anyway), but even then, you aren't going to look ripped like a dude or anything. It simply is not possible.

Most women would be better served to work out more "like a man".

[Edited on June 23, 2010 at 3:58 PM. Reason : ]

6/23/2010 3:56:08 PM

I get a kick out of people telling me I'm going to "get huge." I just tell them that's my goal.

6/23/2010 3:57:17 PM

They should get a kick out of you.

Like, you should kick them...and tell them that they're retarded.

6/23/2010 3:59:03 PM

Quote :

"^^ I love how fast you can see results from P90X! I have only been doing it 3-4 days per week for the past couple of weeks and I can definitely feel a difference."

i agree! now that i've completed the first week i feel confident that i can continue to rock this.

although i will say i'm leaving for vacation on sunday which is going to be tough since i wont be able to do my p90x but i'm going to bring my running stuff so i can go run/walk on the beach so i don't lose any motivation.

6/23/2010 4:04:54 PM

running on the beach... ouch

6/23/2010 4:31:14 PM